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Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: klump on March 25, 2004, 03:55:18 PM
can anyone help me with tabbing the HAT tabs for guitar?
especially Black stooges( i have almost firgured it out) and brain center?
the fool the meddling idiot would also be nice... :)
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Dr. Gonzo on March 25, 2004, 04:56:07 PM
someone please tab the hat songs... and then, mxtabs.net them
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: klump on March 25, 2004, 04:58:19 PM
...or give em to brian :)
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: beee on March 25, 2004, 05:41:35 PM
i think i can tab most of hat, maybe tommorow some songs.
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Anonymous on March 26, 2004, 10:56:30 AM
why put em at mxtabs? this is the best site around, brian deserves the scoop.
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: mobmob on March 29, 2004, 05:37:14 AM
hey - i tabbed dr. geek - it's here: http://www.themelvins.net/tabs/drgeek.txt
maybe i'll do brain center when i've got time spare
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on December 07, 2004, 02:44:19 PM
the one that starts off the album.. and then appears in 2 other songs as well... what do you make of it? Could there possibly be any meanings (other than a cool beat)?

Ah, fuck it... I think I'm just talking out my butt...

but it is kinda wierd that it appears throughout the album. It's real subtle...
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: klump on December 07, 2004, 02:57:44 PM
i think they just did it to be gay :)

its pretty funny :D

"its verry naiceccea!" (Holy Grail)
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Jess on December 08, 2004, 10:16:13 AM
i've thought that it symbolizes how easy the music is for em.  during the keys part of the fool i thought he's saying "isn't this, isn't this simple"  and then the simple drum beat again.

or it could be that they're trying to show progression from easy drumbeats to black stooges to judas chongo to the culmination which is the fool, the meddling idiot.

damn h.a.t. is amazing
Title: I agree
Post by: popeye on December 08, 2004, 11:00:15 AM
Definitely a Masterpiece work.  HAT.  That tour was quite a Show Too!
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Binkard and Friends on December 08, 2004, 02:12:56 PM
its supposed to be a cliche punk drum beat to throw the listener off
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Kurva on December 08, 2004, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: Binkard and Friends
its supposed to be a cliche punk drum beat to throw the listener off


yep
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Kurva on December 08, 2004, 04:17:22 PM
Quote from: anaconda
I think it was just a drum level take, but they liked it so much they kept it

but I also wanna say its totally funny that you should mention
this beat here Brooklyn's Finest... because I took it, sped it up and
reworked it with my friend Tim playing guitar samples and my voice
like about a week ago!!! check it

http://lazerman.netomia.dk/Out_of_Total_Darkness.mp3



conda, why do your tracks always sound like a mess? :)

 :P
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: turnacus on December 09, 2004, 10:53:47 AM
I was walking through richmond virginia, ats where i live and go to school, and i heard this middle school aged black marching band playing the same beat. I told some girl, but she didn't know and didn't care.

What is it with girls and the melvins?
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Ron Maiden on December 10, 2004, 01:09:20 PM
Quote
i heard this middle school aged black marching band playing the same beat.


that's like 50% of the Melvins fan base.


Black Stooges was written as a tribute to a BIG fan club in Atlanta, GA whom the majority were, you guessed it, 13 year old black kids!

 Those Melvins.


[rumor] honest to god! [/rumor]
Title: Strange?
Post by: popeye on December 11, 2004, 10:47:30 AM
Who knows?  the strangest vibe i ever got off a situation like that was back in '92, i had gone to a Bill Clinton "Rally" in Downtown Seattle just a few days before the election .  
  Clinton was spos'd to arrive @ 9 a.m. so we went a little early for some reason, got there after 7:30 and Down at the bottom of the hill ( it was at the north end of the Pike place market - that park with a totem pole and all the streets were closed and full of people, there was easily ten thousand people there  - and down at the bottom of the hill is this high School marching band (Ingraham Rams as i rememberr)
  Playing (very well) "Come as You are" by nirvana.
  That was so weird - But Very very kool!
Title: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: gwiz on December 15, 2004, 09:25:08 AM
Why Not?
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Green Honey on February 01, 2005, 04:29:53 PM
http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=81363&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=Black%20Stooges&i=1

http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=81110&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=Foaming&i=1

http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=86857&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=The%20Anti-vermin%20Seed&i=1

All that's missing now is Little Judas chongo and The Fool....
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: klump on February 01, 2005, 05:15:15 PM
thanks man ;)

though i still think black stooges is played in drop tuning, but its easy to figure it out (just play the same "notes" in drop tuning)

when tuning "the fool", remember the BASS, you think its guitar , but its BASS, hehe  :lol:
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Green Honey on February 01, 2005, 05:24:13 PM
Quote from: klump
thanks man ;)

though i still think black stooges is played in drop tuning, but its easy to figure it out (just play the same "notes" in drop tuning)

when tuning "the fool", remember the BASS, you think its guitar , but its BASS, hehe  :lol:

oh i know it's bass alright!  :)
 as for the tuning on black stooges - there's no low d notes in the whole song, so what makes you think it's in that tuning?
i give you the part after the intro:
e|-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|

it's definatly in e, my tuner agrees  :P
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: klump on February 01, 2005, 05:29:18 PM
hehe, maybe i just want it to be in drop, hehe.
it just flows so good that other riff when i play it in drop :)
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: anaconda on February 01, 2005, 05:40:04 PM
you play in droppings? ewwwwwww!!! :o
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: klump on February 01, 2005, 05:46:33 PM
yeah im feces slinging rhesus monkey :P
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Green Honey on June 06, 2005, 11:48:03 AM
Black Stooges -
http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=81363&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=Black%20Stooges&i=1

Dr. Geek -
http://taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=80998&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=Dr%20Geek&i=1

Little Judas Chongo -
anybody?

The Fool, The Meddling Idiot -
http://taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=96316&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=The%20Fool,%20The%20Meddling%20Idiot&i=1

The Brain Center at Whipples -
http://taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=80967&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=Brain%20Center%20At%20Whipples&i=1

Foaming -
http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=81110&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=Foaming&i=1

The Anti-Vermin Seed -
http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=86857&aid=1461&a=Melvins&t=The%20Anti-vermin%20Seed&i=1
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Green Honey on June 13, 2005, 05:26:08 PM
Anyone feel like tabbing Little Judas Chongo?
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: DubEMC on June 13, 2005, 05:32:14 PM
Feel like sending me discs from 6 months ago?
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: KURDTLUVUR! on June 13, 2005, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: DubEMC
Feel like sending me discs from 6 months ago?


BURN!!

 :lol:
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Green Honey on June 13, 2005, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: DubEMC
Feel like sending me discs from 6 months ago?

sure do. just finished the 3rd one today, will deliver tomorrow!!

sorry :oops:  :oops:
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: DubEMC on June 13, 2005, 06:43:41 PM
Thanks Ben! Sorry to be a wanker!
Title: HAT tabs?
Post by: Green Honey on June 15, 2005, 07:04:57 AM
Its me whos the wanker, old china! But I am pleased to announce that your package is in the post as I type - finally. :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 20, 2005, 11:59:38 PM
hat was recorded on 8 tracks.  impressive.  not too tough for the white stripes, but the melvins weren't even a three piece.  they had dss and a. jones on a lot of it.  the anti-vermin seed on 8 tracks!  recording dale's kit alone would have most engineers using 8 tracks.  toshi is a talented fellow.   that record sounds like a million bucks.
Title: Re: 8 track hat
Post by: Moebius05 on July 21, 2005, 02:54:08 AM
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford
hat was recorded on 8 tracks.  impressive.  not too tough for the white stripes, but the melvins weren't even a three piece.  they had dss and a. jones on a lot of it.  the anti-vermin seed on 8 tracks!  recording dale's kit alone would have most engineers using 8 tracks.  toshi is a talented fellow.   that record sounds like a million bucks.



1: Who says it was recorded on 8 tracks?

