anyone get the new ipecac email? looks like the melvins are going to be rereleasing Houdini probably on DVD I bet! Good news for sure!
Ha, I wanted to post that! Great news though.
The only way to have it is in an Amphetamine gatefold. 8)
you sure they aren't rerecording it or something? Or the live release?
I think it will be a dvd thing. I dont think it will be "just" a rerecording. the melvins never do stuff in a regular way.
thats why I like em.
can anyone post the email please?
some guy was filming the gig in london so i'll be totally stoked if they release the whole thing. and then of course with an extras section including all the videos, picture gallery etc.
and now, for your reading pleasure, a few lines of pure. ipecac. email.
"So we were thinking. We've done hip hop, rock, country, comedy, electronic, pop etc etc etc but what the roster was really lacking was a Russian spy/surf/horror themed instrumental rock band. Guess what, we found them! MESSER CHUPS are the pride of Eastern Europe and we are proud to introduce them to you via their most recent full length "Crazy Price". This is what you would call a fun record. Cramps fans, Davie Allan fans, sci fi fans, come one come all it is party time!!!! Come out on a limb with us, check this one out!
Coming soon the Ennio Morricone compilation to end all, a full length of noise from East West Blast Test (Dave Witte & Chris Dodge). Down the road look for releases from Einar Orn (Sugarcubes), Melvins (a new "Houdini"?), other goodies including....... Peeping Tom! It is looking like mid 2006 for the long awaited Patton project."
peeping tom is great news too
i think they put that in there to be sadistic
Quote from: anaconda on October 20, 2005, 01:18:31 AM
i think they put that in there to be sadistic
If that's the case I WILL kill them.
*Vinny confirmed:
An audio release of "Houdini" live (from Ipecac?): hopefully it includes "Sacrifice" (I know not on Houdini) as performed as the encore to the Houdini Live London gig. That would be sick.
this weekend i had the chance to speak to trevor dunn at a 3 day festival in wels/austria where he played with his trio convulsant and some other acts...
i asked him about the "new houdini"...
he told me that the show in london has NOT been recorded!!!
but they will rerecord the whole HOUDINI album soon with trevor on bass!!!!!
thats better than a live recording. thanks for the news.
haha, who the fuck rerecords their already released albums??? I think its a novel idea!
wow, that is COOL AS SHIT. I'm not sure what to believe though.
hey vin, didn't you say something about BUZZ saying something about it being live?
I would be truley floored to see MELVINS re-record an album in it's entirety. has that been done before?
"dont be such a pessimist"
no you got me wrong I really do think its a novel idea, its just Ive never even heard of someone doing it before thats all!
Quote from: change&suffocation on November 13, 2005, 04:54:11 PM
"dont be such a pessimist"
no you got me wrong I really do think its a novel idea, its just Ive never even heard of someone doing it before thats all!
okay then :)
It has happened before a few times.
Suicidal Tendencies re-recorded their debut album to get control of the recordings again. A few other bands have done this.
Gang of Four have just re-recorded a bunch of tracks (though, not a complete album).
This is CRAZY! I totally could see them doing this! Houdini is one of those allbums were the production seems dated and a rerecording could really do it justice. Pluus to have madman trevor dunn on bass is just ridiculous!
It will be cool if this happens.
Alanis Morrisette......'tis a shame I know this......
leave it to Melvins to yet again reinvent the wheel...i've heard of bands re-recording tunes in the past..(jethro tull, spirit)..but entire albums? Now that's cool....plus - in the event they don't own the publishing from the original record - they simply re-record & release it anew....or something like that!
the fact that they're rerecording houdini and not bullhead makes me hate the melvins and never want to listen to them again
how can they improve houdini by rerecording it? the production seems perfect to me...now bullhead, that could use some fixin up sound-wise, the live version of zodiac on the fucker club or whatever proves that i'm right and the melvins are wrong...oh well
bullhead is history and should remain as such.
the tracks on bullhead have no place being recording in this modern world.
can you imagine that actually being recorded now and released as freshly layed material?
something about it just doesn't seem right.
it's like scolding king arthur when whAt you really wants is a temporary nur
nur nur
bullhead belongs where bullhead resides in the annals of vibration
I don't really like the idea of re recording albums. The albums done, it's been out for years, it's good (both Houdini and Bullhead), so why?? what's the point?? I'd much rather hear some new stuff. The live version of Houdini would be ok though.
Quote from: Vcavallo on November 14, 2005, 02:32:48 AM
bullhead is history and should remain as such.
the tracks on bullhead have no place being recording in this modern world.
can you imagine that actually being recorded now and released as freshly layed material?
something about it just doesn't seem right.
it's like scolding king arthur when whAt you really wants is a temporary nur
nur nur
bullhead belongs where bullhead resides in the annals of vibration
i wouldn't mind them re-recording "Boris" though. there are much better versions live than on that album.
Well, if they do, let's just hope the intro to 'Copache' still packs that powerful punch.
I really do think they should re-record bullhead, the songs on that album are amazing. Me and my friend have actually been talking about this for a long time now. When you hear the songs live they are just so good, but the album lacks a lot of punch.
How else do they completely wash their hands of nirvana?
Quote from: turnacus on November 14, 2005, 06:19:43 PM
How else do they completely wash their hands of nirvana?
good point.
Quote from: dudbean
TURN THE VOLUME UP.
another good point. many production problems can be circumvented this way..
yeah, bullhead's fine except for the volume. they must have mastered it in the fucking public library or something
I had a weird Melvins dream the other night. I was watching them re-record Houdini at an old farm in an empty silo and it sounded awesome. They filmed it too for a bonus DVD to include with the CD. :lol:
personally, methinks they should re-record "ozma".
that one could most certainly benefit from an update.
Quote from: mopafeena on November 14, 2005, 02:53:16 AM
I don't really like the idea of re recording albums. The albums done, it's been out for years, it's good (both Houdini and Bullhead), so why?? what's the point?? I'd much rather hear some new stuff. The live version of Houdini would be ok though.
I agree......but it will be interesting to see what they do. A proper new Melvins Lp by just the Melvins is long overdue!
Quote from: Ministry Fiend on November 17, 2005, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: mopafeena on November 14, 2005, 02:53:16 AM
I don't really like the idea of re recording albums. The albums done, it's been out for years, it's good (both Houdini and Bullhead), so why?? what's the point?? I'd much rather hear some new stuff. The live version of Houdini would be ok though.
I agree......but it will be interesting to see what they do. A proper new Melvins Lp by just the Melvins is long overdue!
"new"
like I said before, I think this will be done in a tasteful fashion.
maybe some "remixed" artwork, and improved sound...CANT WAIT!
Quote from: Ministry Fiend on November 17, 2005, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: mopafeena on November 14, 2005, 02:53:16 AM
I don't really like the idea of re recording albums. The albums done, it's been out for years, it's good (both Houdini and Bullhead), so why?? what's the point?? I'd much rather hear some new stuff. The live version of Houdini would be ok though.
I agree......but it will be interesting to see what they do. A proper new Melvins Lp by just the Melvins is long overdue!
yeah me too.
I think it is ok to rerecord it, but at the same time they should do something new. mmmh. maybe they could do it all: rerecords houdini, live-houdini, houdini london dvd (ok this is rather impossible) and a new record. as a 4 lp set named "we love themelvins.net".
This displeases me. I am perfectly happy with Houdini in every way. Re-recording it seems like a waste of time. I think i'm going to have to confront Buzz about this and when the hospital says it's ok for me to go home, I'll be sure to report what he says.
i do not think that this will be a waste... because i don't think that they would rerecord something without making it completely new.
Quote from: Ministry Fiend on November 17, 2005, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: mopafeena on November 14, 2005, 02:53:16 AM
I don't really like the idea of re recording albums. The albums done, it's been out for years, it's good (both Houdini and Bullhead), so why?? what's the point?? I'd much rather hear some new stuff. The live version of Houdini would be ok though.
I agree......but it will be interesting to see what they do. A proper new Melvins Lp by just the Melvins is long overdue!
What is this "proper new melvins lp"?
Are NBWYCS, Sieg Howdy, Pigs Of The Roman Empire not proper melvins lp?
I think it's quite funny that Melvins fans get 3 albums in 2 years and bitch. While other fans have to wait up to 5 years before they hear
anything by their favorite band.
QuoteI think it's quite funny that Melvins fans get 3 albums in 2 years and bitch. While other fans have to wait up to 5 years before they hear anything by their favorite band.
Yeah, glad I'm not a Tool fan. That would be boring to wait five years and then hear the same shit again.
I just got informed that I got my new job and there is no drug test so I'm smoking for the first time in three weeks. What does this have to do with Houdini? Well, get really baked and start the album with Spread Eagle Beagle. Listen as it suddenly morphs into Hooch with the album on repeat. It makes a way better opener than closer and you you can let it play again to bookend the album. While a new Houdini could be really good I doubt it with will have the awesome sound of the Spread Eagle Beagle/Hooch morph. :toke:
Quote from: Agent48 on November 21, 2005, 02:07:35 PM
i do not think that this will be a waste... because i don't think that they would rerecord something without making it completely new.
i'm looking forward to this "new houdini", not that there is anything wrong with the old one, but you got a good point agent. knowing them they will completly change everything, therefore making it a "new" album.
revolve on electro retard comes to mind. same song only completly different.
I don't know, seems kind of odd to me. I'd prefer a whole new album, but I guess if these guys are going to re-record an old album, it will likely be played in a new way. I'm not super excited to hear this, but you can bet I'll buy it the first day it comes out anyway.
Now, what would be REALLY cool is if they re-recorded someone else's entire album. Melvins play "Wish You Were Here" or "Rubber Soul" or "Kill Em All" or "Daydream Nation" or even "Thriller". THAT would be cool. 8) Just my opinion.
Quote from: Pelican on November 22, 2005, 09:08:16 PM
Now, what would be REALLY cool is if they re-recorded someone else's entire album. Melvins play "Wish You Were Here" or "Rubber Soul" or "Kill Em All" or "Daydream Nation" or even "Thriller". THAT would be cool. 8) Just my opinion.
I think that sort of stuff should be left to hippy jam bands....
Quote from: rimb_38 on November 22, 2005, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: Pelican on November 22, 2005, 09:08:16 PM
Now, what would be REALLY cool is if they re-recorded someone else's entire album. Melvins play "Wish You Were Here" or "Rubber Soul" or "Kill Em All" or "Daydream Nation" or even "Thriller". THAT would be cool.
I don't know if I would pay for it, but I'd like to hear them do an acoustic version. (I think I mentioned this already, but I forgot.)
Quote from: Dudbean on November 22, 2005, 11:27:40 PM
That's truly a lame idea.
I read Patton wants to do something acoustic as well with Fantomas some time ago.
http://beta.cv.org/2005/09/02/patton-has-ideas-for-upcoming-fantomas-albums/
Quote from: rimb_38 on November 22, 2005, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: Pelican on November 22, 2005, 09:08:16 PM
Now, what would be REALLY cool is if they re-recorded someone else's entire album. Melvins play "Wish You Were Here" or "Rubber Soul" or "Kill Em All" or "Daydream Nation" or even "Thriller". THAT would be cool.
nope... Im in fact wearing a hatefucked shirt right now.
and listening to Johnny Cash :D
ha - yeah - that would be neat if they covered an entire album of another band - lately I've been thinking they should consider King Crimson "Red"...man, would that be a trip....
Quote from: meanclown on November 23, 2005, 09:30:26 AM
ha - yeah - that would be neat if they covered an entire album of another band - lately I've been thinking they should consider King Crimson "Red"...man, would that be a trip....
That's a better choice than the other albums listed. I agree with the hippie jam band comment, though. An album of covers by a bunch of different bands could be great, although even that is a cheesy idea.
Well, it's hard to out-cheese recording and performing with Lief Garrett.
everyone complaining about the "new houdini" is going to buy it the day it comes out just like all the jello haters bought the last two jellvins albums
Quote from: Dudbean on November 22, 2005, 11:27:40 PM
That's truly a lame idea.
I don't hear your ideas, Mr. Negetive. :cry:
Quote from: cellphone on November 23, 2005, 09:24:41 PM
everyone complaining about the "new houdini" is going to buy it the day it comes out just like all the jello haters bought the last two jellvins albums
I didn't buy the last Jellvins album. I'll support the Melvins by buying a shirt next time they come to town but I'm not wasting my money on that Jello shit.
Bitch bitch bitch. :-({|=
smile! smile! smile!
pull your heads out of your asses and smile :)
hmmm, that could be a good country western song.
"I didn't buy the last Jellvins album. I'll support the Melvins by buying a shirt next time they come to town but I'm not wasting my money on that Jello shit."
the new one is good, youll probably like it more than Never Breathe
acoustic houdini? umm, no. Can't see how that would work in a million years. I think theres a better chance of Buzz becoming a Catholic priest...
I think funny is all it is
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May 16th can't get here soon enough =P~
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=P~
no shit! :shock:
lovely, i say! :D :D :D :D :D
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I'm excited!
Signed,
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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Nice. These guys are always working. Does any band work any harder than the MELVINS?? 20 years plus hell yeah!! :x
Quote from: Smellis on February 11, 2006, 09:03:23 PM
Nice. These guys are always working. Does any band work any harder than the MELVINS??
Harder than James Brown??? :o
Quote from: Anonymous on February 11, 2006, 07:56:45 PM
I'm excited!
Signed,
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I'm excited too, but maybe not as much as Big Kev is now.
right in time for my birthday.
who's getting it for me?
RIP big kev.. :(
never 4get the time i watched you on GMA!
sad shit but yeah..
Quote from: skizmbts on February 12, 2006, 09:18:50 PM
RIP big kev.. :(
never 4get the time i watched you on GMA!
sad shit but yeah..
