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Title: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: cooter on September 03, 2003, 05:32:51 AM
i know the original ten songs was released by c/z records.
but what songs were released by burning, up yours, crash, and poison records?
Title: 26 songs ?
Post by: cooter on September 04, 2003, 11:09:00 AM
11-16 were on the cassette version of GPT/17-19 were together/track 25 (music only) was on Kill Rock Stars/ blessing the operation was on deep six/that's all i know about that
Title: 26 songs ?
Post by: klump on September 14, 2003, 09:38:17 AM
i think its just bull :)
Title: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: GrimReaper on December 19, 2003, 12:58:03 AM
Was the C/Z release the Melvins 10 Songs on vinyl called 8 Songs?

Anyone with a copy fill us in.
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: black SANTA on December 19, 2003, 03:50:05 AM
yes
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: alnis on December 19, 2003, 03:55:49 AM
As far as I know, it wasn't called anything, just like the six song single isn't called anything, and the 10 song CD isn't called anything (officially, anyway). But the vinyl does indeed have 8 songs on it, so I guess the logic behind it works.
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Grindfag on December 19, 2003, 04:13:38 AM
Man, I still can't believe how can some of you think/say this isn't as good as their latter stuff.

To me, it's fantastic. Not one bad song, and the songs are in the perfect size for those who suffer from short attention spans (i.e. moi). Not to mention that "Snake appeal" has some of my favorite Melvins basslines ever. Punk as fork!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have dreams with a better-produced version of "Over from underground", actually...no shit.

Where are all the people who bought 26 songs? Get rid of your 10 songs copy now!!!!!!!!!!! I'm heavily interested in that.
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: Mesteren on December 19, 2003, 05:04:29 AM
... and all three releases has the same catalog number. But '6 songs' are different recordings to '8 songs' and '10 songs'.
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: leroy on December 19, 2003, 10:16:03 AM
that must have been really short especially since 10 songs was only like 25 minutes.
Title: I listened to 10 songs today
Post by: leroy on December 19, 2003, 10:17:46 AM
i like "number 2 pencil" and "grinding process" a lot.  don't know why they didn't re-record that for Ozma or GPT.
Title: I listened to 10 songs today
Post by: Beto Brasil on December 19, 2003, 10:47:39 AM
Quote from: leroy
i like "number 2 pencil" and "grinding process" a lot.  


At a CRAW !!!!
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: alnis on December 19, 2003, 01:07:39 PM
"six songs" is just a 7", so it's short, but not for a 7". And the versions are good stuff. They were tacked on to the 26 songs re-release.
Title: I listened to 10 songs today
Post by: alnis on December 19, 2003, 01:09:12 PM
Yah, 10 songs kicks my teeth in and it feels so good.
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: brian on December 19, 2003, 02:32:09 PM
Quote from: alnis
As far as I know, it wasn't called anything, just like the six song single isn't called anything, and the 10 song CD isn't called anything (officially, anyway). But the vinyl does indeed have 8 songs on it, so I guess the logic behind it works.


i'm not at home right now but i could have sworn it said 10 songs down the spine of the cd, making it pretty official
Title: I listened to 10 songs today
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2003, 02:40:50 PM
I love 10 songs too - especially now a limo. I love its production (or lack thereof). It is the first and definitive grunge album (and the only one by the Melvins).
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2003, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: brian
Quote from: alnis
As far as I know, it wasn't called anything, just like the six song single isn't called anything, and the 10 song CD isn't called anything (officially, anyway). But the vinyl does indeed have 8 songs on it, so I guess the logic behind it works.


i'm not at home right now but i could have sworn it said 10 songs down the spine of the cd, making it pretty official


yes. It does say "10 Songs".
Title: 8 Songs?
Post by: alnis on December 21, 2003, 02:16:14 AM
my bad
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Kurva on December 27, 2003, 07:48:28 PM
i just dont understand why someone dosent like ten songs.....

ive been listening to it all week and i fuuuuuuuuuuckin luv it :)

you can feel the ENERGY from it.... wow.... thats melvins!

the intro of number 2 pencil is a motafokin badass piece...

and buzzos voice has never ever been so BRUTAL

underground baby......
Title: 10 songs
Post by: pottyhead on December 27, 2003, 09:53:19 PM
i love you.

26 songs gets you some really cool garage stuff too from 10 songs,
 iv been listening to 10 songs all week too heh, got it for x mas, well 26 songs that is.

my favorite track on that album is grinding process.

what kind of sick fuck doesnt like 10 songs?
Title: 10 songs
Post by: The Chalupa on December 27, 2003, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: pottyhead
i love you.
what kind of sick fuck doesnt like 10 songs?

that's why they have mental asylums
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Kurva on December 28, 2003, 04:02:07 AM
what songs are on 26 songs?
and on that gpt garage demos?

mommy, i want that.... pls..... moooooommmy!  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

(sigh)
Title: 10 songs
Post by: anaconda on December 28, 2003, 08:11:13 AM
26 Songs includes is 10 Songs + the garage demos on 1 CD:

(10 Songs)
1. Easy as it Was
2. Now a Limo
3. Grinding Process
4. #2 Pencil (fucking great song!!)
5. At a Crawl
6. Disinvite
7. Snake Appeal
8. Show off your Red Hands
9. Over from Underground
10.Cray Fish