Still they might have recorded the drums with 8 mics and then mixed them down to 4 and thereby freeing up space for gass, keys, guitars and percussion and then further reduced them to free up space for vocals. But perhaps they only recorded not more then eight tracks at a time (=8 mics for the drumkit), like I do, I record with an 8 track soundcard direct to harddisk.
Title: Re: 8 track hat
Post by: Vcavallo on July 21, 2005, 07:40:15 AM
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford
that record sounds like a million bucks.


 :arrow: (i agree)
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: klump on July 21, 2005, 08:06:01 AM
Buzz has said it was recorded on 8 eight tracks.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Tyuge on July 21, 2005, 08:45:19 AM
i believe it
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Galvano on July 21, 2005, 09:19:04 AM
I don't doubt they recorded it with 8 tracks.
Like Moebius05 said, they dumped the drum tracks but I would guess down to only 2 channels, as in stereo. And I'm guessing they didn't use more than 3 or 4 mics at the most on the drumkit, it's got that primitive sound. Then you have 6 more channels to play with, it's a common and greatly used technique.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Joe Deutrom on July 21, 2005, 09:50:03 AM
Yeah. Its called "bouncing" or "ping ponging" and it is a common technique.  
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 21, 2005, 10:10:25 AM
i'm an engineer (an out of work one) so i know what bouncing and shit is.  i doubt that they used 3 or 4 mics on his kit.  at least a kick, a couple of overheads, one for each tom, snare, and possibly a hi-hat.  there's not too much room sound on most of the record so they probably just closed mic'd.  i'm not saying it's really that hard, i was just a little surprised to learn this bit of info.  
yeah galvano, buzz said it in one of the articles on the old board.  brian put them back up.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Vcavallo on July 21, 2005, 01:39:14 PM
he's got a really great drum sound on that record.  very alive and tight.  

what's with the mercenary number?  i called it cuz i need someone offed and i got the operator.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Galvano on July 21, 2005, 02:38:46 PM
Not much room sound, are we still talking about H.A.T?
I'm not gonna say for sure that they aren't using close mic's to balance with (of course they got a kick mic) ,but the room is so obvious in this recording.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: klump on July 21, 2005, 04:32:36 PM
my band is gonna record soon , were gonna record it digital (I prefer analog stuff, but this is what we can afford) does anyone of you know some good schematics for mic placement for drums?

I have seen a lot of them, but I just want to know if you guys have any good tips :) and since all of you have good music taste you maybe know what I want.

(I dont play the drums, but I think they are essential)
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: rhett E rock on July 21, 2005, 06:42:47 PM
i believe it.  a lot of their demos and live stuff are recorded just off two tracks and they sound good.  fucking magicians.  or maybe they're just liars!!!
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Vcavallo on July 21, 2005, 07:37:57 PM
probably a little of both.  i'd say the percentage is 75% 65%
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 21, 2005, 07:51:18 PM
Quote from: Galvano
Not much room sound, are we still talking about H.A.T?
I'm not gonna say for sure that they aren't using close mic's to balance with (of course they got a kick mic) ,but the room is so obvious in this recording.


i'm saying as compared to say skweetis, which is my all-time favorite drum sound ever.  i'm sure toshi did use rooms as it is essential for a big drum sound, but on hat dale's drums seem to be less roomy than on previous records.  that just means even more mics which makes 8 tracks more impressive.  and the drums are most definitely mic'd up seperately.  the toms and snare are so crisp that overheads and rooms just couldn't pick that up by themselves.  also his hi hat work is so clear that it had to be mic'd too.

klump- the placement i use most is usually a d112 inside the kick pointed at the beater and sometimes something like a RE20 outside pointed at the head.  the one on the outside gives more of a woofy sound and the inside has more clickiness or attack.  then 421's for all toms.  placement is key in micing up drums to prevent leakage into other mics.  a shure 57 on the top of the snare.  some guys use one on the bottom as well to get more sizzle.  if you do that be sure to flip the phase to prevent cancellation.  overheads i usually go with one over the right shoulder aimed at the floor tom/ride cymbal side of the kit with enough room for the drummer to swing his arms.  on his left side i try to pick up the hi hat cuz i'm not too fond of micing it on it's own.  be sure that the overheads are the same distance away from the snare as to prevent phase cancellation.   for rooms it really depends on the room.  have your drummer play and you walk around to see where it sounds best.  there are no set rules for micing drums.  i've gotten great sounds with one overhead and a kick mic.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 21, 2005, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: Vcavallo
what's with the mercenary number?  i called it cuz i need someone offed and i got the operator.


 :lol: it spells out THE-MEL-VINS
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Vcavallo on July 21, 2005, 11:02:44 PM
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford


 :lol: it spells out THE-MEL-VINS


oh you dog!!  that's great.  i wish i sleuthed that out for mesself.

it's a good thing it wasn't a real number.  i would have asked the person on the phone to kill someone for me, and i am pretty sure that's illegal.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Galvano on July 22, 2005, 04:01:59 AM
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford


i'm saying as compared to say skweetis, which is my all-time favorite drum sound ever.  i'm sure toshi did use rooms as it is essential for a big drum sound, but on hat dale's drums seem to be less roomy than on previous records.  that just means even more mics which makes 8 tracks more impressive.  and the drums are most definitely mic'd up seperately.  the toms and snare are so crisp that overheads and rooms just couldn't pick that up by themselves.  also his hi hat work is so clear that it had to be mic'd too.


Well comparing Skweetis and any H.A.T song you would notice that on H.A.T, the drums are in a much smaller room, therefor the smaller and more compact sound but it's still the room mics that are working their asses off on this recording.It's not wether or not to use the room sound but what type of room you are using. Toms and snares and hihat can be that crisp with overheads I do it all the time and just adding an ambience mic (and I'm certain if they close mic'd everything, it's just to balance the roomsound slightly).
I'm surpriced we see this drum recording so differently.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Galvano on July 22, 2005, 04:14:26 AM
Klump, I'd start with a pair of overheads positioned xy over the drummers head and an ambience mic and a kick mic placed at the hole.
Worry about close mic'ing if you find the sound to be too thin.
Will you be using an engineer or are you doing this on your own?
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 22, 2005, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: Galvano

I'm surpriced we see this drum recording so differently.


that's why i love the art of recording.  it's all so subjective.  
i agree that it's a smaller room and therefore less "bigness" to the sound.  buzz said in that same interview that hook is a small studio.  also dale is using his gretsch kit on the album (i think) and they lend a completely different sound to the record.
after starting this thread i sat down and listened to hat with a pair of trusty headphones and there is roominess to it, though a bit understated to these ears.
Title: 8 track hat
Post by: luciano darkage on July 31, 2005, 01:12:01 AM
the choice and use of fx over buzzs voice in the fool the meddling idiot are nothing short of genius,  the way it "sucks in" on the pre in every line in the first verse sounds so dramatic,

im surprised the whole album was produced soley (souly) on an 8trak

this toshi kasai deserves a nobel prize and/or 1000 ladies of virtue true if so
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Shanghai Satellite on September 02, 2005, 07:57:03 PM
Just wondering what fellow Melvins fans think of this album. I absolutely love it. They were on fire on the tour, I'm really glad I got to see Kevin Rutmanis play live. He was a madman live.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: anaconda on September 02, 2005, 08:08:34 PM
It's Top 3 for me, with Stag and Bullhead next
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Kessel on September 02, 2005, 08:26:15 PM
it is a good album

to be honest rutmanis is good, but he isn't that good..... it's better that crover plays.... i love him

cough cough sorry no follow up, im too drunk
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: lord of heaviness on September 02, 2005, 08:27:43 PM
What's not to like about this album? One of my favorite releases by them.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: jeremy on September 02, 2005, 08:28:56 PM
Its great, I enjoy it often.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Shanghai Satellite on September 02, 2005, 09:05:51 PM
It'd be cool for them to do more songs like "anti - vermin seed". That song is so fucking good. they've done long, weird songs here and there for some time though. The first to come to my mind would be spread eagle beagle off of houdini, which actually has Kurt Cobain playing some percussion.