WTF is that avatar??!?! Ron Jeremy dressed as Mario ?
:shock:
:D
I wonder if they are not refering to it as Houdini because of ties to Atlantic... :-k
It's almost seems like a subhead to POTRE; i.e.
Pigs of the Roman Empire: A History of Gluttony and Lust
Of course I will buy it regardless , but is this new release their October ATP show or was this recorded after? And was it recorded live in the studio or live on stage?
This is not the ATP show, that will be released at some point by them in their Dont Look Back series(?)
This is a live recording from on stage in Los Angeles a few weeks later
that is not going to arrive to Brazil.
who could buy the original album and send me?
i can send money !!! tha shit !!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Quote from: Beto Brasil on February 13, 2006, 03:11:16 PM
that is not going to arrive to Brazil.
who could buy the original album and send me?
i can send money !!! tha shit !!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Sure. We'll have contact on MSN about this, Ok?
Melvins fans; helping each other out :D
Quote from: klump on February 13, 2006, 04:02:26 PM
Melvins fans; helping each other out :D
Hehe. Well, fact is I've promised Beto a few times to order some more dvd's but I'm such a lousy fuck for not doing that. This way I can combine the dvd's and the new Houdini.
Quote from: anaconda on February 13, 2006, 12:34:11 PM
This is not the ATP show, that will be released at some point by them in their Dont Look Back series(?)
This is a live recording from on stage in Los Angeles a few weeks later
I can't find any reviews of this in the show review section?
I don't believe there are any yet, I only know about the show in LA being recorded
for it because of the Dale Interview with Billboard.
Quote from: anaconda on February 13, 2006, 06:55:18 PM
I don't believe there are any yet, I only know about the show in LA being recorded
for it because of the Dale Interview with Billboard.
Looks like this one slipped under the radar. Must have been a pretty small show then?
Quote from: rimb_38 on February 13, 2006, 07:12:14 PM
Quote from: anaconda on February 13, 2006, 06:55:18 PM
I don't believe there are any yet, I only know about the show in LA being recorded
for it because of the Dale Interview with Billboard.
Looks like this one slipped under the radar.
I have a feeling it was pulled off in the same low key manner as COD was
Schnab is excited too, wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!! Come May 16th, come!!!! :lol: :lol: :D
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Quote from: anaconda on February 13, 2006, 08:04:13 PM
I have a feeling it was pulled off in the same low key manner as COD was
didnt they tour COD?
It's good to have a date to look forward to.
Quote from: klump on February 14, 2006, 01:55:34 AM
Quote from: anaconda on February 13, 2006, 08:04:13 PM
I have a feeling it was pulled off in the same low key manner as COD was
didnt they tour COD?
i dont think they did
I thought the 2X4 tour WAS the COD tour, more or less.
released after the 2X4 tour was complete, obviously. but basically COD was one of the 2X4 live shows (partially). yes?
I was under the impression that the COD shows were billed as Noiseland Arcade,
and there were only 2 shows performed and recorded at Club Mangler in Cupertino,
California which became the basis of the COD release.
Quote from: anaconda on February 14, 2006, 12:51:45 PM
I was under the impression that the COD shows were billed as Noiseland Arcade,
and there were only 2 shows performed and recorded at Club Mangler in Cupertino,
California which became the basis of the COD release.
I see. so explain to me what the 2X4 tour was all about. I thought it was 2 sets by 4 guys. those 4 guys being buzz, dale, kev & DSS. the first set being a noise set, a la' COD, and the second set being a "music" set of MELVINS material. when did this happen in relation to COD's release?
Quote from: anaconda on February 14, 2006, 12:51:45 PM
I was under the impression that the COD shows were billed as Noiseland Arcade,
and there were only 2 shows performed and recorded at Club Mangler in Cupertino,
California which became the basis of the COD release.
yeah the one they recorded.
thats maybe what they did this time to.
to put the pressure off ?
and to keep every joker in town from showing up to shout their name, so it would appear on the recording. haha
Here's an example of a typical 2x4 tour setlist (taken from Mike Ziegler's old site)
FIRST SET: intro / Tequila / Okie From Muskogee / Up The Dumper /
Skin Horse (second half) / Tipping The Lion / Berthas / Blockbuster /
Promise Me / Lone Rose Holding Now / Now I'm Here / Smells Like Teen
Spirit
SECOND SET: noise / Wispy / We Reach / Revolve / Night Goat
(intro) / Cherub / The Bit (intro) / Manky / It's Shoved / Adolescent
Wet Dream / With Yo Heart, Not Yo Hands / Leech / Lovely Butterfly /
Zodiac / Let It All Be / Let God Be Your Gardener (intro) / With
Teeth / amazon / AMAZON / Shevil
They sure outdid themselves with that album cover
Quote from: turnacus on February 15, 2006, 03:48:07 PM
They sure outdid themselves with that album cover
Soemhow I assume it's just a temporary picture.
QuoteSoemhow I assume it's just a temporary picture.
No way, I'll bet its the real deal. Have you seen the liner notes for the trilogy? Mackie's art sometimes borders on a bit too minimal and definitely a little bland for my tastes. The Bootlicker has stupid vector lightning bolts that probably took about five minutes to create. The HAT artwork is cool eventhough its all borrowed from retro clipart.
I don't think of her as much of an artist per say and it wouldn't surprise me if the Houdini artwork is totally gay.
Quote from: the bloat on February 15, 2006, 06:23:14 PM
QuoteSoemhow I assume it's just a temporary picture.
No way, I'll bet its the real deal. Have you seen the liner notes for the trilogy? Mackie's art sometimes borders on a bit too minimal and definitely a little bland for my tastes. The Bootlicker has stupid vector lightning bolts that probably took about five minutes to create. The HAT artwork is cool eventhough its all borrowed from retro clipart.
I don't think of her as much of an artist per say and it wouldn't surprise me if the Houdini artwork is totally gay.
what's wrong with minimal? it's better than being too flashy. less is more sometimes.
do you think their would be any chance of some hazy liner notes being added for the album. I really enjoyed previous ones.i hope they keep doing them.
I think what you see on ipecac.com is what you get for the cover art. doesn't surprise me at all. look at the 26 songs cover, what is it? a tree?
I like it.
Everytime I think that Mackie's art is a tad too simplistic, the covers of 10 Songs, GPT, Bullhead and Eggnog run thru my head. Plus, how can one deny the genius of COD??? A steer, a mountain valley, and............ORANGES.
She's great and all, much respect to her on her paintings,
but as mentioned before, like any good designer she has
her hands on a good retro clip art supplier. Namely, CSA Designs:
http://images.google.ca/images?q=CSA+Plastock&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en
Interesting. :-k
I always thought that Buzz collected those sorts of dolls etc. and Mackie had just photographed them?
That's quite possible too. Given the picture that was posted somewhere on here a while back showing buzz in a room full of such dolls and things.
didnt mackie do the lateralus artwork? i thought that was pretty impressive. she should do something
tripped like that for melvins
She did the basic design and layout of the package , but the cover art was painted
by Alex Grey, based on a concept that was art directed by Adam.
http://www.alexgrey.com/
http://alexgrey.net/pnt-nav.html
http://www.apex.net.au/~bill/tool.html
new Tool album in early May! yeah I know its a little off topic...
Quote from: anaconda on February 17, 2006, 10:01:08 AM
She did the basic design and layout of the package , but the cover art was painted
by Alex Grey, based on a concept that was art directed by Adam.
http://www.alexgrey.com/
http://alexgrey.net/pnt-nav.html
http://www.apex.net.au/~bill/tool.html
#-o
Quote from: anaconda on February 16, 2006, 09:13:55 PM
She's great and all, much respect to her on her paintings,
but as mentioned before, like any good designer she has
her hands on a good retro clip art supplier. Namely, CSA
(http://www.koppmedien.de/productshot/10853.jpg)
I don't doubt that, but the CSA masks and plastic toy collections
were out a couple years before HAT. I believe she was inspired by them,
to do her own versions with buzz's toy collection, masks etc.
but yes, the three jackasses is a great Mackie illustration, that's a fact!
Quote from: anaconda on February 18, 2006, 12:46:55 PM
(http://www.koppmedien.de/productshot/10853.jpg)
I don't doubt that, but the CSA masks and plastic toy collections
were out a couple years before HAT. I believe she was inspired by them,
to do her own versions with buzz's toy collection, masks etc.
but yes, the three jackasses is a great Mackie illustration, that's a fact!
yeah thats possible, I just wanted to point out that it was willis that took those great pictures.
he`s a great painter and photograph!
kevin willis is a fucking cunt
and the melvins fuck pigs
It looks like the cover will be on the front of the cd. I was really starting to enjoy the wide shots they used too. The trilogy album covers wouldn't look as cool if they shrunk the pictures.
I bet they'll probably release a vinyl of Houdini Live '05 a few months after the disc comes out as well.
Quote from: blacksanta on February 16, 2006, 07:50:09 PM
Everytime I think that Mackie's art is a tad too simplistic, the covers of 10 Songs, GPT, Bullhead and Eggnog run thru my head. Plus, how can one deny the genius of COD??? A steer, a mountain valley, and............ORANGES.
I really like the Mackie stuff. This cover is crap though. Looks like about two minutes was spent on it.
Quote from: Andy on February 21, 2006, 05:38:46 AM
Quote from: blacksanta on February 16, 2006, 07:50:09 PM
Everytime I think that Mackie's art is a tad too simplistic, the covers of 10 Songs, GPT, Bullhead and Eggnog run thru my head. Plus, how can one deny the genius of COD??? A steer, a mountain valley, and............ORANGES.
I really like the Mackie stuff. This cover is crap though. Looks like about two minutes was spent on it.
we havent seen the whole deal yet.
I think it will be good, as always :)
why is the first thought of so many people negative?
Id understand if it was the latest justin timberlake or shrimp casket record,
but this is the melvins!!!
have they ever let you down? :lol:
Quote from: klump on February 21, 2006, 09:58:24 PM
Quote from: seas of luck on February 20, 2006, 01:06:14 AM
It looks like the cover will be on the front of the cd. I was really starting to enjoy the wide shots they used too. The trilogy album covers wouldn't look as cool if they shrunk the pictures.
The Maggot (Ipecac, 1999) *
The Bootlicker (Ipecac, 1999) *
The Crybaby (Ipecac, 2000) ****
Buzz: We got the idea to do three albums. It
Quote from: klump on February 22, 2006, 08:37:52 AM
mangled demos = old record
there, not that difficult.
How about the reissue of GPT?
Quote from: norecess on February 22, 2006, 08:51:55 AM
Quote from: klump on February 22, 2006, 08:37:52 AM
mangled demos = old record
there, not that difficult.
How about the reissue of GPT?
ouch...you got me there.
but you can see in "the book" its actually put in the end...but...26 songs....aw fuck...my theory burst like a "virgins twat."
ew, that was a disgusting anecdote.
Im gonna go lay down.
i liked that anectoxidote 8)
Nevermind, Klump (http://themelvins.net/forum/Smileys/default/eusa_dance.gif)
may is too fucking far away. I would have rather they announced it in early April so the anticipation wasn't so bad.
sometimes ignorance is bliss.
My copy of H.A.T. has the cover on the booklet and the regular insert for the back cover.
When I went to buy it though I had a choice of cover configurations if you know what I mean.
Quote from: rimb_38 on February 22, 2006, 05:59:23 PM
My copy of H.A.T. has the cover on the booklet and the regular insert for the back cover.
Yeah, well I originally walked away with two back covers. When I went back the guy had no idea what was going on but he let me fix it up. :)
Quote from: rimb_38 on February 22, 2006, 07:27:06 PM
Yeah, well I originally walked away with two back covers.
Quote from: mopafeena on February 22, 2006, 09:03:44 PM
Quote from: rimb_38 on February 22, 2006, 07:27:06 PM
Yeah, well I originally walked away with two back covers. When I went back the guy had no idea what was going on but he let me fix it up. :)
Are you australian Rimb?
i only ask because i am and i actually saw the two different cover configs when i bought my copy. I got the one with the the cover on the back, tracklist on the front.
Yeah. In Melbourne. Bought my copy in Hobart though.
Maybe this was a limited stuff up? Haven't bothered to look at any recent copies in store.
no way mates, Shock Records just didnt understand the Melvins concept of switching the
cover art front to back to front, so the mis-processed the production.
btw, is every second new person here an australian? this is a great sign for our little site as we
get more and more global, hell even international is the reach of the melvins dominion.
I think i made a thread when i first started posting asking who was australian.
there was quite a few from memory.
Quote from: anaconda on February 22, 2006, 09:39:53 PM
btw, is every second new person here an australian? this is a great sign for our little site as we
get more and more global, hell even international is the reach of the melvins dominion.
I find this very interesting since Australia is literally on the complete other side of the earth from where I'm at. and I don't recall that I have ever conversed with an Australian person in my life previous to signing up here.
see how worldly you all are making me?
so..........what is it,like June 14th, 2007 in Australia right now? if so how is the live Houdini? seeing as it has been released there for about 13 months now.
The cover's kind of simple, but who cares? It's just an album cover. I like the font a lot though.
a storm petrel walks on water
Quote from: glen on February 23, 2006, 07:15:01 AM
Quote from: anaconda on February 22, 2006, 09:39:53 PM
btw, is every second new person here an australian? this is a great sign for our little site as we
get more and more global, hell even international is the reach of the melvins dominion.
I find this very interesting since Australia is literally on the complete other side of the earth from where I'm at.
haha :lol:
so whens this god damn fucking tour happning..
i cant wait to hear this its gonna be fuckin awesome..
I really hope that Sacrifice or some otehr tunes off Lysol end up at the end of this album. Imagine all of Lysol done as a hidden track!?!!
