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Title: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 12, 2018, 10:30:29 AM
New album!!


(https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician.jpg?quality=80&w=806)


1. Stop Moving To Florida
2. Embrace The Rub
3. Don't Forget To Breathe
4. Flamboyant Duck
5. Break Bread
6. I Want To Hold Your Hand
7. Prenup Butter
8. Graveyard


“We’ve never had two bass players. We’ve had two drummers and two guitar players so it makes total sense to now have two bass players. We’ll be taking this two-prong bass attack on the road as well which should prove to be interesting. Pinkus Abortion Technician is a radically great record and was a stone groove to record. We drank a lot of coffee and enjoyed each other’s company. I like Steven and Jeff a great deal. I admire their bass playing and singing and both of them can grill a mean steak.” - Buzz



https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/02/melvins-announce-new-album-pinkus-abortion-technician-map-out-north-american-tour/

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on February 12, 2018, 10:32:41 AM
Finally the cat is out of the bag. It sounds good. Some will love it, some will hate.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Alex- on February 12, 2018, 10:35:23 AM
Graveyard! Can’t wait to hear the full album and hope they will bring this lineup to europe  [-o<
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 12, 2018, 10:35:32 AM
Im really super glad that Graveyard FINALLY gets on a Melvins album!! I love that cover of theirs. Interesting that Stop, Moving To Florida and The Beatles tune make the cut too. Again it's good to see them feature.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on February 12, 2018, 11:13:23 AM
mmmh.. just realized two songs are those covers. so it's just six new songs

btw, looks Walsby did some art for this release
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on February 12, 2018, 11:32:45 AM
Can't wait for this one. I don't care if it's two covers and 6 new. Two bass attack ftw
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on February 12, 2018, 11:45:41 AM
I have a strong feeling this album is gonna rule
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on February 12, 2018, 11:59:22 AM
4 Covers (two combined) and 5 New Ones.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on February 12, 2018, 12:09:18 PM
Looks REAL cool. Two bassists... and eight songs (as opposed to 12 or so) suggesting massive rumblers... and a nice tour, too! OH YEAAAH!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 12, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
eight songs (as opposed to 12 or so) suggesting massive rumblers...
I imagine that Graveyard might stretch out a bit similar to that live version they did with feedback or odd sounds at the end. Which is something Melvins have done on a great many of their albums lately - end on weird noises etc. I would suspect The Beatles cover is still pretty short.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on February 12, 2018, 12:16:39 PM
4 Covers (two combined) and 5 New Ones.

Graveyard
I wanna hold your hand
Stop moving to Florida
And??
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 12, 2018, 12:22:59 PM
4 Covers (two combined) and 5 New Ones.

Graveyard
I wanna hold your hand
Stop moving to Florida
And??
'Stop Moving To Florida' is TWO songs combined. The James Gang cover 'Stop' and 'Moving To Florida' by the Butthole Surfers.



The band play cool versions of both on this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ILoa4erXQ
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on February 12, 2018, 12:36:01 PM
4 Covers (two combined) and 5 New Ones.

Graveyard
I wanna hold your hand
Stop moving to Florida
And??
'Stop Moving To Florida' is TWO songs combined. The James Gang cover 'Stop' and 'Moving To Florida' by the Butthole Surfers.



The band play cool versions of both on this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ILoa4erXQ

My mistake. I thought you were saying there were two combined covers plus graveyard and I wanna hold your hand.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on February 12, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
It's a good thing they're covering that Beatles song because those guys were the "worst musicians ever"  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 12, 2018, 04:29:44 PM
It's a good thing they're covering that Beatles song because those guys were the "worst musicians ever"
Just imagine what Quincy Jones would say about Melvins!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on February 12, 2018, 07:41:43 PM
Another year, another Melvin's release... 8)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Hot Pants on February 12, 2018, 09:02:05 PM
cant wait to hear some tracks.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on February 13, 2018, 07:22:45 AM
It's a good thing they're covering that Beatles song because those guys were the "worst musicians ever"
Just imagine what Quincy Jones would say about Melvins!!

Interviewer: So, what do you think of the Melvins?

QJ: The Melvins? Nice guys. They helped faked the moon landing with Stevie Wonder. Gene Krupa taught them everything they know after he shot the governor of Mississippi and had to get plastic surgery to change his face. He was laying low. Say, do you like Brazilian music?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 13, 2018, 07:55:25 AM
Last year in an interview Dale said this album wasn't planned. He said Jeff came down to LA and they recorded the record. In light of that i wonder how well thought out or "written" the songs are. Especially the originals from Buzz. Knowing that these cover songs were live staples for a while does make it seem a little like they threw this one together a bit. That Buzz had a few songs written and they simply just decided to record the covers they had been playing to fill out an LP. Im sure it's not quite like that of course but it does make you wonder how vital the impetus to create this album was for the band.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on February 13, 2018, 09:55:59 AM
^^^ And from what I've heard in recent interviews, they are really excited to be playing with both Steve and Jeff. Makes sense, they always seemed to have a ton of fun playing with them.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Mount Ambulance on February 13, 2018, 10:55:01 AM
Hold It In was great but not nearly as weird as I had expected or hoped for ... Hope on this one they got exceedingly lost all up there in Weirdsville.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on February 13, 2018, 11:25:53 AM
I'm keeping my mouth shut, and letting it all play out.  I'm biased, and like it.  Like I said, some will like it, and as Taylor Swift said, the haters are going to hate, that I have no doubt.  Besides the two bass attack, this album as a couple other first in Melvin's history.

Short time to write and record a record is a good thing.  The original Hold It In tracks were written over a short time, then once Paul got involved and brought a few more tracks, it snow balled into a bigger release.  It was originally only going to be a 4 song EP, and look what we got.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 13, 2018, 11:41:06 AM
Hold It In was great but not nearly as weird as I had expected or hoped for
It was a little long for me. The quality dipped a bit here and there i thought with the odd song. Being that it was a longer Melvins record, i wish that album had a few of the lesser tracks lobbed off to create a tighter set of songs. And when i say "lesser" tracks i mean the Paul Leary ones!


It was originally only going to be a 4 song EP, and look what we got.
Yes i remember that rumour being mentioned on here. The Pinkus EP i recall it being named.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: echidna on February 13, 2018, 12:50:32 PM
Vital Impetus! :D
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on February 13, 2018, 06:51:47 PM
The Pinkus EP i recall it being named.

Which is basically what this seems to be. Five new songs and three covers is a bit of a cheeky release IMO.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on February 13, 2018, 08:36:09 PM
It's a good thing they're covering that Beatles song because those guys were the "worst musicians ever"
Just imagine what Quincy Jones would say about Melvins!!

Interviewer: So, what do you think of the Melvins?

QJ: The Melvins? Nice guys. They helped faked the moon landing with Stevie Wonder. Gene Krupa taught them everything they know after he shot the governor of Mississippi and had to get plastic surgery to change his face. He was laying low. Say, do you like Brazilian music?
=D>
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (PAUL) on February 13, 2018, 09:28:01 PM
The writeup at Metal Injection was pretty funny.

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Melvins released a double album called A Walk With Love And Death on July 7, 2017, and then embarked on a 61-date tour that stretched from July to October. Clearly the band took about 30 minutes off between getting home and working on a new record, because there's a new Melvins record coming on April 20.

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I can hear some of you from miles away right now too, and here's what you're saying – "what about Basses Loaded? That had SIX bassists! THIS IS BULLSHIT!" Well, yeah, but that had six bassists all performing on separate songs, whereas Pinkus Abortion Technician has two bassists performing simultaneously on each track. So suck it, hypothetical person.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dirtmerchant on February 13, 2018, 10:16:27 PM
I'm keeping my mouth shut, and letting it all play out.  I'm biased, and like it.  Like I said, some will like it, and as Taylor Swift said, the haters are going to hate, that I have no doubt.  Besides the two bass attack, this album as a couple other first in Melvin's history.

Short time to write and record a record is a good thing.  The original Hold It In tracks were written over a short time, then once Paul got involved and brought a few more tracks, it snow balled into a bigger release.  It was originally only going to be a 4 song EP, and look what we got.

All I want to know is.....is it heavy?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 14, 2018, 04:16:41 AM
The Pinkus EP i recall it being named.
Which is basically what this seems to be. Five new songs and three covers is a bit of a cheeky release IMO.
I thought the same, although i suspect those original Pinkus songs made their way onto 'Hold It In'.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on February 14, 2018, 05:45:29 AM
The writeup at Metal Injection was pretty funny.

Quote
Melvins released a double album called A Walk With Love And Death on July 7, 2017, and then embarked on a 61-date tour that stretched from July to October. Clearly the band took about 30 minutes off between getting home and working on a new record, because there's a new Melvins record coming on April 20.

Shows what they know, both were written more or less at the same time, one just had to wait it's turn at Ipecac.

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I can hear some of you from miles away right now too, and here's what you're saying – "what about Basses Loaded? That had SIX bassists! THIS IS BULLSHIT!" Well, yeah, but that had six bassists all performing on separate songs, whereas Pinkus Abortion Technician has two bassists performing simultaneously on each track. So suck it, hypothetical person.
Didn't they have a record recently with three basses at the same time?  Wasn't that record several years old?  So why step down to two now, shouldn't they be building?...THIS IS BULLSHIT!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on February 14, 2018, 09:46:22 AM
All I want to know is.....is it heavy?

Right?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 14, 2018, 09:56:07 AM
I'd be majorly surprised if the answer to that is anything other than - "no, not really". I imagine it falls in line with how Basses Loaded and A Walk With... sound.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: lust on February 14, 2018, 10:00:46 AM
It's a good thing they're covering that Beatles song because those guys were the "worst musicians ever"
Just imagine what Quincy Jones would say about Melvins!!

Interviewer: So, what do you think of the Melvins?

QJ: The Melvins? Nice guys. They helped faked the moon landing with Stevie Wonder. Gene Krupa taught them everything they know after he shot the governor of Mississippi and had to get plastic surgery to change his face. He was laying low. Say, do you like Brazilian music?

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DToxico on February 14, 2018, 12:07:11 PM
The Pinkus EP i recall it being named.

Which is basically what this seems to be. Five new songs and three covers is a bit of a cheeky release IMO.

Remember though, Lysol was only three new songs and three covers, and that one's obviously endured.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: some guy on February 14, 2018, 01:11:07 PM
The Pinkus EP i recall it being named.

Which is basically what this seems to be. Five new songs and three covers is a bit of a cheeky release IMO.

Remember though, Lysol was only three new songs and three covers, and that one's obviously endured.

they're never gonna make something like that again though
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on February 14, 2018, 03:11:18 PM
Knowing that these cover songs were live staples for a while does make it seem a little like they threw this one together a bit. That Buzz had a few songs written and they simply just decided to record the covers they had been playing to fill out an LP.

i think that's exactly what happened
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on February 14, 2018, 04:00:31 PM
Haters gonna hate.
Speculators are gonna speculate.
Magic 8 ball says not all things are as they seem.

At this point in their careers I do not think they just throw things together.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 15, 2018, 01:42:12 AM
At this point in their careers I do not think they just throw things together.
I think it depends what we mean when we say "thrown together". I didn't mean they just come up with this record on the fly in 10 minutes. Obviously the material will be considered and executed to their intentions. However i doubt it was deliberated upon or worked over for too long either. Now, of course a band don't need to meditate upon their new album nor does it need to be a rigorously tough process to record a record. But i think we all know what i meant.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: WGB on February 15, 2018, 12:45:37 PM
The real question is what the super limited version is gonna look like and how quickly can I give them my money.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on February 15, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
Hope there's a standard Ipecac vinyl release along w/ CD. I'll have the CD right away, can't wait. When's the $30 cassette version due out? :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on February 15, 2018, 10:01:18 PM
Three pages already and still no official streaming of at least one song?

And I'm still waiting for my AWWLAD CD, fucking chilean post office  :cry:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 16, 2018, 02:51:37 AM
I find myself intrigued by the 'Stop Moving To Florida' track. I wonder whether it is simply one cover song followed by the next like they performed it live, or an amalgamation of the two that may switch back and forth somehow.


Three pages already and still no official streaming of at least one song?
Im as impatient as the next guy when it comes to things like this, but in a way i don't want to hear a song prior. That ruined A Walk With... a little for me since we got to hear Christ Hammer so long before the release. Same applies to Basses Loaded and the EP's. When you finally get the record it loses some of that coherence or flow if you are too familiar with a song. Ideally i like to hear the whole thing front to back in one go. But at the same time i'll gladly take a stream of a song too!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 16, 2018, 06:39:56 AM
Im as impatient as the next guy when it comes to things like this, but in a way i don't want to hear a song prior. That ruined A Walk With... a little for me since we got to hear Christ Hammer so long before the release. Same applies to Basses Loaded and the EP's. When you finally get the record it loses some of that coherence or flow if you are too familiar with a song. Ideally i like to hear the whole thing front to back in one go. But at the same time i'll gladly take a stream of a song too!
Yep, it's a temptation hard not to give in but very rewarding if you can control yourself.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on February 19, 2018, 01:11:14 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3788272129_10.jpg)

https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/pinkus-abortion-technician

Stop Moving To Florida up on Bandcamp.


Sounds really good! Very thick sounding, vocals are kick ass.  =D>



Let’s get it straight, Howard Tate wrote "Stop".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlxbxcR1el0

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Howard-Tate.jpg)

Howard fell on some hard times but pulled it together.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 19, 2018, 01:45:59 AM
https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/pinkus-abortion-technician

Stop Moving To Florida up on Bandcamp.

Sounds really good! Very thick sounding, vocals are kick ass.
Yes. I was surprised that it's Steve who takes the prominent role with the vocals on the 'Stop' part of the track. I liked Pinkus' tones on the live tour versions they did so i expected it would be him instead. Personally i consider Jeff to have a better voice than Steve, still it sounded great. I think this one really benefited from them playing it live and knowing the song so well. I could leave out the 'Moving To Florida' part of the song. I never liked that one. Buzz sounds retarded. Oddly in a way this whole track reminds me of 'The Water Glass' - a rocking first part followed by an ill judged, emphasis upon spoken words second section.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 19, 2018, 03:02:22 AM
eight songs (as opposed to 12 or so) suggesting massive rumblers
This album is pretty damn short in duration. 37 minutes!

5:20   1. Stop Moving To Florida      
1:40   2. Embrace The Rub      
7:53   3. Don't Forget To Breathe      
5:47   4. Flamboyant Duck      
2:34   5. Break Bread      
4:06   6. I Want To Hold Your Hand   
4:38   7. Prenup Butter      
5:06   8. Graveyard
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on February 19, 2018, 06:52:25 AM
https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/pinkus-abortion-technician

No vinyl pre order?!?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Garnz on February 19, 2018, 06:55:46 AM
https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/pinkus-abortion-technician

No vinyl pre order?!?!?!?!?!?

Will hopefully come later.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: vince furnier on February 19, 2018, 07:04:04 AM
https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/pinkus-abortion-technician

No vinyl pre order?!?!?!?!?!?

Will hopefully come later.
that'll be on Merchaye and Amazon I bet
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on February 19, 2018, 09:12:56 AM
Stop Moving to Florida sounds so fucking good.

Really excited for this album.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on February 19, 2018, 12:43:46 PM
yeah, . i prefer the second part, i mean the butthole surfers cover. double bass attack sounds great
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Melvy on February 19, 2018, 04:41:47 PM
Stop Moving to Florida is fantastic and better than the original, instantly on repeat.

Definitely going to split the two tracks in half so one doesn't require the listening of the other.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 19, 2018, 05:08:49 PM
eight songs (as opposed to 12 or so) suggesting massive rumblers
This album is pretty damn short in duration. About 36 minutes!

5:20   1. Stop Moving To Florida      
1:40   2. Embrace The Rub      
7:53   3. Don't Forget To Breathe      
5:47   4. Flamboyant Duck      
2:24   5. Break Bread      
4:06   6. I Want To Hold Your Hand   
4:38   7. Prenup Butter      
5:06   8. Graveyard

GOOD. Short album is good.

Also Stop Moving To Florida is utterly sublime.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on February 19, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
It only gets tripper or creepier from here.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (PAUL) on February 19, 2018, 06:36:35 PM
I'm not sure which title I like better, Flamboyant Duck or Prenup Butter  :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on February 19, 2018, 10:18:15 PM
I'm not sure which title I like better, Flamboyant Duck or Prenup Butter  :lol:
Prenup Butter is one of my favorite plays on words in a long time.  Can’t wait to hear this!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 20, 2018, 04:15:19 AM
I'm not sure which title I like better, Flamboyant Duck or Prenup Butter
Neither myself. Just like their jokey songs, im not a fan of the jokey song titles. Most often when i excitedly read a Melvins tracklist for the first time, you will find me rolling my eyes a little.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on February 20, 2018, 04:54:59 AM
Most often when i excitedly read a Melvins tracklist for the first time, you will find me rolling my eyes a little.

I'm guessing you don't rate Piss Pisstopherson as a song title then? ;) Putting the low brow humor aside I think it's probably got more to do with having so many songs that they probably can't be fucked thinking up decent names for them, I even get that feeling a bit from their album titles.

Buzz: "What should we call album number 25?"
Dale: "Yeah eh um how bout Polka Dot Sledgehammer?"
Buzz: "Done. But I'm choosing the name of the next one in six months time"
Dale: "Whatever"

In saying that The Asshole Bastard is an awesome name for a song title. My mother's boyfriend is an old school Italian fella who gets worked up pretty easily and when he starts ranting about politicians or public servants he always refers to them as asshole bastards. They're not just assholes and they're not just bastards they're asshole bastards. I'm sure I remember Buzz in the 51 shows in 51 days tour diaries calling the government officials who came up with some train line in LA to the airport as asshole bastards too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 20, 2018, 05:03:23 AM
I think it's probably got more to do with having so many songs that they probably can't be fucked thinking up decent names for them
Yes. Like 'Hold It In', they said that came from a joke the band had. Like you note, they don't seem to take it too seriously, which is the extreme opposite of how i would be about it. 'Everybody Loves Sausages' in particular is one i absolutely detest!!


In saying that The Asshole Bastard is an awesome name for a song title.
Agreed! That's the odd thing with Melvins, some of their song/album titles are terrible while others are awesome. The Asshole Bastard is indeed an example of a great one. I like 'Pinkus Abortion Technician' as a title too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on February 20, 2018, 05:34:59 AM
Yes. Like 'Hold It In', they said that came from a joke the band had. Like you note, they don't seem to take it too seriously, which is the extreme opposite of how i would be about it. 'Everybody Loves Sausages' in particular is one i absolutely detest!!