(Garage Demos)
11. Easy as it Was
12. Now a Limo
13. Grinding Process
14. At a Crawl
15. Disinvite
16. Snake Appeal
17. Set me Straight
18. Show off your red Hands
19. #2 Pencil
20. Grinding Process
21. Snake Appeal
22. At a Crawl
23. Operation Blessing
24. Breakfast on the Sly
25. Ever since my Accident
10. Hugh
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Kurva on December 28, 2003, 06:07:29 PM
gotta DL it fast  8)
Title: 10 songs
Post by: melvinsgotlaidinmybathroo on December 29, 2003, 02:46:47 AM
Quote from: kurva
gotta DL it fast  8)

you bastard....
Title: 10 songs
Post by: pottyboobs on December 29, 2003, 02:49:23 AM
Quote from: anaconda
26 Songs includes is 10 Songs + the garage demos on 1 CD:

(10 Songs)
1. Easy as it Was
2. Now a Limo
3. Grinding Process
4. #2 Pencil (fucking great song!!)
5. At a Crawl
6. Disinvite
7. Snake Appeal
8. Show off your Red Hands
9. Over from Underground
10.Cray Fish

(Garage Demos)
11. Easy as it Was
12. Now a Limo
13. Grinding Process
14. At a Crawl
15. Disinvite
16. Snake Appeal
17. Set me Straight
18. Show off your red Hands
19. #2 Pencil
20. Grinding Process
21. Snake Appeal
22. At a Crawl
23. Operation Blessing
24. Breakfast on the Sly
25. Ever since my Accident
10. Hugh


not all of them are garage demos though, some are previously recorded stuff and ever since my accident is from the kill rockstars compilation.
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Grindfag on December 29, 2003, 04:18:58 AM
Why is the last bonus track ("Hugh") numbered as 10?
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Greenmushroom on December 29, 2003, 06:38:39 AM
No Idea why it is numbered as 10 but on the Disc Nr.25 and 26 are one Track. 26 is smalltalk in the Melvins's bandroom (but none of the Melvins speaking).
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Kurva on December 29, 2003, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: melvinsgotlaidinmybathroo
Quote from: kurva
gotta DL it fast  8)

you bastard....


muhahaha
whats wrong with that? :?:  :twisted:  :cry:  :lol:
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Mesteren on January 06, 2004, 01:35:50 AM
Tracks 1-10 is the original 10 songs
Tracks 11-16 is the songs from the 6 songs 7
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2004, 04:08:32 AM
hmmm, you can hear buzz talking in the background...maybe they hadnt reached puberty yet and scrawny voices :P
Title: 10 songs
Post by: turnacuss on January 06, 2004, 02:43:55 PM
Its just boring. The production is crappay too.

Give me Ozma.
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2004, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: turnacuss
Its just boring. The production is crappay too.

Give me Ozma.


Disagreed. I'm not really into the production, but some of the songs on it are among the best Melvins' stuff, right up there with Stoner witch and Stag
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Kurva on February 27, 2004, 06:36:51 PM
you know what?
id like to hear the songs off of maggot in a 10 songs sound
maggot sounds...... tooo..... metal to me

(fuck i hate 'stupid metal'. its so goddamn boring. even death, black metal, or grind....... omg... boooooring...)

but dont get me wrong, its not like i dont like the maggot songs..
Title: 10 songs
Post by: curious on February 28, 2004, 01:04:37 AM
so you're saying that the guitar tones should be a little less punchy?  and less heavy?
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Reverend Ebeneezer on February 28, 2004, 01:30:09 AM
Quote from: kurva

(fuck i hate 'stupid metal'. its so goddamn boring. even death, black metal, or grind....... omg... boooooring...)



Let me guess, you're a Merzbow "fan", right?  :roll:
Title: 10 songs
Post by: bUcKsAtAn on February 28, 2004, 10:24:01 AM
I am a merzbow 'fan'.  but I like SOME metal.  but i don't know if you'd call it metal.  dillinger e.p., meshuggah...  complicatedcore is more like it.
Title: 10 songs
Post by: TosT on February 28, 2004, 01:33:27 PM
there's way too many categories for music these days...

the maggot is great because it doesn't really sound like the other albums though
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Kurva on February 28, 2004, 04:06:57 PM
i dont know what is a merzbow :roll:
little less punchy? no no, i like the songs (theyre not my favorite though) but the sound isnt exactly my taste
they all sound the same

thats the only thing i dont like about the maggot
i like Amazon very much, We All Love Judy, The Horn Bearer, See How Pretty, See How Smart is a great track

could someone tell me, why are the songs like this:
.....
5. We All Love Judy
6. We All Love Judy
7. Manky
8. Manky
....etc
?
Title: 10 songs
Post by: The Chalupa on February 28, 2004, 08:14:22 PM
Quote from: kurva

could someone tell me, why are the songs like this:
.....
5. We All Love Judy
6. We All Love Judy
7. Manky
8. Manky
....etc
?

each song is split into two tracks
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Vcavallo on February 28, 2004, 11:05:11 PM
because it's the goddamn melvins, man, and they are crazy fucks.  or maybe it's so you can skip to the middle if you like it there.  the middle is warm and cozy.  i think that i have problems because i think about sex way too much.  i will just barely zip my pants up and then i look at her and want her again.  is there something wrong with me?
Title: 10 songs
Post by: bUcKsAtAn on February 29, 2004, 12:30:44 AM
:shock:   :shock:
haha. no. nothing wrong.  
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
you sick fuck :lol:
Title: 10 songs
Post by: Reverend Ebeneezer on February 29, 2004, 05:30:14 AM
Quote from: bUcKsAtAn
I am a merzbow 'fan'.  but I like SOME metal.  but i don't know if you'd call it metal.  dillinger e.p., meshuggah...  complicatedcore is more like it.