*droolz*
Quote from: little furious bunny on March 04, 2006, 03:15:24 PM
I really hope that Sacrifice or some otehr tunes off Lysol end up at the end of this album. Imagine all of Lysol done as a hidden track!?!!
Now why would they do a silly thing like that. :P Besides, if they did that then they'd have to give credit to Joe and it would take away from the money they make off this album.
So this was a super-secret show in LA? Anyone know what the specific setlist was? I didn't see it in the show reviews, and we all know what happens when I post there.
I really want to see a Melvins tour to South America, one date in Chile would be like a freaking dream come true.
I'm excited too, Houdini is one of my favorite Melvins album.
I saw this on allmusic.com
"Despite quite a few so called 'grunge' albums rocketing to the top of the charts in the early '90s; there were several releases that somehow managed to slip through the cracks. Case in point, the Melvins' 1993 classic, Houdini. Despite the album being one of their most succinct from a songwriting/playing point of view — and not to mention parts being produced by old pal Kurt Cobain — the fine Houdini never managed to receive the attention it deserved at the time of its release. But subsequently, an 'appreciation cult' has appeared to form around the release, resulting in Buzz and Dale deciding to re-air the album in its entirety in 2005. The end result, 'Houdini Live 2005: A Live History of Gluttony and Lust' (which sees Trevor Dunn momentarily occupy the ever-rotating Melvins bass spot) is every bit as deliciously heavy as its original — maybe even more so in this live setting. As far as heavy, dense riffing goes, few albums scaled the same heights as Houdini, and the live version doesn't disappoint, as evidenced by a cover of Kiss' "Going Blind," as well as "Hooch" and "Set Me Straight," the latter of which is combined together with a fierce punk rocker, "DCH." Despite it not being a 'career spanner,' the Melvins just may have issued their definitive live album with 'Houdini Live 2005: A Live History of Gluttony and Lust.'"
by Greg Prato
Quote from: klump on March 13, 2006, 04:46:02 PM
I saw this on allmusic.com
Are you an AMG junkie too? ;)
Quote from: klump on March 13, 2006, 04:46:02 PM
...as well as "Hooch" and "Set Me Straight," the latter of which is combined together with a fierce punk rocker, "DCH."...
Anyone know what song DCH is?
Dale Crover's Hips
You can pre-order it now at CD Universe for $11.89 + shipping.
When and where does the gatefold double vinyl come out? [-o<
Live album or not, 10+ years old material or not, this will be the best album of 2006.
check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Melvins-HOUDINI-LIVE-2005_W0QQitemZ4855174363QQcategoryZ307QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
is this for real? so an advance copy is on the streets? or will this get shipped on May 16th?
its the real deal, cause allmusic.com has allready reviewed it...
BUT, I would rather buy it when it comes out so I can support the Melvins!
and this is not to suck up, I just mean this is the only right thing to do.
i'll probably download it and buy cd and vinyl copies.
Does anybody have a tracklist yet? Wait.... #-o
Quote from: norecess on March 13, 2006, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: klump on March 13, 2006, 04:46:02 PM
I saw this on allmusic.com
Are you an AMG junkie too? ;)
:D I am.
I did not know that Prato did a review. I have to check that out. He also needs to do biographies on Dale and Buzz.
enough already!. i can't stand it anymore. it's not even April 16th yet!!! let alone May 16th!!!
Reviewed by Mark Prindle (http://www.markprindle.com/melvinsa.htm#houdinilive).
Kind of sick of waiting for this, too.
Prindles reviews and interviews can be enjoyable (mostly his interviews) but his reviews have a kind of crybaby "hue" to it.
http://markprindle.com/melvinsa.htm#houdinilive
Mark Prindle has reviewed the album. I asked him where he got it and he said he found it used in a record store, must have been a promo copy somebody sold.
i emailed him a link to the melvins goldmine and he agreed to put it in the melvins section. when he replied and i was sure we were in communication i invited him to the message board. let's hope he comes. that'd be fun. maybe those "dickheads" in the past who've run their mouth with obscenities and nonsense have been him all along??
he talks in songs.
but i hoped he will not HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME.
very cheesy.
a really bad review, i think it takes to be a fan to be able to review their albums well or not.
he put in his input, and i think it's biased.
Of course it's biased it's a review.
he talked shit about Spread Eagle Beagle.
he actually talked shit about Spread Eagle Beagle.
http://www.markprindle.com/melvinsa.htm#houdinilive
what's more tedious, listening to spread eagle beagle or reading that review
he is a melvins fan. he loves the melvins. read the rest of the melvins section. this review wasn't great, but alot of them are fantastic.
"dale crover, boyoo he hits hard, touch his peen! SMACKO POLO!"
^obviously the work of a genius
Quote from: brian on April 07, 2006, 07:03:10 PM
what's more tedious, listening to spread eagle beagle or reading that review
:lol:
His 'cleverness' schtick wears a bit thin. The way he constantly reviews things like this reminds me of the simpsons episode where sideshowbob keeps hitting himself in the face with the rake..over, and over, and over..
Quote from: glen on April 07, 2006, 04:23:49 PM
he talked shit about Spread Eagle Beagle.
he actually talked shit about Spread Eagle Beagle.
It's justifiable in my opinion. A complete throwaway.
He didn't really insult it. That's just Prindle's style. Prindle is an awesome man.
Didn't realize there was another thread on this. Mods, delete or merge!!!
Prindle Gold in re: the new Helmet record:
Helmet"? More like "Cap"! Heh heh, yeah that's good stuff.
"Cap." Because their music is so light, you no longer need a helmet. A cap will do. Heh heh. Yeah, that's solid. I did myself a solid with that.
:D :D :D
your wish is my command, santa! now i want a racecar
Quote from: Joe Deutrom on April 07, 2006, 08:23:37 PM
Quote from: glen on April 07, 2006, 04:23:49 PM
he talked shit about Spread Eagle Beagle.
he actually talked shit about Spread Eagle Beagle.
It's justifiable in my opinion. A complete throwaway.
hog? are you hearing this?
sorry, i don't care how good of a reviewer he is.
he's not funny, at all.
i don't get that humor, it's really cheesy.
and i'm sure we will love the houdini.
i hate all this negative karma with new melvins stuff.
just know it's gonna rock, it will.
he did give an 8 out of 10, didn't he?
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 08, 2006, 04:51:36 PM
he did give an 8 out of 10, didn't he?
Yes he did. He said "She Loves You" (she being me and you being this record"
Quote, i think it takes to be a fan to be able to review their albums well or not.
Wouldn't that also make a biased review?
QuoteIt's justifiable in my opinion. A complete throwaway.
I have to agree. It's interesting the first time, amusing the second, and fucking boring the third time. It IS great to choose it on one of those internet jukeboxes and watch it clear the bar tho.' Every turd has a silver lining.
Quote from: brian on April 07, 2006, 07:03:10 PM
what's more tedious, listening to spread eagle beagle or reading that review
well said.
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 08, 2006, 04:51:36 PM
he did give an 8 out of 10, didn't he?
thought you knew markle personally vin?
just a thought that
flew into my head.
Quote from: blacksanta on April 08, 2006, 05:37:03 PM
Quote, i think it takes to be a fan to be able to review their albums well or not.
Wouldn't that also make a biased review?
QuoteIt's justifiable in my opinion. A complete throwaway.
I have to agree. It's interesting the first time, amusing the second, and fucking boring the third time. It IS great to choose it on one of those internet jukeboxes and watch it clear the bar tho.' Every turd has a silver lining.
biased in a good way.
if our stupid vice president has to have all channels turned on fox news to see how "well" he's doing at hotels, then we can have an obscure look on the melvins work.
We sure seem to be getting a lot of really early reviews this time around I've noticed.
the only review i give a fuck about . mine
Quote from: dontyoutellme on April 08, 2006, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 08, 2006, 04:51:36 PM
he did give an 8 out of 10, didn't he?
thought you knew markle personally vin?
just a thought that flew into my head.
not me. Ian sent him a "moaning mainline" tape featuring ben yakas and himself back when prindle did the bribery reviews.
ian's coming up to vermont this month. i'm excited
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 08, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
Quote from: dontyoutellme on April 08, 2006, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 08, 2006, 04:51:36 PM
he did give an 8 out of 10, didn't he?
thought you knew markle personally vin?
just a thought that flew into my head.
not me. Ian sent him a "moaning mainline" tape featuring ben yakas and himself back when prindle did the bribery reviews.
ian's coming up to vermont this month. i'm excited
yeah i was actually gonna go up with him. i still might. watch it!
hahaha bribery reviews......
oh i was just in new paltz and there was: a tick infestation, mad hippies, bad pancakes and a four dollar viewing of the benchwarmers.
this is why i need to go with ian. its weird communicating through the melvins bbs but
im sick of seeing crack being sold. and worrying about getting robbed constant in mount vernon. i need a break!!!!
i read the first two paragraphs then the hilarious putting song titles everywhere did my fucking head in. i'll wait til somebody normal does a review of it without feeling the need to be Officer Jokes-alot
Quote from: dontyoutellme on April 09, 2006, 12:13:44 AM
its weird communicating through the melvins bbs
agreed. indeed? indeeeeeeeed. sorry
"recorded in Vernon (South L.A.) in a warehouse.......
24 tracks
100% live.....no overdubs
invite-only show
ran through the set twice.....the best take was chosen
mixed tapes later in L.A."
Prindle rules! He's the only person who's actually inspired me to buy the records he's reviewing. And they were mint. Spot on.
Although it looks like he likes Sigur Ros this week. Hmm.
so its not actually the london show. looking forward to the sound quality on this.
and quit picking on spread eagle beagle.
Quote from: brian on April 09, 2006, 03:32:41 PM
"recorded in Vernon (South L.A.) in a warehouse.......
24 tracks
100% live.....no overdubs
invite-only show
ran through the set twice.....the best take was chosen
mixed tapes later in L.A."
Interesting, but who are you quoting?
Quote from: Andy on April 09, 2006, 04:17:53 PM
Prindle rules! He's the only person who's actually inspired me to buy the records he's reviewing. And they were mint. Spot on.
Sometimes yes, but too often his reviews are not very thoroughful so I don't take all his review too seriously. His interviews are often enjoyable though, I like the interview he did with George 'Corpsegrinder' Fischer of Cannibal Corpse.
i guess i need to check out this guy's other interviews, since many of you like him.
just a bad way to start off for someone like me.
someone post a funny one.
Quote from: rimb_38 on April 09, 2006, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: brian on April 09, 2006, 03:32:41 PM
"recorded in Vernon (South L.A.) in a warehouse.......
24 tracks
100% live.....no overdubs
invite-only show
ran through the set twice.....the best take was chosen
mixed tapes later in L.A."
Interesting, but who are you quoting?
Your obviously not a "NERD" He's quoting Dan Raymond, Who likes to wear little boys underwear. Skid marks and all! :lol:
Quote from: norecess on April 10, 2006, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 09, 2006, 04:17:53 PM
Prindle rules! He's the only person who's actually inspired me to buy the records he's reviewing. And they were mint. Spot on.
Sometimes yes, but too often his reviews are not very thoroughful so I don't take all his review too seriously. His interviews are often enjoyable though, I like the interview he did with George 'Corpsegrinder' Fischer of Cannibal Corpse.
Ditto- I really enjoy most of his reviews. He seems to do his homework (bands history, old albums, etc..) and seems to genuinely enjoy the music he reviews. Plus, he rarely asks horrible questions like 'So, what are your influences?'.
Quote from: CaptainPungent on April 10, 2006, 08:33:54 AM
i guess i need to check out this guy's other interviews, since many of you like him.
just a bad way to start off for someone like me.
someone post a funny one.
Read the Scratch Acid ones he does from the perspective of a burglar stealing stuff from Mark Prindle's house. Comedy gold!
The GWAR interview is the best.
Prindle's the best. Can't hate the Prind.
Quote from: brian on April 09, 2006, 03:32:41 PM
"recorded in Vernon (South L.A.) in a warehouse.......
24 tracks
100% live.....no overdubs
invite-only show
ran through the set twice.....the best take was chosen
mixed tapes later in L.A."
mmmm the "24 tracks" part is quite different from what I read in amazon a while ago:
Track Listings
1. Pearl Bomb
2. Hooch
3. Night Goat
4. Lizzy
5. Going Blind
6. Cop-Ache
7. Set Me Straight/DCH
8. Sky Pup
9. Teet
10. Joan Of Arc
11. Honey Bucket
12. Hag Me
13. Spread Eagle Beagle
I hope amazon is wrong about it.
I think they were referring to the 24 tracks used during the recording process. a 24 track mixing board.
Has anyone seen this?
Night Goat - Melvins - From Album: A Live History of Gluttony and Lust
http://www.beanrocket.com/?feedseed=241
Thanks noctrun - sounds amazing!
:D
yes thanks nocturn! karma INDEEED!
and even at 56kbps it still sounds better than the dictaphone in my pocket that is fucker club. :lol:
It sounds like the Swans! DOOMY 8)
Amazing. Can't wait for this to finally drop.
They have a favorable review of it up at allmusic. Here's the link:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:9q08b5t4csq0
Stupid advance copies, I want it NOW!
Quote from: PAUL on April 16, 2006, 11:24:58 AM
They have a favorable review of it up at allmusic. Here's the link:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:9q08b5t4csq0
Stupid advance copies, I want it NOW!
There's three on half.com right now at fair prices. I wouldn't trust that guy "cascaiman" though, 7,000 neg feedbacks :shock: That fucking guy has every rare CD I've ever looked up on there, but I wouldn't chance it. The other seller has 35 negatives. I think I'd wait it out.