IMO, Hold It In = bad, Everybody Loves Sausages = very good.

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I like 'Pinkus Abortion Technician' as a title too.

Me too, a cool name.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 20, 2018, 07:25:52 AM
GOOD. Short album is good.
I wonder if this is the start of a new trend with the band. The "Death" side of the last record was considered a "proper" Melvins album and that was only 38 minutes long. How about it, shorter Melvins albums from now on!!?!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Garnz on February 20, 2018, 09:10:05 AM
A CD bundle coming on Merchaye. I hope it is not a baseball cap again  :D

http://revolvemerchandise.shop/ipecac-music/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-cd-bundle
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on February 20, 2018, 10:32:53 AM
anybody going to call out Buzz's dog on the cover?      that is most certainly a portrait of the little scamp.   
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 20, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
anybody going to call out Buzz's dog on the cover?      that is most certainly a portrait of the little scamp.
I would say yes. I've often wondered whether the dog on the cover of Nude With Boots is one of his too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 20, 2018, 02:58:56 PM
Stop Moving To Florida is cool, but when they were doing Moving To Florida live Buzz did it with more gusto.
The delivery is not quite up to how he was doing it on that tour. On the best shows, anyway.
I think the high-pass filter on his vocals was a mistake as it killed some of that as well.

I still like the sound of these two a lot though.
The two basses sound great, the mix sounds different and good, there's even a few piano notes thrown in.
Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on February 21, 2018, 05:39:49 AM
I'm not sure if trying to capture Gibby verbatim was the right thing to do.   better to "Buzz" it a little. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: POOP GRENADE on February 21, 2018, 04:55:36 PM
Melvins are much better live actually
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: PepsiMike on February 21, 2018, 04:59:41 PM
I'm not sure if trying to capture Gibby verbatim was the right thing to do.   better to "Buzz" it a little.

Free suggestion: the Melvins need to release a buzz rant album, similar to the venom recording. "I'm not your fucking parents! Smoke pot! Stay off the stage!"
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (PAUL) on February 21, 2018, 06:44:27 PM
I'm not sure if trying to capture Gibby verbatim was the right thing to do.   better to "Buzz" it a little.

Free suggestion: the Melvins need to release a buzz rant album, similar to the venom recording. "I'm not your fucking parents! Smoke pot! Stay off the stage!"

Well Cowboy is kind of like that.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 21, 2018, 11:59:00 PM
I'm not sure if trying to capture Gibby verbatim was the right thing to do.   better to "Buzz" it a little.

Free suggestion: the Melvins need to release a buzz rant album, similar to the venom recording. "I'm not your fucking parents! Smoke pot! Stay off the stage!"

Well Cowboy is kind of like that.

Having Fun With The Melvins Live on Stage? Fuck it, I'd pay money for that.

(https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0002/308/MI0002308604.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on February 22, 2018, 02:29:15 AM
It's a good thing they're covering that Beatles song because those guys were the "worst musicians ever"
Just imagine what Quincy Jones would say about Melvins!!


If Quincy produced Bootlicker it would have been sexier than a Marvin Gay record AND it would've sold more too.


.......just sayin.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: vince furnier on February 22, 2018, 07:48:17 AM



If Quincy sharted in my mouth I would tell you guys it tasted like beluga caviar


.......just sayin.
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Post by: DToxico on February 22, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
I'm not sure if trying to capture Gibby verbatim was the right thing to do.   better to "Buzz" it a little.

Free suggestion: the Melvins need to release a buzz rant album, similar to the venom recording. "I'm not your fucking parents! Smoke pot! Stay off the stage!"

Well Cowboy is kind of like that.

Having Fun With The Melvins Live on Stage? Fuck it, I'd pay money for that.

(https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0002/308/MI0002308604.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)

Or like that Beach Boys album that's a bunch of banter and joke-covers meant to emulate bullshitting in their living room
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pringles on February 28, 2018, 06:47:23 AM
So I listened to the song Stop Moving to Florida and I was like "This sound familiar...."

I am a big Jimi Hendrix fan and I know Buzz Osborn is also a huge Jimi Hendrix fan.

Imagine my surprise when I found out Stop Moving to Florida is a cover of Stop by Jimi Hendrix
Listen at 1:25
https://youtu.be/D2rs4CBLCiQ
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 28, 2018, 06:57:20 AM
Imagine my surprise when I found out Stop Moving to Florida is a cover of Stop by Jimi Hendrix
It isn't actually. The Melvins state it is a cover of 'Stop' by James Gang which came out in 1969. Hendrix just covered it himself a year later. Although technically the song was actually wrote by Howard Tate and released in '68.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pringles on February 28, 2018, 07:02:25 AM
Oh yeah you are right

https://youtu.be/cCQ9d3WqDwo
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 28, 2018, 11:02:31 AM
More 'Stop' talk via the James Gang drummer.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/james-gang-jim-fox-melvins-stop/
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: sadcorps on February 28, 2018, 11:33:33 AM
Man, I should write (or edit) for Ultimate Rock. The Band of Gypsys version of "Stop" was not on the Band of Gypsys album released in 1970, but was released on "Band of Gypsys 2" released in 1986. Also, the Beatles cover should be noted that it is a cover of the Beatles "I Want to Hold Your Hand" but they are using the arrangement made by Billy Gibbons and his pre-ZZ Top band "Moving Sidewalks". It always drives me nuts when things are incorrectly written in music articles because it rewrites and confuses history. But hey - at least they are writing about Melvins!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on February 28, 2018, 12:20:01 PM
Also, the Beatles cover should be noted that it is a cover of the Beatles "I Want to Hold Your Hand" but they are using the arrangement made by Billy Gibbons and his pre-ZZ Top band "Moving Sidewalks".
Damn you're right! I thought it was Melvins who had re-imagined it like that.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pringles on February 28, 2018, 05:47:17 PM
Man, I should write (or edit) for Ultimate Rock. The Band of Gypsys version of "Stop" was not on the Band of Gypsys album released in 1970, but was released on "Band of Gypsys 2" released in 1986. It always drives me nuts when things are incorrectly written in music articles because it rewrites and confuses history.

Band of Gypsys refer to the name Jimi Hendrix gave to his band in 1969-1970.

Of course they released an album called Band of Gypsys.

A different version of Stop is also on the Live at the Filmore East album.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on March 03, 2018, 04:44:54 AM
Imagine my surprise when I found out Stop Moving to Florida is a cover of Stop by Jimi Hendrix
It isn't actually. The Melvins state it is a cover of 'Stop' by James Gang which came out in 1969. Hendrix just covered it himself a year later. Although technically the song was actually wrote by Howard Tate and released in '68.
And now we learn that not even Tate was the original author of the song :lol: Funny.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: >>>JZS<<< on March 05, 2018, 09:53:40 AM


 Melvins like doing covers, of covers, like "I wanna hold your hand".
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: crushr24 on March 05, 2018, 05:35:46 PM
This version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRz-0kpdjkk
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 06, 2018, 01:44:24 AM
This version...
That was pretty darn badass. Melvins won't be bettering that anytime soon!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Alex- on March 12, 2018, 10:08:19 AM
These were sold out within half an hour, who got one? http://hazexxltomhazelmyer.bigcartel.com/product/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-test-pressings-with-linocut-printed-sleeve

The regular version will be for sale in april.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: PepsiMike on March 12, 2018, 10:10:26 AM
These were sold out within half an hour, who got one? http://hazexxltomhazelmyer.bigcartel.com/product/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-test-pressings-with-linocut-printed-sleeve

The regular version will be for sale in april.
How do you know what time they went up?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Alex- on March 12, 2018, 11:23:17 AM
These were sold out within half an hour, who got one? http://hazexxltomhazelmyer.bigcartel.com/product/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-test-pressings-with-linocut-printed-sleeve

The regular version will be for sale in april.
How do you know what time they went up?

I didn’t knew. I was on Facebook and saw this posted by Haze half an hour ago when I checked. So it’s possible these went even quicker than 30 min, not sure.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on March 15, 2018, 12:15:20 PM
Japan CD pre-order:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/HSE-4548
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: vince furnier on March 15, 2018, 09:28:04 PM
where's the stream by now? one song even? hello?  :o
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 16, 2018, 03:23:31 AM
one song even?
Technically we've already had two!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on March 16, 2018, 04:49:45 AM
These were sold out within half an hour, who got one? http://hazexxltomhazelmyer.bigcartel.com/product/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-test-pressings-with-linocut-printed-sleeve

The regular version will be for sale in april.
"Art edition" or no "art edition", $400 for an LP is madness. For a test press, even.
Pure exploitation of collectors' mania.
Not even flippers charge this high.
I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 16, 2018, 04:56:08 AM
Pure exploitation of collectors' mania.
No doubt, but people don't HAVE to buy it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on March 16, 2018, 05:52:44 AM
"Art edition" or no "art edition", $400 for an LP is madness. For a test press, even.

That is one expensive frisbee.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on March 16, 2018, 06:02:40 PM
I will not partake in streaming online or sneak a listen until I have the CD. If I want to hear Stop/Florida until then, I'll crank the Syracuse '15 show. :wink:
 The week of 4/20/18 is gonna rule. New Melvins, and Neil Young has a new Archive release coming out that week - Live @ The Roxy '73(Tonight's The Night Live). Something to bundle up on and get free shipping that week.
 Pretty much the goldmine of live '70s Neil. Very glad that it's also a 2CD set. I refuse to pay the over-inflated prices for Neil's stuff lately on vinyl, RSD or otherwise.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on March 28, 2018, 06:58:16 AM
Sorry Chief. New track to preview.  :twisted:

https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/track/embrace-the-rub (https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/track/embrace-the-rub)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on March 28, 2018, 07:11:18 AM
Sorry Chief. New track to preview.  :twisted:

https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/track/embrace-the-rub (https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/track/embrace-the-rub)

YEAH, DUMBASS!!

I really like this! Kind of a weird Dead Kennedys / X vibe to it but that's only scratching the surface. This is a pretty cool song!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on March 28, 2018, 08:24:08 AM
Digging Embrace The Rub.
Good times.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 28, 2018, 10:16:52 AM
The song is okay. Not much else to say about it really.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 30, 2018, 05:44:04 AM
I still think it was a bit of a strange decision to combine Stop and Moving To Florida into one track. I've been listening to it again the last couple of days and it just feels like two separate songs. Like this record should be a 9 track one rather than 8. It's like an inverse The Maggot tracklist wise in this way.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on March 30, 2018, 05:43:53 PM
I still think it was a bit of a strange decision to combine Stop and Moving To Florida into one track. I've been listening to it again the last couple of days and it just feels like two separate songs. Like this record should be a 9 track one rather than 8. It's like an inverse The Maggot tracklist wise in this way.

Another great example is Set Me Straight transitioning to Deserted Cities of the Heart, which actually transitions smoother I must admit.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 31, 2018, 04:11:21 AM
Another great example is Set Me Straight transitioning to Deserted Cities of the Heart, which actually transitions smoother I must admit.
Yes. I had just got into Melvins a few months before Houdini Live came out and not being very familar with their songs (and definitely not Cream) i thought Deserted Cites WAS part of Set Me Straight.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on March 31, 2018, 07:05:11 AM
That change in Set Me Straight really ticked me off when I first heard Houdini live. SMS was one of my favorite songs on Houdini but i felt they had ruined it. Then pretty soon I liked that version better and still didn't learn in was the Cream cover till much later. It looks like it's title OCH on the CD anyway. And they play it almost twice as fast as Cream, so I was never going to figure that out on my own.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Mount Ambulance on March 31, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
Another great example is Set Me Straight transitioning to Deserted Cities of the Heart, which actually transitions smoother I must admit.
Yes. I had just got into Melvins a few months before Houdini Live came out and not being very familar with their songs (and definitely not Cream) i thought Deserted Cites WAS part of Set Me Straight.

Are you familiar with Cream now tho? You should be Cream is great man ... the S/T debut is such a great record with some of my favorite production ... that album sounds so good. All their stuff is tits ... Disraeli Gears has some of the finest wha wha finesse ever ... Clapton's leads and tones on that release may even better Hendrix imo ... Clap's fuzzy buzzy hummy lead tone on that record is pretty untouchable.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on March 31, 2018, 09:00:37 AM
Are you familiar with Cream now tho?
Not really. I haven't listened to them for a good while. I just about recall listening to Disraeli Gears before but i don't think i've heard anything else from them. As you suggest, i should correct that.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on March 31, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
Are you familiar with Cream now tho?
Not really. I haven't listened to them for a good while. I just about recall listening to Disraeli Gears before but i don't think i've heard anything else from them. As you suggest, i should correct that.
Live Cream Vol 1 and Vol 2. Those are the tits!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on March 31, 2018, 04:20:58 PM
Are you familiar with Cream now tho?
Not really. I haven't listened to them for a good while. I just about recall listening to Disraeli Gears before but i don't think i've heard anything else from them. As you suggest, i should correct that.
Live Cream Vol 1 and Vol 2. Those are the tits!

Live Cream Vol. 2 is the shit 8). Still have it on cassette, and LP. That one has more of their stronger songs w/ some sick soloing.
 Vol. 1 on the other hand has too much endless loose jamming that sort of goes nowhere IMO.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 01, 2018, 03:49:44 PM
look
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 02, 2018, 01:15:20 AM
That's a really cool looking design.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 03, 2018, 12:30:00 AM
Are you familiar with Cream now tho?
Not really. I haven't listened to them for a good while. I just about recall listening to Disraeli Gears before but i don't think i've heard anything else from them. As you suggest, i should correct that.
Live Cream Vol 1 and Vol 2. Those are the tits!

Live Cream Vol. 2 is the shit 8). Still have it on cassette, and LP. That one has more of their stronger songs w/ some sick soloing.
 Vol. 1 on the other hand has too much endless loose jamming that sort of goes nowhere IMO.
I love that loose jamming haha. But yet, I totally agree, the track list on Vol 2 is better.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 10, 2018, 08:16:55 AM
Some reviews.

https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/reviews/albums/the-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician
http://www.moshville.co.uk/reviews/album-review/2018/04/album-review-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician/
https://soundblab.com/reviews/albums/20050-the-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician
https://midlandsmetalheads.com/album-review-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician/
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 10, 2018, 08:35:00 AM
Some reviews.

https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/reviews/albums/the-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician
http://www.moshville.co.uk/reviews/album-review/2018/04/album-review-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician/
https://soundblab.com/reviews/albums/20050-the-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician
https://midlandsmetalheads.com/album-review-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician/
thanks! cannot wait for the full album now...
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 10, 2018, 11:21:08 AM
I'm guessing it'll be a 6.1 on the Pitchfork scale
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 10, 2018, 12:31:00 PM
Can’t wait (even more)!

Can’t stand unresearched journalism.  The Moshville writer states that Houdini and Nevermind came out the same year....
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (PAUL) on April 10, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Can’t wait (even more)!

Can’t stand unresearched journalism.  The Moshville writer states that Houdini and Nevermind came out the same year....
What???? They obviously weren't alive back then.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 10, 2018, 07:19:56 PM
One of the reviewers also said Dale started in 1988  :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 11, 2018, 07:28:10 PM
Can’t wait (even more)!

Can’t stand unresearched journalism.  The Moshville writer states that Houdini and Nevermind came out the same year....

They changed it to In Utero.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DToxico on April 12, 2018, 06:37:28 AM
One of the reviewers also said Dale started in 1988  :lol:

That's even worse than the way reviewers often call Dale one of the original members. At least that one is somewhat understandable, given his longevity and the fact the only album they recorded before he joined got shelved for 20 years. But 1988, wtf?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 12, 2018, 06:52:12 AM
Personally it doesn't bother me at all that people get little (or large!) factual points wrong. I don't want a history lesson in a review, i just like reading what listeners think about a new record. Hearing their "fresh", sometimes uninitiated perspective upon something im eager to hear myself.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 12, 2018, 10:36:02 AM
Can’t wait (even more)!

Can’t stand unresearched journalism.  The Moshville writer states that Houdini and Nevermind came out the same year....

They changed it to In Utero.
And it altered the storyline.  Mentioning Nevermind was their way of connecting it to the explosion of grunge.

Personally it doesn't bother me at all that people get little (or large!) factual points wrong. I don't want a history lesson in a review, i just like reading what listeners think about a new record. Hearing their "fresh", sometimes uninitiated perspective upon something im eager to hear myself.
I would agree if it was a straight review but with a band like Melvins it makes a little sense to tie in some history.  With the variety in their sound it helps to know a bit about their background for people new to them.  So if you’re gonna include stuff like that, do your research, especially on something as simple as the year an album was released.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 12, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
I would agree if it was a straight review but with a band like Melvins it makes a little sense to tie in some history.  With the variety in their sound it helps to know a bit about their background for people new to them.
Totally, i just meant i personally don't like reading it. Especially for bands im familiar with. I usually just jump right over the first paragraph in a Melvins review to the actual music talk.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 12, 2018, 02:30:57 PM
Somebody who has an advance copy of the CD posted the album details on Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Melvins-Pinkus-Abortion-Technician/release/11853924),
and looking at the credits it seems...
Buzz has written NONE of the songs on this album?! :shock:
Ummm............. I don't know what to think...
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: PepsiMike on April 12, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
Embrace the nub written by the McDonalds? Omg that makes sense.


This is more of a pinkus + Melvins ep, it looks like.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 12, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
Embrace the nub written by the McDonalds? Omg that makes sense.


This is more of a pinkus + Melvins ep, it looks like.
More like Pinkus + Dale, with one Steven song. Weeeiiiirrrrddd.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 12, 2018, 04:26:37 PM
Buzz has written NONE of the songs on this album?!
Ummm............. I don't know what to think...
I suppose it makes a sort of sense in light of what Dale said in an interview last year about how Pinkus turned up in LA and the band hadn't intended to make this recording. Had Buzz wrote a few songs i don't think it would automatically mean anything different though. I guess this news just allows me to look at this release like Everybody Loves Sausages or The Crybaby - a kind of cover or collaboration record. Something not to be taken too seriously.

Nice to see HAZE features on this album too! Some additional guitar work perhaps?