    BTW, very glad to be a member of the board.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: lord of heaviness on September 02, 2005, 10:19:07 PM
Welcome Aboard!!
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: blipntime on September 02, 2005, 11:28:32 PM
they sound pretty wimpy on that album.
especially dr. geek. like they dont want to wake up the neighbors.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Shanghai Satellite on September 02, 2005, 11:43:37 PM
Quote from: lord of heaviness
Welcome Aboard!!


      Thank you.



      I feel ya blip. Some of the older stuff just can't be matched. I still love Ipecac era Melvins though. Pigs of the Roman Empire is not as good as H.A.T. imo. But the title track can stand up to H.A.T for sure. It sounds like it couldv'e been on H.A.T. Great stuff.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: AlmightyRetard on September 03, 2005, 07:57:21 AM
Yeah, one of my favourites. Little Judas Chongo kicks me in the nuts everytime
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Tyuge on September 03, 2005, 08:04:36 AM
HAT is very good. Kevin's playing is awsome. I love the slide bass during the verse parts on "Black Stooges"
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Reverend Ebeneezer on September 03, 2005, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: boller1

cough cough sorry no follow up, im too drunk


Weren't you boasting about how happy you were to be 'drug free' in the New Orleans thread? Oh, yeah, sorry...alcohol's not a drug! Alcohol puts you into an altered state of mind while drugs put...you...into...erm...

Yeah.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Kessel on September 03, 2005, 09:03:10 AM
Reverend, I actually said that i thought being clean was the best drug.... i never said I don't use others


Sorry to confuse... just angers me why he wants every to be drug-taking "insane people"

its perfectly okay to not take drugs? isn't it?
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Fantomastro on September 03, 2005, 09:20:29 AM
yeah hat is awsome.
I like it how the melvins going to get more and more experimental and doing electronical things like in the fool, the meddling idiot. it fits so perfect in melvins songs.
I hope they will doing more electronical :)

btw: welcome on board!
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Shanghai Satellite on September 03, 2005, 03:54:17 PM
Thanks Fantom. And yes, hopefully they will continue to incorporate electronic stuff more often. I also love how for a long time now they have been leaning towards an experimental tip.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: anaconda on September 03, 2005, 04:23:53 PM
i admire the reverend's accuity for minute details from other threads, uncanny mate! bravo and cheers, for its all in the details so it goes..
indeed
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: BlueBob on September 03, 2005, 05:41:33 PM
The live Hat tour/era was one of the melvins best.
I'm listening to Yello - "Oh Yeah"  chik, chikachikaaaaahhhhhhh
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: jeremy on September 03, 2005, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: AlmightyRetard
Yeah, one of my favourites. Little Judas Chongo kicks me in the nuts everytime


I agree mean, it sounds huge.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Vcavallo on September 04, 2005, 01:07:38 AM
Quote from: blipntime
they sound pretty wimpy on that album.
especially dr. geek. like they dont want to wake up the neighbors.


so far from what i've gathered from your posts here, you don't like a single melvins album....what are you doing here again?

and yes.  the experimentation is fantastic
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: blipntime on September 04, 2005, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: Vcavallo
Quote from: blipntime
they sound pretty wimpy on that album.
especially dr. geek. like they dont want to wake up the neighbors.


so far from what i've gathered from your posts here, you don't like a single melvins album....what are you doing here again?

and yes.  the experimentation is fantastic


my favorite melvins albums are as follows:
1. bullhead
2. lysol
3. stag
4. stoner witch
5. the bootlicker
6. houdini
7. the maggot
8. honky
9. ozma
10. eggnog
11. 10 songs
12. gluey porch treatments

and i really love their songs off of deep six. i notice nobody mentions those much. blessing the operation is awesome.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Vcavallo on September 04, 2005, 02:05:27 PM
i agree about bootlicker being towards the top.  it's underrated among fans, methinks.  i'm surprised you've got eggnog so low.  is it the length that bothers you?  i find the sound and the songs to be phenomenal.  especially the sound
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: blipntime on September 04, 2005, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: Vcavallo
i agree about bootlicker being towards the top.  it's underrated among fans, methinks.  i'm surprised you've got eggnog so low.  is it the length that bothers you?  i find the sound and the songs to be phenomenal.  especially the sound


i dont know. i got that one around ten years ago and i used to listen to it a lot on headphones. its got a really kind of lo fi quality to it that sounds incongruous to me, compared to their other stuff. i prefer their versions of those songs live. i guess i think of it more as an ep and its hard to rank it with full bodies of work.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on September 04, 2005, 07:27:32 PM
I just put on HAT a few days ago. I played it to death when it first came out & loved it every time... now it seems to have lost some of its punch. Stylistically all over the place, like Stag. Not bad, but not fantastically good either.

Lysol is the one that gets me every time.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Pelican on September 04, 2005, 10:01:09 PM
HAT may be my favorite album, I guess that changes from week to week, but I never ever grow tired of any part of it. For me, it seems that HAT more than any other seems like one big piece of work. Like, every song flows into the next, and sounds good next to each other. Well, I guess they have other stuff like that too, but HAT just seems to flow really well. The Maggot is like that too.

But, sometimes I like to hear the more off the wall albums too.

For me, "The Fool, The Meddling Idiot" is one of my favorite songs of all time. Not just my favorite Melvins song, but one of my favorite songs period. I love that track.

And, I think it's the album that Kevin sounds best on too, the bass really stands out. Really going to miss seeing him on stage with them.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Shanghai Satellite on September 05, 2005, 06:19:25 PM
Yeah, Kevin adds a lot to H.A.T
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: turnacus on September 05, 2005, 07:45:26 PM
My favorite melvins album, though I feel Pigs is coming up close behind.

Obivously it doesnt rock like their older stuff, but its just as good if not better. Its weirder.

And yeha, kevin adds a shitload. How is any bassist ever gonna cover.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: KURDTLUVUR! on September 05, 2005, 07:46:50 PM
Quote from: anaconda
i admire the reverend's accuity for minute details from other threads, uncanny mate! Love and cheers, for its all in the details so it goes..
indeed


(http://www.bellsnwhistles.com/alov/1va001.gif)

 :o  :D  :P
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: TosT on September 06, 2005, 09:17:10 AM
fantastic album. "the fool..." is pure bliss.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Dr Geek on September 07, 2005, 02:19:35 PM
This is my favourite Melvins album, I love everything about it. The production sounds great, all the songs flow together, the slide bass adds this crazy element that I just love.
Title: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Dr Geek on September 07, 2005, 02:20:07 PM
This is my favourite Melvins album, I love everything about it. The production sounds great, all the songs flow together, the slide bass adds this crazy element that I just love.
Title: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mitk016 on March 05, 2006, 09:53:02 AM
this is my first post as a new member. i have only recently become a fan of the melvins, due to some proselytizing by one of their hardcore fans. but i really love everything that i've heard, particularly eggnog, bullhead, colossus of destiny, and hostile ambient takeover. i write now because i want to tap this forum as a resource. i am writing a scholarly paper on hostile ambient takeover for a class in the analysis of popular music. what i need is any information related to this album. that is, production info, lyrics (i have already perused the lyrics page on this site, but i thought i might spark other members' interest), possible live recordings, transcriptions (if any), art info, and basically anything else about this album that ya'll can think of. if i can write a good paper, it might get published and open up a new venue for the well deserved appreciation of the melvins.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: FartLips on March 05, 2006, 10:26:19 AM
you said "hostile ambient takeover" and "popular music" in the same sentence?  thats stretching it a bit.  just write on a big piece of paper "fuck you, melvins rule" and recite as loudly as you can everywhere you go. :D
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: CaptainPungent on March 05, 2006, 01:22:54 PM
girls + melvins = instant boner.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: KURDTLUVUR! on March 05, 2006, 02:00:34 PM
girls + melvins = instant boner.
I've just found my Thesis Statement!  Thank you, Cap'n Pungent!
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: glen on March 05, 2006, 04:34:31 PM
hey mitk,  I think I can help you.  check your personal messages.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: CaptainPungent on March 05, 2006, 05:42:14 PM
girls + melvins = instant boner.
I've just found my Thesis Statement!  Thank you, Cap'n Pungent!
haha, it so didn't go to the right thread.
oh well, put it in!
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: TGH on March 05, 2006, 07:27:14 PM
Here's some facts I found about H.A.T don't bother looking for sources, because I heard these all from Buzzo himself while I was smoking opium with him:

- Buzz doesn't really sing at all on it, Kevin does.
- Dale has sick while recording "The Fool, The Meddling Idiot" so they used a drum machine
- The whole album was recorded and mixed in two hours
- The Original title was going to be "Hog's Smelt"
- David Scott Stone never really did anything, either. Buzz just lost a bet to him, so he had to credit him for some stuff

THESE ALL TRUE!
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: glen on March 06, 2006, 05:19:18 AM

- The Original title was going to be "Hog's Smelt"


is that "hog's melt"  or "hog smelt"?
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: ground-meat on March 06, 2006, 09:59:12 AM

- The Original title was going to be "Hog's Smelt"


is that "hog's melt"  or "hog smelt"?