I was only being faceious, Buck. His comments just sounded so much like an elitist avant garde/noise fan I know... :D
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: jakob on May 15, 2004, 05:36:35 AM
Hello! I have a question about 10 songs. I always thought Gluey Porch treatments were Melvins debut album. Then in 91 (?) C/Z issued the 8/10 songs album/cd. However, was this record originally released in 86??? I know about the 6 songs ep released in 86 (different recordings). Was the 91 record the first time those other exact RECORDINGS  were released and if that's the case, why do people refer to 10 songs as Melvins debut album?
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: jakob on May 15, 2004, 05:40:58 AM
I know that the 10 songs versions were recorded in 86...
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: turnacuss on May 15, 2004, 08:51:48 AM
I found a new copy of 10 songs in a record store 2 years ago. Pretty weird.
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: Beto Brasil on May 15, 2004, 05:57:17 PM
yeah, 10 song is the first album of Melvins,recorder by C/Z records :
Recorded live to 2 track at Ironwood,february 8, 1986.
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: klump on May 16, 2004, 05:27:52 AM
is that cover in Neither here or there with the spider and the cobweb saying the melvins also a cd?
Title: Re: Question: 10 songs
Post by: brian on May 18, 2004, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: jakob
Hello! I have a question about 10 songs. I always thought Gluey Porch treatments were Melvins debut album. Then in 91 (?) C/Z issued the 8/10 songs album/cd. However, was this record originally released in 86??? I know about the 6 songs ep released in 86 (different recordings). Was the 91 record the first time those other exact RECORDINGS  were released and if that's the case, why do people refer to 10 songs as Melvins debut album?


as far as i knew that 8 songs record was released in 86 too, then they re-released it on cd in 91 with the extra two tracks.  if i were you i'd ask the people at czrecords, http://www.czrecords.com/contact.php
Title: Re: Question: 10 songs
Post by: Mesteren on May 18, 2004, 10:28:01 AM
Quote from: brian
as far as i knew that 8 songs record was released in 86 too, then they re-released it on cd in 91 with the extra two tracks.  if i were you i'd ask the people at czrecords, http://www.czrecords.com/contact.php


I'm quite sure that both 8 songs and 10 songs were released in '91. At least the sleeve (of my copy) of 8 songs says '91.
AND it fits in with the discography printed in Melvins Newsletter #1 (WHICH I HAVE!!!!).
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: brian on May 18, 2004, 10:35:22 AM
so they waited that long to release those versions?  that is rather curious.  of course releasing 6 songs and 8 songs in the same year would be rather odd to do as well.  do you know which session occurred first?
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: Mesteren on May 18, 2004, 12:08:39 PM
This bit is taken from the PITW issue you have on your site, Brian:

Crover:
Quote:
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: brian on May 18, 2004, 12:34:00 PM
wow i hadn't actually read that article since i was in the tenth grade, thanks for pointing it out to me peter, i'll update the discography page soon to reflect that new info.
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: anaconda on May 18, 2004, 04:46:23 PM
hey, he is a card-carrying member of the melvins army after all. :)
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: turnacus on May 18, 2004, 09:22:27 PM
is the spiderweb cover the album with mark dillard or whoever
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: brian on May 20, 2004, 06:23:05 PM
so what songs aren't on 8 songs?  the last two on the cd?
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: DubEMC on May 20, 2004, 07:47:28 PM
If I remember the 2 instrumentals " Crayfish " and " Over from Underground " were not on " 8 Songs ".
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: brian on May 28, 2004, 02:15:01 PM
can anyone confirm that for me?
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: blacksanta on May 28, 2004, 08:31:33 PM
I can confirm it Brian. I have held 8 Songs in my hand a couple of times. Over from Underground and Crayfish are only on the 10 Songs CD. You can poke around on the net for some pics and songlists, I have seen it listed in some discographies.
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: anaconda on May 28, 2004, 08:55:38 PM
it was all part of the larger concept brian!.

Melvins
6 songs 7" / 8 songs LP / 10 songs CD
1986
c/z records. cz 002 / 8 / 10 tracks / 1991

Reissue LP has two bonus tracks, CD has 4 bonus tracks.

Debut EP; early live recording (feb 8 1986), but it's all there: powerful slow motion hardcore, well played & produced. [8].
Fr
Title: Question: 10 songs
Post by: blacksanta on May 29, 2004, 04:14:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4015199844&rd=1#ebayphotohosting


Here it is.
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: Bryan on September 28, 2004, 10:59:04 AM
Wondering how people feel about this release. Gonna pick it up, eventually.