This is more of a pinkus + Melvins ep
Im happy with that. Some of Pinkus' songs on Hold it In were pretty good!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 13, 2018, 07:55:06 AM
Toshi did not get the credit of the weird Japanese piano thing he plays on Don’t Forget to Breathe.

So if Buzz nor Dale wrote the songs, is it really a Melvin’s record?

This was the one of the firsts I was talking about several pages back.

To bad they post all the credits like that.  I like when they give little info, like Pigs was.  With no info people blindly praise and hate a record.  Now they can play the blame game.  But so far the reviews have been pretty good.  This might earn some extra points on the pitchfork scale?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 13, 2018, 09:06:53 PM
Three Haze versions of the album. Tour, mail-order, art edition.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: amazonAMAZON on April 14, 2018, 02:22:38 AM
Having seen "I want to hold your hand" live twice already, the rest of the album could be dogs snoring and it would still be worth the pre-order. Just saying.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 14, 2018, 07:22:40 AM
So if Buzz nor Dale wrote the songs, is it really a Melvin’s record?
Yes, because it says so on the cover!! Being serious though, that concept has kinda been explored on Everybody... and The Crybaby. Although i guess one could say that Buzz did actually write 'Heathen Earth' on the covers record and many of the songs on Crybaby originated as Melvins recordings given to other artists. One could even throw Chicken Switch in there too as another possible example of Melvins not really being Melvins. Funny also to think that the Crystal Fairy album is technically more a Melvins record than this is!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 15, 2018, 02:45:18 PM
After many many times listening to "Stop" I only now realized the lyrics are slightly different
When I looked them up...

Quote from: https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/melvins/stopmovingtoflorida.html
Stop
I don't know the words
I think they're wrong
Stop
It don't matter jack
'Cause no one here
Really knows this song

Never knew how this song could be
Now this damn song's made a fool of me
My backstage is hazy
(One more time)
One more fucking band's gonna drive me crazy

Never knew how this song could be
Now this damn song's made a fool of me
My backstage is hazy
(One more time)
One more fucking band's gonna drive me crazy

WE'VE BEEN PLAYED LIKE A FIDDLE!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2018, 04:36:24 PM
So has anyone seen the the CD package itself yet? Jewel-case, or the over-sized "LP replica" style cardboa digipak? Hopefully they got away from those like "Hold It In" was. I'm hoping for standard jewel case which they did last for Basses Loaded.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 16, 2018, 09:28:02 AM
So has anyone seen the the CD package itself yet? Jewel-case, or the over-sized "LP replica" style cardboa digipak? Hopefully they got away from those like "Hold It In" was. I'm hoping for standard jewel case which they did last for Basses Loaded.
I'm hoping for the opposite, why don't you like digipaks?
Think we've discussed this before but I still can't understand why some people prefer jewel cases.
Personally I hate the excessive plastic. That which hides the artwork like it's behind a glass so you can't touch it, and that strip on the left, and the inevitable border around the whole thing.
(At least it's not on the front on most Melvins albums, thank Mackie and Buzz for that)
I don't like the tactile feel of plastic as well, thick cardboard is so much nicer.
I can only think of a few exceptions where the jewel cases' "shop window glass" effect was fitting to the artwork.
But other than that I feel like digipaks are superior in every way :?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 16, 2018, 09:57:34 AM
I've been having huge problems with the fully paper CD thing. Do they even measure CDs before they put these together these days? The CD should be in a removable sleeve, that it actually fits in as well as slides in and out. Then that sleeve should slide into the outer package, without needing the jaws of life to accomplish this task. Then, this entire package should not be ¼" to the" too big to fit in a case designed for CDs. Is that too complicated?  :x
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 16, 2018, 10:12:49 AM
That's why my way is perfect - do away with the packaging and just put the disk in a generic, slimline CD case. When i used to keep the cases it always bugged me to see bands use different style cases from release to release. Not any longer! Now i don't care. My other pet hate as regards CD packaging is cases (usually of the half card/half plastic variety) that hold the CD in place incredibly strongly. You try to remove the CD and it feels like the disk is going to snap in half before you can get it out. The Whores album i brought recently was a classic example of that.


I still can't understand why some people prefer jewel cases.
I think both are flawed. The cardboard digipacks definitely look better. They are more artifact like and as you say more suited to creative packaging. However i think these wear far quicker than your standard jewel case.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 16, 2018, 10:37:59 AM
Digipacks are a good option when the plastic tray is included. A CD or at least the side where the laser light reads the information should never, EVER get in touch with any kind of surface or object because I could scratch and damage the stored information in the long run, that's why the good old classic jewel cases are and always will be the best way to store a CD.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: amazonAMAZON on April 16, 2018, 12:04:23 PM
Fundamentally I support the idea of the CD amaray, like DVD packaging, if they made it square. The hard plastic of classic Jewel cases is ultimately bad for the art (booklets with those little teeth marks on the edge, or the crease where the case closed while the booklet slipped out. Amaray are replaceable, more flexible and more shock absorbent, and allow full cover art, protected and glossy.

The problem with digipaks is that the grip teeth in both Jewel cases and digipaks are essentially disposable. A jewel case where you can replace the tray is way better than a digipak with glued on tray that soon features crushed or chipped teeth.

For digipaks, ideally we'd have premium clear resealable plastic like many Japanese products are packaged. That would solve most of the digipak wear problem.

I hear that the liability on CDs (aside from deep scratches on the playing surface) is actually dye from cheap label ink (or bleeding inks from disc label touching any other art or packaging). Certain dyes and other harsh solvents over time will eat through and disturb the reflective surface from the label side, which can truly ruin the CD worse than most scratches.

I'm with you on the annoyance of oversized digipaks or ill fitting inserts. Or the worst... the CD just falls out of some unsecure pocket when you hold the digipak closed. Even worse that pocket is a roundish die cut half way through the art that makes putting the CD in or out feel like scratching it heinously.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 17, 2018, 08:36:02 AM
new chat with steven...
http://www.thevinylguide.com/episodes/ep120-steven-mcdonald-of-redd-kross-off-melvins-more
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 18, 2018, 04:50:42 AM
This is a good, thought provoking review. It makes a lot of good points and in a way, it's difficult to disagree.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2018/04/17/album-review-the-melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician/
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 19, 2018, 07:53:56 AM
This is a good, thought provoking review. It makes a lot of good points and in a way, it's difficult to disagree.


I find it quite easy to disagree with the review, the writer’s style, and your assessment that it’s good and thought provoking. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 19, 2018, 08:00:25 AM
Agreed, I'm biased, but the writing was terrible.  Does metalsucks hire hipsters?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DToxico on April 19, 2018, 08:17:39 AM
Yeah, that has to be one of the shittiest album reviews I've read in weeks.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 19, 2018, 08:38:29 AM
Agreed, I'm biased, but the writing was terrible.  Does metalsucks hire hipsters?

They started out as a parody site to Metal Sludge.
So I rarely, if ever, take them seriously.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 19, 2018, 09:38:47 AM
I find it quite easy to disagree with the review, the writer’s style, and your assessment that it’s good and thought provoking.
Well, it's not a great review in what one might think to describe one as. But i do think it raises a few interesting points. Or rather it did to me.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 19, 2018, 11:31:02 AM
Just heard the majority of this album (bar 'Flamboyant Duck'). Prior to listening i was on the fence of if to buy it or not. Thankfully i have to say this is actually quite a solid record. 'Don't Forget To Breathe' in particular is an undeniably cool song and the album highlight. 'Graveyard is a little slower than the live version i was used to hearing and loved but still good. Hey, perhaps from now on Jeff Pinkus should write ALL Melvins material!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on April 19, 2018, 11:36:39 AM
I've heard nothing beyond Embrace the Nub I mean Rub.     the above coming from as tough a critic as Ian,  I must say my interest has risen. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 19, 2018, 11:39:47 AM
I've heard nothing beyond Embrace the Nub I mean Rub.     
That's the worst song IMO. Everything else is better.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on April 19, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
I've heard nothing beyond Embrace the Nub I mean Rub.     
That's the worst song IMO. Everything else is better.

don't tell anybody I said this but I am glad to hear that.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: rictus on April 19, 2018, 11:59:50 AM
I should probably listen to this at some point.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 19, 2018, 12:09:34 PM
It's on youtube.

Graveyard - Good
Don't Forget to Breathe - Good
Break Bread - Good
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: rictus on April 19, 2018, 12:25:44 PM
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Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 19, 2018, 12:58:00 PM
It's on youtube.

Graveyard - Good
Don't Forget to Breathe - Good
Break Bread - Good

Yeah. I agree. Thought Prenup Butter was interesting too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 19, 2018, 02:12:29 PM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on April 19, 2018, 02:29:21 PM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.

you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 19, 2018, 02:39:58 PM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.

you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?

It is hard but this album is so different than the norm (and in a good way too) that I got to give it the edge yeah.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 19, 2018, 02:51:41 PM
ordered today
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 19, 2018, 04:10:09 PM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.

you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?

It is hard but this album is so different than the norm (and in a good way too) that I got to give it the edge yeah.

Oh shit....and Buzz did not write the songs.  I’ve said it before that I’m biased, but figured people would really like it, or really hate it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 19, 2018, 05:42:36 PM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.

you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?

It is hard but this album is so different than the norm (and in a good way too) that I got to give it the edge yeah.

Oh shit....and Buzz did not write the songs.  I’ve said it before that I’m biased, but figured people would really like it, or really hate it.

Not that it changes much, but according to the liner notes Dale and Buzz each have one writing credit.
Still very Pinkus heavy.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: runk the punk on April 19, 2018, 05:42:52 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhw84YZB1sd/?taken-by=otisserie

Quote
Melvins at practice, Ripping at all times, this is the heavy Vibe 2 Bass players live, sounds like, @stevenmcdonald and @teamhonky Gnar Like No Other! Don’t miss this up coming tour! Melvins Practice, Los Angeles, Calif. ©️2018 Video By O.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on April 19, 2018, 06:15:07 PM
ordered today

 I should have the CD tomorrow, or Saturday the latest, delivered. Still have not previewed any a/v online. Ordered from Bullmoose, along w/ the Hendrix - Axis.. mono '13 reissue LP for $18, which is really great. Longtime Hendrix fan/collector, never heard that mix, great to have.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 19, 2018, 06:24:41 PM
ordered today

 I should have the CD tomorrow, or Saturday the latest, delivered. Still have not previewed any a/v online. Ordered from Bullmoose, along w/ the Hendrix - Axis.. mono '13 reissue LP for $18, which is really great. Longtime Hendrix fan/collector, never heard that mix, great to have.

Bullmoose is the best.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 19, 2018, 06:35:14 PM
ordered today

 I should have the CD tomorrow, or Saturday the latest, delivered. Still have not previewed any a/v online. Ordered from Bullmoose, along w/ the Hendrix - Axis.. mono '13 reissue LP for $18, which is really great. Longtime Hendrix fan/collector, never heard that mix, great to have.

Bullmoose is the best.
Ditto. Agreed!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 20, 2018, 12:02:54 AM
only through my first listen now. but i can already say i love it and will love it more with every listen. this band rules so much!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 20, 2018, 02:03:32 AM
Holy shit this is their best album since Bootlicker.

I can't remember being this impressed with a new Melvins album since Bootlicker although Crybaby was the bees knees simply because of Divorced.

But yeah fucking AWESOME album and perfect amount of tracks.

For me it's ALL about Don't Forget To Beathe, Flamboyant Duck and Prenup Butter. In saying that all the rest aren't too shabby either....they start & finish the album with some hum-dingers too!

Well done Melvins!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 20, 2018, 02:05:04 AM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.

you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?


It POONS those ones BIG TIME.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 20, 2018, 02:12:46 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhw84YZB1sd/?taken-by=otisserie

Quote
Melvins at practice, Ripping at all times, this is the heavy Vibe 2 Bass players live, sounds like, @stevenmcdonald and @teamhonky Gnar Like No Other! Don’t miss this up coming tour! Melvins Practice, Los Angeles, Calif. ©️2018 Video By O.

I watched that for 5 minutes before I realized its a continuous loop :oops:. Good stuff!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 20, 2018, 02:35:10 AM
Holy shit this is their best album since Bootlicker.
i was thinking this, but too scared to type it...  :shock:
...maybe since HAT...
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 20, 2018, 04:00:44 AM
It's on youtube.
It's up on their Bandcamp page now too.


Graveyard - Good
Don't Forget to Breathe - Good
Break Bread - Good
And the rest?? Ha.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on April 20, 2018, 04:07:25 AM
Oh i love this album. Very Pinkus forward but with a great weirdness to it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 20, 2018, 04:10:26 AM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.
you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?
It POONS those ones BIG TIME.
Absolutely no way does it! Not a chance. Freak Puke is easily the best modern Melvins release. Although i have admittedly been pleasantly surprised by this record. With what Dale said about this album being "weird" and the rubbish 'Embrace The Rub' i totally feared the worst. Thankfully it's just a good Melvins record. As a whole, not amazing but good. As a collection it's better than '...Love & Death' and i'll take that. I'd give it a reasonably healthy 7.5/10. I just wish 'Graveyard' was a bit faster like that AV Club video and Embrace The Rub had been replaced with something else.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 20, 2018, 04:10:57 AM
Holy shit this is their best album since Bootlicker.
i was thinking this, but too scared to type it...  :shock:
...maybe since HAT...

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Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 20, 2018, 04:29:26 AM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.
you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?
It POONS those ones BIG TIME.
Absolutely no way does it! Not a chance. Freak Puke is easily the best modern Melvins release. Although i have admittedly been pleasantly surprised by this record. With what Dale said about this album being "weird" and the rubbish 'Embrace The Rub' i totally feared the worst. Thankfully it's just a good Melvins record. As a whole, not amazing but good. As a collection it's better than '...Love & Death' and i'll take that. I'd give it a reasonably healthy 7.5/10. I just wish 'Graveyard' was a bit faster like that AV Club video and Embrace The Rub had been replaced with something else.


Haha that's cool you have an affinity with Freak Puke but this new one pile drives it from the top rope.

The new one poons HAT too.......BUT.....if we were to consider the real HAT album as being the 7" set with the B-Sides then it'd be touch & go.

But for me....easily the best since Bootlicker. From now on only 8-9 tracks.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on April 20, 2018, 05:01:29 AM
I love this new album.

Couldn't care for some of the classic rock stuff (the two "singles") but the other songs are up there. Vocals are on point which is something that has brought down recent albums.
The banjo, Dale sounds like Dale, the experimentation, the bass. Top notch album  :love:

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 20, 2018, 05:06:14 AM
Have to say one of the absolute best moments on this record - possibly the best! - is when the guitar chugging riff kicks in on 'Flamboyant Duck'. That is awesome.


Best songs on the album...

Don't Forget To Breathe
Flamboyant Duck
Prenup Butter
Graveyard
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Jozzy on April 20, 2018, 05:14:50 AM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.
you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?
It POONS those ones BIG TIME.
Absolutely no way does it! Not a chance. Freak Puke is easily the best modern Melvins release. Although i have admittedly been pleasantly surprised by this record. With what Dale said about this album being "weird" and the rubbish 'Embrace The Rub' i totally feared the worst. Thankfully it's just a good Melvins record. As a whole, not amazing but good. As a collection it's better than '...Love & Death' and i'll take that. I'd give it a reasonably healthy 7.5/10. I just wish 'Graveyard' was a bit faster like that AV Club video and Embrace The Rub had been replaced with something else.
.

The new one poons HAT too.......

Not even a little bit.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 20, 2018, 05:19:47 AM
Have to say one of the absolute best moments on this record - possibly the best! - is when the guitar chugging riff kicks in on 'Flamboyant Duck'. That is awesome.


Best songs on the album...

Don't Forget To Breathe
Flamboyant Duck
Prenup Butter
Graveyard


Yep all killer tracks. Get rid of Break Bread and Embrace The Rub and extend the rest.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 20, 2018, 05:28:22 AM
I had been waiting to post this, but if you skip to 29:00 you get the banjo version of Don't Forget to Breath.  And his ayahuasca story when he wrote it.  Good version of 20lb jockey too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-wfyOXTII
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 20, 2018, 06:18:10 AM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.
you putting it over Freak Puke and The Bride?
It POONS those ones BIG TIME.
Absolutely no way does it! Not a chance. Freak Puke is easily the best modern Melvins release.

100% agree.
But this album is pretty fierce. Just not that fierce.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 20, 2018, 06:51:51 AM
Since they got two whole bassists on this tour...

Golden opportunity to do some of those Mike and The Melvins tunes live.
(Chicken n' Dump and Limited Teeth, especially)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 20, 2018, 06:57:33 AM
Since they got two whole bassists on this tour...

Golden opportunity to do some of those Mike and The Melvins tunes live.
(Chicken n' Dump and Limited Teeth, especially)
Good idea! I highly doubt it will happen though. They should do something a bit more special and unique rather than just roll out the old standards yet again.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 20, 2018, 07:03:54 AM
Been spinning this one since I got home from work yesterday. I think that this one, for me, will go down as their version of Diver Down.
Bunch of covers and some other cool originals to pad out the time. I know that Diver Down is not nearly as good as all the albums that came before it,
but I love that album regardless.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 20, 2018, 07:06:05 AM
I know that Diver Down is not nearly as good as all the albums that came before it,
but I love that album regardless.
One of my favorites as well.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 20, 2018, 07:15:01 AM
Official 'Don't Forget To Breathe' video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E33KoJYM7Rk
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Colonel Cheese on April 20, 2018, 07:43:38 AM
5 out of 5. Fucking awesome, this album rocks!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dwr budr on April 20, 2018, 07:47:18 AM
5 out of 5. Fucking awesome, this album rocks!