I believe it Hog's Smelt, as in the Smelting of Hogs. It's an annual summer time white-trash fair type thing in Aberdeen where they get a bunch of hogs and smelts them. IT's sickeningly violent thing to do to hogs (or any other animal for that matter) but I am told buzzo quite enjoys it. Basically they pump a live hog full of ultra-high pressure water and superheated coke (as in coal) until it explodes in tasty pre-barbecued chunks. Delicious but disgusting. Buzzo is a sick fuck.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: Andy on March 06, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
It's an annual summer time white-trash fair type thing in Aberdeen where they get a bunch of hogs and smelts them. IT's sickeningly violent thing to do to hogs (or any other animal for that matter) but I am told buzzo quite enjoys it.

This is also where Billy Anderson got the name of his popular band Smelting the Hogs from.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: brian on March 07, 2006, 05:54:07 PM
It's an annual summer time white-trash fair type thing in Aberdeen where they get a bunch of hogs and smelts them. IT's sickeningly violent thing to do to hogs (or any other animal for that matter) but I am told buzzo quite enjoys it.

This is also where Billy Anderson got the name of his popular band Smelting the Hogs from.

not sure if you're kidding or not, but the name of his band is blessing the hogs
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mitk016 on March 07, 2006, 06:05:20 PM
hey guys, i had to put together a proposal for this project for a professor who has never heard the melvins. here it is. just wanted to keep this thread updated on my goings on.

Microcosm: Intertextual Relations in the Melvins
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: anaconda on March 07, 2006, 06:14:54 PM
Your vernacular seems very vociferous, but we need to feel
you really being jocular and jocund, make it 'mutable' as you
said. constructive criticism
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: ManWithNoName on March 07, 2006, 06:37:08 PM
Your vernacular seems very vociferous, but we need to feel
you really being jocular and jocund, make it 'mutable' as you
said. constructive criticism

I don't know if it's just because I'm stoned, but this is hilarious.

In the words of the wise marteen "If I would have taken part at this karma thing, I would have applaud you for this remark."

Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: rimb on March 07, 2006, 07:00:28 PM
I think Buzz & Dale may enjoy reading this.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: KURDTLUVUR! on March 07, 2006, 07:15:27 PM
Your vernacular seems very vociferous, but we need to feel
you really being jocular and jocund, make it 'mutable' as you
said. constructive criticism

 :lol:

It's important to appear erudite in these 'intellectual papers'... that being said,
it reminds me of a trick I used to use in some english papers:  Stick in a few 'big words',
pull the rest out of your ass, and voila, the teacher (assuming they're sub-par) will likely be impressed.

Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: anaconda on March 07, 2006, 07:26:20 PM
and brevity! words are precious, thats why i use very few of
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mitk016 on March 07, 2006, 08:36:07 PM
and brevity! words are precious, thats why i use very few of

i had to spin out 500 words to convince the prof to let me do the project. and she's real fine at spotting bullshit. anyway, there's so much to talk about. i mean, how do you describe the almighty melvins to a woman who publishes scholarly papers on hip hop? i don't know if i can cram the entire album into 25 pages for the final project! words about music, very tricky...
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: Vcavallo on March 07, 2006, 08:36:43 PM
- The whole album was recorded and mixed in two hours
THESE ALL TRUE!

get it right.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: Vcavallo on March 07, 2006, 08:44:37 PM
seriously though, you proposal sounds excellent. 
i wrote a very short paper on the melvins.  it's a really hard thing to do, especially when much of some of their albums' appeal comes from the visceral experience and bodily enjoyment of such a sound.  the difficulty is compounded when other's don't appreciate the same sort of experience. 
anyway, i am really looking forward to the final product.  if i come across any information i will be sure to hurry it along to you.  i've been interested in a real theoretical [haha, "real theoretical"] criticism of the melvins' music but such approaches aren't to be found.  anywhere.
i think it would be entirely possible to get a copy to buzz and co. after you finish. which i think should be mandatory.  not to make you feel nervous or anything....
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: rimb on March 07, 2006, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: Frank Zappa
Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mopafeena on March 07, 2006, 09:27:33 PM
Quote from: Frank Zappa
Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.

haha. nice and appropriate quote rimb!
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: anaconda on March 07, 2006, 10:30:36 PM
which brings me to this one, have you overheard someone say
i just saw the new song by such and such? it should be heard!
i don't care if you saw the video, you heard the new song! you didn't
see the song. theres a difference.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mopafeena on March 07, 2006, 10:33:24 PM
which brings me to this one, have you overheard someone say
i just saw the new song by such and such? it should be heard!
i don't care if you saw the video, you heard the new song! you didn't
see the song. theres a difference.

hmm, depends on the drugs. maybe sometimes you could 'see' the song.

haha, sorry i'm just being an idiot.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mitk016 on March 08, 2006, 07:49:09 AM
seriously though, you proposal sounds excellent. 
i wrote a very short paper on the melvins.  it's a really hard thing to do, especially when much of some of their albums' appeal comes from the visceral experience and bodily enjoyment of such a sound.  the difficulty is compounded when other's don't appreciate the same sort of experience. 
anyway, i am really looking forward to the final product.  if i come across any information i will be sure to hurry it along to you.  i've been interested in a real theoretical [haha, "real theoretical"] criticism of the melvins' music but such approaches aren't to be found.  anywhere.
i think it would be entirely possible to get a copy to buzz and co. after you finish. which i think should be mandatory.  not to make you feel nervous or anything....

actually, i am a little nervous. i want to represent the melvins in the most real way possible. but i have the constraints of academia breathing down my neck. i mean, WTF. how can you translate the melvins into words?
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: glen on March 08, 2006, 09:28:07 AM
hey eric,  I'm working on getting that shit to you.  theres so  much it takes awhile to get mailed.
I'll get it there today. I have to zip it in a file or something. 
hang in there.   patience.
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: klump on March 08, 2006, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: Frank Zappa
Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.

