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Title: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 02, 2019, 06:35:51 PM
Coming in a few months. Possible Melvins/Flipper tour in the Fall?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: ))))(((( on April 03, 2019, 05:42:53 AM
Any idea what is on this release at all? New material i hope!! Whenever i see Haze is working on some new prints, it always gets me wondering what Melvins could currently be brewing up.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: buddy holiday on April 03, 2019, 06:21:15 AM
nice!

i hope too for new stuff, or even a collab, ideally on a 7". though 10" are also always nice.
but for the melvins side it could also be a reissue of the flipper covers... at least way of the world from the 12 x 7" series on amrep.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: DToxico on April 03, 2019, 06:57:18 AM
Flipper just recruited David Yow for a west coast mini-tour so I could definitely see this happening. Was bummed because a cross-country trip for a show is out-of-the-question so I'm especially hoping for a Melvins/Flipper tour if it brings them closer to my neck of the woods.

In any case I hope the split has new material. Or if it's reissued old stuff, at least make it something cool and lesser-known like the "Someday" or "Love Canal" covers instead of "Way of the World" (which I've never liked the Melvins version of at all)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Captain CoryCory on April 03, 2019, 08:10:24 AM
A Flipper/Melvins tour would be utterly mental
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 03, 2019, 10:42:09 AM
Flipper?....David Yow?!?!!  :shock:.....and........Melvins?!?!?  :buzz:

Why do I love Flipper, why why why...., why are they so good?!?! they can hardly play but don't give a fuck....It's Just.... It's GOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: (PAUL) on April 03, 2019, 12:51:16 PM
Buzz talks about Generic Flipper as one of his favorite grunge albums and said this:
Quote
We just got done recording with Steve [DePace] and Ted [Falconi]; we wrote a new Flipper song with them, and it was an honor to play with those guys.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Tobias on April 03, 2019, 05:24:48 PM
Saw this on Flippers facebook
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156933911800460&id=32047285459&__tn__=%2As%2As-R
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: WGB on April 04, 2019, 11:09:52 AM
Flipper was on the uk tour in 2010, Krist Novoselic was playing for them and was really bad. They did a we are the world version of Sacrifice which was really good.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 04, 2019, 10:08:28 PM
Flipper was on the uk tour in 2010, Krist Novoselic was playing for them and was really bad. They did a we are the world version of Sacrifice which was really good.

They've had 10 years basically since then, I'm sure they got their shit together by now.

This will probably be...no....GOING to be....Worth the wait.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Nizamark on April 04, 2019, 10:42:19 PM
mudhoney+melvins+flipper in LA '07 was a show for the ages

(http://www.dking-gallery.com/pix/JC/JC_melvins.jpg)

melvins did houdini. mudhoney did superfuzz/bigmuff.
novoselic played with flipper.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: WGB on April 05, 2019, 04:21:02 AM
Flipper was on the uk tour in 2010, Krist Novoselic was playing for them and was really bad. They did a we are the world version of Sacrifice which was really good.

They've had 10 years basically since then, I'm sure they got their shit together by now.

This will probably be...no....GOING to be....Worth the wait.

They were great the next tour with Rachel Thoele on bass, it was Krist that was really bad. At one point they took the bass off him to teach him the riff.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: laptop sorcery on April 05, 2019, 04:47:15 PM
http://bossanovaballroom.com/show/flipper-with-david-yow-in-portland/
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 05, 2019, 11:36:30 PM
Flipper was on the uk tour in 2010, Krist Novoselic was playing for them and was really bad. They did a we are the world version of Sacrifice which was really good.

They've had 10 years basically since then, I'm sure they got their shit together by now.

This will probably be...no....GOING to be....Worth the wait.

They were great the next tour with Rachel Thoele on bass, it was Krist that was really bad. At one point they took the bass off him to teach him the riff.


..It's a total last minute thing, Guys happen to have busy schedules...I'm going to defend Krist, probly wasn't his fault man, circumstantial happenings, I wasn't there but I know how it goes trying to get people together for a gig.

Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: meezer on April 06, 2019, 12:50:55 AM
There's video. Is he playing the right notes? I guess. Does it sound good?  :?

https://youtu.be/KACOwlU58QQ
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Alex- on April 06, 2019, 07:43:56 AM
This is really good news, hopefully it's something totally new but Melvins playing older Flipper songs would be a treat as well. It will be a 10 inch btw, not sure if that has been mentioned here before, don't think so.

I've seen Flipper with Bruce and Rachel in 2012, and that was great. Apparently Flipper with Yow will be coming over to Europe this summer, Flipper confirmed this on Facebook.. I've heard that Mike Watt will be joining them on bass. Really excited to see them with this lineup.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: PepsiMike on April 06, 2019, 09:51:26 AM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on April 06, 2019, 10:52:24 AM
Watt is so overqualified for this gig, but hey I'd love to see that.

How many Flipper covers have the melvins released at this point? Five maybe? I'd be happy if they revisit Love Canal but I don't need new versions of Sacrifice or Way of the World. I'm suspicious of Buzz writing new Flipper songs, but only suspicious in that they'd come out as Melvins songs which pleases me.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 06, 2019, 04:32:56 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.


what happened to Bruce?

Anyway if you can't play flipper, you have flippers for hands.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: PepsiMike on April 06, 2019, 06:14:34 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.


what happened to Bruce?

Anyway if you can't play flipper, you have flippers for hands.
Check out his Facebook page. From what I've seen, he's had problems with his back, and possibly pain medicine. I think it probably contributed to him getting kicked out. He's still bitter about everything.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 07, 2019, 04:04:33 AM
Pain meds make you a pretty bitter person to say the very least....or...rather...the lack of pain meds.

I don't have facebook...I have better ways to stalk people.  :lol:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pinky Ramone on April 08, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.


what happened to Bruce?

Anyway if you can't play flipper, you have flippers for hands.
Check out his Facebook page. From what I've seen, he's had problems with his back, and possibly pain medicine. I think it probably contributed to him getting kicked out. He's still bitter about everything.

He's fucking nuts and I say good riddance! Played in a band that opened for Flipper with Krist playing bass and he played just fine and was an overall great guy.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 08, 2019, 05:26:35 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.


what happened to Bruce?

Anyway if you can't play flipper, you have flippers for hands.
Check out his ass. From what I've seen, he's had problems with his spastic colon record and possibly Turntable. I think it probably contributed to him getting kicked in the nuts. He's still right about everything.

I'm fucking nuts and I say good riddance! In my dreams I Played in a band that opened for Flipper with Krist playing accordion and he played naked and was an overall sexy guy.

Fixed

Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pinky Ramone on April 13, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.


what happened to Bruce?

Anyway if you can't play flipper, you have flippers for hands.
Check out his ass. From what I've seen, he's had problems with his spastic colon record and possibly Turntable. I think it probably contributed to him getting kicked in the nuts. He's still right about everything.

 I Played in a band that opened for Flipper with Krist in SF 2007 in September...look it up. Krist played just fine and Bruce is an ass.

I wish my life was more than just nerding out on a BBS and trying to convince people that analog sounds better than digital. SIGH, I really, REALLY wish I had a friend.
Fixed
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on April 13, 2019, 10:26:02 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe anyone couldn't play a flipper song.  :lol:

It's a shame what happened to Bruce. You can tell by his posts that he's still not happy with yow joining.


what happened to Bruce?

Anyway if you can't play flipper, you have flippers for hands.
Check out his ass. From what I've seen, he's had problems with his spastic colon record and possibly Turntable. I think it probably contributed to him getting kicked in the nuts. He's still right about everything.