Fucking right it does!!! It reminded me why the melvins are the band to end all bands.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 20, 2018, 10:11:07 AM
The fact that it doesn't "sound like" Melvins is the biggest proof that it is, indeed, Melvins.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pound4abrown on April 20, 2018, 10:12:59 AM
One thing is for sure, what this band needs is some more Banjo.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: AxelFoley on April 20, 2018, 11:36:24 AM
Prenup Butter is effin' great. It's Southern Rock / This Machine Kills Artists with a more regular Melvins tinge. Buzz's vocals sound really great on this track, too. The other songs are also pretty good. See my avatar for my overall rating of this record. I'll be waiting now for the next "real" Melvins release, but this + AWWLAD contain some of their strongest material in years.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 20, 2018, 01:06:55 PM
ordered today

 I should have the CD tomorrow, or Saturday the latest, delivered. Still have not previewed any a/v online. Ordered from Bullmoose, along w/ the Hendrix - Axis.. mono '13 reissue LP for $18, which is really great. Longtime Hendrix fan/collector, never heard that mix, great to have.

great Chief!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on April 20, 2018, 01:55:16 PM
Nawh I’m movin down ta flory-DUH
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 20, 2018, 01:56:53 PM
Picked up the CD today.  Just need to find a CD player....
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on April 20, 2018, 03:53:34 PM
Yes!, this is as good as I expected, if not better. Prenup Butter might be my fave so far. Love the dark/heavy psych groove they've got going on throughout. Man, Pinkus better bring that banjo along on tour.
 Wanted to hear the album before getting show tix. Gonna order up  a tik for Cleveland here soon.
 On the CD package, it's the cheapest digipak style available, but at least it's a gatefold, and it's not the over-sized one like TMKA & Hold It In. I have my own stash of CD paper sleeves from Office Max for this situation. Luckily the paper sleeve does fit in the pocket.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on April 20, 2018, 03:55:08 PM

Man, Pinkus better bring that banjo along on tour.
 

THIS
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Mount Ambulance on April 20, 2018, 04:55:25 PM
In just over a week I will officially be "homeless" ... a man of no fixed address couch surfing a big wave of this fucking sucks! Right now I should be continuing to pack up my stuff and trying getting my shit together. Instead I unpacked my stereo and smoked a fatty so I could crank the shit outta Pinkus Abortion Technician. I'm a dumbass but the soundtrack to that dumb assery is SWEET!

Maybe I should move to Florida?

Best Melvins album of the decade.

Yup
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: blacksanta on April 20, 2018, 05:27:45 PM
JD Pinkus has an excellent backing band on his new solo record, which contains an unexpected Red Kross cover.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 20, 2018, 10:23:56 PM
"Break Bread" is hilarious, it could be perfect as music for a TV commercial.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 20, 2018, 11:02:41 PM
Best Melvins album of the decade.

FIGHT ME.

I'm just about on the first listen and I might be in the same boat. Eight solid tracks, perfect length, a hearty dose of weirdness without being bullshit, occasional heaviness and just a cool record.

Tres Cabrones might still be my favorite of this decade but this one isn't too far behind.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 21, 2018, 02:29:35 AM
"Break Bread" is hilarious, it could be perfect as music for a TV commercial.
If i have one complaint about the album (minus the duffer Embrace The Rub) it's that Pinkus repeats the words "break bread" a little too much for my liking in that song. It seems a bit too much. Something Melvins themselves don't ever really do - fixate upon a word or phrase. Interestingly i don't mind the repetition of the title in 'Don't Forget To Breathe' where i do in 'Break Bread'.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 21, 2018, 07:43:32 AM
Maybe it is telling you to go to church and find a good Christian girl?

I can’t think of one, and I’m on my first cup of coffee. But I don’t think the Melvins are big on choruses?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 21, 2018, 08:26:33 AM
Maybe it is telling you to go to church and find a good Christian girl?

I can’t think of one, and I’m on my first cup of coffee. But I don’t think the Melvins are big on choruses?
See: Set Me Straight.

They've mostly moved on from that era.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Mount Ambulance on April 21, 2018, 08:57:01 AM
If i have one complaint about the album it's that Pinkus repeats the words "break bread" a little too much for my liking in that song.

lol! Now every time I hear Pinkus go ... "Break Bread!" in that song I'm gonna picture Ian wincing and cringing ... and I don't even know what Ian looks like!

Hell all morning I've been puttering about singing ... "Break Bread!" and laughing at Ian wincing and cringing over there in jolly ol' England.

Sorry Ian.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 21, 2018, 09:42:48 AM
Hell all morning I've been puttering about singing ... "Break Bread!" and laughing at Ian wincing and cringing over there in jolly ol' England.
I'll probably say this in the wrong way, but to me that is one of those sort of bouncy, more "immediate" lets say songs. One that gives the impression it was fairly quickly written. So having this line repeated over the top adds to that flimsy feeling to me. It makes the song seem more throwaway with it than it should be. Like i say i could probably explain that better but that is the vibe i get when listening to the song. I'd say it's a half cringe on that one.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: 119 on April 21, 2018, 10:20:53 AM
I honestly cannot wait for this "era" of the Melvins to go away...if it ever does. I don't get it. This stuff doesn't blow me away like previous releases.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 21, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
I honestly cannot wait for this "era" of the Melvins to go away...if it ever does. I don't get it. This stuff doesn't blow me away like previous releases.

Agreed, this is a very ordinary album but I can't see old Melvins ever coming back. Three Men and A Baby with it's crunchy heaviness stood out like dogs balls compared to their recent output of quirky pop songs designed to tap your feet to. It's a shame but it is what it is, age.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: herb wilkinson on April 21, 2018, 11:15:44 AM
Yeah, I too wish they would just keep making the same albums they did when they were younger and totally different people again and again and never try different things
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: AxelFoley on April 21, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
I'll probably say this in the wrong way, but to me that is one of those sort of bouncy, more "immediate" lets say songs. One that gives the impression it was fairly quickly written. So having this line repeated over the top adds to that flimsy feeling to me. It makes the song seem more throwaway with it than it should be. Like i say i could probably explain that better but that is the vibe i get when listening to the song. I'd say it's a half cringe on that one.

I feel exactly the same. "Break Bread" is a pretty stupid phrase, anyway. Reminds me of some douchey 80's schlock-rock.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 21, 2018, 01:17:58 PM
Yeah, I too wish they would just keep making the same albums they did when they were younger and totally different people again and again and never try different things
=D&gt; first post!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 21, 2018, 01:50:38 PM
Well, maybe the last two albums are indeed a bit more soft compared to their previous stuff but I do believe that Basses Loaded has some pretty good and heavy tracks, like "Beer Hippy", "The Decay Of Lying", "Choco Plumbing" and "Hideous Woman" among others.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 21, 2018, 03:32:14 PM
Yeah, I was relistening to Basses Loaded recently and in retrospect it's actually a very damned decent album.

So what can I say about the new one? It's pretty neat.
It could have easily been an EP if you'd take out the cover songs, and that's pretty much how I view it.
But it would be quite a remarkable EP at that.


Overall, I like the album, but honestly I'm already waiting for the Steven era to end.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Mount Ambulance on April 21, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
pretty weird looking at the credits for "Embrace The Rub" and seeing the name ... Josh Klinghoffer, being dude is the current guitarist for RHCP an' all ... Granted he's played with PJ Harvey and PJ is the shit ... still kinda weird Melvins rubbing shoulders w/ that bit of LA musicalia.
 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on April 21, 2018, 06:36:52 PM
I honestly cannot wait for this "era" of the Melvins to go away...if it ever does. I don't get it. This stuff doesn't blow me away like previous releases.

Agreed, this is a very ordinary album but I can't see old Melvins ever coming back. Three Men and A Baby with it's crunchy heaviness stood out like dogs balls compared to their recent output of quirky pop songs designed to tap your feet to. It's a shame but it is what it is, age.

It's easier if you treat the newer albums like EPs. Never even made it through Break Bread, Stop moving to Florida, shaving cream, 99 bottles etc...next.... instant gratification era  :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 21, 2018, 06:58:13 PM
Just listened all the way through for the first time.  Fucking love it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 21, 2018, 08:02:06 PM
I've listened to it maybe 10 times now. Yeah I still stand by my statement that this is their best in years.

It is way more layered than their other newer stuff. Reminds me a lot of Stag, actually.

There is A LOT going on in the background of the songs.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 21, 2018, 09:21:15 PM
Well, maybe the last two albums are indeed a bit more soft compared to their previous stuff but I do believe that Basses Loaded has some pretty good and heavy tracks, like "Beer Hippy", "The Decay Of Lying", "Choco Plumbing" and "Hideous Woman" among others.

I like Basses Loaded too but it's more a compilation album than proper album of just left over songs from the various incarnations of the band.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 21, 2018, 09:23:23 PM
I honestly cannot wait for this "era" of the Melvins to go away...if it ever does. I don't get it. This stuff doesn't blow me away like previous releases.

Agreed, this is a very ordinary album but I can't see old Melvins ever coming back. Three Men and A Baby with it's crunchy heaviness stood out like dogs balls compared to their recent output of quirky pop songs designed to tap your feet to. It's a shame but it is what it is, age.

It's easier if you treat the newer albums like EPs. Never even made it through Break Bread, Stop moving to Florida, shaving cream, 99 bottles etc...next.... instant gratification era  :lol:

I came close to pressing stop during 'Stop Moving To Florida' and although the album did get better it wasn't much better.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: amazonAMAZON on April 22, 2018, 12:42:38 AM
"Don't Forget to Breathe" is the highlight on the first few listens. Stuck in my head all day.

I really hear the two basses in a few places to great effect. There's a place maybe in Break Bread or Flamboyant where I think Steven does an ascending fill that really works well against Pinkus (all that info could be wrong).

On "Prenup Butter" the first thing that stands out is the lowness and looseness. Are the basses both severely detuned? Just curious.

Went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. Whoever can't wait for the "Steven era to end" will probably be heavily disappointed. Even though Steven wrote just one song on here, I think he's an ideal collaborator for this band at this time.

Considering this is Pinkus's farewell record ostensibly, it's a really great show of his warped mind fitting perfectly in the Melvins fold. This record has me re-appreciating Hold It In and Basses Loaded where Jeff played, too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 22, 2018, 12:44:46 AM
"Don't Forget to Breathe" is the highlight on the first few listens. Stuck in my head all day.

I agree that is the stand out song on the album for mine and I like Prenup Butter too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 22, 2018, 03:15:24 AM
Considering this is Pinkus's farewell record ostensibly
I hope not! I like him in the band. Certainly far more than Steven and actually more than having Jared return too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 22, 2018, 03:50:32 AM
I Want To Hold Your Hand - well, I already loved it from when they played it on tour. This recorded version is very good, although the elongated ending doesn't feel necessary and I think the Adult Swim live version was slightly more melodic due to how the backing vocals were equally loud whereas here Buzz's take central stage.
One thing i find funny is when i listen to that song on the record i keep expecting to hear Steve shout out "yeah Buzzo" in one bit like he did when they performed it live. It's bugging me that i can't stop hearing that in my head!


It's easier if you treat the newer albums like EPs.
That's a good way of putting it and actually rather true. All the albums since Freak Puke have at least 4 really cool songs and then some filler. Perhaps i should start thinking of them more as expanded EP's than proper albums.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 22, 2018, 05:16:57 AM

  • Don't Forget To Breathe is another definite highlight.
    For some reason Jeff's vocal delivery reminded me of a bluesy take on...... dare I say the N-word here?.... Nirvana.
    It's somewhat depressing, definitely a feel-bad song. Like blues but without the stoicism.

Yeah I hear that, I got some strong Lane Staley vibes from those vocals
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 22, 2018, 05:18:11 AM
Perhaps i should start thinking of them more as expanded EP's than proper albums.

I'm in the middle of putting together a compilation CD for my brother of the best songs from the last 6 years of Melvins albums. Two songs from PAT will be on it.

Not technically Melvins but I forgot how good that King Buzzo solo album was.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 22, 2018, 05:30:08 AM
Not technically Melvins but I forgot how good that King Buzzo solo album was.
That's the best thing he's been associated with since Freak Puke IMO. I think that record shows Buzz can still write excellent songs. There is no doubt there. Imagine that material on electric with Dale and a bassist and that would be a brilliant Melvins album.


I mean, just look!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFPM81Cgeog
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 22, 2018, 06:17:53 AM
Yeah Buzzo's solo album was killer.
And I do like Pinkus in the band more than Steve.
Steve is a nice guy and fun on stage but his musical tastes (and ergo, influences) are pretty far from my personal preferences.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 22, 2018, 06:46:23 AM
Steve is a nice guy and fun on stage but his musical tastes (and ergo, influences) are pretty far from my personal preferences.
That's all it comes down to with me as well. I have no problem with him as a person. He's cool.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 22, 2018, 07:00:24 AM
Just listened all the way through for the first time.  Fucking love it.

haven't checked the new album yet, waiting for my copy to arrive.. though it's funny how every fan has a different opinion about it, makes me very curious
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 22, 2018, 09:21:16 AM
http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2018/04/19/two-bass-hit-an-interview-with-jeff-pinkus-and-steven-mcdonald/
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 22, 2018, 11:59:19 AM
Just listened all the way through for the first time.  Fucking love it.

haven't checked the new album yet, waiting for my copy to arrive.. though it's funny how every fan has a different opinion about it, makes me very curious
you will love it...
it is just a bit more beautiful than the navigli quarter.
it is also better than pizza.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: sadcorps on April 22, 2018, 02:37:58 PM
This is the most SOLID Melvins record for me since Bulls and the Bees. Amazing cover song choices, amazing originals - especially the ear worm that is Don't Forget to Breathe.

I think what a lot of people are experiencing with all of the recent albums is fatigue due to the amount of music that they put out now. It used to be, back in the day, you would get a really solid Melvins album or EP once every 1-2 years. This requires a band to be much more selective about what songs they record and release. The Melvins are now at a point in their career where they can be as prolific as they wanna be - they are putting out new records all of the time. They have a studio and engineer at their disposal whenever they want to record and two labels that will put out everything that they do. They are constantly writing music, recording music and collaborating with new musicians or doing solo projects and side projects (Crystal Fairy). By releasing what seems like everything that they are recording, the quality of the music is not going to be as high all of the time, but the quantity is sure up there. If they were in a position of only being able to put out a record or EP in the numbers of the late eighties and early nineties, we would probably see a much different selection of songs that reach our ears. I am not complaining, and I am certainly not going to tell Buzz and Dale how to run their show, I trust them 100%, but just think that is what is going on here. I would rather have TOO MUCH Melvins music than none at all!

All of that being said - this album kicks my ass.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: sadcorps on April 22, 2018, 02:38:40 PM
This is the most SOLID Melvins record for me since Bulls and the Bees. Amazing cover song choices, amazing originals - especially the ear worm that is Don't Forget to Breathe.

I think what a lot of people are experiencing with all of the recent albums is fatigue due to the amount of music that they put out now. It used to be, back in the day, you would get a really solid Melvins album or EP once every 1-2 years. This requires a band to be much more selective about what songs they record and release. The Melvins are now at a point in their career where they can be as prolific as they wanna be - they are putting out new records all of the time. They have a studio and engineer at their disposal whenever they want to record and two labels that will put out everything that they do. They are constantly writing music, recording music and collaborating with new musicians or doing solo projects and side projects (Crystal Fairy). By releasing what seems like everything that they are recording, the quality of the music is not going to be as high all of the time, but the quantity is sure up there. If they were in a position of only being able to put out a record or EP in the numbers of the late eighties and early nineties, we would probably see a much different selection of songs that reach our ears. I am not complaining, and I am certainly not going to tell Buzz and Dale how to run their show, I trust them 100%, but just think that is what is going on here. I would rather have TOO MUCH Melvins music than none at all!

All of that being said - this album kicks my ass.

I also might be full of shit too because Maggot, Bootlicker, Crybaby and COD all came out pretty quickly. What the fuck do I know?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 22, 2018, 02:40:16 PM
As more and more people listen to this record, I think it's important to note that voicing criticism of the band's current sound does not automatically imply that one wants the 90's back or that the Melvins should "return" to anything they have done in the past. Quite the contrary, venturing off into the unknown is a big part of what makes them great. It's just that trying something new or different can also result in a dud. This is a forum after all, so calling any and all critics whiny bitches, haters or nostalgic sludge worshippers is a little narrow-minded in my opinion.

That said, I like this record and it's refreshing to have some sonic layers to peel back this time around.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Michael Jordan on April 22, 2018, 02:54:08 PM

Overall, I like the album, but honestly I'm already waiting for the Steven era to end.

Couldn't have put it better...

I met Steven after the Orlando show last September as he came outside to smoke a cigarette while I was waiting for a cab. We spoke for 5-10 mins and I can say that he is a super nice, cool guy.

However, I also must say that I didn't like his fit in the melvins pretty much from day one, mostly on stage.

He brings in a more "poppy", clean vibe, which I probably wouldn't mind in bands who are NOT Melvins  :D

For me, Melvins (especially live Melvins) was always about heaviness, weirdness, something you FEEL, DIVE INTO, EXPERIENCE, rather than just watch or listen to.  The 2 shows I've attended with Steven on bass lacked that X factor, that elusive feeling that you normally get after a Melvins show. That "what the fuck did I just watch?" (in a good way) feeling...

The shows with Steven look more "professional" if u'd like, more of a "rock show" for the fans as opposed to standard Melvins which is "Anti-fans"  :lol:   it lacks that "fuck you" attitude, that uniqueness that distinguishes Melvins from other bands.

It really hit me again a couple of months back when that video of Night Goat with Kevin surfaced. I'd much rather see someone like Kevin on bass...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Geupgdfps

So yeah I agree about Steven  :).

I also agree that this is not a bad album, but I think it's far from being one of their best.

BTW apparently I'm the only one here who likes embrace the rub??
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: herb wilkinson on April 22, 2018, 02:58:37 PM
There is A LOT going on in the background of the songs.

I noticed this going through the songs for the first time, it really makes them worth re-listening to. I don't like PAT as much as Freak Puke (still my favorite release of theirs this decade w/ Bulls & the Bees a close second) but I'd say it's the best since that one. I feel like their last couple of releases (Basses Loaded onward) have all been getting better and better after a couple mediocre ones in-between. The only thing I truly don't like about the new one is the Moving to Florida cover, I just can't take Buzz's voice on it! I think my patience for some of the Butthole Surfers' stuff wore out a while ago and doing an even more exaggerated voice than Gibby Haynes' certainly doesn't help.


Went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. Whoever can't wait for the "Steven era to end" will probably be heavily disappointed. Even though Steven wrote just one song on here, I think he's an ideal collaborator for this band at this time.

hell yeah to all of this
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dead mike on April 22, 2018, 04:02:08 PM
Well, whatever one thinks about the new album, we can all agree that it is better than the new Tool album will be.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 22, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
Well, whatever one thinks about the new album, we can all agree that it is better than the new Tool album will be.
=D&gt;
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: 119 on April 22, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
If its any clue as to what exactly I'm talking about what I said about "this era" the last Melvins album that blew me away was in fact Freak Puke. There was not one bad track on that album. Yes I also think Buzz's solo album is awesome too. All the albums after Freak Puke have been hit and miss for me. There may 2-3 songs on each album I like but the rest of them not so much.