I was just about to say the same thing.
but it can be very tempting...but who cares?

just write about something your teacher loves, and get a good grade.
Ive had to learn this a few times myself... and I still havent understood it myself...
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: mitk016 on March 08, 2006, 11:03:28 AM
hey eric,
Title: Re: hostile ambient takeover project
Post by: glen on March 08, 2006, 05:28:15 PM
which brings me to this one, have you overheard someone say
i just saw the new song by such and such? it should be heard!
i don't care if you saw the video, you heard the new song! you didn't
see the song. theres a difference.

how about when someone says:  "let me see that?" and puts their hand out.  my response is:  "do you see with your hands?    no?   THEN PUT YOUR FUCKING HAND DOWN!!"

man,  I need to chill.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Vcavallo on October 22, 2006, 03:03:38 PM
i've thought that it symbolizes how easy the music is for em.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: seas of luck on October 22, 2006, 06:53:21 PM
I like the beat.  It's a lot of fun to play on drums.  For about 3 months it'd always be the first thing I play when I started playing drums.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Michael Jordan on October 22, 2006, 07:10:37 PM
yeah, it's a really simple beat to play on drums and realy easy and fun to improvise on, as dale does on live shows. however notice that that beat at the begining of HAT and the beat at the end of The fool are slightly different.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Vcavallo on October 22, 2006, 07:11:29 PM
I like the beat.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 22, 2006, 07:13:07 PM
i've thought that it symbolizes how easy the music is for em.  during the keys part of the fool i thought he's saying "isn't this, isn't this simple"  and then the simple drum beat again.

or it could be that they're trying to show progression from easy drumbeats to black stooges to judas chongo to the culmination which is the fool, the meddling idiot.

damn h.a.t. is amazing


i never saw this. 
i like it


 :o   that was me
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Vcavallo on October 22, 2006, 07:34:59 PM
haha!
i had no idea.

also, sort of off-topic:  when people change their avatars, i completely lose any sense of their personality.  i might really like someone, then they change their avatar and say one thing that annoys me and i forget who they were and start to hate them.  funny.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: FartLips on October 22, 2006, 08:39:41 PM
i use isabella for warmups
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on October 23, 2006, 07:41:48 AM
Dale played this same drum riff many times during the Melvins recent tour in Hoboken, but he never played it in Brooklyn. Weird. Such a signature sound for him. I can't believe this thread has been resurected.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Metalhead Cow on October 24, 2006, 01:23:32 PM
the one that starts off the album.. and then appears in 2 other songs as well... what do you make of it? Could there possibly be any meanings (other than a cool beat)?

Ah, fuck it... I think I'm just talking out my butt...

but it is kinda wierd that it appears throughout the album. It's real subtle...

Wait.. It's in the intro to Black Stooges and The Fool, The Meddling Idiot... where else?
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Kessel on October 25, 2006, 05:30:40 PM
Yeah, i didn't notice any other either.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Dr Geek on October 26, 2006, 02:07:04 PM
It doesn't sound like a stereotypical punk beat to me, it just sounds like a simple Dale Crover beat.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: meanclown on October 26, 2006, 02:22:25 PM
i always thought of "Black Stooges" as a band name parody-morph of The Stooges & Black Sabbath!
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: norecess on October 26, 2006, 03:28:42 PM
i always thought of "Black Stooges" as a band name parody-morph of The Stooges & Black Sabbath!

Me too, somehow I think we all do, a little.
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Vcavallo on October 26, 2006, 04:30:41 PM
i always thought of "Black Stooges" as a band name parody-morph of The Stooges & Black Sabbath!

Me too, somehow I think we all do, a little.

((((that's because you're stoned....))))  :wink:
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: norecess on October 26, 2006, 04:37:07 PM
i always thought of "Black Stooges" as a band name parody-morph of The Stooges & Black Sabbath!

Me too, somehow I think we all do, a little.

((((that's because you're stoned....))))  :wink:

Haha, I don't really try reveal it, do I? When I'm on board while I'm smoking, I always feel I leave a trail of confusion. Shit, I have missed Frasier on tv.

But come one, never ever thought of the combination Sabbath and The Stooges?
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Vcavallo on October 26, 2006, 05:22:02 PM
personally i never made that connection.
and: i feel the same way when i am on the board high.  i always feel like i am making very little sense or that i am making it very obvious. 
you weren't making it obvious....you had just included a " :toke: " in the "free weed" thread, and then i saw that you wrote on a bunch of other threads and when i took that emoticon into consideration while reading them all....it all just sorta seemed to make sense.
 :cheers:


 [-X
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: klump on October 26, 2006, 08:03:02 PM
i always thought of "Black Stooges" as a band name parody-morph of The Stooges & Black Sabbath!

Me too, somehow I think we all do, a little.

((((that's because you're stoned....))))
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: Vcavallo on October 26, 2006, 09:50:27 PM
I thought of that too, and I dont smoke dope

just think of all the wild things you'd think if you did!

...well i suppose if you could imagine them now you wouldn't need to..
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: FartLips on October 26, 2006, 09:54:41 PM
what a pusher!
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: mopafeena on October 26, 2006, 11:20:54 PM
peer pressure
Title: Re: Dale's recurring drum riff in HAT
Post by: seas of luck on October 26, 2006, 11:25:44 PM
i always thought of "Black Stooges" as a band name parody-morph of The Stooges & Black Sabbath!

Me too, somehow I think we all do, a little.

((((that's because you're stoned....))))
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Dr. Grimes on May 11, 2007, 02:57:59 PM
I just bought this recently, and I've only gave it a spin once. It's really weird, threw some really unexpected stuff at me, and to be honest, I wasn't overly impressed. It definitely sounds like a grower to me though; I didn't like Stag the first few times. 'Tis the curious way of the Melvins.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: ManWithNoName on May 11, 2007, 09:27:40 PM
HAT is definitely a grower but goddamn once it grows on you it's so satisfying to listen to.

It's so dirty yet so beautiful.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: al27 on November 20, 2007, 12:03:11 PM
I just got HAT (finally, I know).

I do like it, but its weird, because this is the first one that I feel like describing as "just another Melvins album."

Which seems odd since the Melvins don't really have a history of repeating themselves, and the one thing I've always loved about them is that all their albums are very unique from each other while still sounding like the Melvins.

So HAT doesn't necessarily SOUND like another Melvins album, perhaps its just how I imagine the average Melvins album to sound even though they never really put out an average album.

It is a good album though, just seems... unremarkable... to me?

I do wish the production was a little heavier.

-al27
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: rictus on November 20, 2007, 12:10:50 PM
^ Crazy person. :-s
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: glen on November 20, 2007, 12:19:32 PM
^ Crazy person. :-s

I hate to pick on opinions BUT,     yep, crazy person.

Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: al27 on November 22, 2007, 01:12:26 PM
Believe me, I'm just as confused with my reaction to HAT too.

I hear it and I think "standard post-Atlantic Melvins album" even though NOTHING the Melvins have EVER DONE was STANDARD ANYTHING!

-al27
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: (the) Razor on November 23, 2007, 04:07:26 AM
HAT is  a weird album. The first time you listen to it it's like..."huh? Is that all?"

But after a while, someone here described it best, you realise it's like the dessert of Melvins albums.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: al27 on November 28, 2007, 09:15:20 PM
I listened to it a few more times and I find I am liking it more.

One thing I did notice is how prominent Mr. Rutmantis's bass is on this one (as opposed to, say, The Maggot, where he just seems to follow Buzz's guitar around... not that its a bad thing when the album KICKS THAT HARD!!!!). 

Its nice to hear him more.

-al27
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: anaconda on November 28, 2007, 09:19:40 PM
oh really? capt obvious. HAT is the best mid-to-late period album they ever recorded,
HAT era had the best tours as well. The only slip was the message saved bunk, and rutmanis
getting down with mr brownstone.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on November 29, 2007, 12:11:00 AM
oh really? capt obvious. HAT is the best mid-to-late period album they ever recorded,
HAT era had the best tours as well. The only slip was the message saved bunk, and rutmanis
getting down with mr brownstone.
rutmanis and brownstone?  I heard it was jenkem.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: glen on November 29, 2007, 10:37:21 AM
not to beat a deadhorse here.... but hey, at least it ain't kurt cobain I'm talking about,  BUT:

I still ain't convinced mr. brownstone was involved.  my opinion circles more around the alcohol issue.

but regarless, HAT IS a beautiful thing.        no offense but in a bass battle-royal between kev and jared my money goes all-in on KEV.       there is just so much more style there.  jared is more of a note man.  kev is(was) all over the place.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: rictus on November 29, 2007, 10:45:07 AM
HAT IS a beautiful thing.        no offense but in a bass battle-royal between kev and jared my money goes all-in on KEV.       there is just so much more style there.  jared is more of a note man.  kev is(was) all over the place.

Agreed. Jared's more of a guitar player with a bass. Not that there's anything wrong with that, Kevin's
just more versatile. And yes his bass playing is what makes HAT for me my favorite Melvins album.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Justafilthylurker on November 29, 2007, 01:12:26 PM
I listened to it a few more times and I find I am liking it more.