7,000 negative feedback?! fuck...
number 6,999 was asking for it, you know? i have no sympathy.
unless they have no idea what feedback is, then i feel sorry for em
Make that 9,000 negs out of 214,000 :P. He's one of those "power sellers" which I hate. They never ship within two days, and you're just one out of a hundred sales from that week. I buy a shitload of CDs off half.com, but I always support the little guy who's just selling from his/her personal collection.
Yeah at least that way the seller will actually respond to your questions and actually give you an answer if it was shipped.
Liner notes as posted on JB HiFi's website (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/id/872701):
Welcome to the
thanks rimb. This means that i may be able to find this rather easily when it comes out. Like at, um, jb :D
i really can't wait for this.
buzz has been doing more and more of these press-release expositions explaining to/communicating with fans/customers.
i like it
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 27, 2006, 10:15:17 AM
buzz has been doing more and more of these press-release expositions explaining to/communicating with fans/customers.
i like it
me too.
Me too to me too.
I would like him to make a book, I like his writing style, and it doesnt have to be Melvins related.
Buzz Osborne, the Norman Mailer of the future, hehe.
Quote from: klump on April 27, 2006, 02:43:30 PM
I would like him to make a book, I like his writing style, and it doesnt have to be Melvins related.
Buzz Osborne, the Norman Mailer of the future, hehe.
Brilliant idea! Seriously.
Clips are up at Amg. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE57F1AD346AA7120D4932B56C0B778E10FD746F48A3E274754D5B97F4B82006AD845D7BDC9F48917F87DB0FD27BB580FD3CCA257F6D964373F8EFED71D&sql=10:5dx7gjvr66im
Like always they manage to screw something up. "Honey Rucket"
the LA Harold called it Night Boat :lol:
Quote from: anaconda on April 29, 2006, 01:30:19 AM
the LA Harold called it Night Boat :lol:
Somewhere once (I forget where) night goat was entitled, "night coat" - a significantly less scary name.
"'Melvins played great grunge favorites tonight such as Sweet Willy Racecar, Tweetis, Coven, Lyle, Under from over Poop and the epic Your Welcome."
Quote from: blacksanta on April 29, 2006, 05:28:00 AM
"'Melvins played great grunge favorites tonight such as Sweet Willy Racecar, Tweetis, Coven, Lyle, Under from over Poop and the epic Your Welcome."
haha :lol:
THIS IS THE BEST LIVE ALBUM I'VE EVER HEARD.
whoever reviewed the album a while ago was totally wrong, it's so clear and good sounding.
i'm still listening to it, so i'll give you my review, if you want it, later...
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD IT,
OR WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE
This is for people who have heard the new album, such as myself.
I wonder if this is ok with the moderators to have this thread up, I think it's more significant because we will hear the actual fans from here discussing their thoughts on hearing it.
Maybe I love to rub it in, I guess, since I'm one of the first to hear it on this board, from what I know.
I'm also willing to share it with you if I know you're cool and stuff, on slsk, and perhaps on aim too.
I know I'M gonna buy this album when it comes out, and I expect YOU to as well.
In this review, I am speaking from my heart, and I swear on everything I say, not just because I'm a Melvins fan.
Pearl Bomb is the first song they played on the album/show.
it is perhaps the most heavy song on the album because of the surprising way they open it.
Dale is playing on hi-hat and kick drum, hitting the rim of the snare, tearing it up in a better beat than
the skipping sound in the original.
Buzz is playing along with Trevor Dunn, which makes it miraculous.
it is shorter than the studio version, which in my opinion, makes it better.
you can consider it as powerful as Skweetis.
Hooch is the second song to be played.
Yes, the vocals are a bit strong, especially on this one, but that's what I like.
Don't get me wrong, you can hear all the instruments beautifully too.
I suppose they wanted it that way because that's one of the most noticable lyrics of the Melvins.
It is played exactly like the studio version.
Night Goat is the 3rd song to be played.
The beginning atmospheric sound that comes from Buzz's guitar is awesome,
it reminds me of the Shining, while you are following Jack Torrences car in the mountains.
Then of course Trevor comes in with the famous bassline.
Dale plays it the way he plays it live, with those few cymbal hits with the kick drum.
You should know how the rest will be like if you've seen them play the song in the last few years.
Lizzy is the 4th song to be played.
This is possibly the best I've ever heard Buzz's voice sound.
This is his best singing song on the album.
His guitar has a better feel to it than in the original.
and Trevor's bass is magnificent also.
Goin' Blind is the 5th song to be played.
Buzz's guitar is a little more Distorted than in the original, so it's heavier.
Whoever is backing him up vocally, I'm assuming Dale, is doing a brilliant job.
You can tell the age in Buzz's voice, I love that.
CopAche is the 6th song to be played.
The bass is very very great, then Buzz comes in.
It's faster than the recorded version, and wayyyy better.
His guitar sounds a bit distant (but you can hear it perfectly), but screeching.
Set Me Straight/DHC is the 7th song.
Buzz is singing on this song, I suppose it's hard for Dale to do it at this point in the show.
But still, Dale is doing back up vocals, and still doing great.
They play a little bit of the song, then go to DHC
someone fill me in if this is a cover, because I don't know.
Whatever it is, it's brilliant.
Buzz does a little solo with Trevor, and then Dale has a little go as well.
I love the end of it, what Trevor does.
Sky Pup is the 8th song.
I believe Dale is singing on this song, it's cool.
There's an echoing in his voice, and it sounds very different from the original.
Buzz's guitar is stronger, and the most noticible thing about the song, besides Dale's(?) voice
it has a bit of an English/Australian accent.
Teet is the 9th song.
The Drums and Bass are strong in this song, since it cuts on and off to the rhythm section.
There's more harshness to the sound than the original, by which I mean power in the guitars
and a bit more of a darker feel.
Joan Of Arc is the 10th song.
Dale starts the vocals with that saying they start the song off with, and it has weird effects with it.
The scream that comes from Buzz and Dale set the song on fire, possibly one of the best screams.
This song is the best collaboration of Buzz and Dale's voices.
They are singing quietly at the end of the song, and distorted bass and drums comes in, and ends
the song and a few violinish screeches from Buzz's guitar.
A surprisingly good way to end the song.
Honey Bucket is the 11th song.
This song is way more fast than the original, possibly even more heavy.
Dale is tearing it up on drums, considering the fast pace of the song.
Before you know the song is on, it's over.
Hag Me is the 12th song.
It starts with screeches, the drums stick out more in this song.
They keep that same exact feel of dread and swaying in waves, that's the visual I get from this song.
You can probably understand Buzz's lyrics better on this album at times, and then not, but that's kind of expected.
I think all three are singing along on this song, like on the chorus.
The end of this song has always been my favorite part, and it doesn't let down.
They seem to enhance either the beginning or end to all of the songs.
The end becomes static like, and tingly, perhaps you'll understand when you hear.
The drums are the main reason for this, with the cymbals, they're messed around with electronically.
It adds a whole new atmosphere to the song, and then when you get into the very end,
a weird back up voice is singing with voice saying "HEY!", very weird and cool
Spread Eagle Beagle is the last song.
This song...is...so...fucking...great.
They mess with the drums and add electronic stuff with it.
This song feels like it's coming at you, running towards you and attacking.
some of the sounds that come out are so cool sounding, and randomly strange.
Dale's drumming becomes more messed around with as it goes along, going and coming back to you.
The beats are spliced, making for a very cool effect.
They keep on using effects for the song, which adds a new admiration for the song.
all right, i've just described the first FOURTH of the song!
now the drums really get going, and there's a sound effect that goes in and out playing with him.
it's an outer space laser gun kind of sound. powowwowowiggitywowow.
but it's not exactly that either...
The drums keep on getting soft then loud, completely taking over, and not.
you hear the drums as they actually are, and then they sound like they're coming from another room from
across the hall, it's completely insane, but you will love it to death.
This song let's Dale shine, of course.
The outer space sound comes in and out too, just like the drums.
hear it in your left ear, then right, all about atmosphere.
Space sounds come and go, the song kind of stops, but Dale hits the drums once and a while,
with weird sound effects coming in and out, surprising you to know when it's over.
the last minute comes, and it's just the space sound going away.
And that's the album.
You guys who haven't heard it will love it like I do.
This is an album that doesn't disappoint ANY Melvins fan.
The best Live album I've ever heard.
I'm not kidding.
everyone here will of course buy and pay for this album, and if not..."they have to answer to the man upstairs" as it says on the back of Bullhead.
Quote from: klump on April 29, 2006, 04:32:20 PM
everyone here will of course buy and pay for this album, and if not..."they have to answer to the man upstairs" as it says on the back of Bullhead.
haha, hell yeah.
this is definately a "Buy", and a superb one if that.
but there is nothing wrong with downloading their albums, we all support them one way or another.
keep trying klump, connection goes on and off
hope this will explain some of the awesomeness that this album puts out.
my personal favorite songs I'm really into now are 'Pearl Bomb' and 'Spread Eagle Beagle' since they're so different.
and if I do help ya'll out, Give Me Karma!
I do that to people who help me out, especially outside of the board :D
I don't know why I got all those smites, it degrades my point of view in posts
atleast that's what I think.
I wish we didn't have the voting system on here, it's like a popularity contest.
:shock: heh, sorry, i wasn't in the right state of mind when i said that.
wooooooooooooooooooooo!
You have just confirmed for me that Houdini Live...
will be an awesome album like I knew it was going to be.
Sounds like Spread Eagle Beagle
is spruced up based on your review of it. Great review, man.
Houdini already had some of the Melvins greatest songs and the updated versions from this album will in no doubt improve upon them.
whoever has the soulseek name Electric Frost, I'd like to thank you for letting me download this thouroughly INCREDIBLE album from you. And if you don't like me broadcasting your name, I apologise
and yeah, this is the heaviest the Melvins have ever been
the audio clips sounds really good, too damn short though.
17 more fucking days :x
Quotethis is the heaviest the Melvins have ever been
A bold statement, I CANT WAIT (whats slsk?)
slsk = soulseek
I think i'm gonna wait and not download this. As wanky as it sounds i like the feeling of actually finding a new melvins album (which can be hard here sometimes) and getting it home, chucking in my cd player and hearing it then for the first time. I find that i lose that when i download something. And, i mean, it's the melvins so i'm gonna buy it anyway so i might as well wait. I'm sure from what you've all said that it's worth the wait.
disclaimer: i have nothing against anyone that has downloaded it. haha, as long as they end up buying a copy :wink:
Quote from: mopafeena on April 30, 2006, 06:59:07 AM
slsk = soulseek
I think i'm gonna wait and not download this. As wanky as it sounds i like the feeling of actually finding a new melvins album (which can be hard here sometimes) and getting it home, chucking in my cd player and hearing it then for the first time. I find that i lose that when i download something. And, i mean, it's the melvins so i'm gonna buy it anyway so i might as well wait. I'm sure from what you've all said that it's worth the wait.
disclaimer: i have nothing against anyone that has downloaded it. haha, as long as they end up buying a copy
WOW
i just heard the pearl bomb preview and said out loud, "I'm excited."
great hearing the pearl bomb beat on drums
Pearl Bomb Beat On Drums.
that's real fun to say
From what i can gather from Allmusic, DHC is a song by the Dance Hall Crashers? Im just trying to find the original song on slsk to see if it sounds the same as the Melvins cover version.
EDIT: Yeah, im pretty sure its not the same song, hehe. Cant really see them liking ska-punk very much, let alone covering it.
Quote from: Cloud on April 29, 2006, 09:09:48 PM
whoever has the soulseek name Electric Frost, I'd like to thank you for letting me download this thouroughly INCREDIBLE album from you. And if you don't like me broadcasting your name, I apologise
and yeah, this is the heaviest the Melvins have ever been
YEAH!
Electric Frost is a really nice guy, he is who I d/led from too.
Really really nice guy, I wasn't going to bring his name up since we had a good talk and I don't want him getting 1000 uploads at once, but he loves sharing music.
I told him about this site and that I'm on it and stuff, and he should stop by sometime.
this seriously probably is the heaviest I've seen the Melvins.
It's pretty metal, I mean, in a Melvins way.
i just talked to him and he said uploads don't bother him
still if you do d/l from him, talk to him a bit, he listens to really good music and is originally from washington and stuff.
Surely there's some info about DHC in the liner notes (if it's a cover) or have people that have heard it only downloaded it?
Quote from: FART LIPS on April 30, 2006, 08:05:32 AM
maybe the only two incredibly nitpicky things i can come up with are wishing they had left some crowd noise in the recording, and maybe dss playing guitar to fill out parts like the rythym gtr. under the going blind solo, just for the original houdini recording's sake.
Yes- I agree.
Thanks for the review, cap'tn.
Quote from: blacksanta on April 29, 2006, 05:28:00 AM
"'Melvins played great grunge favorites tonight such as Sweet Willy Racecar, Tweetis, Coven, Lyle, Under from over Poop and the epic Your Welcome."
you and skizm should hook up. if I may quote the great skizm-bits talking about his favorite melvins track on the "all time favorite melvins track" thread:
definately impossible to pick. i always originally thought "operation blessing" then last week it was "pink bat" and tonight it's "sweet butterfly". depends more on the mood. fuck knows maybe "manky" or "creepy smell"?
operation blessing? sweet butterfly? I love that.
haha cheerz for the props glenski!
I'm officially on the "insiders" list. listening to it right now. it fucking rocks, pure and simple.
I agree with the "no crowd noise" thing. sounds kinda strange when you know its live but you can't hear ANY crowd noise.
Makes me think that it wasn't played in front of an audience, not even an 'invitation only' one.
I think they played it live to tape in an empty warehouse. There's no way that we wouldn't hear
even a bit crowd noise leaking thru the open mics.