I'm ready for another Big Business/Melvins album honestly. If there ever will be another one...



 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 22, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
This is the most SOLID Melvins record for me since Bulls and the Bees. Amazing cover song choices, amazing originals - especially the ear worm that is Don't Forget to Breathe.

I think what a lot of people are experiencing with all of the recent albums is fatigue due to the amount of music that they put out now. It used to be, back in the day, you would get a really solid Melvins album or EP once every 1-2 years. This requires a band to be much more selective about what songs they record and release. The Melvins are now at a point in their career where they can be as prolific as they wanna be - they are putting out new records all of the time. They have a studio and engineer at their disposal whenever they want to record and two labels that will put out everything that they do. They are constantly writing music, recording music and collaborating with new musicians or doing solo projects and side projects (Crystal Fairy). By releasing what seems like everything that they are recording, the quality of the music is not going to be as high all of the time, but the quantity is sure up there. If they were in a position of only being able to put out a record or EP in the numbers of the late eighties and early nineties, we would probably see a much different selection of songs that reach our ears. I am not complaining, and I am certainly not going to tell Buzz and Dale how to run their show, I trust them 100%, but just think that is what is going on here. I would rather have TOO MUCH Melvins music than none at all!

All of that being said - this album kicks my ass.

I also might be full of shit too because Maggot, Bootlicker, Crybaby and COD all came out pretty quickly. What the fuck do I know?
Don't make me separate you two.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 22, 2018, 07:35:31 PM
I would rather have TOO MUCH Melvins music than none at all!

Very well said. Although I and others have quibbled the quality of the throw it all out there and see what sticks approach I'd much rather that than the 'old' days of getting a new album every 2 years or look at some mainstream rock bands only putting out a new album every 4-5 years.

There are plenty of awesome songs on these post-TBSM albums.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 23, 2018, 12:50:11 AM
I just can't take Buzz's voice on it! I think my patience for some of the Butthole Surfers' stuff wore out a while ago and doing an even more exaggerated voice than Gibby Haynes' certainly doesn't help.


I know what you mean, but it's grown on me and I really dig it now. I didn't like it at first because it seemed like Buzz was emulating Gibby.  After a few listens it dawned on me that this is Buzz performing a cover the way he wants to interpret it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 23, 2018, 12:51:18 AM
Don't make me separate you two.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 23, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
There are plenty of awesome songs on these post-TBSM albums.

He speaks the truth.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dirtmerchant on April 23, 2018, 01:07:19 AM
8 tracks, 3 of them covers. The rest of em written by Pinkus Or Steve. One track bearing Crovers name as well.  Yet I see people saying this is their best album in ten years? Really? Only proof of this being a melvins album is the band name on the cover. This is a Pinkus album wih a few covers,  lets be honest. I know it was said in an interview that it wasn’t planned and it was done really fast which makes sense after hearing it. Hopefully someday they will learn quality over quantity unless there is quality and quantity (the trilogy) I feel like some of the same people who say this is their best in a long time are the same people who say they love prick or think the second disc of a walk with love and death is amazing. Prick was a joke and the second disc of awwlad is pretty much the same. I know buzz said the second disc was hard to do but that doesn’t make it good. The original tracks aren’t horrible. I was really liking prenup butter til Steven came in with that horrid bass effect.  he used that same shit live on Amazon last time I saw them. Bass wah filter phaser filter what ever the fuck it is please someobe take it from him. I know they love playing with him but Jesus the dude Is a goofball and cheeses everything up on stage. I say that knowing the Melvins have a sense of humor behind everything they do.maybe they will do another album with Kevin since they jammed with him recently.  I don’t hate the album but it makes my head hurt to see people say it’s their best album in ten years. I’ll still buy the album to support them and keep them touring to my town  Sorry for all the yelling but they are one of my all time favorites , now when is the Haze Edition goin up on shoxop?😅
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 23, 2018, 06:42:36 AM
That bass effect on Amazon live ruled!!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on April 23, 2018, 07:25:35 AM
let's just say the pure unadulterated evil has been replaced with a healthy dose of hippy dippy and southern sass as of late. 

is it a good thing or a bad thing?    beauty is as always in the ear of the beholder.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 23, 2018, 07:58:45 AM
http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2018/04/19/two-bass-hit-an-interview-with-jeff-pinkus-and-steven-mcdonald/
I wish Buzz had got his way and insisted on the faster Graveyard. After hearing that badass live version, the studio one feels WAY too slow. It diminishes all the awesomeness from it!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 23, 2018, 08:26:28 AM
let's just say the pure unadulterated evil has been replaced with a healthy dose of hippy dippy and southern sass as of late. 


In addition to that, I think there is a bit of a dad rock element setting in. All of them keep emphasizing how weird and out there this stuff is when it's possibly the most vanilla sounding era of the band yet.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 23, 2018, 10:05:52 AM
All of them keep emphasizing how weird and out there this stuff is
True. Nothing much is really very weird now. It's more just WTF were they thinking.

I think something quite telling was in that recent Steve interview. He said Buzz is a huge contrarian. Part of me thinks all the recent Melvins output is Buzz' way of doing a complete 180. In going off and doing what no one really wants and standing by it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 23, 2018, 10:26:13 AM
let's just say the pure unadulterated evil has been replaced with a healthy dose of hippy dippy and southern sass as of late. 
Yep, exactly.

It actually reminds me of the episode of Metalocalypse where Dethklok fired their bassist for his nasty toxic attitude (that, and he didn't really play well - they ended up cutting out most of his parts out of the mix)... and after a while pleaded him to come back because without him their recordings ended up sounding too happy. Turned out even though he played poorly, his negativity was one of the key elements in the band's sound and recording process and they just couldn't cut it without him.

That "bite" is just something Melvins do well and it sorta seems to me like a waste of talent to do the vanilla stuff.

In addition to that, I think there is a bit of a dad rock element setting in. All of them keep emphasizing how weird and out there this stuff is when it's possibly the most vanilla sounding era of the band yet.
Right. I think Buzz either says so out of habit, or there's a disrepancy he doesn't notice between how it sounds in his head when he's planning it and how it turns out on record when the guys actually do it. I mean, the trailer for A Walk With Love And Death freaked me the fuck out, it was promising something really shocking. But a lot of the songs the actual album, at least the Death part, were inconsistent with that image. I'm wondering if Buzz doesn't quite realize how vanilla their stuff with Steven sounds and thinks they're still doing something extra weird.

He did admit in a recent interview he doesn't know what's shocking today anymore.
Maybe he just gave up on trying to go in the "twisted" direction of and just sticks with what feels good to him.

What's interesting is that Buzz can still write a mean song.
A lot, or even most, of the stuff with Dillard is just the right amount of wickedness.
Some songs on Hold It In were a great example.
Even with Steven, there are songs like Hideous Woman as well.
And the solo album.

I think they need someone who will influence them to go in a weirder and slightly darker direction.
Not in visuals - I'll pass on the dead bodies on the packaging, leave that to Unsane - what I'm interested in is getting that hard bite or heavy crush in the music.



http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2018/04/19/two-bass-hit-an-interview-with-jeff-pinkus-and-steven-mcdonald/
I wish Buzz had got his way and insisted on the faster Graveyard. After hearing that badass live version, the studio one feels WAY too slow. It diminishes all the awesomeness from it!
They should have done two versions like on the original Locust! What a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 23, 2018, 10:37:29 AM
I'm wondering if Buzz doesn't quite realize how vanilla their stuff with Steven sounds and thinks they're still doing something extra weird.
I think that is quite possibly part of it too. The band are too much in their own bubble. You only have to see an interview with Buzz when someone asks him about current bands or music he likes and he struggles to pick anyone. He just says Big Business and Le Butcherettes all the time and often says he doesn't follow music or go to shows. I get the impression he's just wrapped up in his own thing. Dale seems to be much more aware of what bands are doing and what is out there.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: glen on April 23, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
reality check.   they're (thereabouts) 50 years old. they're probably not interested in listening to new music.   Heck... I'm "thereabouts" the same age and probably a bit of an anomaly for pursuing new music. they're interested in paying their mortgage and raising their children.    and again.. I'm not trying to pick on them. I'm living the same shit except I don't get to make music to pay the bills.  God bless them for making MELVINS a career thing and not tucking tail and taking a job at the local megamart like 95% of their contemporaries.   but the fact of the matter in my relatable opinion is you change.  you mature.   you don't stay "GG Allin" forever unless you're GG Allin.      do we really want 30 years of Ozma and HAT (oo... dangerous question.  of course we do.) but you know what I mean.  its natural evolution.     I'll still here as a fan and customer.    at this point maybe the MELVINS and myself are more symbiotic than ever in our 25+ year relationship. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 23, 2018, 11:37:45 AM
Just listened all the way through for the first time.  Fucking love it.

haven't checked the new album yet, waiting for my copy to arrive.. though it's funny how every fan has a different opinion about it, makes me very curious
you will love it...
it is just a bit more beautiful than the navigli quarter.
it is also better than pizza.

 :lol: hey, i never asked how went your italian holiday?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 23, 2018, 11:54:28 AM
Just listened all the way through for the first time.  Fucking love it.

haven't checked the new album yet, waiting for my copy to arrive.. though it's funny how every fan has a different opinion about it, makes me very curious
you will love it...
it is just a bit more beautiful than the navigli quarter.
it is also better than pizza.

 :lol: hey, i never asked how went your italian holiday?
all good, milano was nice. we recently were in mantua which was also cool (my girlfriends mother family has its roots there). love italy!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 23, 2018, 12:01:14 PM
reality check.   they're (thereabouts) 50 years old. they're probably not interested in listening to new music.   Heck... I'm "thereabouts" the same age and probably a bit of an anomaly for pursuing new music. they're interested in paying their mortgage and raising their children.    and again.. I'm not trying to pick on them. I'm living the same shit except I don't get to make music to pay the bills.  God bless them for making MELVINS a career thing and not tucking tail and taking a job at the local megamart like 95% of their contemporaries.   but the fact of the matter in my relatable opinion is you change.  you mature.   you don't stay "GG Allin" forever unless you're GG Allin.      do we really want 30 years of Ozma and HAT (oo... dangerous question.  of course we do.) but you know what I mean.  its natural evolution.     I'll still here as a fan and customer.    at this point maybe the MELVINS and myself are more symbiotic than ever in our 25+ year relationship.

very good point... also do not forget buzz and dale (especially) are huge fans of that vanilla sound you guys are talking about. they are mad for stuff like Beatles, The Monkees etc.. so they are doing what they like, that's it!



Just listened all the way through for the first time.  Fucking love it.

haven't checked the new album yet, waiting for my copy to arrive.. though it's funny how every fan has a different opinion about it, makes me very curious
you will love it...
it is just a bit more beautiful than the navigli quarter.
it is also better than pizza.

 :lol: hey, i never asked how went your italian holiday?
all good, milano was nice. we recently were in mantua which was also cool (my girlfriends mother family has its roots there). love italy!

nice to hear man! Mantova is a cool city!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 23, 2018, 12:04:16 PM
they're interested in paying their mortgage and raising their children.
Buzz doesn't have any children!! He has dogs!

Both Glen and Stallion make good points there. I just wonder how much longer does this go on before it seems like their earlier releases were some kind of magical fluke?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: blacksanta on April 23, 2018, 12:55:02 PM
One thing I have noticed and bought into is the idea of the Melvins being more prolific at this period in time and hence lowering the quality of output. So discography check:

1983
1984
1985
1986: 6/8/10/26 Songs
1987: Gluey Porch Treatments
1988
1989: Ozma
1990
1991: Bullhead, Eggnog
1992: King Buzzo, Dale Crover, Joe Preston, Lysol
1993: Houdini
1994: Your Choice Live Series 012, Prick, Stoner Witch
1995
1996: Stag
1997: Honky, Singles 1-12
1998: Alive at the Fucker Club
1999: The Maggot, The Bootlicker
2000: The Crybaby
2001: Electroretard, Colossus of Destiny
2002: Millennium Monsterwork, Hostile Ambient Takeover
2003: Melvinmania: The Best of the Atlantic Years
2004: Neither Here Nor There, Pigs of the Roman Empire, Never Breathe What You Can't See
2005: Mangles Demos from 1983, Sieg Howdy!
2006: Houdini Live 2005, A Senile Animal
2007
2008: Nude With Boots
2009: Chicken Switch
2010: The Bride Screamed Murder
2011: Sugar Daddy Live
2012: The Bulls and the Bees, Freak Puke
2013: Everybody Loves Sausages, Tres Cabrones
2014: Hold It In
2015
2016: Three Men and a Baby, Basses Loaded
2017: A Walk With Love and Death
2018: Pinkus Abortion Technician, ?????


I tried to limit this to non-limited edition releases, stuff I could go to the record store and buy when released, either an indy or a good chain store (RIP Tower records). Some stuff could be considered limited because of the size of the pressing but was not intentionally a special limited release (ex: Six Songs). Compilations/EPs/Live Albums count, straight re-releases do not (hence Melvinmania, but not Bulls & Bees + Electro). In those parameters I disincluded Tora, Slim's 8 Track, The End, Making Love demos, vs. Minneapolis, Pick Your Battles, Endless Residency, Smash the State, Third Man, Steven EP, 12'" or 7" single or split,  and any AmRep limited edition ep whether new material or stuff that later got a wide release.

Based on those parameters and qualifiers, Pinkus Abortion Technician is the 45th Wide-Release Melvins title. There has only been 5 years since 1986 when the first EP was released that there has not been a unique Wide-Release Melvins title released to market. 1992 was the most prolific year with 4 unique releases, followed by 1994 and 2004 with 3 each. So, maybe it's not so much quantity but a change in style and perceived drop in quality - which is of course purely subjective.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: blacksanta on April 23, 2018, 01:16:28 PM
# of releases
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 23, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
reality check.   they're (thereabouts) 50 years old. they're probably not interested in listening to new music.   Heck... I'm "thereabouts" the same age and probably a bit of an anomaly for pursuing new music. they're interested in paying their mortgage and raising their children.    and again.. I'm not trying to pick on them. I'm living the same shit except I don't get to make music to pay the bills.  God bless them for making MELVINS a career thing and not tucking tail and taking a job at the local megamart like 95% of their contemporaries.   but the fact of the matter in my relatable opinion is you change.  you mature.   you don't stay "GG Allin" forever unless you're GG Allin.      do we really want 30 years of Ozma and HAT (oo... dangerous question.  of course we do.) but you know what I mean.  its natural evolution.     I'll still here as a fan and customer.    at this point maybe the MELVINS and myself are more symbiotic than ever in our 25+ year relationship.

very good point... also do not forget buzz and dale (especially) are huge fans of that vanilla sound you guys are talking about. they are mad for stuff like Beatles, The Monkees etc.. so they are doing what they like, that's it!



I hear you on all that, but (and I've said this before) it doesn't need to be traditionally heavy or edgy for me to enjoy it.
Shit, stuff like Black Bock or the Skin Horse outro are among some of the heaviest Melvins moments to me.

Oddly enough, their tenacity and fearlessness that I love so much seems to be turning on them. I always admired the fact that their same handful of influences has carried them over three decades of great music. But by the same token, they seem to be oblivious to a changing musical landscape. Now I'm by no means expecting them to throw a laptop and a sampler on stage to mix it up, but like ))))(((( mentioned, when it comes to new bands they seem to be completely blown away by shit like Tweak Bird and Les Butcherettes which always leaves me a bit puzzled. Sure, they make fine music but.....really?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 23, 2018, 01:56:45 PM
# of releases

I appreciate the rundown, I also think that they aren't obligated to churn out an album a year. I can't imagine that they'll go broke if they decide to work on a project for a year or two. There's always special releases and we buy anything they put out and go see them live regardless.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 23, 2018, 02:14:22 PM
If you take out the live albums, compilations like Melvinmania, and things like Chicken Switch, they have put out even less true albums.  Are they busy, yes, but are they that busy, I don't think so.

Funny to hear the complaints on graveyard.  I always liked the quaalude version.  I'm probably one of the biggest Butthole Surfer fans, but I'm not bitching about Buzzo skipping words in both songs.  They are on par with all of the covers they have done.  Shit they even made up funny words to Stop, which were pretty true...most people NEVER even heard of Stop, the James Gang <been a fan since I was a kid due to my sisters and their boyfriends>, much less the original.  At least it is not that gawd awful Gibby/Flaming Lips Smoke on the Water.

Glen is right: beauty is as always in the ear of the beholder
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on April 23, 2018, 03:43:04 PM
Finally got a few spins in over the weekend!

I would say the only one I haven't really gotten into yet is Break Bread...
Pretty solid album back to front though, Buzz & Dale have to be some of the best collaborators in the business, I love how their work changes depending on who they are playing with!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 23, 2018, 06:19:47 PM
Could you imagine if H.A.T. was released in the age of Facebook? Anti-Vermin Seed would be vilified and praised ad nauseum.

I think the discussions are great, and the opinions on P.A.T. all have merit. For me, I'm just going to enjoy it, and be excited about the tour. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 23, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
Could you imagine if H.A.T. was released in the age of Facebook? Anti-Vermin Seed would be vilified and praised ad nauseum.