 I Played in a band that opened for Flipper with Krist in SF 2007 in September...look it up, It was the one thing I ever did besides hang around Trolling the Melvins board.

 my life is more than just trolling out on a BBS like pinky and trying to convince people that I'm cool.
Fixed

Will you be my friend?  :(

Oh I re-fixed that...much better now.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: WGB on May 13, 2019, 07:05:44 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392293489148?ul_noapp=true

Test pressing
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: GiveMe45 on May 13, 2019, 02:58:56 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392293489148?ul_noapp=true

Test pressing
And I thought my bid of $7 was gonna be the one....
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: FartLips on May 13, 2019, 11:09:12 PM
I didn't play in a band that opened for flipper but saw em with dwarves and ed hall in 92. great gig.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Crosley Bendix on May 16, 2019, 07:54:35 PM
I didn't play in a band that opened for flipper but saw em with dwarves and ed hall in 92. great gig.

Ed Hall was fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: vince furnier on May 16, 2019, 09:26:23 PM
I didn't play in a band that opened for flipper but saw em with dwarves and ed hall in 92. great gig.

Ed Hall was fucking awesome.

http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=20891.0 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=20891.0)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Crosley Bendix on May 17, 2019, 07:38:11 PM
I didn't play in a band that opened for flipper but saw em with dwarves and ed hall in 92. great gig.

Ed Hall was fucking awesome.

http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=20891.0 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=20891.0)

Awesome! Thanks!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 23, 2019, 02:06:43 PM
Vinyl should be coming soon.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: buddy holiday on May 23, 2019, 11:43:51 PM
Vinyl should be coming soon.
excellent!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: ))))(((( on May 24, 2019, 03:31:00 AM
Do we have any idea whatsoever what is actually on this split yet? New songs from both???


Edit. Ah i found this bit of info.
Quote
Melvins and Flipper will be releasing an EP called Hot Fish. They recently revealed that the EP will be a collaborative release (as opposed to a split EP) and will be out via Amphetamine Reptile. It appears the release will have four tracks. Two of the confirmed tracks are "Hot Fish" and what is most likely a re-cut of the Flipper classic "Sacrifice," which the Melvins previously covered on the Lysol album.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: deatheats on May 24, 2019, 10:46:23 AM
How about a Melvins/Jesus Lizard/Idles tour?

(https://i.imgur.com/x8WznF9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0ADLbRs.jpg)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Alex- on May 30, 2019, 06:54:08 AM
who will headline?  :lol:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 30, 2019, 09:14:34 AM
June 9th sale, three versions
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Stonergrunge on May 30, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
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(https://scontent.fscl10-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/61201676_2721088564587135_976571865420005376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fscl10-1.fna&oh=b49196747a8e41d7b189c6d6a851764b&oe=5D8F7B02)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: vince furnier on May 30, 2019, 07:43:11 PM
flipper blues.... @pinky  :lol:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: ))))(((( on May 31, 2019, 04:14:46 AM
So im guessing that 'Hot Fish' is a new Flipper song and the other three tracks are just reworkings of the old songs. All with Melvins incorporated of course.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: GrimReaper on May 31, 2019, 04:53:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1vl-Mw1D70

Brewtal Thirst, Seattle bar band, ripping off the beginning of Flipper - Someday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFnBp5ps_o&list=OLAK5uy_nuPoEreM1e_fyAF-MqAGqxVGD8I23YbHE&index=2

An alcoholic band, for alcoholics.

Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: DToxico on May 31, 2019, 07:28:36 AM
Semi-related question... Were Flipper doing "Someday" live in the years prior to their American Grafishy album or something? Since that album with the song on it came out in 1993, but all the dates I can find for the Melvins' Love Canal/Someday EP are like, 1990-1991 era. It's not significant or anything but that always made me wonder what kind of inside knowledge Buzz had, or if he simply listened to live bootlegs or something.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 31, 2019, 07:58:17 AM
Semi-related question... Were Flipper doing "Someday" live in the years prior to their American Grafishy album or something? Since that album with the song on it came out in 1993, but all the dates I can find for the Melvins' Love Canal/Someday EP are like, 1990-1991 era. It's not significant or anything but that always made me wonder what kind of inside knowledge Buzz had, or if he simply listened to live bootlegs or something.
Good question. Someday was released as a single in 1990, 'Someday/Distant Illusion'.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: DToxico on May 31, 2019, 08:04:34 AM
Semi-related question... Were Flipper doing "Someday" live in the years prior to their American Grafishy album or something? Since that album with the song on it came out in 1993, but all the dates I can find for the Melvins' Love Canal/Someday EP are like, 1990-1991 era. It's not significant or anything but that always made me wonder what kind of inside knowledge Buzz had, or if he simply listened to live bootlegs or something.
Good question. Someday was released as a single in 1990, 'Someday/Distant Illusion'.