One thing I did notice is how prominent Mr. Rutmantis's bass is on this one (as opposed to, say, The Maggot, where he just seems to follow Buzz's guitar around... not that its a bad thing when the album KICKS THAT HARD!!!!). 

Its nice to hear him more.

-al27

A lot of the stuff that sounds like guitar on the Maggot is actually Kevin's bass.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: al27 on November 29, 2007, 03:31:16 PM
oh really? capt obvious. HAT is the best mid-to-late period album they ever recorded,
HAT era had the best tours as well. The only slip was the message saved bunk, and rutmanis
getting down with mr brownstone.

I, uh, apologise for voicing my opinion? :(

-al27
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Uncle Fester on September 21, 2008, 12:42:47 PM
dont worry about him. you see.... hes my...BROTHER.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Eye in Triangle on October 01, 2008, 02:55:19 PM
I listened to it a few more times and I find I am liking it more.

One thing I did notice is how prominent Mr. Rutmantis's bass is on this one (as opposed to, say, The Maggot, where he just seems to follow Buzz's guitar around... not that its a bad thing when the album KICKS THAT HARD!!!!). 

Its nice to hear him more.

-al27

A lot of the stuff that sounds like guitar on the Maggot is actually Kevin's bass.

They're both men of considerable talent I think, they both bring their own unique dynamic to the outfit. Jared's got the skill man, although I wish he was mixed a little more distinctly from the guitar on ASA and NWB sometimes, like Rutmanis used to be.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: PrickHonky on August 31, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
I really love this album and would love to see some live shows from this tour.  Dr. Geek is one of my favorite tunes on the disc; I love that surf guitar tone Buzz uses
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Conor on May 10, 2010, 06:27:24 PM
Listening to this tonight for the first time in a very long time. Man Little Judas Chongo is blowing my mind. This is a great album. I'm too young!
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: gesundheit on May 11, 2010, 11:12:45 AM
Even with all the acclaim, Little Judas Chongo deserves much more. The sounds in that song are unmatched. A true Melvins (with Kev) masterpiece.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Dumpster D on May 13, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
the double drums when the first Actual song kicks is sweeeet.

the guitar on that song is punk rock GOLD.

no one rocks it like this band...funny Buzz mentioned they didn't spend over 20 grand to record HAT...it's definetly remarkable.

the recording sounds better than anything that cost over 10 million...

I asked this in another post, but who can tell me what the last chord on Brain centre is?

I guessed quicly that it's like a 7th chord...who's got that tune licked?

did anyone else think these guys had a great time making this album?

"isn't this, isn't this simple...isn't this?"

FUCKING BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Like Stee on June 18, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Anyone have a link to download the b-sides?  I have 'em all, but it would be nice to just download digital versions instead of going through the hassle of recording them all off the vinyl...  Pretty please?
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Dumpster D on June 23, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
tape them off the vinyl dude.

you can't get better quality, unless you put it to open reel (or 8 track would be decent)

you're lucky you still HAVE your 7''s !!!

if you know what your doing with a good tape deck, use high bias position 11 cassettes (use 60 minute tapes because the tape is thicker than 90's) , the relatively subtle flavouring of a decent deck and you can cook a pretty awesome recording.

you need some accessories for your tape deck like a demagnetizer and a bulk cassette eraser. 

clean the heads regularily especially if playing vintage tapes from the 70's, they tend to be a litte bit more "flaky"  but it's the only way to go.

a good Solid deck from the 70's is your best bet, like a teac 360 S (2 track) or a ferrite head sony deck will be better.

I swear by my Hitachi D-E1 tape player, it's laster for a decade and was under 10 bucks at a thrift store, can't go wrong with tapes.

oh and keep them stored in ziplock bags when possible.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Pringles on September 30, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
Quote
We always loved this album but we had more returns for this record than any other we
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: GrimReaper on June 29, 2012, 12:26:09 AM

Been thinking about the H.A.T. Tour. Dr. Geek live was amazing. Buzz's hands moved faster than I thought was possible. Need to find some YouTube...........
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Metalhead Cow on June 29, 2012, 01:16:46 AM
I really hope they play some more HAT material live within the next few years.  [-o<
This might be my favorite Melvins album.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: The Bloated Pope on June 29, 2012, 05:58:30 AM

Been thinking about the H.A.T. Tour. Dr. Geek live was amazing. Buzz's hands moved faster than I thought was possible. Need to find some YouTube...........

Melvins - Dr Geek (Live @ Louisville, 2002) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzgMkBeUMuo#)

Indeed !
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Beard on June 29, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
I love Kevin's dancing
Title: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 05, 2012, 10:25:32 PM
Godamn, this album is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good. Masterwork. Genius record.

That is all.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: azathoth rising on July 05, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
My favourite! And Anti-Vermin Seed is my favourite song maybe ever. A perfect album.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 05, 2012, 11:02:35 PM
My favourite! And Anti-Vermin Seed is my favourite song maybe ever. A perfect album.

For years I considered Stoner Witch to be my favorite, closely followed by Stag, and Hostile Ambient Takeover. Lately I'm not so sure... HAT very well may be my favorite. Perfect record indeed.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 05, 2012, 11:04:45 PM
The Anti-Vermin Seed is indeed wonderfully glorious.  :love:
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (((O))) on July 06, 2012, 04:04:30 AM
Anti-Vermin Seed is my favourite song maybe ever.
It's about time someone proclaimed the greatness of that song. I think it would make for a fantastic set closer!
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: glen on July 06, 2012, 06:25:14 AM
Anti-Vermin Seed is my favourite song maybe ever.
It's about time someone proclaimed the greatness of that song. I think it would make for a fantastic set closer!

they played it live on the HAT tour.   when a track like that captivates live you know magic is abound.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: azathoth rising on July 06, 2012, 06:42:17 AM
Anti-Vermin Seed is my favourite song maybe ever.
It's about time someone proclaimed the greatness of that song. I think it would make for a fantastic set closer!

they played it live on the HAT tour.   when a track like that captivates live you know magic is abound.

Are there any good quality live recordings of it?? I'm salivating right now, I thought they had never played it. And forget a set closer, I think a better Melvins approach would be a 30-minute version to OPEN a set.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: williamblakestyger on July 06, 2012, 06:46:27 AM
5/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToK1_86ROg8#)
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: glen on July 06, 2012, 06:50:50 AM


 I think a better Melvins approach would be a 30-minute version to OPEN a set.

yeah no shit bro.  imagine 10 minutes of bass rumble just to start things off.  that'd weed out the nonbelievers quick. 
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: azathoth rising on July 06, 2012, 07:44:23 AM


 I think a better Melvins approach would be a 30-minute version to OPEN a set.

yeah no shit bro.  imagine 10 minutes of bass rumble just to start things off.  that'd weed out the nonbelievers quick.

We need to start a petition and make this a real thing *brofist
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: glen on July 06, 2012, 08:27:28 AM


 I think a better Melvins approach would be a 30-minute version to OPEN a set.

yeah no shit bro.  imagine 10 minutes of bass rumble just to start things off.  that'd weed out the nonbelievers quick.