Sure rather than pass in the night with not many noticing. HAT is pure unadulterated genius, I popped it on again last week and it still blows me away.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: herb wilkinson on April 23, 2018, 08:38:14 PM
some hardcore douchebag on a music site i frequent trashed h.a.t. really badly and inferred fans of it (and other melvins releases comparable to it) are "minimalists", like what the fuck are you talking about guy
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 24, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
some hardcore douchebag on a music site i frequent trashed h.a.t. really badly and inferred fans of it (and other melvins releases comparable to it) are "minimalists", like what the fuck are you talking about guy

He needs a good kick to the nut sack.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 24, 2018, 01:23:39 AM
8 tracks, 3 of them covers. The rest of em written by Pinkus Or Steve. One track bearing Crovers name as well.  Yet I see people saying this is their best album in ten years? Really? Only proof of this being a melvins album is the band name on the cover. This is a Pinkus album wih a few covers,  lets be honest. I know it was said in an interview that it wasn’t planned and it was done really fast which makes sense after hearing it. Hopefully someday they will learn quality over quantity unless there is quality and quantity (the trilogy) I feel like some of the same people who say this is their best in a long time are the same people who say they love prick or think the second disc of a walk with love and death is amazing. Prick was a joke and the second disc of awwlad is pretty much the same. I know buzz said the second disc was hard to do but that doesn’t make it good. The original tracks aren’t horrible. I was really liking prenup butter til Steven came in with that horrid bass effect.  he used that same shit live on Amazon last time I saw them. Bass wah filter phaser filter what ever the fuck it is please someobe take it from him. I know they love playing with him but Jesus the dude Is a goofball and cheeses everything up on stage. I say that knowing the Melvins have a sense of humor behind everything they do.maybe they will do another album with Kevin since they jammed with him recently.  I don’t hate the album but it makes my head hurt to see people say it’s their best album in ten years. I’ll still buy the album to support them and keep them touring to my town  Sorry for all the yelling but they are one of my all time favorites , now when is the Haze Edition goin up on shoxop?😅


The new album drops a GIANT DOOKIE on everything they've done the last 18yrs let alone 10. And if you want to call it a Pinkus album then mad props to him for giving Melvins and their sissy fans a good kick up the ass.
Oh and if Steve is too cheesey for you moaning toilet ghosts.....then STOP taking everything so seriously.....it's only rock'n'roll.....go drop some acid and see the world for what it truly is....people being in too much of a rush and taking everything WAAAAAAAY too seriously.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 24, 2018, 01:34:08 AM
Oh yeah and Buzzo ALWAYS envisions totally weirded out twisted music to make while sniggering and thinking to himself "wait'll the fans hear THIS weird stuff!!! It'll show'em how bad-ass we are!"

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 24, 2018, 02:27:18 AM
Helen, are you listening to the right record here??
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dirtmerchant on April 24, 2018, 03:50:17 AM
Oh yeah and Buzzo ALWAYS envisions totally weirded out twisted music to make while sniggering and thinking to himself "wait'll the fans hear THIS weird stuff!!! It'll show'em how bad-ass we are!"

Yea because covering the Beatles is so weird. If you really think this is better than anything they’ve put out in 18 years then you’ve either been in a coma or you’re trolling.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Buttcakefred on April 24, 2018, 03:54:40 AM
At this point for me (A) Senile Animal is the last great Melvins album.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 24, 2018, 04:54:20 AM
Oh yeah and Buzzo ALWAYS envisions totally weirded out twisted music to make while sniggering and thinking to himself "wait'll the fans hear THIS weird stuff!!! It'll show'em how bad-ass we are!"
Yea because covering the Beatles is so weird. If you really think this is better than anything they’ve put out in 18 years then you’ve either been in a coma or you’re trolling.
That was sarcasm.

Sure, Buzz did say they're not trying to be perverse. But that just means he's not going out of his way to make things weird.
They usually just come out weird naturally because he's a very eccentric person.
But for some reason that eccentricity doesn't come out to play much.

They're sort of got stuck in their comfort zone with Steven.

When Joe was in the band, his complaint was "we should be working on new material instead of just playing Kiss covers all the time".
Of course he exaggerated and he couldn't read Buzz's mind. He wasn't completely right, but do you see his point there?
When he joined the Melvins, their most unique current feature at the time was drone (Hung Bunny), and the sludge of Bullhead.
Joe no doubt wanted them to focus on that uniqueness and go forward with it, while seeing the classics worship aspect as regression.
See how this is again becoming relevant?

They say you should thank life not only for your friends, but enemies as well.
Joe might have been a pain in the ass, but he was also a KICK to the ass that didn't let the band get stuck in their comfort zone.
Steven is just straight up pandering to the classic-rock-worshipping side of Buzz and that seems to overshadow his weird adventurous side.

I think they're in need a younger, edgier bassist, with wider and/or different tastes.
Someone who can take them out of their bubble for a bit so they can get a fresh outlook and get inspired anew.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 24, 2018, 06:23:40 AM
This might be the first time we are really having this conversation about the band. I think it's good, this is a forum after all.
We are all aware that the Melvins do what they want, and I wouldn't want it any other way. It's not like we're running up on Buzz after a gig saying "what you SHOULD HAVE DONE is..."

Oh and if Steve is too cheesey for you moaning toilet ghosts.....then STOP taking everything so seriously.....it's only rock'n'roll.....go drop some acid and see the world for what it truly is....people being in too much of a rush and taking everything WAAAAAAAY too seriously.

I assume you're trolling or just plain ignorant.
I've seen them play with Steve 3 times in the last two years, I was never crazy about him joining because I find Redd Kross to be one of the blandest acts out there - but kept an open mind because I trust their sensibilities. Yes it is only rock'n'roll, but if you applied that logic to all of this, then why the fuck are you on the band's official forum let alone a thread on this album.

I'm not taking anything seriously, I simply don't like him. Two different things.

They're sort of got stuck in their comfort zone with Steven.

I agree, that's part of the dad rock I mentioned earlier. Every interview with Steven talks about the Rolling Stones over and over and over again.


At this point for me (A) Senile Animal is the last great Melvins album.

Nude With Boots for me
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 24, 2018, 07:37:23 AM
Nude With Boots for me

Agreed

btw I think all this discussion on the pros and cons of PAT, current style etc is all very healthy it's great.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 24, 2018, 07:43:27 AM
btw I think all this discussion on the pros and cons of PAT, current style etc is all very healthy it's great.
Same here. It's a nice change actually that now people are providing their opinion and both sides (or all sides!) can discuss this stuff rather than just be labelled a "hater" or excessively negative. I've always kind of bemoaned that usually this place just blindly laps up whatever they were putting out. Yet now i think it is quite telling (and interesting!) how perspectives seem to be changing a little.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 24, 2018, 09:40:10 AM
ALL the albums since HAT have been run of the mill and with the exception of the odd tune here & there predictable.

My least enjoyed Melvins stuff was ALL the Big Business stuff. Them live with Melvins was great but all those albums they were on just didn't do anything.

The only reason Freak Puke stood out a bit was due to the instruments used.

The new album is the most interesting thing they've done for years & years. If you don't think so then tough titties.

When it comes to the live shows....well it doesn't matter who is with them....they always kill it. Kevin & Mark D were my preferred bass players live & in studio but Steve is absolutely fine. As long as it's a 3 piece or a 3 piece AND Pinkus its all good.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 24, 2018, 11:12:55 AM
I shouldn't engage because we will forever disagree but are you seriously calling Pigs Of The Roman Empire, (A) Senile Animal, Nude With Boots and The Bride Screamed Murder run of the mill? That's a pretty exciting mill if you ask me.

Also, saying that that an album with almost as many covers as original songs is their best in years might be saying something about your general affinity for the band.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 24, 2018, 12:04:08 PM
At this point for me (A) Senile Animal is the last great Melvins album.

no doubt about that
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: PepsiMike on April 24, 2018, 12:32:11 PM
Different types of fans:

The one that loves the band no matter what, and gets offended at negative remarks.
The one that likes some things, not others.
The one that likes the band because others like them.
?
??
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dirtmerchant on April 24, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
I shouldn't engage because we will forever disagree but are you seriously calling Pigs Of The Roman Empire, (A) Senile Animal, Nude With Boots and The Bride Screamed Murder run of the mill? That's a pretty exciting mill if you ask me.

Also, saying that that an album with almost as many covers as original songs is their best in years might be saying something about your general affinity for the band.

Thank you. Yea all those albums are killer, like wtf? This guy has to be trolling. And that’s what I was trying to say earlier about so many damn covers and the rest of the songs not even being written by the Melvins. Break bread sounds like a damn honky song. I don’t mind Pinkus in the Melvins but I don’t care for Honky. Your “general affinity for the band” part is spot on. You said it way better than me.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Mount Ambulance on April 24, 2018, 12:34:30 PM
Different types of fans:

The one that loves the band no matter what, and gets offended at negative remarks.
The one that likes some things, not others.
The one that likes the band because others like them.
? Dogs
?? Babies
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: PepsiMike on April 24, 2018, 12:35:44 PM
Different types of fans:

The one that loves the band no matter what, and gets offended at negative remarks.
The one that likes some things, not others.
The one that likes the band because others like them.
? Dogs
?? Babies
:lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 24, 2018, 12:42:45 PM
I shouldn't engage because we will forever disagree but are you seriously calling Pigs Of The Roman Empire, (A) Senile Animal, Nude With Boots and The Bride Screamed Murder run of the mill? That's a pretty exciting mill if you ask me.

Also, saying that that an album with almost as many covers as original songs is their best in years might be saying something about your general affinity for the band.


Ah crap forgot about Pigs Of The Roman Empire. That did indeed kick ass.

And yes a Melvins mill on the run is a bit more exciting than most but that shouldn't exempt them from being called out.
I mean when you talk about comfort zone you can't help but think of the Melvins/Big Biz albums.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 24, 2018, 12:45:27 PM
Oh and Honky rules.....well the Melvins album that is Waka Waka Waka.

I'm a troll because I think some recent Melvins albums are pish compared to some their previous albums? MAN UP!!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 24, 2018, 12:54:39 PM
I got an idea guys.....let's argue about vibrations in the air that make us wiggle our bums & stroke our chins!  :cheers: :cheers: \:D/
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 24, 2018, 02:11:18 PM
It's not my intention to elude the current discussion but I would like to know if anyone has seen the RSD version of the album yet. I've been trying to find pictures of the aluminum version without any success.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 24, 2018, 03:28:16 PM
It's not my intention to elude the current discussion but I would like to know if anyone has seen the RSD version of the album yet. I've been trying to find pictures of the aluminum version without any success.
That was a joke, if you're referring to what I think. Aluminum version = regular cd.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 24, 2018, 03:47:37 PM
I mean when you talk about comfort zone you can't help but think of the Melvins/Big Biz albums.

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Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: amazonAMAZON on April 24, 2018, 04:45:42 PM
I love the Melvins uber-evil character, I think those songs have always been more frightening than pretty much any other music, even those that were labeled devil music or identified as such.

After inspiring a genre full of copycats with tracks like "Eye Flys" and "Hung Bunny/ROman Dog Bird" they continued to surprise me with chilling darkness like "Goggles," "At The Stake," "Divorced," "Mouth Breather," "They All Must Be Slaughtered," "The Fool, The Meddling Idiot," "See How Pretty, See How Smart." and so forth. These are all songs I would put on the mix for that guy's little brother that he's always mentioning.

I love that "Don't Forget to Breathe" taps into that without being at all a repeat. And that it's not even buzz's song. It ends up with a string section. It's one of the most adventurous things they've done since Freak Puke.

Elsewhere I hear echoes of the disturbed Melvins that I love so much, something that was rather absent from Death, ironically.

There's also some really cool sounds in "Prenup Butter" and "Flamboyant Duck"

I like that "Stop Moving to Florida" is not at all connected. I think it's a funny continuation of their assault on the traditional tracklist. I don't know the BHS (BS?) catalog well enough to reference the original of "Graveyard" or "Florida." I like Buzz's performance on "Moving to Florida" but I'm not stoked about the EQ and mixing on it until I turn the record up way too loud, which actually works well for the song.

I like that they were very honest about the album, its origins and speed to make. If it's only a stop-gap between two Buzz-penned albums then it's among the best we could have hoped for.

If you're over the age of thirty and you regret spending $12 for this album I seriously pity you. If you need to skip a song you can.

If you're under thirty you probably think all music sounds like an MP3 and have never bought an album anyway.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: linoleum blownapart on April 24, 2018, 04:48:39 PM
Break Bread was a Honky song written with Bobby and Dale. Honky did not use it, so the Melvins did.

All the Melvins albums have stinkers on them.  I think the only one that I will fully listen too without skipping something is the maggot.  And I retracked that one anyways, so to say it is cut up no wonder you don’t skip songs, is a wrong.

I guess i’m In the boat that likes some things but not others.  If I hear eye flies or youth of America one more time I’m going to hurl.

It is a pawty y’all, just listen to it and have a good time, or if you don’t like it, pass and not continuously bitch about it.  Or are you the troll?

I get it, to say it is the best in 20 years with half the songs being covers, is that a stretch?  Not necessarily.

I made a point awhile back, I’m biased, and said your will either really like it or really hate it.

To each their own. 

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 24, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
It's not my intention to elude the current discussion but I would like to know if anyone has seen the RSD version of the album yet. I've been trying to find pictures of the aluminum version without any success.
That was a joke, if you're referring to what I think. Aluminum version = regular cd.

The Record Store Day version was a joke? I thought it was real since it was posted as a message on the Melvins Facebook page... well, clearly my english is not that good.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 24, 2018, 09:55:06 PM
It's not my intention to elude the current discussion but I would like to know if anyone has seen the RSD version of the album yet. I've been trying to find pictures of the aluminum version without any success.
That was a joke, if you're referring to what I think. Aluminum version = regular cd.

The Record Store Day version was a joke? I thought it was real since it was posted as a message on the Melvins Facebook page... well, clearly my english is not that good.
Yup.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 25, 2018, 02:15:59 AM
I love the Melvins uber-evil character
Count me in on that also.


All the Melvins albums have stinkers on them.
Woah!! No way. VERY rarely any prior to Freak Puke.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 25, 2018, 04:31:42 AM
this is so funny  :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 25, 2018, 04:17:05 PM
this is so funny  :lol:
I made/posted that!

I cringe at my mistake spelling "few" as "fear" though.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 26, 2018, 06:15:08 AM
That is fucking brilliant!  :lol:

Also, PAT showed up in the mail today. He gets better with every listen.

PAT is a good boy. He may even be the goodest boy of this decade.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 26, 2018, 06:37:01 AM
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Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 26, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
Can anyone tell which song this was being recorded here then? Im intrigued as to which one it was and i can't for the life of me remember hearing that part on the album.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BPLgAZLj8sn/?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 26, 2018, 11:10:19 AM
Can anyone tell which song this was being recorded here then? Im intrigued as to which one it was and i can't for the life of me remember hearing that part on the album.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BPLgAZLj8sn/?
Fairly certain that is from Don't forget to breathe.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: h3r3t!c on April 26, 2018, 12:31:13 PM
I agree that Senile Animal was the last great album from start to end, since then it's been hit or miss for me mostly. Nude With Boots was nice but not super nice. I think they should've ended the Big Biz collaboration at that point. TBSM was meh. Bulls'n'Bees - okay, but not more. Not a fan of Freak Puke either, full of mediocre songs. Everybody Loves Sausages was really fun, but is obviously no regular album in the classic sense. I like Tres Cabrones pretty much. Not so much love for the Pinkus-influenced song on Hold It In, plus it sounds really flat production-wise, otherwise it's quite good. Never got into TMAAB at all. Basses Loaded is my favorite album of the decade so far, but I consider it more of a compilation. AWWLAD... read what I wrote about Freak Puke. Frankly lots of criticism here, but on the other hand I absolutely love them live, no matter which songs they play and they're still one of my all time favorite bands and I'd definitely rather have them release too much than too less!

Now to PAS: Definitely one of the better efforts recently! Stop is fine. Love their version of Moving To Florida. Cannot understand the dislike for Embrace The Rub, certainly far away from regular Melvins-style but I dig it nontheless. Don't Forget To Breath is cool, agreed on the resemblance to Staley's singing style. Flamboyant Duck could totally have been on Dale's solo album, first half is super catchy and sweet sounding, second half I consider rather boring and pointless. Break Bread and Prenup Butter are solid but nothing that will stay in my ear. I Wanna Hold Your Hand should've been more like the recent live versions but not much to complain about here really, good version. Unsure what to think about Graveyard. Overall experience is positive.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 26, 2018, 12:58:46 PM
Fairly certain that is from Don't forget to breathe.
That's what i maybe thought. Although i wasn't sure. I guess Prenup Butter is the only other possible one.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on April 26, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
this is so funny  :lol:
I made/posted that!

I cringe at my mistake spelling "few" as "fear" though.

ah, you made my day with that!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: squawx on April 27, 2018, 02:51:17 AM
The Melvins well of greatness is so bottomless, so rewarding that it doesn't feel right to flat-out dump on them. However, as much as I admire, respect the urge to experiment, PAT is not an experiment that paid off. Proof for me is when Buzz finally takes lead vocals. He has total command of his voice, seems to be interested in the sound and has always done so much with that sound, whereas Pinkus is a "singer", and a bland one at that. Generic bellowing at best. If I wanted to hear him sing, I'd get his solo album or some Honky. Anyway, Buzz will keep experimenting and we all will benefit. For me this one is a big miss, one I won't be buying, but shit, their track record is too great to bail out now.

Still, I cannot wait for him to lose that EGC guitar. The heft is gone. Same situation with Duane Dennison on the Jesus Lizard reunion shows. Those guitars are souped up banjos, they just don't cut it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on April 27, 2018, 08:37:52 AM
Flory-duh!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 27, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
I placed an order a few days ago at ImportCDs and none of the latest albums could be included because both Sleep and Melvins were -and still are- back ordered. I'm going to wait maybe around next month when (hopefully) the hype has decreased.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on April 27, 2018, 04:08:46 PM
Still, I cannot wait for him to lose that EGC guitar. The heft is gone. Same situation with Duane Dennison on the Jesus Lizard reunion shows. Those guitars are souped up banjos, they just don't cut it.
I'm no guitarist and don't study this stuff, but ever think that Buzz's sound has changed due to amplification/pedals, and not the axe?
 I'm always a fan of old-school tube amps & Strats/Les Pauls, but with Primus for instance I sort of miss when Ler used to sling the PRS. Not sure what exactly, but I know he changed amps from what he used in the '90s to now.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: mikewilliamson on April 27, 2018, 05:39:02 PM
Still, I cannot wait for him to lose that EGC guitar. The heft is gone. Same situation with Duane Dennison on the Jesus Lizard reunion shows. Those guitars are souped up banjos, they just don't cut it.

100% agree. Buzz's guitar tone used to sound incredible, but now he plays that squawk box sounding thing through a single half stack (the other half stack up there isn't even on) - The heaviness is at about 50% what it used to be. I didn't even buy tix to this current tour cuz their live sound has been pretty disappointing to me the last 5 years or so.  And I also agree with the criticisms of recent Melvins albums in this thread.  At this point, I'm buying them strictly out of habit.  I haven't listened to any of them more than a couple times really since SENILE.  They all sound pretty tossed off to me, especially the last few.

I'll always love Melvins but I haven't been really excited by the band in quite some time. (shrug)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: asesino on April 27, 2018, 05:43:25 PM
This album sucks ass. I couldn’t even get through all of it. I nearly fell asleep actually. Wish I had
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DToxico on April 27, 2018, 05:48:50 PM
Flory-duh!