Aaaahhh okay, I had no idea. Thanks! I'd been wondering about that for years.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 04, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emyaDTT_IkE
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pound4abrown on June 04, 2019, 01:41:01 PM
I love Trevor Dunn's bass work on this.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 04, 2019, 02:59:49 PM
Yep, straight out the gate! A woman's work is Trevor Dunn.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on June 04, 2019, 03:14:26 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: GiveMe45 on June 04, 2019, 11:00:00 PM
 So confused....is it because I’m not on Bookface?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: vince furnier on June 04, 2019, 11:02:23 PM
So confused....is it because I’m not on Bookface?
probably
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: ))))(((( on June 05, 2019, 03:55:10 AM
That is great!!!!! I want more of this! It reminds me (not that i really needed any reminding) how good Melvins Lite are.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pound4abrown on June 05, 2019, 07:43:24 AM
That is great!!!!! I want more of this! It reminds me (not that i really needed any reminding) how good Melvins Lite are.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on June 05, 2019, 04:05:44 PM
$5 Cheapy CDs ready on the 9th too? I'm guessing around $30 for the vinyl.
So what's the Melvins/Flipper lineup - Buzz/Dale/Trevor w/ DePace/Falconi?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 06, 2019, 10:36:13 AM
I'm really hoping Yow is part of it.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 06, 2019, 10:45:11 AM
I'm really hoping Yow is part of it.
Not as far as I know. Cds should be on sale Sunday.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on June 06, 2019, 11:21:07 AM
I'm really hoping Yow is part of it.

Meh
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: ))))(((( on June 06, 2019, 11:42:17 AM
I want to know if all these collab AmRep releases will cohere into a more regular Melvins album at some point. I hope so anyway.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: (PAUL) on June 06, 2019, 02:10:30 PM
I want to know if all these collab AmRep releases will cohere into a more regular Melvins album at some point. I hope so anyway.
They have in the past but who knows. Oh and I think Steve plays on it too.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 06, 2019, 03:54:36 PM
We've never seen a Dunn + Steven + Melvins (+ ??) on stage before, right? I hope I'm not mis-hearing the recording. It's really exciting.

Here's hoping a speedy recovery for Dale
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: black stallion on June 08, 2019, 12:44:41 PM
not too impressed with this song honestly
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 08, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
That night brought tears to my tired old bloodshot eyes. They killed it, and for me, it might as well have been 1980 all over again. Only with better beer then I was drinking back then.

I tried to post some pics from the show here, but apparently my brain is translating the instructions for how to upload images into Esperanto.....   :?

http://bossanovaballroom.com/show/flipper-with-david-yow-in-portland/
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on June 09, 2019, 11:01:31 AM
Yes! They're up!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on June 09, 2019, 11:06:40 AM
Yes! They're up!

Igot the bundle and completed the checkout in 30 seconds
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: buddy holiday on June 09, 2019, 11:07:40 AM
got me the dark red cover variant. Perfect!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on June 09, 2019, 11:09:38 AM
Yes! They're up!