We need to start a petition and make this a real thing *brofist

put me down for sig #1 on that petition
but if I was a betting man I'd say we'll never hear that track again live EVER,    NEVER EVER    *bro-jangles.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: EvilNewWarGod on July 06, 2012, 08:36:05 AM
I've been listening to H.A.T. a lot lately and the more I do the more I love it!
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: black stallion on July 06, 2012, 08:36:15 AM
quality of melvins albums is so high that i can decide to not put this in their top 3. for every other band HAT would be the best album ever
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Bigval on July 06, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
Much respect. I've listened to this album probably every second month since it was released (god damn 10 years ago!), such a great album, so hypnotic, feels like a warm bath. Easily their best work for mine.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (((O))) on July 06, 2012, 11:44:36 AM
quality of melvins albums is so high that i can decide to not put this in their top 3.
What would make the top 3?
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: black stallion on July 06, 2012, 12:03:34 PM
quality of melvins albums is so high that i can decide to not put this in their top 3.
What would make the top 3?

almost impossible to make a top 3. Honky/Stoner Witch/ ?
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: jonE5 on July 06, 2012, 12:43:40 PM
I would love to hear "The Brain Center at Whipples" live with both Drummers  =P~
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: EvilNewWarGod on July 06, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
I would like to hear The Fool, the Meddling Idiot live, but I don't know if Jared can play slide bass or not. I'm sure it would be simple for Trevor however
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 06, 2012, 01:01:19 PM
I would love to hear "The Brain Center at Whipples" live with both Drummers  =P~

They need to play more HAT songs live! So far, only Black Stooges. We should march down to the governer's office with picket sings and demand for more HAT. More HAT! More HAT! More HAT! More HAT! More HAT! More HAT!

south park free hat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0AmeXp5_M#)
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: glen on July 06, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
I would like to hear The Fool, the Meddling Idiot live,

also done.   during both the HAT and the POTRE tours.
it was genius during the POTRE tour. the intro coming out of  noisey POTRE track and into THE FOOL.  goosebumps, and I mean ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 06, 2012, 01:04:49 PM


 I think a better Melvins approach would be a 30-minute version to OPEN a set.

yeah no shit bro.  imagine 10 minutes of bass rumble just to start things off.  that'd weed out the nonbelievers quick.

We need to start a petition and make this a real thing *brofist

put me down for sig #1 on that petition
but if I was a betting man I'd say we'll never hear that track again live EVER,    NEVER EVER    *bro-jangles.

I refuse to believe that! How dare you speak such atrocities! [-(
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 06, 2012, 01:08:43 PM
They've played all the songs from HAT live. I encourage everyone to watch the 2002 show posted in this thread:



http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=8413.1260 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=8413.1260)

Contains all the HAT songs live
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: EvilNewWarGod on July 06, 2012, 02:01:20 PM
I would like to hear The Fool, the Meddling Idiot live,

also done.   during both the HAT and the POTRE tours.
it was genius during the POTRE tour. the intro coming out of  noisey POTRE track and into THE FOOL.  goosebumps, and I mean ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I've seen live footage of it at Eurockenes or however oh spell it. LOVE that noisy slide bass intro! 2ns only to the beginning of Manky
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (((O))) on July 06, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
5/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToK1_86ROg8#)
Okay that was absolutely awesome.  =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: pinkyslim on July 06, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
I would like to hear The Fool, the Meddling Idiot live,

 goosebumps, and I mean ALL OVER THE PLACE.

ew..so gross. :-&
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: pinkyslim on July 06, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
i saw the H.A.T. (lite) tour at Amoeba in LA when it was released..
They had these tiny amps and played real quiet.

mindblowing.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Metalhead Cow on July 06, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
The Fool, The Meddling Idiot:

1/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJvzYl5lgv8#)

Dr. Geek at 5:29 and Foaming at 7:53:

2/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ZP4BPw1iY#)

Black Stooges:

3/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhl6Z41tlIQ#)

The Brain Center At Whipples at 4:53:

4/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4RNNxTwcuk#)

Little Judas Chongo at 0:27:

4/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4RNNxTwcuk#)
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Bigval on July 07, 2012, 12:20:14 AM
Quote
4/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL

Fucking fantastic, great stuff mate.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Mount Ambulance on July 07, 2012, 01:10:37 AM
Melvins - Little Judas Chongo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_NmI2xJdi0#)

Melvins - Foaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-anGND9BHg8#)

This show has a full HAT performance. Could only find a couple on youtube ... though the whole thing is out there on the web.

Great vid of a great show ... the outro of Foaming is full on sick!

Easily one of my favorite tours I've seen.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Hot Pants on July 09, 2012, 12:36:51 AM
wow that show at Cow Haus is amazing.

yeah HAT is pretty much perfect. its a really great album.

its kind of hard to believe those quote from Buzz on how it was one of their most disliked albums by fans and the story about all of the copies that were returned. what's up with that?
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (((O))) on July 09, 2012, 03:47:01 AM
its kind of hard to believe those quote from Buzz on how it was one of their most disliked albums by fans and the story about all of the copies that were returned. what's up with that?
Yeah something doesn't sound right about that to me either. Im not saying it didn't happen of course just that it's really odd. HAT is great!
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Beard on July 09, 2012, 08:00:35 AM
Well it always takes me a little while to get into a new Melvins album..... I would never return one tho! I'd probably sell it on Ebay for a 1000% mark-up  :lol:
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Hortense on July 09, 2012, 08:20:26 AM
Hostile Ambient Takeover is my favorite recording by the Melvins. 
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: jonE5 on July 09, 2012, 10:06:32 AM
its kind of hard to believe those quote from Buzz on how it was one of their most disliked albums by fans and the story about all of the copies that were returned. what's up with that?
Yeah something doesn't sound right about that to me either. Im not saying it didn't happen of course just that it's really odd. HAT is great!

It came out as the whole record industry was really starting to tank.. No one was really buying records any more
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (PAUL) on July 09, 2012, 01:12:32 PM
Well it always takes me a little while to get into a new Melvins album..... I would never return one tho! I'd probably sell it on Ebay for a 1000% mark-up  :lol:

I think the returns were from unsold copies at the stores. Plus didn't some retail stores go out of business back in '02?
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Beard on July 09, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
I think the returns were from unsold copies at the stores. Plus didn't some retail stores go out of business back in '02?
Oh ya that makes more sense :P And ya, especially up here in Saskatchewan... We lost a shit load of music stores. We only have 2 record stores and an HMV now; which only carries DVDs/Blu-rays, and a very sparse selection of music. Only option for Melvins is online :( 
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Bigval on July 10, 2012, 01:38:20 AM
Quote
4/6 Melvins @ Cow Haus - Tallahassee, FL

Fucking fantastic, great stuff mate.

Does anyone know where I might be able to get a copy of this Cow Haus show?

I've played that video about 3-4 times already, it's just too good.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: BlueBob on July 10, 2012, 08:30:44 AM
HAT era was a special part of the melvins time-line. I think it may have been their peak for their live show. I saw them play almost all of HAT before it was released on NYE in San Francisco, including Fool and that was a great show, then I saw the the full HAT set in vegas in a tiny little club which was on the second floor of an old building, I literally thought the floor was going to cave in from the "heaviness" they were bringing.
I also remember buzz being ultra dead serious at shows and very elusive, avoiding contact with many fans. I remember seeing him run backstage alot of times from fans, lol.

HAT tour also featured the 2 min silent break/pause were they just stood there on stage while people yelled for songs.

It seems like as soon as they signed with ipecac and they put out the trilogy they really had a new energy to them and they def became more popular at that time.

And yes, Anti-Vermin seed live was mindblowing. I feel like they will never play that again. Maybe with Trevor?? Melvins Lite doing AntiVermon and The Fool anyone??
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on July 10, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
I'd like to hear Dr Geek with Trevor, it would have fit right in for the setlist they are playing right now
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: homeless_dad on July 27, 2012, 11:30:20 PM
i saw the H.A.T. (lite) tour at Amoeba in LA when it was released..
They had these tiny amps and played real quiet.

mindblowing.
I was there too.  Wonder if there is any video of that?

HAT's artwork is great.  I love the donkey art, the monster masks and random pictures. 
And of course the music is incredible!  Foaming might be one of their best ever.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: dead mike on July 28, 2012, 11:52:59 AM
HAT is flawless, start to finish. One of the best albums by any band, ever.

I suppose they could have done a ten-year anniversary re-release or whatever, but there's nothing to be improved upon in the original.