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Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 27, 2018, 08:58:05 PM


100% agree. Buzz's guitar tone used to sound incredible, but now he plays that squawk box sounding thing through a single half stack (the other half stack up there isn't even on)
All of the speakers you see on stage are powered on. The two amp heads you see, one is strictly a backup. Watch the rig rundown.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 27, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
Final verdict is a "Highest possible recommendation". The record is just too damn fun not to pass up.

http://doodlehound.blogspot.com/2018/04/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician.html (http://doodlehound.blogspot.com/2018/04/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician.html)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: mikewilliamson on April 27, 2018, 09:42:51 PM


100% agree. Buzz's guitar tone used to sound incredible, but now he plays that squawk box sounding thing through a single half stack (the other half stack up there isn't even on)
All of the speakers you see on stage are powered on. The two amp heads you see, one is strictly a backup. Watch the rig rundown.

Yeah, I've seen the rundown, and seen him play live half a dozen times with this new setup.  He used to use multiple heads through multiple cabs, and they were face meltingly loud. The last show of theirs I saw (the Echo in LA last year) I was directly in front of his amp, front row, and I could BARELY feel the power. Time before that, at the Troubadour, front row in front of him and I could barely hear the guitar at all.  It's just a really weak setup for this style of music, whereas previously I may have pointed to his live gear as a reference point for how heavy guitar rock should sound.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: spliff(TONE) on April 28, 2018, 01:12:09 AM
Just heard the majority of this album (bar 'Flamboyant Duck'). Prior to listening i was on the fence of if to buy it or not. Thankfully i have to say this is actually quite a solid record. 'Don't Forget To Breathe' in particular is an undeniably cool song and the album highlight. 'Graveyard is a little slower than the live version i was used to hearing and loved but still good. Hey, perhaps from now on Jeff Pinkus should write ALL Melvins material!!

Easy now, let's not get crazy.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: spliff(TONE) on April 28, 2018, 01:27:56 AM
Considering this is Pinkus's farewell record ostensibly
I hope not! I like him in the band. Certainly far more than Steven and actually more than having Jared return too.

For live shows, I easily prefer Steven over Pinkus but kinda can't stand Steven's songs and lead vocals so far (both studio and live). For me, Jared blows them both out of the water both live and in the studio. I definitely miss the Big Business aided live configuration.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: spliff(TONE) on April 28, 2018, 01:45:34 AM
8 tracks, 3 of them covers. The rest of em written by Pinkus Or Steve. One track bearing Crovers name as well.  Yet I see people saying this is their best album in ten years? Really? Only proof of this being a melvins album is the band name on the cover. This is a Pinkus album wih a few covers,  lets be honest. I know it was said in an interview that it wasn’t planned and it was done really fast which makes sense after hearing it. Hopefully someday they will learn quality over quantity unless there is quality and quantity (the trilogy) I feel like some of the same people who say this is their best in a long time are the same people who say they love prick or think the second disc of a walk with love and death is amazing. Prick was a joke and the second disc of awwlad is pretty much the same. I know buzz said the second disc was hard to do but that doesn’t make it good. The original tracks aren’t horrible. I was really liking prenup butter til Steven came in with that horrid bass effect.  he used that same shit live on Amazon last time I saw them. Bass wah filter phaser filter what ever the fuck it is please someobe take it from him. I know they love playing with him but Jesus the dude Is a goofball and cheeses everything up on stage. I say that knowing the Melvins have a sense of humor behind everything they do.maybe they will do another album with Kevin since they jammed with him recently.  I don’t hate the album but it makes my head hurt to see people say it’s their best album in ten years. I’ll still buy the album to support them and keep them touring to my town  Sorry for all the yelling but they are one of my all time favorites , now when is the Haze Edition goin up on shoxop?<span class="emoji-outer emoji-sizer"><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://immhpnclomdloikkpcefncmfgjbkojmh/emoji-data/sheet_apple_32.png);background-position:59.9882491186839% 67.97884841363103%;background-size:5418.75% 5418.75%" data-codepoints="1f605"></span></span>


The new album drops a GIANT DOOKIE on everything they've done the last 18yrs let alone 10. And if you want to call it a Pinkus album then mad props to him for giving Melvins and their sissy fans a good kick up the ass.
Oh and if Steve is too cheesey for you moaning toilet ghosts.....then STOP taking everything so seriously.....it's only rock'n'roll.....go drop some acid and see the world for what it truly is....people being in too much of a rush and taking everything WAAAAAAAY too seriously.

To each their own but....lol no, not even close. I'm a complete Melvins nut and this record does basically nothing for me outside of Don't Forget To Breathe. Not enough Buzz and too many covers would be my biggest complaints.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 28, 2018, 03:08:02 AM
At this point, I'm buying them strictly out of habit.
Pretty much the same here.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: 119 on April 28, 2018, 08:41:14 AM
At this point for me (A) Senile Animal is the last great Melvins album.

no doubt about that




I agree but I admit that Freak Puke holds a special place for me too. So its tough. Everything after that has been hit and miss. Three Men and a Baby was brilliant though.


I could definitely make a great compilation of the songs I like since ASA and toss the rest.


Ultimately what this new album is, is an album of songs that Buzz and Dale as fanboys would want from some of their heroes.

Im not that big of a fan of Butthole Surfers.



 



Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 28, 2018, 09:04:42 AM
It's funny to see folks who don't frequent the rest of the board fall into the Helen83 troll trap!  :lol:

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on April 28, 2018, 12:37:23 PM
It's funny to see folks who don't frequent the rest of the board fall into the Helen83 troll trap!  :lol:


The honey trap.

Who is this chick calling us all sissies!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on April 28, 2018, 03:58:59 PM
lmao am I the only one here that still unironically enjoys them?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Oscar on April 28, 2018, 04:03:32 PM
lmao am I the only one here that still unironically enjoys them?

I enjoy the Melvins as much as I ever did, which is a whole lot. I just think they're going through a career lull.
Some of my lifelong favourites have dropped stinkers, still love em to death.

It's like being a Zappa fan in the 80s, I guess.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on April 28, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
lmao am I the only one here that still unironically enjoys them?

Nope, I'm also one. PAT rules, though I can sort of see why some might call it their "Diver Down". Bottom line, The Melvins are still making great music. It'll take most people 5 yrs to catch up with what they're doing, as it did with NWB, BSM, etc.

 It's like when Miles said "I've changed  the course of jazz like 4 or 5 times". Just substitute "jazz" for "punk/metal" & there you have the Melvins.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Topaz on April 28, 2018, 05:06:33 PM

Overall, I like the album, but honestly I'm already waiting for the Steven era to end.

Couldn't have put it better...

I met Steven after the Orlando show last September as he came outside to smoke a cigarette while I was waiting for a cab. We spoke for 5-10 mins and I can say that he is a super nice, cool guy.

However, I also must say that I didn't like his fit in the melvins pretty much from day one, mostly on stage.

He brings in a more "poppy", clean vibe, which I probably wouldn't mind in bands who are NOT Melvins  :D

For me, Melvins (especially live Melvins) was always about heaviness, weirdness, something you FEEL, DIVE INTO, EXPERIENCE, rather than just watch or listen to.  The 2 shows I've attended with Steven on bass lacked that X factor, that elusive feeling that you normally get after a Melvins show. That "what the fuck did I just watch?" (in a good way) feeling...

The shows with Steven look more "professional" if u'd like, more of a "rock show" for the fans as opposed to standard Melvins which is "Anti-fans"  :lol:   it lacks that "fuck you" attitude, that uniqueness that distinguishes Melvins from other bands.

It really hit me again a couple of months back when that video of Night Goat with Kevin surfaced. I'd much rather see someone like Kevin on bass...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Geupgdfps

So yeah I agree about Steven  :).

I also agree that this is not a bad album, but I think it's far from being one of their best.

BTW apparently I'm the only one here who likes embrace the rub??

Actually, I also like Embrace The Rub. You're not the only one.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on April 28, 2018, 06:07:22 PM
let's just say the pure unadulterated evil has been replaced with a healthy dose of hippy dippy and southern sass as of late. 


In addition to that, I think there is a bit of a dad rock element setting in. All of them keep emphasizing how weird and out there this stuff is when it's possibly the most vanilla sounding era of the band yet.

Heard it a few years ago too.

I mean it's totally understandable but glad someone else hears it too. At least it's not like rolling stones in the 80s or 90s or beyond.  :lol:

Reading through this thread was really interesting, as it's hard to pin down exactly what it is with the band in the last decade in terms of the quality of albums but it is telling that they are constantly looking at collaborations at this point.

I think the best thing would be for them to go finish off the next Fantomas or side projects for a few years, Dale has a lot more in him with his solo material and other side projects. Just take a break from Melvins and come back fresh after a few years.

Its not about heaviness or them releasing ozma again, it's just being able to get to that level again where what they were releasing was confident. I mean let's be honest, will people still be listening to Stag and HAT in 20, 30 years? Yes! These new albums not so much landmark or timeless in that sense.

I'm just an armchair critic of course and what would I know about music but the latest string of albums to my ears do not sound like the same impactful controlled output Melvins of past.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Topaz on April 28, 2018, 06:45:39 PM
Just some random thoughts and opinions to go along with this thread:

I'm what one would consider a Melvins fanboy. Some of their stuff that I couldn't really get into at the time (Big Biz trilogy, Bootlicker) I listened to over and over and developed an appreciation for it. I guess that's my keyword for this post: appreciation. PAT is far from perfect, too many covers, etc., but I appreciate it because it comes from the Melvins and their allies.

Shit, I'm just glad they don't release the same album time after time like AC/DC or Judas Priest do. On PAT, my favorites are Flamboyant Duck and Breathe. I'm glad they did the Butthole covers because it was a chance for me to get into the Surfers (I only previously knew Electric Larryland really).

I've only seen Melvins four times live (in two days it will be five!), so I've only seen Pinkus and Steve. I like Steve's jumping around and his energy onstage, but it does get old after a while. I prefer Pinkus' style of hanging back and plucking away with his beer within easy reach on a cinder block (at least at the Texas shows he does that).

I thought the Death album was a masterpiece (notice I didn't say AWWLAD). Melvins have lots of misses and things that don't work on their albums -- Barcelonian Horseshoe Pit comes to mind -- but I will always love and appreciate what they do because they're the fuckin' Melvins. I try to see those tracks as soundscapes and not just "songs."

I think their best album this decade is Hold It In (Yes, even though I said Death was a masterpiece). HII has the raw elements that I love. Pinkus' singing style sounds like a pissed off Buzz, in a good way.

By the way, does anyone else make Melvins shows into mini holidays from work? I'm taking one day off as a travel day (only 2 hour drive) and to see the show and another day to recover.

If Melvins seem in a rut or stuck in dad rock or whatever, remember, it's a pendulum. Sooner or later they'll be working with other people, and that pendulum will swing again. Just enjoy the music and have fun. That's what I do.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on April 28, 2018, 06:59:31 PM
^ Well said.

At the end of the day an off Melvins release is like an off Coens brother film - still better than majority of what's out there even if the experiment doesn't quite work or gets compared to their old work.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: spliff(TONE) on April 28, 2018, 10:51:26 PM
With so many talking about the spotty releases Melvins have had over the last ~decade, it has me wanting to start a new thread where everyone puts together their own 2010 and forward Best of Melvins collection that's no longer than 80 minutes.

Or maybe just do that in here?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on April 29, 2018, 12:37:05 AM
With so many talking about the spotty releases Melvins have had over the last ~decade, it has me wanting to start a new thread where everyone puts together their own 2010 and forward Best of Melvins collection that's no longer than 80 minutes.

Or maybe just do that in here?

I decided to make up a post-2012 compilation CD for my brother and gave it to him today. Even though it was meant to be the post-BB era and the start of the collaborative era I decided to start at Bulls & Bees rather than Freak Puke just because of how good I think that EP is and don't rate Freak Puke. I also decided to put the Bowie cover and a taste of the Buzz solo album at the end there for him too.

1. We Are Doomed
2. National Hamster
3. Psychodelic Haze
4. Sesame Street Meat
5. Chicken 'N' Dump
6. The Decay of Lying
7. Choco Plumbing
8. Phyllis Dillard
9. Euthanasia
10. Flaming Creature
11. Cactus Party
12. Don't Forget To Breathe
13. Prenup Butter
14. Station To Station
15. Vaulting Over A Microphone
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on April 29, 2018, 05:06:56 AM
everyone puts together their own 2010 and forward Best of Melvins collection that's no longer than 80 minutes.
Probably longer than 80 minutes but these are the ones that would be in contention for me.


The War On Wisdom
We Are Doomed
Mr Rip Off
Inner Ear Rupture
Baby Won’t You Weird Me Out
Worm Farm Waltz
A Growing Disgust
Holy Barbarians
Let Me Roll It
Romance
City Dump
American Cow
Onions Make The Milk Taste Bad
Sesame Street Meat
The Bunk Up
The Decay Of Lying
Beer Hippie
Captain Come Down
Hideous Woman
Planet Destructo
Black Heath
Sober-delic (Acid Only)
Euthanasia
Flaming Creature
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on April 29, 2018, 06:50:55 AM
That's a great idea for a different thread. We're talking about this new album here mang.  :D
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: agentcooper on April 29, 2018, 11:06:00 AM
well that was about 4 minutes to sell out.  Surprised it went that fast  :shock:  ...must be the album art
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on April 29, 2018, 11:10:39 AM
well that was about 4 minutes to sell out.  Surprised it went that fast  :shock:  ...must be the album art

Yeah, used to be you'd see the sell times posted here but now that they sell out so quickly...
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 29, 2018, 11:15:44 AM
Wait...what did I miss?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 29, 2018, 11:16:53 AM
Got one...  :D
4min and they were gone.
art edition going up next week, exact date tbc on amrep facebook.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on April 29, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Wait...what did I miss?

200 Green w\ pinwheel vinyl

https://www.shoxop.com/collections/brand-spanking-new/products/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-lp

There's definitely some version selling on tour, so I don't think this was the last chance to pick one up!

Edit: Oops see above  :P
...art edition going up next week, exact date tbc on amrep facebook.
If I hear about it I'll post the time here for the non Facebook people!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Godflesh on April 29, 2018, 11:24:38 AM
Snooze  :(
20 minutes too late.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on April 29, 2018, 11:25:39 AM
there will also be a "factory made" amrep vinyl edition coming in a few weeks.
this will be cheaper and easy to get.

the limited red variant is with the band on tour, and as mentioned before there will be an art edition going up next week.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: moose on April 29, 2018, 11:29:54 AM
Price was...?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: agentcooper on April 29, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
50$.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 29, 2018, 11:57:47 AM
Damn.  Was it a surprise?  Wish I would have known
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: agentcooper on April 29, 2018, 12:29:31 PM
follow Tom Hazelmyer's instagram and facebook. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 29, 2018, 02:15:35 PM
I don’t have an account on either.... :(
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on April 29, 2018, 04:25:43 PM
I don’t have an account on either.... :(

Sorry dude!  I don't either...the only reason I heard was because my wife has an account.

Next time I'll be sure to drop you a line if I get the heads up
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 29, 2018, 06:05:10 PM
I don’t have an account on either.... :(

Sorry dude!  I don't either...the only reason I heard was because my wife has an account.

Next time I'll be sure to drop you a line if I get the heads up
Thank you good sir!  Let’s hang out sometime soon.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on April 29, 2018, 11:15:44 PM
We need a support network here.  :lol:

I slept 8 solid hours today after work, and feel pretty good about it.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: agentcooper on April 30, 2018, 03:07:06 PM
Instagram is free and you can just follow others if you don't want to post stuff.  If you are on this website...its not a stretch to make the next step :). I follow a ton of bands/artists...currently its the best social media type of thing for keeping up on new shows, merch, etc. 

Here is Tom's last post, hinting at the art editions coming up. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on April 30, 2018, 11:33:39 PM
Ok, I see the logic behind the vinyl but releasing a CD with the same tracks as the Ipecac edition, I really don't see the point... the only difference is the artwork.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on May 01, 2018, 07:10:29 AM
just had my first listen of PAT.. what to say? i like it, especially the proper songs.. could've done without the covers, only one i really like is Stop Moving to Florida, without the James Gang part though. production, as for all recent albums, is the main complaint, especially speaking of Buzz guitar. favourite track is Don't Forget to Breath, very good! in conclusion, still love the band, they have some great moments..... this album would have been very good adding three more new songs instead of the covers.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on May 01, 2018, 08:59:16 AM
All is wish for is that they keep Pinkus in rotation for as long as possible. The guy is a great musician and a cool dude too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on May 01, 2018, 12:14:32 PM
only one i really like is Stop Moving to Florida, without the James Gang part
Wow!! I think i prefer Stop over Moving To Florida.


favourite track is Don't Forget to Breath, very good!
Yep. That's easily the best of the bunch.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Hot Pants on May 02, 2018, 05:28:21 AM


(https://media.giphy.com/media/shtvN1BhMN5bG/giphy.gif)

lol. this whole thread pretty much.

and i... still havent bought the album.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Colonel Cheese on May 02, 2018, 08:00:58 AM
doesn't get any better(cheaper) than this
https://www.shoxop.com/products/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-cd
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 02, 2018, 08:41:56 AM
Thank you good sir!  Let’s hang out sometime soon.

Agreed!  Long overdue!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on May 02, 2018, 12:48:38 PM
Flamboyant Duck now stuck in my head
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on May 02, 2018, 01:00:54 PM
Flamboyant Duck now stuck in my head
It is Dale that sings that one right? I can't really tell if it's Dale or Steve. Same goes for on 'Embrace The Rub' too.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on May 02, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
Flamboyant Duck now stuck in my head
It is Dale that sings that one right? I can't really tell if it's Dale or Steve. Same goes for on 'Embrace The Rub' too.

mmh, i think Dale on Flamboyant D. and both Dale&Steven on Embrace the Rub
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Stonergrunge on May 02, 2018, 02:26:32 PM
All is wish for is that they keep Pinkus in rotation for as long as possible. The guy is a great musician and a cool dude too.

This. At first I didn't like Jeff during his first live shows with the band, then I began to really appreciate the way he approached to the older Melvins' material and since "Hold it in" I like his style more than Steven's.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on May 02, 2018, 02:31:37 PM
Discounting bassists that won't ever return, this is my preferred order of Melvins bassist.