Igot the bundle and completed the checkout in 30 seconds
:lol:

*rubs eyes with knuckles in disbelief*
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: GiveMe45 on June 09, 2019, 11:10:31 AM
Blood in the water!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on June 09, 2019, 11:14:36 AM
It's weird fighting against time to buy something, then after the sale's gone through, going back to have a look at what exactly you've bought.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 09, 2019, 11:19:31 AM
I *had* to go back and check, to make sure it actually *did* go through! I had the bundle in my cart and in the middle of checking out, it refreshed and was sold out. Tried again for 1 blood and 1 splatter, and the same thing happened in the middle of checkout -  the blood version was sold out. So, I at least scored a splatter version. Now I need more coffee!

It's weird fighting against time to buy something, then after the sale's gone through, going back to have a look at what exactly you've bought.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 09, 2019, 01:31:24 PM
All three variants sold out. I ordered a cheapy CD at least.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Stonergrunge on June 09, 2019, 02:41:33 PM
Cheapy CD for the win. I don't want to sound rude or anything like that, but AmRep vinyls are too expensive considering the quality of their pressings... and yet, they sold out within minutes, go figure.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 09, 2019, 03:01:22 PM
I just kinda wish that the AmRep web person would step up some of their site issues; this isn't the first time I've tried to buy a limited pressing and lost it while in the middle of checkout, and it was in the cart. I think I've heard that from a few others on this board as well. That's not the way those cart features are designed to work (or *not* work, in this case...) Oh well, I guess I should be glad I scored anything at all; besides, it's not like I was trying to save babies or somethin'...
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 09, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
The cart is working as expected- 'in the cart' doesn't mean anything until checkout and you get the 'order confirmed' message.

Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: vince furnier on June 09, 2019, 03:34:41 PM
The cart is working as expected- 'in the cart' doesn't mean anything until checkout and you get the 'order confirmed' message.
so 'in the cart' means it's really in the middle of the sales floor for anyone to grab and rundoft with? got it! ;)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 09, 2019, 03:36:25 PM
Could be that's the they want it set up, but think about venue sites where you're browsing tickets, and you have a window where the item in your cart is yours until the timer runs out. That's a little more cool than making folks trip over themselves trying to type fast and whatnot, and seeing things disappear anyway. Just sayin'...

The cart is working as expected- 'in the cart' doesn't mean anything until checkout and you get the 'order confirmed' message.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 09, 2019, 03:39:25 PM
Sure, why not? If I see you in a store with something in your cart, and you haven't made it to the checkout counter yet, that means I can grab it from your cart and run for the register, right? Heck, I'm gonna remember that one for Record Store Day from now on!

The cart is working as expected- 'in the cart' doesn't mean anything until checkout and you get the 'order confirmed' message.
so 'in the cart' means it's really in the middle of the sales floor for anyone to grab and rundoft with? go it! ;)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: vince furnier on June 09, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
Sure, why not? If I see you in a store with something in your cart, and you haven't made it to the checkout counter yet, that means I can grab it from your cart and run for the register, right? Heck, I'm gonna remember that one for Record Store Day from now on!

The cart is working as expected- 'in the cart' doesn't mean anything until checkout and you get the 'order confirmed' message.
so 'in the cart' means it's really in the middle of the sales floor for anyone to grab and rundoft with? go it! ;)
try me pal!  :lol:
(https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/61892190_418517962317190_7863282393883344896_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQm9ofcEHRFw1-jdptIuhAVmZElSONn-JcrjT9iv1h4xaX486BO7LDDo58VJrnPVNBw&_nc_ht=scontent.fphx1-1.fna&oh=0f137ee4c14cfd7991863030c0c56ea9&oe=5D8D70E7)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 09, 2019, 03:46:01 PM
Let's assume amrep changed the checkout procedure to 'in the cart means you've got it'- nothing would change, because everyone would still be on a level playing field. Assuming all things the same (your checkout speed, your internet connection, etc) you would still be in the same position, ie the faster  people would still be first.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 09, 2019, 03:49:10 PM
Ack! That guy didn't lose his ass... it's clearly hoisted up around his neck!  :shock:

try me pal!  :lol:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: meezer on June 09, 2019, 08:20:04 PM
 :idea:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 09, 2019, 09:05:22 PM
I know! I was *so* hoping that Flipper might have had some vinyl with 'em when they were just in Portland this past Thursday, but suprisingly, they had zero vinyl of any sort. They did have a bunch of t-shirts which are on their web store, and a couple of pins which were kinda cool. I'm almost a wee bit bit jealous of any of you kids who might be able to snag some of those Hot Fish slabs from an upcoming show, but I guess that's what I get for living on the West Coast these days...   :cry:

:idea:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Alex- on June 10, 2019, 02:03:10 AM
Damn missed out :( hopefully Flipper will save and bring some to europe in august..
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pound4abrown on June 10, 2019, 09:12:07 AM
Got the Cheap-O CD and that is enough for me.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Tobias on June 10, 2019, 06:31:58 PM
I know! I was *so* hoping that Flipper might have had some vinyl with 'em when they were just in Portland this past Thursday, but suprisingly, they had zero vinyl of any sort. They did have a bunch of t-shirts which are on their web store, and a couple of pins which were kinda cool. I'm almost a wee bit bit jealous of any of you kids who might be able to snag some of those Hot Fish slabs from an upcoming show, but I guess that's what I get for living on the West Coast these days...   :cry:

:idea:

I saw them in seattle and got the same pin and the yellow shirt and signed poster. I was hoping they'd have vinyl too
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 10, 2019, 06:35:53 PM
The yellow shirt modeled after the Cobain drawing, or the Walsby tour shirt?
I had to get the Walsby shirt, just cuz the band drawing was pretty cool.
I didn't grab a poster, since I was taking pictures from the pit, and figured it would get destoyed.

I saw them in seattle and got the same pin and the yellow shirt and signed poster. I was hoping they'd have vinyl too
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Tobias on June 11, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
The yellow shirt modeled after the Cobain drawing, or the Walsby tour shirt?
I had to get the Walsby shirt, just cuz the band drawing was pretty cool.
I didn't grab a poster, since I was taking pictures from the pit, and figured it would get destoyed.

I saw them in seattle and got the same pin and the yellow shirt and signed poster. I was hoping they'd have vinyl too

I got the one modeled off Cobain's drawing
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on June 11, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
The yellow shirt modeled after the Cobain drawing, or the Walsby tour shirt?
I had to get the Walsby shirt, just cuz the band drawing was pretty cool.
I didn't grab a poster, since I was taking pictures from the pit, and figured it would get destoyed.

I saw them in seattle and got the same pin and the yellow shirt and signed poster. I was hoping they'd have vinyl too

I got the one modeled off Cobain's drawing

The good news is flipper T shirts are easy to make even if you can hardly Draw.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: (PAUL) on June 12, 2019, 12:11:34 PM
The yellow shirt modeled after the Cobain drawing, or the Walsby tour shirt?
I had to get the Walsby shirt, just cuz the band drawing was pretty cool.
I didn't grab a poster, since I was taking pictures from the pit, and figured it would get destoyed.

I saw them in seattle and got the same pin and the yellow shirt and signed poster. I was hoping they'd have vinyl too

I got the one modeled off Cobain's drawing

The good news is flipper T shirts are easy to make even if you can hardly Draw.
Yeah, the hardest part would be finding a yellow shirt.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on June 12, 2019, 12:33:44 PM
The yellow shirt modeled after the Cobain drawing, or the Walsby tour shirt?
I had to get the Walsby shirt, just cuz the band drawing was pretty cool.
I didn't grab a poster, since I was taking pictures from the pit, and figured it would get destoyed.