So, is 26 Songs something to get excited about, or is it just an OK release?
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: FartLips on September 28, 2004, 11:52:28 AM
its the greatest evah!
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: DubEMC on September 28, 2004, 04:18:22 PM
Really, really great early material. The unreleased stuff is great. I enjoy the early stuff. If only Mangled Demos would get an official release!
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: anaconda on September 28, 2004, 06:29:32 PM
if they weren't all over the web i bet the mangled demos would have been re-released by Ipecac already.
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: DubEMC on September 28, 2004, 06:37:22 PM
Conda you're right as usual. I have it now thanks to Beto. What I would enjoy though would be maybe some remastering, a cover and some cool liner notes by Buzz.
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: anaconda on September 28, 2004, 08:28:58 PM
thx. 26 Songs is a good purchase, though technically its only like
19 songs and a few tracks with multiple takes of the same songs
but different eras/mixes. Added bonus is the 4 panel insert where Buzz goes on at length, much unlike the more recent CDs where there's very little inside text. I further like it because there's a little picture of a wheelchair on the inside that makes me think of Electroretard every time.
 8)
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: AlmightyRetard on September 29, 2004, 12:33:51 AM
Great, some great songs which wasn't relased before (I think)
Title: 26 songs?
Post by: Binkard and Friends on September 29, 2004, 11:11:39 AM
well 26 songs, as im sure you know, is re-release of the original 10 songs. they are re-mastered, and alternate takes and all that are included. buzz's liner note rant is fucking awesome. tells about the wierd tour life of early Melvins


the first 10 (remastered) songs are really powerful, heavy rock songs. slightly punk influenced, with great riffs. Buzz's voice sounds slightly distorted, and dale's drum sound thick and heavy. great all around. get it.
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: crazyslap on January 04, 2005, 10:10:07 AM
I recently burned a copy of this off my mate and i think that its my favorite melvins album to date. Really slow and sludgy stuff. My favorite are easy as it was, #2 a pencil, at a crawl and the much better version of set me straight. Any other really big fans of this album?
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: Dr. Gonzo on January 04, 2005, 10:46:48 AM
right here.... I bought it  which is rare for me and I made a T-shirt with it's cover huge on the front (in color).
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: crazyslap on January 04, 2005, 11:41:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Gonzo
right here.... I bought it  which is rare for me and I made a T-shirt with it's cover huge on the front (in color).


nice! I bidded for a cool bullhead shirt on ebay but some fucker outbidded me at the last second!!!!
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: DubEMC on January 04, 2005, 11:45:20 AM
Yeah that's really cool early stuff. I wish there was more like it!
Title: Re: 26 songs rules!
Post by: Beto Brasil on January 04, 2005, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: crazyslap
at a crawl


the best song of Melvins!!!
my favor ! 10 songs is the best album !!  :wink:
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: karl on January 04, 2005, 06:42:15 PM
ya,i love that album.i love snake appeal(the track 23 one),the start is really cool.and.....now that i listen to it,the rest of the song rocks just as much!!!ya 26 songs is definitly one of my favorite melvins cds.
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: Binkard and Friends on January 04, 2005, 08:32:25 PM
excellent early stuff by the Melvins, it really displayed how fucking heavy their music was were for being a bunch of teenagers.


the drums sound clunky and huge, and Buzz's voice is slightly, tastfully distorted.
Title: 26 songs rules!
Post by: Kurva on January 05, 2005, 09:41:19 AM
number 2 pencil: the 'intro'

F
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R
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Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: feelmytool on February 19, 2005, 11:07:39 AM
can someone clear this up for me. are all of these songs on "26 songs" because there are 24 when i count them all up. and is there anything from any of these albums that doesn't appear on 26 songs?
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on February 19, 2005, 11:30:46 AM
The 26 Songs CD covers it all. There's really no 26th song on the CD; at the end of track 25 there's a "field" recording of them fucking around talking with some neigborhood weirdo and jamming at someone's house when they were teens.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: feelmytool on February 19, 2005, 11:37:03 AM
thanks man i'm going to buy another melvins cd and i didn't know which one i wanted to buy so i decided to see what the differance between all of these are
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: (PAUL) on March 03, 2005, 01:28:36 PM
The songs on 10 Songs and 8 Songs are the same, the cd just had two extra songs. The songs on 6 Songs are the same songs but different versions of them. They are all included on 26 Songs. Kind of confusing, and the fact that they include 2 and sometimes 3 of the same song with different recordings of it doesn't help matters.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: feelmytool on March 03, 2005, 02:52:16 PM
so everything is included on 26 songs right, cause i'm gonna buy it pretty soon.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: noctrun on March 03, 2005, 03:42:56 PM
here is the origin of each song (feel free to correct me/add stuff)