1. Kevin
2. Trevor
3. Jeff
4. Jared
5. Steve
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: rimb on May 02, 2018, 07:54:42 PM
doesn't get any better(cheaper) than this
https://www.shoxop.com/products/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-cd

Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on May 02, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
Discounting bassists that won't ever return, this is my preferred order of Melvins bassist.

1. Kevin
2. Trevor
3. Jeff
4. Jared
5. Steve

Mine Goes:

1. Kevin
2. Jeff
3. Trevor
4. Steve
5. Jared

Nothing against Jared at all but he just seems far less versatile than the others. That really isn't a bad thing, cause he really does what he does well.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on May 02, 2018, 08:58:23 PM
Jarod and Buzz vox were awesome.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 02, 2018, 09:54:38 PM
More PAT lps are scheduled to be restocked for the tour. What kind/cover? I don't know. When? I don't know.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (PAUL) on May 03, 2018, 12:55:16 PM
More PAT lps are scheduled to be restocked for the tour. What kind/cover? I don't know. When? I don't know.

Well then THANKS FOR NOTHING  :D  :P
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on May 03, 2018, 06:14:13 PM
doesn't get any better(cheaper) than this
https://www.shoxop.com/products/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-cd

Thanks for the heads up!

 I saw that the other day. Seems kind of odd that they'd put this up for sale, basically undercutting the standard Ipecac CD by more than half price. When AmRep recently did a $5 CD of Prick w/ new art, that made sense since they were both thru AmRep and the orig was out of print.
 Had PAT come out on CD first thu Amrep, I'd have grabbed it and not bothered with the Ipecac CD @ $12 or whatever it was. They probably figure most diehard fans who still prefer CDs will want the AmRep version w/ variant art too at that cheap price.
 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on May 03, 2018, 08:44:52 PM
I'd buy that CD if the international shipping wasn't so high to completely negate the cheap CD.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on May 03, 2018, 10:53:51 PM
Here's my take on the record:

https://www.punknews.org/review/15756/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Topaz on May 04, 2018, 08:01:25 AM
Flamboyant Duck now stuck in my head
It is Dale that sings that one right? I can't really tell if it's Dale or Steve. Same goes for on 'Embrace The Rub' too.

Flamboyant Duck is definitely Dale. It sounds like it could have been recorded during his solo sessions.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Topaz on May 04, 2018, 08:04:13 AM
A lot of people are hating on Break Bread. However, after I was able to get past the repeated "Break Bread" lines at the beginning, it's actually a good classic rock-style song. I'm liking it more and more.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on May 04, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
Art addition for sale soon?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on May 04, 2018, 08:20:33 PM
A lot of people are hating on Break Bread. However, after I was able to get past the repeated "Break Bread" lines at the beginning, it's actually a good classic rock-style song. I'm liking it more and more.
I genuinely like them all.  No complaints about this album at all. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: mrcatleg on May 04, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
Has anyone gotten their copy from Amrep? I haven’t seen a shipping notice yet and I’m getting a bit worried.....
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 04, 2018, 11:33:58 PM
Has anyone gotten their copy from Amrep? I haven’t seen a shipping notice yet and I’m getting a bit worried.....
You should have received it by now, I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 05, 2018, 12:59:59 AM
Art addition for sale soon?

No details yet, at least not on FB.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on May 05, 2018, 02:39:59 AM
Art addition for sale soon?

No details yet, at least not on FB.
check on haze' instagram. he posted a pic of the art edition where somebody asked in the comments "this week same place, same time?" and haze said "yes"...
so if nothing comes on fb i would check tomorrow noon CST....
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on May 06, 2018, 04:35:43 AM
Jared and Buzz vox were awesome.
I had only been into the band for a year when (A) Senile Animal came out and not knowing much about them, i didn't know it was two different vocalists on the album. I thought it was all Buzz! Very similar sounding and i guess complementary those two vocal wise.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GiveMe45 on May 06, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
Just double checking, is something going up for sale this morning?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 06, 2018, 10:36:19 AM
Just double checking, is something going up for sale this morning?

Not sure, I'm going to check at 10am (Pacific), just in case though.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on May 06, 2018, 11:04:44 AM
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0113/7252/products/image_thumb.jpg?v=1525402035)


Up now!!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 06, 2018, 11:07:16 AM
And gone!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on May 06, 2018, 11:07:59 AM
1007 PST Sold Out.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 06, 2018, 11:19:37 AM
check on haze' instagram. he posted a pic of the art edition where somebody asked in the comments "this week same place, same time?" and haze said "yes"...
so if nothing comes on fb i would check tomorrow noon CST....

Thanks Buddy!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Godflesh on May 06, 2018, 11:53:31 AM
I'm tired of always missing out on these  :(
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on May 06, 2018, 12:06:26 PM
check on haze' instagram. he posted a pic of the art edition where somebody asked in the comments "this week same place, same time?" and haze said "yes"...
so if nothing comes on fb i would check tomorrow noon CST....

Thanks Buddy!
:cheers:
good times! ...also if i look at the stuff you posted in "my recent purchases".
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on May 07, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
How much did the mega fancy art edition sell for?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 07, 2018, 08:27:45 AM
How much did the mega fancy art edition sell for?

$100
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on May 07, 2018, 09:16:40 AM
How much did the mega fancy art edition sell for?

$100

Damn! I wish I'd snapped one up!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: buddy holiday on May 08, 2018, 10:12:06 AM
arrived today... great sound, also this version has one of my favourite vinyl color combinations from amrep.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2lac1nt.jpg)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on May 08, 2018, 01:55:09 PM
 :D   :cheers:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on May 09, 2018, 07:06:04 AM
I didn't think it was possible but I have to admit Stop Moving To Florida has really grown on me now.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on May 11, 2018, 04:42:23 PM
I didn't think it was possible but I have to admit Stop Moving To Florida has really grown on me now.

love it!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on May 12, 2018, 03:39:12 AM
I didn't think it was possible but I have to admit Stop Moving To Florida has really grown on me now.
Well... im still waiting myself.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on May 13, 2018, 12:50:41 PM
A few ART editions are back up

https://www.shoxop.com/collections/less-than-10-left/products/melvins-pinkus-abortion-technician-lp-art-edition
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: agentcooper on May 14, 2018, 04:08:59 PM
I didn't think it was possible but I have to admit Stop Moving To Florida has really grown on me now.
Well... im still waiting myself.

I actually like this way better after listening to the record on my niceish home stereo.  Definitely Spotify through my laptop wasn't doing the album justice. 
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on May 21, 2018, 02:59:57 AM
Japanese CD has the usual insert and sticker as a bonus:

(https://image.ibb.co/bNg3y8/DSC03087.jpg)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dirtmerchant on May 21, 2018, 05:48:31 AM
Japanese CD has the usual insert and sticker as a bonus:

(https://image.ibb.co/bNg3y8/DSC03087.jpg)


Do all the Japanese versions have the stickers? AWWLAD had one included as well didn’t it?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on May 21, 2018, 11:13:53 AM
Love and Death did, and Basses Loaded came with some notes to the Japanese fans from each member of the band as well as the sticker.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: aeustin on May 21, 2018, 11:15:13 AM
Man, they get l the cool stuff in Japan.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Helen83 on May 22, 2018, 10:03:18 AM
Man, they get l the cool stuff in Japan.


When you drop an atomic bomb on a country the least you can do is sort them out with dope special edition records.

It's called reparations.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 22, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
When you drop an atomic bomb on a country the least you can do is sort them out with dope special edition records.

It's called reparations.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on May 22, 2018, 09:29:44 PM
Man, they get l the cool stuff in Japan.


When you drop an atomic bomb on a country the least you can do is sort them out with dope special edition records.

It's called reparations.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Bigval on May 31, 2018, 08:51:40 AM
Blabbermouth have reviewed PAT and gave the album 8/10.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/cdreviews/pinkus-abortion-technician/
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: deatheats on May 31, 2018, 09:31:57 AM
Blabbermouth have reviewed PAT and gave the album 8/10.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/cdreviews/pinkus-abortion-technician/

Nice! 

Looks like Pitchfork instead of giving the traditional 6.5 is simply going to ignore this release  :D
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on June 01, 2018, 03:24:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy6lURuEtM

Found this very interesting from Tarantino, interesting to listen to this while thinking of Melvins in a way.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: PepsiMike on June 07, 2018, 11:53:53 PM
Tony Bennett reviews pinkus abortion tech.

https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/entertainment/4433094-album-review-latest-melvins-album-lacking-several-fronts
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on June 08, 2018, 12:07:58 AM
Tony Bennett reviews pinkus abortion tech.

https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/entertainment/4433094-album-review-latest-melvins-album-lacking-several-fronts

He did a little Wikipedia research and never even listened to the album.

New discussion:

"Don't Forget to Breath" has really morphed into a completely different song after the first part of the tour. I attended the first show in San Diego, and the Strombo live is totally different.
Would be great to get an audio of Strombo for the commute.

This is just bad ass, a hallmark of their career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvSVXrkSfr4
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 08, 2018, 09:54:19 AM

Would be great to get an audio of Strombo for the commute.

This is just bad ass, a hallmark of their career:

 

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/f66d22422c094145e00e72eccbadd87920180608155019/324955b3ed1b643490b58c3d459d9fcd20180608155019/5db42f
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on June 08, 2018, 05:32:05 PM
sometime i think buttholeman is the coolest guy on planet


Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: (the) Razor on June 09, 2018, 04:01:33 AM
sometime i think buttholeman is the coolest guy on planet

Cooler than Dale? No way, not having that.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on June 09, 2018, 07:07:30 AM
sometime i think buttholeman is the coolest guy on planet

Cooler than Dale? No way, not having that.

two different styles of greatness  :)
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on June 09, 2018, 07:19:19 AM
sometime i think buttholeman is the coolest guy on planet

Cooler than Dale? No way, not having that.

two different styles of greatness  :)

Nicely steered, Stallone!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: black stallion on June 10, 2018, 02:44:57 AM
sometime i think buttholeman is the coolest guy on planet

Cooler than Dale? No way, not having that.

two different styles of greatness  :)

Nicely steered, Stallone!

Adriaaaaan
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: GrimReaper on June 11, 2018, 06:22:57 AM

Would be great to get an audio of Strombo for the commute.

This is just bad ass, a hallmark of their career:

 

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/f66d22422c094145e00e72eccbadd87920180608155019/324955b3ed1b643490b58c3d459d9fcd20180608155019/5db42f

This recording is top notch! Thank you BHM!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on June 11, 2018, 07:58:37 AM
This might not make any sense, but PAT is one of the most "playable" Melvins lps to date, I think. It's not in my top 5 (though I really do dig it), but if I want to listen to Lysol or Pigs of the Roman Empire, I kind of have to be in the exact mood for those albums, even though they are some of my very favorites. For PAT, I can just throw it on while driving and really enjoy it, no matter my current mindset. I also like how it is really shortly and speedy. It's kind of just a great, straight up rock record.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on June 11, 2018, 10:07:51 AM
This might not make any sense, but PAT is one of the most "playable" Melvins lps to date, I think. It's not in my top 5 (though I really do dig it), but if I want to listen to Lysol or Pigs of the Roman Empire, I kind of have to be in the exact mood for those albums, even though they are some of my very favorites. For PAT, I can just throw it on while driving and really enjoy it, no matter my current mindset. I also like how it is really shortly and speedy. It's kind of just a great, straight up rock record.
I know what you mean. It's way more immediate than many Melvins albums and like you say, a much easier listen.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 12, 2018, 11:28:01 PM
Yep one if the most fun albums start to finish. From the first sounds of forgotten lyrics to the last grinding beats of graveyard it sounds like it was fun to make and none of that was lost in the finished product.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Pringles on June 28, 2018, 12:44:27 PM
Don't forget to breath is growing on me.

That weird solo at 5:00 is something to behold.

It's like straight out of a 1960's stoner album, Children of the Mushroom, Iron Butterfly or Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 05, 2018, 03:50:37 PM
Five more variants coming soon.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: DToxico on July 06, 2018, 07:38:20 AM
People complain about them going full-on comic publisher with all the limited variant covers but I think it's a pretty cool business model that lets them connect more directly with the fans in a way. Why not keep doing it if people are willing to pay?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 06, 2018, 07:43:12 AM
It definitely reminds you of the comic book/variant cover phenomenon of the 90s.  The big question is, how long are people going to keep buying? Especially the variant collectors?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on July 06, 2018, 08:01:47 AM
It definitely reminds you of the comic book/variant cover phenomenon of the 90s.  The big question is, how long are people going to keep buying? Especially the variant collectors?

You make a good point. If you remember, when they first started releasing the letter presses/haze editions, things would go for crazy money on ebay/discogs -3,4,5 times the "sticker price". Now, they sell for just a little more than the price at the show. I think Melvins have basically found the "market price" and are charging that. I'm all for it so long as the fancy editions are nice pieces of art- which they seem to be some 10 years on. And, for the most part, everything is available as the standard $12 cd, too.

As for comic variants, one difference I see is that you could potentially collect all comic cover variants- there's basically no way someone could collect every Melvin variant unless he was not just rich, but REALLY rich. In a way, I'm glad that this happened. When they first started doing rare stuff around 2008, I was trying to get one of everything. Now that this is no longer a possibility, I'm happy to just get the stuff I think is really cool if I can get it. Honestly, it has relieved stress on my wallet and made it less of a "box ticking" affair and more of a fun collecting type thing.

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 06, 2018, 09:25:09 AM
Total PAT variants:
1/ orange vinyl/ edition 100
2/ black specks /edition 100
3/ yellow /edition 100
4/ black-yellow /edition 100
5/ white black specks /edition 100
6/ test press /edition 5
7/ first cover variant /edition 30
8/ mackie letterpress AP /edition 5
9/ pinwheel green /edition 200
10/ tour Haze cover (blackish vinyl) / edition ?
11/ Haze art variant gatefold /edition 100
12/ Mackie letterpress (blackish vinyl) /edition 22

Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: amazonAMAZON on July 06, 2018, 09:27:54 AM
Eh... I'd say just in vinyl b-sides there's a whole two albums worth that has never seen a CD. The HAT b-sides, the Sausages b-sides, Sawed Off, With Yo Heart single, Love Canal, Pigskin, Alleged
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on July 06, 2018, 10:26:19 AM
Total PAT variants:
1/ orange vinyl/ edition 100
2/ black specks /edition 100
3/ yellow /edition 100
4/ black-yellow /edition 100
5/ white black specks /edition 100
6/ test press /edition 5
7/ first cover variant /edition 30
8/ mackie letterpress AP /edition 5
9/ pinwheel green /edition 200
10/ tour Haze cover (blackish vinyl) / edition ?
11/ Haze art variant gatefold /edition 100
12/ Mackie letterpress (blackish vinyl) /edition 22

First person to get all the variants wins.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: ))))(((( on July 06, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
there's basically no way someone could collect every Melvin variant unless he was not just rich, but REALLY rich.
But why even bother though? Who is anyone going to impress just because they have all the Melvins merch. Who is really going to care that a person has every single obscure thing from a band that most people don't even know exist? In some ways i understand the appeal and why someone would like to own such, but in other ways it seems utterly foolish.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on July 06, 2018, 11:23:30 AM
there's basically no way someone could collect every Melvin variant unless he was not just rich, but REALLY rich.
But why even bother though? Who is anyone going to impress just because they have all the Melvins merch. Who is really going to care that a person has every single obscure thing from a band that most people don't even know exist? In some ways i understand the appeal and why someone would like to own such, but in other ways it seems utterly foolish.

Well, I can understand *wanting* to have them all. I love flipping through my records and looking at the weird ones while playing them. Collecting records brings me a lot of joy. It's not about impressing other people. It's about enjoying them as music and pieces of art. I'm just saying, at this point, collecting them all is basically impossible, so it kind of makes collecting them more fun as it's less a quest to get every single one and more a quest to get the ones you want the most.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: Garnz on July 06, 2018, 12:02:01 PM
Total PAT variants:
1/ orange vinyl/ edition 100
2/ black specks /edition 100
3/ yellow /edition 100
4/ black-yellow /edition 100
5/ white black specks /edition 100
6/ test press /edition 5
7/ first cover variant /edition 30
8/ mackie letterpress AP /edition 5
9/ pinwheel green /edition 200
10/ tour Haze cover (blackish vinyl) / edition ?
11/ Haze art variant gatefold /edition 100
12/ Mackie letterpress (blackish vinyl) /edition 22

First person to get all the variants wins.

Afraid you will end up only second? ;-)
Honestly: That comes close to the GPT variants that have hit the planet this year...
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on July 06, 2018, 12:09:05 PM
Total PAT variants:
1/ orange vinyl/ edition 100
2/ black specks /edition 100
3/ yellow /edition 100
4/ black-yellow /edition 100
5/ white black specks /edition 100
6/ test press /edition 5
7/ first cover variant /edition 30
8/ mackie letterpress AP /edition 5
9/ pinwheel green /edition 200
10/ tour Haze cover (blackish vinyl) / edition ?
11/ Haze art variant gatefold /edition 100
12/ Mackie letterpress (blackish vinyl) /edition 22

First person to get all the variants wins.

Afraid you will end up only second? ;-)
Honestly: That comes close to the GPT variants that have hit the planet this year...

 :lol:   I've got a bit of catching up to do later. Happy times!
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 07, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
Five of the PAT variants going up for sale Sunday, noon central time, at shoxop, $30 each.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: jules on July 08, 2018, 11:24:42 AM
tumbleweed
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: meezer on July 08, 2018, 01:12:57 PM
I woulda bought it if I weren't at breakfast.  :anonymous:
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: dirtmerchant on July 08, 2018, 03:53:44 PM
I was able to grab the whole set. I woke up just in time. I usually get a couple of practice runs in but I hit snooze and almost missed it. Surprised they weren’t sold out by time I got logged in and checked out.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on July 09, 2018, 08:48:27 AM
I missed this one. How much were individual lps selling for?
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 09, 2018, 09:04:43 AM
I missed this one. How much were individual lps selling for?
$30.
There's 500 of these floating around, and a lot were saved for the tour coming soon. It should be fairly easy to get one.
Title: Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
Post by: johnnyg on July 09, 2018, 09:35:40 AM
I missed this one. How much were individual lps selling for?
$30.
There's 500 of these floating around, and a lot were saved for the tour coming soon. It should be fairly easy to get one.

whoa! Cheap enough!