Melvins - 1. The Fool, The Meddling Idiot [Belfort - Eurockeennes 2003] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WpbHbd8Agw#)
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: jonE5 on July 29, 2012, 11:19:08 AM
^^That Video is so freaking good!.. I love how the song slowly crawls out of 5 minutes of noise.. Yum!
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Dan_Halen on August 01, 2012, 08:56:31 PM
I love H.A.T. It was my gateway CD back into loving the Melvins. I'm way too stubborn and harbored a long grudge ever since I bought Prick on cassette at a young age. I won't get into that story any further, the full version is in the Trilogy thread. H.A.T. is one of my favorite Melvins albums. I only wish it had an LP release. Recently I got the 45's which are rad, but also a tad bit peculiar to me. I guess my big question is were these released as a set or was it a monthly thing almost like the Amp Rep ones were? If that were the case than it makes way more sense to me. Basically it's just weird there are no song titles listed on the sleeves or records themselves. Also it would be nice if they at least told you the speed to play each 45 at since they play at different speeds. Oh and then they are all like "Let's throw a fucked up fast version of foaming with different vocals that are sort of at the right pitch just to fuck with everyone even more than we already are!"
 I love Ipecac but in a way I'm glad Amp Rep seems to be handling all the vinyl releases for the time being.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: (PAUL) on August 02, 2012, 04:57:10 PM
If I recall correctly they were released in batches, the first batch was something like 4 of the 7"s, the next a month or two later had the rest. I thought they had the songs listed on the vinyl? I'll have to check when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Dan_Halen on August 02, 2012, 05:16:37 PM
No songs listed on the wax, they even tell you what speed to play the record at, and some are 33 and some are 45! ](*,)
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: jules on August 02, 2012, 05:30:12 PM
No songs listed on the wax, they even tell you what speed to play the record at, and some are 33 and some are 45! ](*,)
But that's half the fun!  :D
Title: Re: HOSTILE FUCKING AMBIENT TAKEOVER
Post by: Dan_Halen on August 02, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
lol  especially with that fucked up fast version of foaming. I love the fucked up humor the Melvins have.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: andy the angry bald man on October 22, 2012, 09:30:46 AM
HAT is one of my favorites.  it's a shame they almost never play any of it live anymore...  maybe they wore it all out in the early 2000's...?
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: drumfreak:) on February 13, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
I just got H.A.T some days ago and I think I listened to it at least 500000000000 times.
IT´S FREAKIN GREAT!
I love every little thing on it!

Fav. tracks are The fool,Black Stooges and the holy Anti-Vermin Seed.
The seed is just great.
16 minutes of true love.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Oscar on September 20, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
I love The Fool. It's one of my absolute favourite Melvins songs.
There's really no other quite like it.

The riff that comes in after the already fantastic "Are they really harmless? I don't believe it" section is probably the most visceral Melvins riff ever written. No other band I know could break such a mammoth song down to a riff like that with the drums initially doing nothing but kicks to support the guitars before breaking out into overwhelming abuse and ending the whole thing with a drum solo.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: borislikesitall on January 07, 2015, 12:03:27 AM
this might be their underated album. this or Honky. underrated is a cliche word i know, but it's post post modern to me. with or without irony. think i'll get a nerd swag haircut.
.

the Anti Vermin Seed made me paranoid about zombies in my drug days before zombies were hip.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: meezer on January 07, 2015, 07:35:49 AM
"We all know that HAT is the greatest Melvins album ever. It's a scientific fact." - michael
(Paraphrasing)  :D
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Captain Howdy on January 07, 2015, 08:26:55 AM
This needs to be released on vinyl.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: meezer on January 07, 2015, 08:36:05 AM
Vinyl needs a Hostile Ambient Takeover?  :o
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: amazonAMAZON on February 23, 2015, 11:24:55 AM
THOUGHTS:

Can you guys stop writing "HAT"? It sounds stupid. If you can't spell out Hostile Ambient Takeover, could you please just write "Hostile" or "this album" when context supports it? Thanks.

That mini-song presumably about laserdisks really got me this time. I love the Melvins. That sounds like Dale, especially Dale humor. Is that Dale?

I used to think Antivermin Seed was unnecessarily long and there was too much keyboard noodling, but this recent listen I think I just let that heavy black opium molasses seep in the whole way and it was great.

Drumming on this record sounds "sloppy" to me despite others describing it as "tight." I don't mean bad, but just loose. I hear flams that are like two separate hits almost together.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: jules on February 23, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
But it says HAT in great big pink letters on the front     :oops:

(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad93/AKV126C/DSC00787_zpsa2e8d935.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/AKV126C/media/DSC00787_zpsa2e8d935.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: meezer on February 23, 2015, 12:20:18 PM
That mini-song presumably about laserdisks really got me this time. I love the Melvins. That sounds like Dale, especially Dale humor. Is that Dale?
You mean Lizardus?
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Oscar on February 23, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
How is that about laser discs?
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: homeless_dad on February 24, 2015, 03:01:34 PM
But it says HAT in great big pink letters on the front     :oops:

(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad93/AKV126C/DSC00787_zpsa2e8d935.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/AKV126C/media/DSC00787_zpsa2e8d935.jpg.html)
There's Jules, showing off again. Why don't you show off a picture of that locket of Buzz' hair or that vial of Dale's blood you gave to Stallion??  We're all impressed.... :|

It also says HAT on the cd in small lettering. Calling the album HAT has never come close to bothering me.

Killer album. Love it from start to finish.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 24, 2015, 05:47:37 PM
http://www.themelvins.net/writings/daleint01292002.html (http://www.themelvins.net/writings/daleint01292002.html)


"Dale C: Kevin came up with the title. I can't remember where he stole it from. Sounds good though. H. A. T.  for short."
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: amazonAMAZON on February 25, 2015, 11:20:17 AM
I stand corrected on all counts.

What's the story on "Lizardus" then? I thought he said laserdiscs.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 14, 2017, 10:11:25 PM
That HAT is 15 today...

http://doodlehound.blogspot.com/2017/04/distant-revisitation-melvins-hostile.html (http://doodlehound.blogspot.com/2017/04/distant-revisitation-melvins-hostile.html)
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: anaconda on April 14, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
Most folks didn't notice that the second Ipecac pressing of HAT CD's had a slightly different cover variant,
look closely at the main 'melvins' type, the bubble around the jackasses, and the way they were rendered:

(http://thesickos.free.fr/HAT.png)

Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: ))))(((( on August 19, 2017, 10:22:50 AM
I watched the 1956 movie 'Forbidden Planet' today partly because Buzz mentioned it in regards to the 'Love' soundtrack disk. I've seen it before but many years ago as a kid. Anyway at one point a character proclaims "the fool! The meddling idiot!!". I think i had sort of heard that this title was lifted from somewhere but it was a revelation to me that it was from 'Forbidden Planet'.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: the bloat on September 23, 2017, 04:26:34 PM
A Vast Filthy Prison is a super underrated tune. It has the same feel as the Anti Vermin Seed, but is its own unique beast. An excellent way to end an excellent album
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: black stallion on September 23, 2017, 05:57:41 PM
A Vast Filthy Prison is a super underrated tune. It has the same feel as the Anti Vermin Seed, but is its own unique beast. An excellent way to end an excellent album

agree
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: Bigval on April 14, 2018, 03:49:41 AM
I would just like to officially declare my love for this album again.

What an album.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: ))))(((( on April 14, 2018, 03:56:49 AM
I would just like to officially declare my love for this album again.

What an album.

Fuck.
In terms of best ever Melvins albums, it's up there. WAY up there.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: amazonAMAZON on July 04, 2018, 04:01:35 AM
If the ending of "Foaming" were a woman, I might just elope with her. We could settle down and have cute kids, and I would cherish her and treat her like royalty until my dying day. We'd save up to some day send our kids to a private electric wire school and we'd name our dog the sound of those hihats.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: immoraliste on July 12, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
Listened to this for the first time in years while walking the dog and my mind was blown. Is this the last great Melvins album? I think so. Don't get me wrong, I love every subsequent release but this one is magical.
Title: Re: Hostile Ambient Takeover
Post by: black stallion on July 13, 2018, 03:15:29 PM
Listened to this for the first time in years while walking the dog and my mind was blown. Is this the last great Melvins album? I think so. Don't get me wrong, I love every subsequent release but this one is magical.

i think they released two other killer albums after that