Quote from: anaconda on May 01, 2006, 04:20:51 PM
Makes me think that it wasn't played in front of an audience, not even an 'invitation only' one.
I think they played it live to tape in an empty warehouse. There's no way that we wouldn't hear
even a bit crowd noise leaking thru the open mics.
agreed. but couldn't they take all that out after the fact? say during mixing?
The guitars could be direct lines to the board so they wouldn't pick up crowd noise,
though I find this very unlikely, I think Buzz would mic his amp to get a nice crunch.
Even so, the drum mics and the vocal mics would be open, and presumably
would pick up crowd noise. Unless they had a sign that said 'hold your applause'
throughout the whole set, I don't buy it.
You will buy it and like it. :)
By "Invitation Only" they meant three people. They were called the Melvins.
man, that's so funny!!! ........sounds like a typical Melvins style prank - hope it's true
didn't Alice Donut release a live recording with inserted crowd noise!? - Dry Humping The Cash Cow
:P
thats what I was going to say! in regards, it's probably better that they
DIDN'T resort to putting in some cheesy, canned applause
U2 used crowd noise from a Doors live album on Rattle and Hum!
Quote from: rimb_38 on May 01, 2006, 08:39:06 PM
U2 used crowd noise from a Doors live album on Rattle and Hum!
That's hilarious :lol: fuck i hate U2
ya, they took the intro applause from roadhouse blues done live
Quote from: anaconda on May 01, 2006, 04:20:51 PM
Makes me think that it wasn't played in front of an audience, not even an 'invitation only' one.
I think they played it live to tape in an empty warehouse. There's no way that we wouldn't hear
even a bit crowd noise leaking thru the open mics.
possibly true.
maybe the melvins just don't have any fans?
but, this will be one more thing to idolize kiss.
kiss alive was mainly done in the studio, making it not so live.
i really don't care if they did that or not.
it's a solid album anyway you slice it, this was atleast done in one take, that part's pretty obvious.
:)
Quote from: Vcavallo on April 30, 2006, 11:48:57 AM
WOW
i just heard the pearl bomb preview and said out loud, "I'm excited."
great hearing the pearl bomb beat on drums
Pearl Bomb Beat On Drums.
that's real fun to say
oh yeah!
that is a phenominal rerecording of the song.
I'm thinking about recording this song, the way he plays it.
also, Buzz is playing along, which is a huge surpise to us as well.
is Dale singing? it doesn't sound like Buzz.
i love the sound that comes right at the beginning, kinda a boingish sound.
the song reminds me of honey bucket's intensity with boris' heavyness.
i've listened to the whole album about 6 or 7 times all the way through.
that's pretty good considering my busy schedule.
of course man, we all love it! And it is better that you don't hear some lame-ass shouting from the 'crowd'
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 01, 2006, 09:50:41 PM
i've listened to the whole album about 6 or 7 times all the way through.
that's pretty good considering my busy schedule.
where'd you get it?!?! where is everyone getting it???? i feel so left out! i wanna hear!
Quote from: mopafeena on April 30, 2006, 06:59:07 AM
slsk = soulseek
I think i'm gonna wait and not download this. As wanky as it sounds i like the feeling of actually finding a new melvins album (which can be hard here sometimes) and getting it home, chucking in my cd player and hearing it then for the first time. I find that i lose that when i download something. And, i mean, it's the melvins so i'm gonna buy it anyway so i might as well wait. I'm sure from what you've all said that it's worth the wait.
disclaimer: i have nothing against anyone that has downloaded it. haha, as long as they end up buying a copy
Don't you guys think that if it was an invitation only show the crowd that they invited would be cool enough not to make a bunch of noise after they are told that an album is being recorded?
I have it dl'ed, but am thinking about waiting til the morning to blast it full voume. i don't know if i'll be able to control myself thogh.
Some interesting news: apparently Lustmord "added a few touches to it" whatever that means.
Quote from: rimb_38 on May 02, 2006, 02:11:06 AM
Some interesting news: apparently Lustmord "added a few touches to it" whatever that means.
Interesting. i wonder what he did.
does anyone know if ipecac or alternatitve tentatcles is planning on releasing this on wax? i hope so.
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 01, 2006, 09:44:38 PM
maybe the melvins just don't have any fans?
then what the hell am I doing here?
Quote from: mopafeena on May 02, 2006, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: rimb_38 on May 02, 2006, 02:11:06 AM
Some interesting news: apparently Lustmord "added a few touches to it" whatever that means.
Interesting. i wonder what he did.
i bet he did the messing of the voices, and a lot of help on spread eagle beagle, you know, whenever really weird stuff happens, it's probably lustmord.
it all makes sense now.
most likely.
maybe not right away, though.
i hope they do as well.
Thanks to whoever let me snag it from them online... I hope they release it on wax because i'd like to pick it up...
I like it all except Honey Buckets.
What was one of my very favs on the regular album is one of my least favs on this live thing.
Its played too damn fast. They rush it, Dale doesnt get to do cool fills because its just too damn fast and kinda sloppy sounding. Everything else sounds really good
Quote from: zach on May 02, 2006, 10:27:28 AM
Thanks to whoever let me snag it from them online... I hope they release it on wax because i'd like to pick it up...
I like it all except Honey Buckets.
What was one of my very favs on the regular album is one of my least favs on this live thing.
Its played too damn fast. They rush it, Dale doesnt get to do cool fills because its just too damn fast and kinda sloppy sounding. Everything else sounds really good
i hate when they do this live. i said this recently in another thread
Quote from: Vcavallo on May 02, 2006, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: zach on May 02, 2006, 10:27:28 AM
I like it all except Honey Buckets.
What was one of my very favs on the regular album is one of my least favs on this live thing.
Its played too damn fast. They rush it, Dale doesnt get to do cool fills because its just too damn fast and kinda sloppy sounding. Everything else sounds really good
i hate when they do this live. i said this recently in another thread
They actually 'rush' a lot of songs live. There aren't many bands who play like that, that I know of.
I want to see more pictures of the artwork, the cover isn't enough for me.
yeah but, to me HAG ME is right on time. slow as all jehu. one of the few occasions where it isn't speeded up.
liste to Bloated Pope from the Nov. 5 show on vinny's goldmine. then pop in the studio version. its double time live, easy.
i like to hear different versions of songs, and if honey bucket needs to be sped up, i'm cool with that.
honey bucket is a wide-known song if you know melvins, atleast people who i know who know a little about the melvins know that song.
actually, honey bucket wasn't one of my faves off the original.
i got back into honey bucket because the video was insane and was a perfect match.
(sorry to bring up a band you all probably despise)
the white stripes (or jack white) play(s) the guitar differently each show they play, it's something really weird.
it's better than their actual recordings most of the time, and usually faster.
believe it or not, jack white and buzzo are similar in their styles, they aren't soloists, but make kick ass riffs.
Im sitting here with a real live copy of the NEWDINI...and ITS AMAZING!
I got it in London yesterday at the Fanty-Melvins concert.
Everyone who was in doubt about the artwork can "kiss my pecker", cause Mackie delivers LIKE ALWAYS.
So wash the doubt away and buy this record its "hella" worth it!
Quote from: klump on May 02, 2006, 04:49:27 PM
Im sitting here with a real live copy of the NEWDINI...and ITS AMAZING!
I got it in London yesterday at the Fanty-Melvins concert.
Everyone who was in doubt about the artwork can "kiss my pecker", cause Mackie delivers LIKE ALWAYS.
So wash the doubt away and buy this record its "hella" worth it!
awesome!
can't wait.
i'll have to wait til' the 21st to get it though...
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 02, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
(sorry to bring up a band you all probably despise)
the white stripes (or jack white) play(s) the guitar differently each show they play, it's something really weird.
it's better than their actual recordings most of the time, and usually faster.
believe it or not, jack white and buzzo are similar in their styles, they aren't soloists, but make kick ass riffs.
Why would people despise the White stripes? They're good.
Quote from: KURDTLUVUR! on May 02, 2006, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 02, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
(sorry to bring up a band you all probably despise)
the white stripes (or jack white) play(s) the guitar differently each show they play, it's something really weird.
it's better than their actual recordings most of the time, and usually faster.
believe it or not, jack white and buzzo are similar in their styles, they aren't soloists, but make kick ass riffs.
Why would people despise the White stripes? They're good.
Popularity = backlash, no matter how good the band is, unfortunately.
Makes sense.
Quote from: rimb_38 on May 02, 2006, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: KURDTLUVUR! on May 02, 2006, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 02, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
(sorry to bring up a band you all probably despise)
the white stripes (or jack white) play(s) the guitar differently each show they play, it's something really weird.
it's better than their actual recordings most of the time, and usually faster.
believe it or not, jack white and buzzo are similar in their styles, they aren't soloists, but make kick ass riffs.
Why would people despise the White stripes?
I ordered this from half.com today. I hope it's not a scam. This album is soooooooooooo fucking good. Nightgoat makes the earth move.
Quote from: klump on May 02, 2006, 04:49:27 PM
Im sitting here with a real live copy of the NEWDINI...and ITS AMAZING!
I got it in London yesterday at the Fanty-Melvins concert.
Everyone who was in doubt about the artwork can "kiss my pecker", cause Mackie delivers LIKE ALWAYS.
So wash the doubt away and buy this record its "hella" worth it!
Is it that black cover with the dodo bird?
overall after quite a few listens, i like it alot.
i agree with HoneyBucket it is a bit sloppy...i like the fact you cannot hear the "crowd".ha...
honestly, i would have much rather have an uptodate live StonerWitch-but you can't always win. blargh.
Lustmord is all over SpreadEagle. indeed.
thanks for the great review/kick to the face Capt.-NC represent. or something.
Quote from: Jack Mort on May 02, 2006, 11:32:07 PM
Nightgoat makes the earth move.
Hey!?
I thought it was Chuck Norris who did that??!!
Quote from: WithEvilTeeth on May 03, 2006, 04:25:52 PM
overall after quite a few listens, i like it alot.
i agree with HoneyBucket it is a bit sloppy...i like the fact you cannot hear the "crowd".ha...
honestly, i would have much rather have an uptodate live StonerWitch-but you can't always win. blargh.
Lustmord is all over SpreadEagle. indeed.
thanks for the great review/kick to the face Capt.-NC represent. or something.
thanks man, thanks all of ya'll who said thanks for the review if I haven't said it yet.
I would have liked Stoner Witch to be remade as well, instead of Houdini.
Yes, you can say, why would you wanna change a masterpiece?
well, who cares, that's my favorite Atlantic years album, maybe because it was my first listening of Melvins.
I think it would be mindblowing for them to make Stoner Witch into such a heavy album as Houdini Live.
I would also like to see Bullhead remade, see what their take is on it after all of these years have passed.
All of these albums are gems as it is, but some of the songs don't get played anymore live.
A new remade album would be a reason to be able to hear them live again.
Quote from: KURDTLUVUR! on May 02, 2006, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 02, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
believe it or not, jack white and buzzo are similar in their styles, they aren't soloists, but make kick ass riffs.
Why would people despise the White stripes?
I can understand the comparison.
i asked ipecac, they said NO
Quote from: Vcavallo on May 03, 2006, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: KURDTLUVUR! on May 02, 2006, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on May 02, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
believe it or not, jack white and buzzo are similar in their styles, they aren't soloists, but make kick ass riffs.
Why would people despise the White stripes? They're good.
their first album was quite good. i'm not sure about their more recent stuff.
they were raw back then.
Quote from: klump on May 04, 2006, 01:50:03 AM
I can understand the comparison.
yeah, that's exactly right, they both have a raw type of sound, except WS new stuff.
where do i recognise that dhc song from??
Quote from: Green Honey on May 04, 2006, 05:29:42 PM
where do i recognise that dhc song from??
yeah?!
theres something familiar with that melodic chorus
Quote from: mopafeena on May 04, 2006, 07:02:45 AM
Quote from: the crybaby on May 04, 2006, 06:26:26 AM
i asked ipecac, they said NO
:(
Well, alternative tentacles have done that last 4 Melvins vinyls haven't they?
Fingers crossed anyway.
Quote from: klump on May 04, 2006, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: Green Honey on May 04, 2006, 05:29:42 PM
where do i recognise that dhc song from??
yeah?!
theres something familiar with that melodic chorus
i recognised the opening riff instantly when i first heard it, pretty sure its a cover (or maybe a reeally old melvins song)
DCH is a Cream cover isn't it?
Quote from: WithEvilTeeth on May 06, 2006, 01:55:55 AM
DCH is a Cream cover isn't it?
I think you're thinking of NSU
Yeah, but correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of their live albums have been released on vinyl.
Quote from: PAUL on May 06, 2006, 05:02:19 PM
Yeah, but correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of their live albums have been released on vinyl.
but....
their other live albums aren't as good as this, and not as recent as this.
like he said, they released some of the newer melvins stuff on alternative tentacles,
since they've been with jello, so it is most likely going to happen.
Live albums sound even more "live" on vinyl too.
I remember listening to one of my dads Rolling Stones concerts on vinyl, and the sound was really "real"...If you understand what I mean :)
the crackling, pop and fizz has its charm.
but Im no vinyl buff, I prefer cds because they are practicle and reliable.
the more I listen to this the more I realize how entirely wrong every recorded interpretation of the lyrics are.
thats a beautiful thing. melvins lyrics shouldn't be recorded in written word, it wasn't meant to be.
Pigs sounds nasty on vinyl.
in a good way.
theres hardly any hissing and popping on the album.
you get more hiss and pops from records that are old and used over.
Quote from: PAUL on May 06, 2006, 05:02:19 PM
Yeah, but correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of their live albums have been released on vinyl.
I just got the Your Choice Live album on vinyl last week, but that's not really "their" album anyway.