01 Easy As It Was - 8/10 Songs
02 Now A Limo - 8/10 Songs
03 Grinding Process - 8/10 Songs
04 #2 Pencil - 8/10 Songs
05 At A Crawl - 8/10 Songs
06 Disinvite - 8/10 Songs
07 Snake Appeal - 8/10 Songs
08 Show Off Your Red Hands - 8/10 Songs
09 Over Form Underground - 10 Songs
10 Cray Fish - 10 Songs
11 Easy As It Was - 6 Songs
12 Now A Limo - 6 Songs
13 Grinding Process - 6 Songs
14 At A Crawl - 6 Songs
15 Disinvite - 6 Songs
16 Snake Appeal - 6 Songs
17 Set Me Straight - Outakes from 1st 7 inch (Single, bootleg?)
18 Show Off Your Red Hands - Outakes from 1st 7 inch (Single, bootleg?)
19 #2 Pencil - Outakes from 1st 7 inch (Single, bootleg?)
20 Grinding Process
21 Snake Appeal
22 At A Crawl
23 Operation Blessing
24 Breakfast On The Sly
25 Ever Since My Accident - Kill Rock Stars (VA) (imho the quality is a little better on KRS)
26 Hugh
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: Battlecat on March 03, 2005, 04:02:51 PM
Seems strange (as this release is aiming for completeness) that they didn't include the 4 tracks from the Deep Six Compilation and Malfunkshun split 7" on this. They're from the same period, contain a couple of alternate versions of tracks already on there, and would've fitted on the CD. Any ideas why they're not on there?
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: anaconda on March 03, 2005, 04:23:13 PM
I think becuz Cruz Records still owns the rights to release the Deep Six comp versions
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on March 03, 2005, 04:44:21 PM
What the Melvins should do is release a b-sides boxset with EVERYTHING(live and studio) that has not been included on the official albums/CDs that are in print. There's a ton of stuff out there, the one-off singles on small defunct labels, the Atlantic years, ToraX3 box, etc. etc.

 I'm just too lazy to be bothered with downloading/transferring and hunting down singles on ebay for one song.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: klump on March 03, 2005, 04:54:37 PM
I have a feeling that were gonna have to wait a while for the next melvins album.

they have sort of had a gigantic production level the last few years, so...maybe some re-issues, but i think a fullfledged album will take a while...

(all the statements above are obviously reversed psychology to make the melvins do the EXACT opposite !  :lol: )

(damn phpbb codes! :P )
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: DubEMC on March 03, 2005, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: anaconda
I think becuz Cruz Records still owns the rights to release the Deep Six comp versions



Conda did you mean C/Z records? Cuz Cruz Records was a pretty crappy label.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: anaconda on March 03, 2005, 08:31:32 PM
yes, simple slip of the fingers Dub. Nice attention to detail there.
I picked up Blessed Black Wings todays btw, would i be
out of line to say there's a definite Motorhead influence??
They picked up some schooling obviously when they toured with
Motorhead last year. At least from the first three songs, and that
great opening drum assault on Devilution. Thats the only time you
hear Albini's patented dry drum sound on the whole CD! hahha when
Des is unaccompanied!

-----
p.s. Cruz is/was shit Dub, I have some Greg Ginn solo bullshit
that he mailed to our studio ages ago. Complete crap to be honest.
Greg Ginn with drum machines?? So uncool.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: DubEMC on March 03, 2005, 08:36:20 PM
Was that Dick by Greg Ginn? Talk about a guy that lost his edge. Yeah and that ALL stuff was some of the worst music I've ever heard
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: anaconda on March 03, 2005, 08:56:29 PM
did everybody out there get a promo copy of DICK? hahhaa, my mom even  has one.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: DubEMC on March 03, 2005, 10:02:00 PM
It's like the Frampton Comes Alive of the 90s! Seriously though he should never have put Gone back together without Weiss and Cain.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: noctrun on March 04, 2005, 05:36:58 AM
Quote from: anaconda
I think becuz Cruz Records still owns the rights to release the Deep Six comp versions

I doubt that c/z would care (I mean 6 and 8/10 are c/z releases) but the original deep six (the one with the blue cover) was a limited edition of 2000 seven inches, it was rereleased in 1994 by a&m (interscope/geffen) with red/green cover art and I can imagine that such major label might object
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on March 05, 2005, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: anaconda
did everybody out there get a promo copy of DICK? hahhaa, my mom even  has one.



 Funny; the last few times I ordered some CDs from SST (Minutemen, Husker Du), they sent me some UPC-punched Cruz CDs for free - Goodbye Harry(guys from ALL), plus Ginn's "Getting Even" and "Let It Burn...". "Getting Even" is alright, ended up getting two copies of that one.

 Sold most of them on ebay for $5 a pop. One of the Ginn CDs I cashed in at an indie shop for a few bucks and bought the lone sealed copy of Melvins -YCLS#12 for under $10 :shock: .

The first two Gone CDs are the only post-Flag Ginn albums that I enjoy.
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: anaconda on March 05, 2005, 11:56:16 AM
pardon my ignorance but what's "Melvins -YCLS#12"???
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on March 05, 2005, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: anaconda
pardon my ignorance but what's "Melvins -YCLS#12"???



Your Choice Live Series  - (Germany '91)
Title: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: DubEMC on March 05, 2005, 09:28:26 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers


 Sold most of them on ebay for $5 a pop. One of the Ginn CDs I cashed in at an indie shop for a few bucks and bought the lone sealed copy of Melvins -YCLS#12 for under $10 :shock: .




You suck man! :lol:
Title: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Metalhead Cow on October 28, 2006, 08:29:28 PM
I was listening to it a lot today. Great cd! I LOVE #2 Pencil.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: GrimReaper on October 29, 2006, 09:06:45 AM

Some karma for ya for making me get 26 songs out and dust it off.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Smellis on October 29, 2006, 09:48:40 AM
I can't think of set me straight without DCH attached to it now. I think my brain is reprogrammed from hearing it the new way.
Title: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: Idlehanz on October 29, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
http://www.gemm.com/item/MELVINS/10--SONGS/GML852387603/

Maybe I'm not getting something....???
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: duster on October 29, 2006, 04:38:06 PM
well, you definitely won't be getting that album.

Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on October 29, 2006, 05:37:46 PM
http://www.gemm.com/item/MELVINS/10--SONGS/GML852387603/

Maybe I'm not getting something....???
Gemm is really overpriced.
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: GrimReaper on October 29, 2006, 11:32:26 PM

Can't believe I was buying Alchohol Funny Car c/d's when I could have made a fortune off the Melvins.  :(
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: glen on October 30, 2006, 06:38:47 AM
and I own this.  no way in a million years I'd sell it.   a million dollars?  maybe.  but a million years, no way.
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: spunkmonkey on October 30, 2006, 10:04:49 AM
I got it used for $8 a couple of years ago at Amoeba.
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: Zelig on October 30, 2006, 04:58:28 PM
and I own this.
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: Zelig on October 30, 2006, 04:59:10 PM
You can probably get this record for around $40 U.S. on ebay.
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: Idlehanz on October 30, 2006, 05:31:07 PM
You can probably get this record for around $40 U.S. on ebay.

It's for a cd.....
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on October 30, 2006, 05:59:29 PM
You can probably get this record for around $40 U.S. on ebay.

It's for a cd.....
Dios mio, that is insane.  The cd can be found for around 10 to 15 dollars.  Might as well get the reissue anyways.
Title: Re: $93 for 10 Songs
Post by: Chomas on October 31, 2006, 11:20:54 AM
I just got a pretty much perfect used copy for like $12 shipped from amazon.  I snagged it because I didnt have it, not because it was cheap, but come to think of it you dont see it for sale that often...
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: deatheats on November 01, 2006, 12:12:36 AM
I was shuffling the ipod the other day and deserted cities of the heart starts (cream version) playing and I hadn't actually heard it yet.  Its kinda weird when you know a cover 100x better than the original.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: norecess on November 01, 2006, 05:57:27 AM
Its kinda weird when you know a cover 100x better than the original.

In my theory no cover can ever top the original. I do like all Melvins covers because they're often a completely original interpretation of the original - the way you want a cover to be - but yet stays just close enough to the original.

Oh wait, you were talking about 'knowing'. What's so weird about that?
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: steve on November 01, 2006, 07:27:24 AM
I also like #2 Pencil...  :P
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: deatheats on November 01, 2006, 10:43:49 AM
Its kinda weird when you know a cover 100x better than the original.

In my theory no cover can ever top the original. I do like all Melvins covers because they're often a completely original interpretation of the original - the way you want a cover to be - but yet stays just close enough to the original.

Oh wait, you were talking about 'knowing'. What's so weird about that?

I guess its not that weird, it was just surprising to hear such a different take on the same song when I wasn't expecting it (cause I didn't even know I owned the original).  I do agree the Melvins do a great job of making the covers they do "their own".
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Leeech on November 01, 2006, 07:12:04 PM
26 songs does kick ass.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: coodies on January 29, 2007, 05:53:50 PM
breakfest on the sly 8)
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: CaptainPungent on January 29, 2007, 06:08:17 PM
yep yep yep!
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 29, 2007, 06:13:14 PM
26 songs does kiss  ass.
:x
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: didlisquat on January 29, 2007, 06:25:53 PM
one of the only melvins i don't own
remember listening to it back in college ('93)
10 songs of course
but never felt like i needed it
which version of  'at a crawl' do you like better?
songs or ozma?
i will give this a listen next time at the record store
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Mad Arab on January 29, 2007, 06:37:43 PM
I like the sound on 10 songs better.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Metalhead Cow on January 29, 2007, 07:58:09 PM
Wow! My old-ass thread that I created a while ago got ressurected! Cool! :P
I'd have to say I like the Ozma At A Crawl better. 8)
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Vcavallo on January 29, 2007, 09:49:10 PM
10 songs is very raw in a most satisfying way
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 30, 2007, 12:14:50 AM
i like the liner notes from all of the re-issued records.  for me, it adds a little perspective to the whole thing, which i enjoy. 
everytime i listen to 26 songs i picture a young dale beating up a beat up drum kit with heads caved in like soup bowls and recording a revolutionary style of drumming that had never been done (to my knowledge).  it's fascinating to me.  and that's just the drumming!  i won't start on buzz's songs or guitar playing.
i guess it makes me appreciate the melvins even more, if that's possible.   
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Mad Arab on January 30, 2007, 01:38:55 PM
10 songs is very raw in a most satisfying way

Indeed it is. INDEED!
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: glen on January 30, 2007, 01:41:23 PM
thats a prett kick-ass handle and avatar you got there sergeant D.   

me likey, beddy beddy much.   

Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Mad Arab on January 30, 2007, 03:00:02 PM
thats a prett kick-ass handle and avatar you got there sergeant D.  

me likey, beddy beddy much.   