Quote from: Uncle Fester on May 06, 2006, 10:31:53 PM
Pigs sounds nasty on vinyl.
in a good way.
theres hardly any hissing and popping on the album.
you get more hiss and pops from records that are old and used over.
yeah, but theres a "rumbly" feeling :)
I think Buzz has changed some of the lyrics.
you might be right Cap'n...
i coulda sworn i read in Revolver or some generic metal mag it was a Cream cover...oh well.
Quote from: glen on February 22, 2006, 05:37:07 PM
may is too fucking far away. I would have rather they announced it in early April so the anticipation wasn't so bad.
sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Oh man. This weekend has been a long one. I was home alone, lliterally alone, and I ddi nothing but listening music and smoking. Only vague memories come to mind. Both Friday and Saturday night I passed out. This morning I skipped college and was eagered to have some hash, reading the newspaper in the sunny backyard and playing the new Houdini in the background. I did manage to burn Houdini on cd, roll the joint, get the newspaper and put on Houdini, but ended up after my laptop instead. The door is open though.
Spread Eagle Beagle came in and I wondered what you all though of it before I was gonna mention again how great it is. When it was over, and I enjoyed reading the whole thread again, I decided to play the album another time. Copache is on now. It's really cool to know there's no audience at all, or the few that were there were really quiet. Typically Melvins.
God I love them, I love the way they keep sounding fresh, even with a record as Houdini, which is a pretty well-known album. I love the way Buzz sounds different on Set Me Straght. And I enjoy the sound of another 'new' bass player, on this record at least. And I wanna know what that NSU is.
Quote from: klump on May 07, 2006, 05:52:10 AM
Quote from: Uncle Fester on May 06, 2006, 10:31:53 PM
Pigs sounds nasty on vinyl.
in a good way.
theres hardly any hissing and popping on the album.
you get more hiss and pops from records that are old and used over.
yeah, but theres a "rumbly" feeling :)
oh definatley. This album is meant to rumble. lol.
The best record store in town closed its doors (grrr), so I was forced to to pre-order the disc at a chain store because otherwise they wouldn't have ordered it. I just got a call to come pick up my order... a week early!! I don't think it would be polite to correct him... :lol:
ManWithNoName - check out CD Warehouse on Clyde if you are impatient for the release date! :lol:
my boyfriend found the promo copy in generation today- used for eight bucks. yeah that was a pretty good find. hes got it now so i havent listened to it but the orders wacky and the inside design so so.
will get and burn cd tomorrow. very happy with todays purchases.
I can feel Houdini Live 2005 coming closer......
Date Time Location Event Details
May 16, 2006 10:12:00 PM KOELN (COLOGNE) DE Arrival Scan
May 16, 2006 09:10:00 AM PHILADELPHIA PA US Departure Scan
May 15, 2006 11:17:00 PM PHILADELPHIA PA US Arrival Scan
May 15, 2006 10:30:00 PM NEWARK DE US Departure Scan
May 15, 2006 07:36:00 PM NEWARK DE US Shipment picked up from seller's facility
Hopefully my local place will have it in, I was pleasently suprised to see copies of both the Lustmord & Jello Colabs on the shelf. Thats a pretty amazing thing to see where I live.
I'm very much looking forward to hearing this.
The CD opens from the front. It's freaking me out, man... :o
I got it in the mail Wednesday from CD Universe. Been listening to it for the last two days. Fucking awesome. Melvins are probably one of the few bands today that can re-record one of their classic albums and have it sound better than the original.
Nice minimalist artwork. The only thing I can think of with the "proper" CD sleeve this time is that they save the lone Melvins CDs with "new" material for the "front on back" design.
Mine finally came from southern yesterday. With free TODD stickers \m/
I like it. This new version of Pearl Bomb is 10000000x better than the original.
Spread Eagle is way better too.
All good. Buzzo's voice is better than ever.
Copache is still a bit boring but what can you do.
Just got mine today from CD Universe. It is just totally amazing in my estimation. You're right, Buzzo's voice is killer and everything is just WOW! That would have been sweet to be at that show. Wonder if Goodtimes was there? Toshi recorded it, that's cool to have a producer in the mix of MELVINS/Altamont, etc. Shite I just love the MELVINS. NEAT! :x
Has this seen the light of day?
http://www.zapbang.org/music/interviews/1/
So is DCH a cover song? who is it by?
Quote from: brian on May 20, 2006, 12:27:59 PM
So is DCH a cover song? who is it by?
Deserted Cities of the Heart by Cream
thanks ben
http://www.themelvins.net/discography/live/houdinilive/index.shtml
Quote from: Green Honey on May 20, 2006, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: brian on May 20, 2006, 12:27:59 PM
So is DCH a cover song? who is it by?
Deserted Cities of the Heart by Cream
Damn, I knew it was a Cream song(from Wheels Of Fire), couldn't think of it, and didn't really give it much thought. I've had all the Cream stuff on tape since I was a youngster. I think there's a really good version of that on Cream - Live Volume 2.
I've noticed that Buzzo changed the lyrics on most of the tracks.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on May 20, 2006, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Green Honey on May 20, 2006, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: brian on May 20, 2006, 12:27:59 PM
So is DCH a cover song? who is it by?
Deserted Cities of the Heart by Cream
Damn, I knew it was a Cream song(from Wheels Of Fire), couldn't think of it, and didn't really give it much thought. I've had all the Cream stuff on tape since I was a youngster. I think there's a really good version of that on Cream - Live Volume 2.
ah, i was wrong, it was by them.
QuoteSpread Eagle is way better too.
Apart from that stupid squeal right at the start... :shock:
that's pearl bomb
Quote from: Joe Deutrom on May 20, 2006, 01:39:25 PM
I've noticed that Buzzo changed the lyrics on most of the tracks.
Or forgot the original lyrics.
i like that squeal.
Quote from: steve on May 22, 2006, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: anaconda on May 22, 2006, 08:44:25 AM
that's pearl bomb
Nope... Set me straight, too.
I hear it there as well, but not on Spread Eagle like you originally posted
Quote from: PAUL on May 22, 2006, 10:48:36 AM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom on May 20, 2006, 01:39:25 PM
I've noticed that Buzzo changed the lyrics on most of the tracks.
Or forgot the original lyrics.
I noticed on lizzy how he changed 'heavy betty big bone'
to 'heavy metal beach bum' lol
and on teet where he sings 'might even petrify my carpet wheel' what the??
:o
I'm just a moron... I meant Set Me Straight... :?
How does it generally sound?
can you tell its a live recording? The milleniun monster works big band album sounded like a studio recording other than then hearing the audience.
Quote from: Uncle Fester on May 22, 2006, 11:22:48 PM
How does it generally sound?
can you tell its a live recording? The milleniun monster works big band album sounded like a studio recording other than then hearing the audience.
Well you can't hear the audience at all on this one. Sounds like they're playing live in your living room though. Much better than Millenium Monsterworks.
Im listening to it right now.
wasnt there a really small crowd for this one?
it does sound farely nice for a live recording.
but millenium monsterworks....... i was surprised to find out it was live.... its a really detailed sound.....you can hear everything fine.
highlights for me are sky pup, pearlbomb and hag me. sky pup and pearl bomb came out very nice live.
trevor dunne is amazing on set me straight and going blind.
Euforicly good, Houdini Live. Nothing more to say.
I went downtown half-hoping to find it and I did. I knew that if I did find it, it would be expensive as hell but it wasn't all that bad. 19$ instead of 24$. Take that, conda!
i loved houdini, but too hear it faster was awsome. uncontrollable flatout noisey riffs to slow dirty chunky fat ones with fat arse beats. sweet! nice and raw, cant use words to explain it.
It's been a week, and it's the first Melvins since HAT that I've felt the need to play through all the way at least once a day. It's weird, houdini was the first melvins i listened too, way back in '94. (On vinyl in the cut-out bin for 5.99 nonetheless :P) It was quickly eclipsed as other albums made their way to me, it always had a transitional too-much-metallic sheen feel to it, Houdini and Prick always felt like a training bra between the heaviest one can get Lysol and the trippy, smooth and psychedelicly mature Stoner Witch.
The lack of numerous producers, studios etc. makes this re-recording much smoother and less awkward than the original. The sheer amount of people with their hands in the pie imo made the original a disjointed listen. (don't get me wrong, it still rules, this is just my criticism of it).
The one specific thing i want to comment on is how brilliant Trevor Dunn's playing is. It's so smooth, poppy and necessary to the sound. He does melodic things, and even brings out unheard of before melody, to some of the most abrasive noisy riffage ever put to disc. it's a shame he's only temporary.
Quote from: blacksanta on May 23, 2006, 09:59:30 PM
it's a shame he's only temporary.
Amen, brotha. I would love to see dunnman join the melvins.
Hooch was the song that got me hooked on The Melvins, and on Houdini Live the song gets a revival for my part. Along with Honey Bucket, it`s mindblowingly mean to hear, either in the car on my way to work, or in my home. At the highest volume might I add.
Best rock-band to have ever walked on this planet.
Quote from: SchnabelA on May 24, 2006, 01:55:23 AM
Best rock-band to have ever walked on this planet.
a karma worthy statement. just take the "rock" part out. best BAND to have ever walked this planet.
artwork is amazing.
the back could be the cover, not to say that the front is bad though, it's fuckin' awesome too.
is there a message here we're all missing? the do do bird, an extinct animal.
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Quote from: glen on May 24, 2006, 10:36:16 AM
is there a message here we're all missing? the do do bird, an extinct animal.
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
HAHA
nice notice Glen!
karma karma arma
i just got this thing today. i also just got rid of my origional Houdini today. this new one is awsome and hilarious at the same time. (black....black...black....bLack...black...black....black.............SNOWMAN!!) and pearl bomb is just incredible. i
Quote from: SchnabelA on May 24, 2006, 01:55:23 AM
Hooch was the song that got me hooked on The Melvins, and on Houdini Live the song gets a revival for my part. Along with Honey Bucket, it`s mindblowingly mean to hear, either in the car on my way to work, or in my home. At the highest volume might I add.
I think the drum intro on the live album is a bit weak compared to the original. The rest of the song makes up for it though.
in classic melvins fashion, I find myself becoming more addicted to this the more I listen to it.
also get a heavy on the volume through it. by the time I get to hag me my ears are bleeding.
Dimebag died to make this record so everybody should listen to it.
Quote from: chuck hartford on May 26, 2006, 06:13:49 AM
Dimebag died to make this record so everybody should listen to it.
don't go there chuck. don't get me to crying. I've finally gathered myself back together from the 'Behind the Music' incident.
I just got this last night along with Mangled Demos From 1983. :D/
i am proud ta say that i am a new owner of this lovely, lovely live show in cd form.....
thank you melvins!!!
fuck that cream cover is soooooooooooooo good.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on May 31, 2006, 01:34:34 PM
fuck that cream cover is soooooooooooooo good.
hell yeah manwith. I been thinking the same thing. who picks better songs to cover AND covers them better than MELVINS?
perfect song for them. melvins can truely make a smokin song 10 times better.
I like how on Night Goat about a few minutes into it, they start picking up the tempo a little. It's just cool to know they don't bother fucking around with click tracks like most bands would when making an album this way.
others have probably thought this too,
spread eagle is like a dale and lusty type of updated COD excursion
I am also among those who pawned their Atlantic Houdini after purveying the new redux.
There was a neat sticker on the CD wrapping that said:
The energy of live, with the quality of studio.
was this just a canuck record market anomalie???
I got that sticker on mine too.
good evening, gentle folk. i'm a regular on the primus bullboard, but i've lurked here every now and then for a long time now. ordinarily, i couldn't be bothered to register to post here, but with A Live History of Gluttony and Lust currently assaulting my inner ears, i found it necessary to post here for the first time ever.
i'm trying to decipher the hilarious new lyrics to Sky Pup (sung on this album, i believe, by Dale). I've got some of them:
This is a tale
of one li'l fellow.
His hair in coif,
and his skin colored yellow.
????
????
And did other things
that required his wits.
He sat in a desk
in a big booster seat.
But when he sunk in,
whispering(?) to his feet.
????
?? performed a tango (?)
????
Bingo, bongo, bango.
please fill in the blanks for me, as i am retarded.
i'm sure those lyrics are remade for the new album.
not dis-confirming your lyrics though.
Mine didn't have that sticker. There was a funny one on POTRE though I seem to remember. I'm not pawning the old Houdini but it ain't going to get much play anymore. Honey Bucket is probably the only track that is better on the old one for me.
Quote from: anaconda on June 03, 2006, 01:58:18 AM
I am also among those who pawned their Atlantic Houdini after purveying the new redux.
you didn't pawn it for real, did you? hold on to that stuff man, its the melvins. a complete collection is a must.
Bands should record live in the studio or as a band rather than individual parts. Screw all the perfectionist editing. Post production should only be utilized if you were to add an effect or something. Not if something is slightly off pitch. But all bands are different this way. It seems more realistic and human if it was done this way. I think Albini is right about this. Electronic music would benefit this way too as some people complain that electronic music is cold and soulless.
Quote from: anaconda on June 03, 2006, 01:58:18 AM
was this just a canuck record market anomalie???
I had one of those suckers on there too but I'm a canuck.
I think these are right, the first part at least... after that I forgot to keep listening and readin them.
and congrats on the first post. :D
Good topic, I was tempted to start one about this very subject
I'm getting something like this:
This is a tale
of one li'l fellow.
His hair in coif,
and his skin colored yellow.
He took a retort,
instead of a piss
And did other things
that required his wits.
He sat at his desk
in a big booster seat.