I'm partial to it myself. I got tired of the Justin Timberlake avatar.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: GrimReaper on February 01, 2007, 03:22:36 AM
I like 26 Songs. You get a lot of songs.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Vcavallo on February 01, 2007, 10:36:06 AM
I like 26 Songs. You get a lot of songs.

yea like, 30 or somtin
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Idlehanz on March 03, 2007, 09:57:08 PM
I like 26 Songs. You get a lot of songs.

yea like, 30 or somtin

no no no, it's 27         duh
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: shanemeister5000 on February 15, 2008, 08:21:52 PM
my favorite was "hugh"
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: mckickflip on March 16, 2008, 04:30:05 PM
i've been really getting into 26 songs lately. i saw a cool 10 songs LP just go for around $40 on ebay, but i don't have the funds to buy anything. #2 pencil is such a good song. hugh is gold.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Idiotska on May 19, 2008, 10:53:00 PM
I just noticed Show Off Your Red Hands and Don't Piece Me share the same last lines.

"Never is an ugly word."
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Idiotska on May 30, 2008, 08:32:04 PM
I also found out that the "demo" version of Easy As It Was is used in Kurt Cobain's Montage of Heck.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Uncle Fester on September 21, 2008, 12:35:23 PM
I also found out that the "demo" version of Easy As It Was is used in Kurt Cobain's Montage of Heck.
bullshit. e=mc squared. not kurt cobain is the ruler of our galaxy.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Idiotska on September 29, 2008, 11:01:42 PM
I also found out that the "demo" version of Easy As It Was is used in Kurt Cobain's Montage of Heck.
bullshit. e=mc squared. not kurt cobain is the ruler of our galaxy.
I'll keep that in mind, Mr. Man.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Uncle Fester on October 01, 2008, 12:07:10 PM
I also found out that the "demo" version of Easy As It Was is used in Kurt Cobain's Montage of Heck.
bullshit. e=mc squared. not kurt cobain is the ruler of our galaxy.
I'll keep that in mind, Mr. Man.
I like you. you should come into the ecumenical discussion everyonce in a while.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: kdools on October 11, 2009, 12:43:17 AM
whats a good price for the 26 songs CD?
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: BaronVonLipshitz on October 11, 2009, 06:42:49 AM
whats a good price for the 26 songs CD?

Found it used for $6 at my local record shop.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: PrickHonky on October 12, 2009, 05:11:05 PM
I have it released as 26 Songs from Ipecac and I really like this one. All of the songs have that wonderful, heavy as shit Melvins sounds we all love, and I can almost hear the evolution of Gluey Porch Treatments in it.
Title: Re: 26 Songs kicks so much ass
Post by: Captain CoryCory on July 09, 2011, 06:13:47 PM
i like the liner notes from all of the re-issued records.  for me, it adds a little perspective to the whole thing, which i enjoy. 
everytime i listen to 26 songs i picture a young dale beating up a beat up drum kit with heads caved in like soup bowls and recording a revolutionary style of drumming that had never been done (to my knowledge).  it's fascinating to me.  and that's just the drumming!  i won't start on buzz's songs or guitar playing.
i guess it makes me appreciate the melvins even more, if that's possible.   


Half the reason I bought the old reissues was for the liner notes! They're wonderfully insane, keeping details on the music vague and telling stories of all the madness going on in that whole Washington scene! Not many bands have liner notes in a remotely same vein (If I can find one I'll buy!).
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: musicismyradar on September 14, 2013, 12:02:53 PM
BREAKFAST ON THE SLY!!!!
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: drumfreak:) on February 13, 2014, 03:52:25 PM
I just noticed Show Off Your Red Hands and Don't Piece Me share the same last lines.

"Never is an ugly word."

I think that "Don´t Piece Me" is an improved version of "Show Off Your Red Hands" ....Their ends sound exactly the same...
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Idiotska on February 22, 2014, 10:17:29 AM
Is the Let's Kiss version of At A Crawl the same version as the version that's on 26 Song's 22nd track? At least the vocals are the same.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: Dan_Halen on March 26, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
Just got 8 Songs on vinyl in the mail and I'm digging it. I agree with Flutter on hearing how the band evolved but overall it reminds me more of Ozma than Gluey Porch Treatments. I now officially have pretty much every Melvins album on vinyl. It is a happy day for Dan Halen.  :D
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: brian on April 25, 2014, 09:32:28 AM
Can anyone make out the background text on this?

(http://www.themelvins.net/wiki/images/3/3b/SixSongsSide2.jpeg)
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: jules on April 25, 2014, 02:52:49 PM
It's a list of 'bands and people we shouldn't ever forget', presumably penned by Chris Hanzsek. He was going to sell me the stampers and some test pressings of 6 Songs but nothing ever came of it in the end. Not for lack of trying, of course.  :D
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: brian on April 25, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
It's a list of 'bands and people we shouldn't ever forget', presumably penned by Chris Hanzsek. He was going to sell me the stampers and some test pressings of 6 Songs but nothing ever came of it in the end. Not for lack of trying, of course.  :D
weird, he promised me he sold me all of the 6 songs test pressings he had  :-k

I just assumed the list came from the band, the ones I could make out of note were Beyond Possession, Krist Novaselic, Mike Dillard, Green River, Steve Turner, Mombius Hibachi, Steve Newman, Kurdt Kobain, and Kiss...

Beyond Possession - Tell Tale Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHcfcq_eVIM#)
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: jules on April 25, 2014, 03:35:46 PM
weird, he promised me he sold me all of the 6 songs test pressings he had  :-k
That may be true, I'm going back three years or so. Also up for grabs were the stampers and test pressings for Deep Six if I remember right. He got everything out and we talked about prices (he wanted $800 for the 6 Songs stampers and a test press which was out of my range) but a year later I contacted him again, he said he'd get them out again and that was the last I heard.

Maybe he got lucky and someone bought the lot?
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: meezer on August 25, 2015, 06:20:25 AM
Just listening last night. Excellent record!
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: h3r3t!c on November 21, 2015, 12:47:43 AM
So which version is it that was recorded in February 1986? Six songs or Eight/Ten songs? And when was the other version recorded then? Do we know?
Title: Re: 8,6,10,26 songs
Post by: meezer on November 21, 2015, 06:53:17 AM
The 26 Songs CD covers it all. There's really no 26th song on the CD; at the end of track 25 there's a "field" recording of them fucking around talking with some neigborhood weirdo and jamming at someone's house when they were teens.
Confirmed.

http://youtu.be/Jlio-_Plzjk

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Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: DToxico on November 25, 2015, 07:07:45 AM
I dunno about you guys, but I'd really love to see Ipecac or Alternative Tentacles or somebody do a remastered vinyl set like the recent Boner ones but pairing 10 Songs & Gluey Porch Treatments. I really like both of those albums and it would be awesome to have them on vinyl on the shelf next to my other Melvins rekkids, especially if they got the same beautiful remaster treatment as those Boner ones. And I've got a plan to get Mike Patton and/or Jello Biafra onboard; I'll be on it just as soon as I get a cocktail dress and a crowbar.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: h3r3t!c on January 07, 2020, 10:15:55 AM
Okay, what do you think about this?

This is from the Wiki here:
Quote
Dale Crover said this about the various C/Z Records versions of this release: "The way it was (recorded), it could have been better. We set up live in a 24-track studio and the original 7” sounds all boxed in. Since it was our first record, we really didn’t know what we were doing. I think the songs are OK, but the sound quality should have been much better for what it was. The re-release of that on C/Z was actually a different recording. We recorded the songs twice because on the first one, the vocals were a little bit distorted, a little bit too hot, and our bass player (Matt Lukin of Mudhoney) had only changed one string on his bass, so this one string was really bright and the others were dead. We went back in the studio and did them again and put the second (session) out. When we listened back to the first one a long time later, we just thought it sounded way better, so when they re-issued it (on C/Z) we had them put that one out."

Quite hard to fetch what he says here (at least for me as a non-native speaker) but doesn't Dale say that for the original "6 Songs" release, they used the re-recorded versions, and when it was re-issued later (as "8 Songs", later "10 Songs"), they listened to the initial recordings again, liked them better than the re-recordings (despite the distorted vocals and the too bright bass string) and used those? Think nobody has noticed this yet, or at least I couldn't find it.

Side note: The crappy quality versions of "Show Off Your Red Hands" and "#2 Pencil" on 26 Songs (Tracks 18 and 19, presumably sourced from the "Outtake From First 7"" release) are exactly the same takes as the versions released on "Eight/Ten Songs" (Tracks 4 and 8 ). They are simply repeated on this release, but in much worse quality. Nobody seems to have noticed this yet either.

So the initial session (used on "8/10 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / #2 Pencil / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal / Show Off Your Red Hands / Over From Underground / Crayfish

The re-recording (used on "6 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal

Leaves Set Me Straight. Given that it is found together with #2 Pencil and Show Off Your Red Hands, I suppose it also belongs to the initial session. Makes sense because it is an older song that was already present in '83.
Title: Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
Post by: PepsiMike on January 07, 2020, 04:03:46 PM
I think you’re correct.

Okay, what do you think about this?

This is from the Wiki here:
Quote
Dale Crover said this about the various C/Z Records versions of this release: "The way it was (recorded), it could have been better. We set up live in a 24-track studio and the original 7” sounds all boxed in. Since it was our first record, we really didn’t know what we were doing. I think the songs are OK, but the sound quality should have been much better for what it was. The re-release of that on C/Z was actually a different recording. We recorded the songs twice because on the first one, the vocals were a little bit distorted, a little bit too hot, and our bass player (Matt Lukin of Mudhoney) had only changed one string on his bass, so this one string was really bright and the others were dead. We went back in the studio and did them again and put the second (session) out. When we listened back to the first one a long time later, we just thought it sounded way better, so when they re-issued it (on C/Z) we had them put that one out."

Quite hard to fetch what he says here (at least for me as a non-native speaker) but doesn't Dale say that for the original "6 Songs" release, they used the re-recorded versions, and when it was re-issued later (as "8 Songs", later "10 Songs"), they listened to the initial recordings again, liked them better than the re-recordings (despite the distorted vocals and the too bright bass string) and used those? Think nobody has noticed this yet, or at least I couldn't find it.

Side note: The crappy quality versions of "Show Off Your Red Hands" and "#2 Pencil" on 26 Songs (Tracks 18 and 19, presumably sourced from the "Outtake From First 7"" release) are exactly the same takes as the versions released on "Eight/Ten Songs" (Tracks 4 and 8 ). They are simply repeated on this release, but in much worse quality. Nobody seems to have noticed this yet either.

So the initial session (used on "8/10 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / #2 Pencil / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal / Show Off Your Red Hands / Over From Underground / Crayfish

The re-recording (used on "6 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal

Leaves Set Me Straight. Given that it is found together with #2 Pencil and Show Off Your Red Hands, I suppose it also belongs to the initial session. Makes sense because it is an older song that was already present in '83.