But when he sunk in,
whispering to his feet,
if that doesn't fit
I'll perform a tango
Whilest shouting out loud
Bingo, bongo, bango.
i like the original to the live.
it's more mysterious.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on June 03, 2006, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: anaconda on June 03, 2006, 01:58:18 AM
was this just a canuck record market anomalie???
I had one of those suckers on there too but I'm a canuck.
what's a canuck?
Nice new signature, Jamie. I'm following your advice right now :D
its a fancy word for someone living in Canadia
what's canada?
oh yeah, it's nothing.
haha, sorry manwith, i'm sure the scenery is lovely!
(i shouldn't be making jokes, i'm from nc.)
ya, whats up with you shits in the deep south?
the pung meant to say "smoke boners and go to pot in a year" :lol:
Quote from: FART LIPS on June 04, 2006, 07:53:08 PM
the pung meant to say "smoke boners and go to pot in a year" :lol:
someone gave me 1 more -
wtf!
yeah, i smoke a lot of boners.
Quote from: CaptainPungent on June 04, 2006, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: FART LIPS on June 04, 2006, 07:53:08 PM
the pung meant to say "smoke boners and go to pot in a year" :lol:
someone gave me 1 more -
wtf!
yeah, i smoke a lot of boners.
:shock: :shock: :o :shock: :shock:
Quote from: anaconda on June 04, 2006, 04:34:15 PM
ya, whats up with you shits in the deep south?
hey, dont get your snowblowers in a wad there, hoser. go back to chasin' glaciers and wrapping bacon around your women to make them more inticing, you plaid-wearin' klondike! :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh farty :lol:
Quote from: CaptainPungent on June 04, 2006, 08:38:38 PM
yeah, i smoke a lot of boners.
whatever it takes to pay the bills.
for the record, I agree with cap on the studio vs. live version of sky pup. gimme the studio version.
pearl bomb, on the other hand... its all about the live version.
I don't want to mislead the impressionable here, I didn't actually pawn my Atlantic Houdini,
it was just a figure of expression for how much better the new live version is (IMO).
Quote from: anaconda on June 05, 2006, 08:37:15 AM
I don't want to mislead the impressionable here, I didn't actually pawn my Atlantic Houdini,
it was just a figure of expression for how much better the new live version is (IMO).
Well, it's great to have you back, Brad :lol:
Quote from: anaconda on June 05, 2006, 08:37:15 AM
I don't want to mislead the impressionable here
who you callin impressionininable? :P
Quote from: FART LIPS on June 04, 2006, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: anaconda on June 04, 2006, 04:34:15 PM
ya, whats up with you shits in the deep south?
hey, dont get your snowblowers in a wad there, hoser. go back to chasin' glaciers and wrapping bacon around your women to make them more inticing, you plaid-wearin' klondike! :lol: :lol: :lol:
heheh
that's one of the best stereotype put downs i've ever heard, well...read.
be glad to be able to use the term glacier, 30 years from now your kids won't know what a glacier is.
The funny thing is that I lived in California until my mid teens,
and I find Toronto very similar to Glendale or Santa Ana, maybe
even warmer during the summer months!
Quote from: chuck hartford on May 20, 2006, 07:36:36 AM
Has this seen the light of day?
http://www.zapbang.org/music/interviews/1/
Yes.
He sat at his desk
in a big booster seat.
But when he sunk in,
whispering to his feet,
and dance us a jig
or perform a tango
Whilest shouting out loud
Bingo, bongo, bango
This is a tale
of one li'l fellow.
His hair in coif
and his skin colored yellow.
He twiddled with knobs
and fiddled with bits
And did other things
that required his wits.
I love Buzz as much as the next Melvins fan... but he sure does have some huge chips on his shoulders.
I know i took my fuckin time....................BUT.........................i finally got Gluttony n Lust today..........................FUCKIN WICKED! Joan Of Arc absolutely DEVAFUCKINSTATING! 8) The whole thing is great and the biggest surprise for me was Spread Eagle Beagle............this live version is great :cheers: Lustmord gels so well with it.
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/melvins/houdini-live-2005-a-live-history-of-gluttony-and-lust.htm
Calling into question the meaning of a
QuoteBingo, bongo, bango.
Referencing the great Bill Schonley, radio announcer for the Portland Trailblazers up through the mid-90's.
The album art is crappy!
Even the basics like - The lack of contrast between the album title and the background. And the most basic of illustrations - less is less here - not more.
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
My favorite thing about this album is that it reminds me of how brilliant the original still is - I'd rather listen to that.
I'm listening to it right now, this is wonderfull. That is all.
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
The album art is crappy!
Even the basics like - The lack of contrast between the album title and the background. And the most basic of illustrations - less is less here - not more.
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
My favorite thing about this album is that it reminds me of how brilliant the original still is - I'd rather listen to that.
I like the art.
Quote from: mopafeena on June 11, 2006, 01:55:31 AM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
The album art is crappy!
Even the basics like - The lack of contrast between the album title and the background. And the most basic of illustrations - less is less here - not more.
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
My favorite thing about this album is that it reminds me of how brilliant the original still is - I'd rather listen to that.
I like the art.
me too, the back takes the cake, that woman is an awesome touch.
Quote from: CaptainPungent on June 11, 2006, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: mopafeena on June 11, 2006, 01:55:31 AM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
The album art is crappy!
Even the basics like - The lack of contrast between the album title and the background. And the most basic of illustrations - less is less here - not more.
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
My favorite thing about this album is that it reminds me of how brilliant the original still is - I'd rather listen to that.
I like the art.
me too, the back takes the cake, that woman is an awesome touch.
I normally love the Mackie stuff but this is a bit 'eh'. But it doesn't stop the thing from kicking ass.
Quote from: CaptainPungent on June 11, 2006, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: mopafeena on June 11, 2006, 01:55:31 AM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
The album art is crappy!
Even the basics like - The lack of contrast between the album title and the background. And the most basic of illustrations - less is less here - not more.
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
My favorite thing about this album is that it reminds me of how brilliant the original still is - I'd rather listen to that.
I like the art.
me too, the back takes the cake, that woman is an awesome touch.
Totally agreed.
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
I thought it was recorded in a studio (live in the studio) after the All Tomorrow's Parties gig. Hence, no crowd.
Quote from: Eponymous on June 20, 2006, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
I thought it was recorded in a studio (live in the studio) after the All Tomorrow's Parties gig. Hence, no crowd.
Quote from: Buzz... we rented a warehouse in Vernon, just south of LA, set up the gear and rehearsed all afternoon for our
Quote from: rimb_38 on June 20, 2006, 11:31:27 PM
Quote from: Eponymous on June 20, 2006, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
I thought it was recorded in a studio (live in the studio) after the All Tomorrow's Parties gig. Hence, no crowd.
Quote from: Buzz... we rented a warehouse in Vernon, just south of LA, set up the gear and rehearsed all afternoon for our
Quote from: Eponymous on June 21, 2006, 02:35:30 AM
Quote from: rimb_38 on June 20, 2006, 11:31:27 PM
Quote from: Eponymous on June 20, 2006, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
I thought it was recorded in a studio (live in the studio) after the All Tomorrow's Parties gig. Hence, no crowd.
Quote from: Buzz... we rented a warehouse in Vernon, just south of LA, set up the gear and rehearsed all afternoon for our "invitation only" performance that evening.
How many people?
0
No, -1 people were there. That's how popular the Melvins actually are. :(
Quote from: klump on June 21, 2006, 02:40:35 AM
Quote from: Eponymous on June 21, 2006, 02:35:30 AM
Quote from: rimb_38 on June 20, 2006, 11:31:27 PM
Quote from: Eponymous on June 20, 2006, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: idiotboy on June 10, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
As for the album itself - where's the crowd noise? I really like hearing the crowd on their live stuff - adds much to the energy of the performmance.
I thought it was recorded in a studio (live in the studio) after the All Tomorrow's Parties gig. Hence, no crowd.
Quote from: Buzz... we rented a warehouse in Vernon, just south of LA, set up the gear and rehearsed all afternoon for our
hehe, I havent said Jello(?)
Quote from: klump on June 21, 2006, 03:44:41 AM
hehe, I havent said Jello(?)
Actually, I was referring to that huge zero, but nevermind :lol:
http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/36504/Melvins_Houdini_Live_2005_A_Live_History_of_Gluttony_and_
5.7 - it's getting better!
grrrrrr
bitchdorkmedia
What to do? The band could've played more dates, treating fans on this side of the pond to the special rendition of the album. But, instead, they rented a warehouse, set up their equipment, rehearsed, and then recorded the set twice to an "invitation only" crowd. And that's Problem No. 1 with the disc: While it's technically live, it lacks the crowd-fueled energy of a proper concert album. The band is there, playing together, and it's certainly looser than the studio recording, but there is no crowd noise; instead of capturing a freewheeling mood, it just sounds like the band rehearsing in a warehouse-- which is, of course, exactly what it is.
Idiot. If I wanted a live performance with crowd noise I can download that any day of the week or go to a concert. Clearly Buzz's concept was to have a live sound without all the annoying crowd crap.
I think steve has a pretty decent chain of thought going on.
there are a million bootlegged recordings of live shows out there available for download, trade, etc.
what would be the point of putting out an official one besides the fact that this is the houdini album? none.
once again, I think melvins were trying to do something different and slightly unexpected.
I can dig that.
besides... usually when you hear one of those live bootlegs you notice the mic picking up various conversations, some fucking idiot yelling "YOU SUCK!!!" over and over again, etc.
in a way its nice to hear the looseness and energy of live without hearing some chic talking about where her and her friends are going after the show.
Quote from: glen on June 22, 2006, 10:31:21 AM
besides... usually when you hear one of those live bootlegs you notice the mic picking up various conversations, some fucking idiot yelling "YOU SUCK!!!" over and over again, etc.
rehearsel?
that would be a great record!
Buzz: "Hey Crover! try playing in time! Cause if you dont..!"
Dale: "Its not me, its Dunny boy over there thinking were playing jazz or some shit..."
Buzz: "Hey Dunn?!"
Trevor: "Yeah Mack Daddy?"
Buzz: "Are you coming on to me!?"
"akward silence....."
Buzz: "lets call it a night!"
Quote from: Greven on June 22, 2006, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: glen on June 22, 2006, 10:31:21 AM
besides... usually when you hear one of those live bootlegs you notice the mic picking up various conversations, some fucking idiot yelling "YOU SUCK!!!" over and over again, etc.
Quote from: glen on June 22, 2006, 01:00:27 PM
Quote from: Greven on June 22, 2006, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: glen on June 22, 2006, 10:31:21 AM
besides... usually when you hear one of those live bootlegs you notice the mic picking up various conversations, some fucking idiot yelling "YOU SUCK!!!" over and over again, etc.
Quote from: Greven on June 22, 2006, 02:09:27 PM
Glen, how is my post "down-talking"?
Dissagreement sure but not downtalking.
Actually I can't think of a proper live recording where the crowd has distracted the music.
I really wish, if you feel unsure of your statements you wouldn't take it out on me.
Trust me I'm not irritated at all.
Thanks of the appreciation of my band, if that was on a serious note.
:?
I DO like your band greven. I listened to the mp3's on your website. seriously, good stuff.
maybe its me. maybe I take you wrongly. but if I DO take you wrongly I am not the only one.
but you must admit, you have a tendency to be slightly abrasive in your posts.
wether you intend it or not, your posts come across as..... angry and irratated.
I apologize to you if I misread you. maybe I assumed based upon your general persona here. its amazing how an actual personality can be conveyed by simply typing statements.
I like you greven, you help bring some diversity to this board. this is a good thing.
my bad.
but tell me this... have the majority of the people here not commented on the fact that there is absolutely no crowd noise on this disc what-so-ever? answer: yes, they have. therefore they must be saying that because it is abnormal for most live recordings. in other words, in most live recordings you CAN hear crowd noise. unless of course my limited knowledge of this subject is missing the fact that this "crowd noise" is added in mixing or whatever.
Quote from: glen on June 22, 2006, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: Greven on June 22, 2006, 02:09:27 PM
Glen, how is my post "down-talking"?
Dissagreement sure but not downtalking.
Actually I can't think of a proper live recording where the crowd has distracted the music.
I really wish, if you feel unsure of your statements you wouldn't take it out on me.
Trust me I'm not irritated at all.
Thanks of the appreciation of my band, if that was on a serious note.
:?
I DO like your band greven. I listened to the mp3's on your website.
I have thought about this slightly.
I think the best way to describe you would be "unapologetic". and you are correct, why should you be? the point of these places is to express your opinion, not apologize for it.
I was wrong in "jumping your shit". I should not have done that.
and I see your point about individual crowd noise as well.
people can say what they want about you greven, but you ARE articulate. no doubt about it.
Quote from: glen on June 22, 2006, 06:28:30 PM
the point of these places is to express your opinion, not apologize for it.
You hit the nail, couldn't agree with you more.
I disagree, and youre not allowed not to agree! :lol:
Quote from: klump on June 23, 2006, 04:12:20 AM
I disagree, and youre not allowed not to agree!
I'm listening to "DCH" right now, weird artwork by the way, specially the snowman side.
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/Stonergrunge/Stuff/melvins-live_history02.jpg)
he changed others too, heavy betty big bone
becomes heavy metal beach bum on h2005
Anyone else think Trevor's sound/tone is slightly too much in the background on this album? His playing is great. I just think sometimes the bass is buried in the mix(think of ...And Justice For All, but not to that extreme), and his tone is too treble-y, not enough low end(most noticable on the intro to Night Goat). I'm probably going to get shit for saying this, but I couldn't help but notice after hearing some older boots w/ Mark D. & Kevin.(thanks to dudbean) I also should add that his tone/sound on the Zorn release "Moonchild" is outstanding. He should have used that same setup on Houdini Live. I wonder if Buzz/Dale more or less told him how they wanted the bass to sound or else let him come up with it.
I bet you dollars to donuts that Trevor Dunn's contributions were minimal if any.
Quote from: Dudbean on June 23, 2006, 06:49:59 PM
Anyone else think they should have picked a take of Hooch where Buzz got the lyrics right? Oh well...
Yeah, I noticed that too. I wouldn't have realized it if I hadn't been reading along with the lyrics from the original Houdini booklet.
By the way, did anyone notice how the snowman's arm isn't brown or whatever like a stick should be? It's as if it were made of snow too...
Maybe he shoved it up the sacred part of a snowwoman before this picture of him was taken.
The expression in his face tells me it was his first time.
It's funny how we all assumed this would be a live album, while the band never said anything like that, even Patton said in interviews that Ipecac was gonna release a re-recording.
And as for that small battle between Glen and Greven, Glen was actually speaking about bootlegs at first, when the topic suddenly switched to live recordings, and that's quite an essential difference. Just thought I'd bring that up (and stir up another dialogue ;))
Quote from: norecess on July 22, 2006, 03:56:57 AM
It's funny how we all assumed this would be a live album...
Well, the title is "Houdini
live 2005, a
live history of gluttony and lust" :o
Quote from: anaconda on July 22, 2006, 08:34:17 AM
Quote from: norecess on July 22, 2006, 03:56:57 AM
It's funny how we all assumed this would be a live album...
Well, the title is "Houdini live 2005, a live history of gluttony and lust" :o
Alright, it is a live album, by Melvins standards.
We should've known though, that being the Melvins they would
still pull something out of the bag that surprised us. And they did!
A live recording with no audience!! :lol:
This gives every upcoming split a whole new perspective. Maybe that's another reason why there has nothing happened yet with the split with Isis, I really don't see Buzz or Dale doing a split these days.
Oh man, yesterday it was still fucking hot here in Holland and now it's raining cats and dogs, with some brutal thunder every now and then in the background that sounds like rockets are launched. The temperature is still nice though. Perfect almost for watching the last day of the Tour de France!
A bit late but what the hell, right?
This may have already been brought up, but this is my take on Houdini05.
In the same way as Ween's Live by Request, it IS as though one is sitting in on a rehearsal. And how cool is that? It's BITCHIN' COOL, that's how cool. I mean, any of us who live close enough to the venue and have enough cash to buy a ticket can see whatever band live, but NONE of us (assuming none of us are personal friends with the band) could hang out at a rehearsal.
Cool enough for me.
Cheers!
i agree.
sort of.
i definitely like listening to this album a lot. i don't feel like it is a rehearsal, i feel like it is a live show with no audience sound 8) i know that's basically what a rehearsal is, but i hear a difference....
the way the album begins is awesome.
listening to this in the car all the way through on full volume is what made me pick up my bass again and attempt to form a band in vermont.
It's not that weird to hear a live album with no audience. A lot of official Grateful Dead live albums don't feature any crowd noise at all. Although on Live Dead there is one song that does and that's because the performance was so good the audience went apeshit
indeed.
dick's picks are audience free, aren't they?
and they sound great
Frank Black records all of his albums "live" to 4 track. In essence there is very little studio editing as the band is playing live together rather than recording parts separately laying down tracks, then mixing etc. Playing live never requires an audience. I remember reading somewhere there were a few people around during the recordings but probably not what you would consider an audience.
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Quote from: stonerwitch on August 24, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Uhm, get your original Houdini copy and see who's playing bass.
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: stonerwitch on August 24, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Uhm, get your original Houdini copy and see who's playing bass.
Pardon the newbie, but am I missing something here?
Quote from: mhelmo on August 24, 2006, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: stonerwitch on August 24, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Uhm, get your original Houdini copy and see who's playing bass.
Pardon the newbie, but am I missing something here?
Hey, I thought you had been lurking here for many, many, may years? :lol:
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: mhelmo on August 24, 2006, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: stonerwitch on August 24, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Uhm, get your original Houdini copy and see who's playing bass.
Pardon the newbie, but am I missing something here?
Hey, I thought you had been lurking here for many, many, may years?
Quote from: mhelmo on August 24, 2006, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: mhelmo on August 24, 2006, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: stonerwitch on August 24, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Uhm, get your original Houdini copy and see who's playing bass.
Pardon the newbie, but am I missing something here?
Hey, I thought you had been lurking here for many, many, may years? :lol:
Hmmm.... ham sandwich anyone?
Alright, Lorax is credited, but so are Billy Anderson and this guy named Bill Bartell who plays on Goin' Blind. And uhm, I believe there are some people out there who doubt Lorax did anything at all on this album, or did I just read that before I became a Melvins junkie and believed every 'cool' fact I read? Aargh! Anyone?
Quote from: mhelmo on August 24, 2006, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: norecess on August 24, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: stonerwitch on August 24, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
This recording did not grab my goat so to say.Could it have been the absence of Lorax.Dunno.
Uhm, get your original Houdini copy and see who's playing bass.
Pardon the newbie, but am I missing something here?
yeah, it seems like everyone but Lorax played on that record. :lol:
well maybe she played on one or two...
I'm following, I'm following... damn, what a long day at work...
BURN THE NEW GUY!!
i think she was in the photo shoot for back cover thats really about it,
buzz has hinted in interviews that maybe she was there, maybe she wasn't,
maybe she made him coffee, maybe she didn't, maybe she's not even shirley
temple's daughter, maybe she's just a sad recluse who conned buzz for 8 years
and now works as a part time librarian, you can see she likes silence
and not getting caught in her lies by doing any press for the last 16 years,
ya maybe...
Where's that guy who used to date Lorax when you need him?
dating lorax
Quote from: Vcavallo on August 25, 2006, 09:33:08 AM
dating lorax
http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=3926.msg16475#msg16475
What's wrong with me that I I'm such a geek for remembering this kind of stuff. Why don't the brain cells that remember this sort of information starve off when I do whatever it is that causes the dying of brain cells?
that's pretty fucking strange.
wow, i also forgot... thanks for refreshing my memory, marteen!
Quote from: catpenis on October 18, 2006, 09:31:26 AM
i was at this show you can hear me on the cd
what kinda junk are you talking? is that you I hear dropping a pin right before night goat?
Quote from: catpenis on October 18, 2006, 09:50:48 AM
i went to college with buzz and dale so they know me.
:bs: i don't think either of them went to college.
You might want to change your avatar.
that guy is "outta here" :lol:
it wasn't butthole....it was some other idiot that forgot about the "WORK-SAFE IMAGES" policy here.
some idiot that really should have remembered about the policy and set a bad example.
some idiot whose first and last alternate username was "catpenis"
:-#
I think i missed something.
Quote from: Vcavallo on October 18, 2006, 11:40:01 PM
it wasn't butthole....it was some other idiot that forgot about the "WORK-SAFE IMAGES" policy here.
Is that why Brooklyns Finest PoonTang hads to change his/her avatar?
so this catpenis person left because they had a bad username and/or avatar? why didn't he just change his avatar?
I guess I don't see whats wrong with the word 'catpenis'.
I still think butthole was involved. somehow.
What was his avatar of?
a cat's penis
Quote from: anaconda on October 19, 2006, 08:25:14 AM
a cat's penis
hmm, ok. well i guess that makes sense considering his name was cats penis.
butthole wasn't involved, except maybe as a distant inspiration.
thank god butthole didnt have a more precise avatar.
the coolest thing about this live album is the version of PEARL BOMB.
It fucking rocks
Quote from: Leeech on October 26, 2006, 07:00:44 PM
the coolest thing about this live album is the version of PEARL BOMB.
It fucking rocks
agreed 100%
great start to an album, as well. that first sound. ahhh
I been back on this the last few days. I find myself turning it up louder and louder so by the time I get to HAG ME my ears are damn near bleeding.
seems like I said that before.
hag me is such a sweet song too probably my favorite off houdini
Quote from: glen on October 27, 2006, 07:04:30 AM
I been back on this the last few days. I find myself turning it up louder and louder so by the time I get to HAG ME my ears are damn near bleeding.
seems like I said that before.
Really, what is it about such a HEAVY fucking sound that makes a grown man/woman weep? Hag Me is one of the first Melvins songs that made me just tense up and cringe, and really toss my hed back n forth. I had known and loved the Melvins by this point, but this and 'Boris' just made shit my 10th grade pants. I stole your gravity, I damned your heart.
In my humble opinion Hag Me is the heaviest thing the Melvins have ever done. That section towards the end where the song changes and sort of stumbles into the chugging guitar is really one of the finest moments in their 20+ year history. Granted the Melvins have created a lot of heavy atmospheres, but this is THE BEST.....
Quote from: the bloat on December 07, 2006, 11:29:48 AM
That section towards the end where the song changes and sort of stumbles into the chugging guitar is really one of the finest moments in their 20+ year history.
you speak truth beyond truth. how about dale's off beat cymbal during that part? where he alternates beats with it from measure to measure. fucking goosebumps EVERYTIME.
by the way... notice at the beginning of Lizzy you hear that hollow wobbling sound? is this not the exact same sound that ends A Vast Filthy Prison? what is that sound?
I don't want to be blasphemous here, but after listening to ASA continuosly
when I go back to this CD it sounds thin without dual drummers and vocals,
I suppose they will have to do the 3rd version of Houdini very soon with the new
4-pc rock machine, juggernaut of mayhem that is the current beauty of a line-up!
Quote from: anaconda on December 07, 2006, 09:23:21 PM
I don't want to be blasphemous here, but after listening to ASA continuosly
when I go back to this CD it sounds thin without dual drummers and vocals,
I suppose they will have to do the 3rd version of Houdini very soon with the new
4-pc rock machine, juggernaut of mayhem that is the current beauty of a line-up!
I wouldn't consider that blasphemous. I know what your getting at. But Live 05 is heavy in it's own right because it's been re-recorded with newer equipment, newer methods, and so on. And so it just sounds heavier than the original Houdini to me. And it made a few songs ( mostly Sky Pup ) just sound so much better. I'll still spin Houdini, but Live 05 is getting more playtime in my car and home.
As far as a third version with the current line-up......of course I'd buy it. I think Glen said something about anything with the name Melvins branded on it? I'm all over it.
Quote from: Idlehanz on December 08, 2006, 10:54:37 PM
And so it just sounds heavier than the original Houdini to me. And it made a few songs ( mostly Sky Pup ) just sound so much better.
It's also much faster. My favorite improved song on the new Houdini is definitely Spread Eagle Beagle.
Quote from: glen on December 07, 2006, 02:43:38 PMhow about dale's off beat cymbal during that part? where he alternates beats with it from measure to measure. fucking goosebumps EVERYTIME.
I've never noticed that before. That is cool.
Quote from: glen on December 07, 2006, 02:43:38 PMby the way... notice at the beginning of Lizzy you hear that hollow wobbling sound? is this not the exact same sound that ends A Vast Filthy Prison? what is that sound?
I think you're right, glen. Don't know what it is exactly, though.
I dont remember if i saw some topic about this before.But im hearding Newdini all the time here and i dont have the original disc : ( , and i dont know if the original contain venue, date, place ,where the songs were recorded.can you help me with this info?photos are welcome too.thanks !
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/02-21-2007053804PMCustom.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/02-21-2007054139PMCustom.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/02-21-2007054013PMCustom.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/02-21-2007054242PMCustom.jpg)
here you go beto , my good man.
this is all the essentials. if you can't read any of it let me know and I'll blow it up a bit.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/02-21-2007053804PMCustom2.jpg)
this any better?
this is all the information included.
I love you so much Glen.thanks mate!
What, you mean "Newdini" doesnt refer to an upcoming live show where Houdini would be performed in the buff?
Isn't Pearl Bomb's main riff sample from Dead Kennedys' song "Riot"?
Well, they haven't sued the Melvins yet so maybe not.
Wow, never noticed that before. It's certainly veeery similar.
dead kennedys ripped off my sock and then used it as a condom to sodomize me.
I always think of this record as being titled 'Houdini Live', but i keep seeing the 'A Live History Of Gluttony & Lust' bit either added or used instead. Why is that? I've seen some covers of the record have that title and others that don't. People keep refering to it under different names or add the 2005 bit on the end too. Being that im generally very (and i hesitate to use the word) anal about these kind of things, help!!!! :?
I've never seen a version without 'a live history of gluttony and lust'.
These are the only two I'm aware of:
(http://thesickos.free.fr/first_issue.jpg)
(http://thesickos.free.fr/re_issue.jpg)
Was there an earlier version that was used for promotion before
the CD was actually released? Maybe that's the one you're
thinking of?
Why are there two different ones tho? An American one and another for the rest of the world perhaps??
Quote from: anaconda on March 12, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
one for promotion before the CD was actually released? Maybe that's
the one you're thinking of?
Could be yes. Since both covers have Gluttony written on there i guess that is the proper title.
I think there's two versions because it was re-issued.
the second version had the 'houdini live' type added.
Oh, so Lizzy is bout Lisa Marie. Got it now. Thanks everybody.
How great is this album!! One of the very best Melvins records and way more impressive than the already good studio version. I've said this ever since i heard it, but i wish the band would put out live albums like this for ALL their studio records!!
Quote from: ))))(((( on November 25, 2017, 05:49:35 AM
How great is this album!! One of the very best Melvins records and way more impressive than the already good studio version. I've said this ever since i heard it, but i wish the band would put out live albums like this for ALL their studio records!!
yeah, it's great!
Quote from: Chomas on November 26, 2005, 08:46:15 AM
acoustic houdini? umm, no. Can't see how that would work in a million years. I think theres a better chance of Buzz becoming a Catholic priest...
We got 3 songs on Five Legged Dog!!! Only another 10 Houdini ones to go!