I saw them in seattle and got the same pin and the yellow shirt and signed poster. I was hoping they'd have vinyl too

I got the one modeled off Cobain's drawing

The good news is flipper T shirts are easy to make even if you can hardly Draw.
Yeah, the hardest part would be finding a yellow shirt.
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pound4abrown on June 12, 2019, 05:09:23 PM
got my cheap-o cd today. I just ordered on Mon. Pretty impressive shipping time. Enjoying Flipper Blues
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 12, 2019, 06:20:17 PM
got my cheap-o cd today. I just ordered on Mon. Pretty impressive shipping time. Enjoying Flipper Blues
Buzz on vocals?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Pound4abrown on June 12, 2019, 06:41:56 PM
got my cheap-o cd today. I just ordered on Mon. Pretty impressive shipping time. Enjoying Flipper Blues
Buzz on vocals?

Vocals are double tracked on Flipper Blues.not sure if they are both Buzz there are parts where it sounds like two different peoole. But I've only given it one proper listen.
 28mins long total a little longer than I expedted. Love hearing Trevor on more Melvins music.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 12, 2019, 07:18:54 PM
Nice, thanks
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 13, 2019, 08:59:15 AM
Heh... it looks like my vinyl showed up at the PO Box in tow around 10 am yesterday... less than an hour *after* we had picked up pur mail (the mail delivery around here is pretty lousy, but at least it's relatively safe by using a PO Box). Can't wait to go back today to pick it up and give it a spin!

On a side note, I'm glad I was able to record about an hour of the Flipper set in Portland.... there doesn't seem to be any evidence that anyone else has recorded any of the subsequent shows - only the video clips from Al's, on youtube. I wish I had more memory in my phone, because the Portland show demonstrated that they were even more on top of their game since the first couple of shows on the tour. I can only imagine how good they could be sounding as the tour commences...
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: GiveMe45 on June 13, 2019, 09:44:07 AM
Got a notification that mine has processed through the local post office and is out for delivery
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 13, 2019, 10:03:57 AM
Woo-hoo! We decided to make an early morning run into town and grab the mail. Looks like I just got my order pushed through in the nick of time.. Number #188!  :D
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: (PAUL) on June 13, 2019, 02:50:47 PM
Listened to it a couple of times, pretty cool! Sounds like Trevor on upright on the first two tracks and someone on electric bass on the last two (Steven?). Hard to tell who is playing what on guitar and drums but I'm guessing they're doubled up on everything. All the vocals sound like Buzz. Anyone know what they're saying at the beginning of Flipper Blues?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 13, 2019, 03:03:55 PM
"Alright, I'd like to introduce the band; this is four guys with their hands up their assholes and their zippers down...."

After that, it becomes even less intelligible....   8)

Maybe something about seeing something at a festival... or maybe seeing someone's testicle... ?
I dunno, it's all about the same to me....  :-k

Listened to it a couple of times, pretty cool! Sounds like Trevor on upright on the first two tracks and someone on electric bass on the last two (Steven?). Hard to tell who is playing what on guitar and drums but I'm guessing they're doubled up on everything. All the vocals sound like Buzz. Anyone know what they're saying at the beginning of Flipper Blues?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2019, 06:57:18 AM
"Alright, I'd like to introduce the band; this is four guys with their hands up their assholes and their zippers down...."

After that, it becomes even less intelligible....   8)

Maybe something about seeing something at a festival... or maybe seeing someone's testicle... ?
I dunno, it's all about the same to me....  :-k

Listened to it a couple of times, pretty cool! Sounds like Trevor on upright on the first two tracks and someone on electric bass on the last two (Steven?). Hard to tell who is playing what on guitar and drums but I'm guessing they're doubled up on everything. All the vocals sound like Buzz. Anyone know what they're saying at the beginning of Flipper Blues?

It's from "Flipper Blues" from the Public Flipper Limited album
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yRchAgtDuUU
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 14, 2019, 12:22:10 PM
Holy cats, you're right; how did I not pick up on that?  :facepalm:
I really haven't given that album enough spins since the day I bought it, I guess.
The first couple LPs are the ones I've really played to death over the years.
Leave it to The Melvins to recreate the whole vibe of the original, though!

It's from "Flipper Blues" from the Public Flipper Limited album
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 14, 2019, 01:57:26 PM
On a side note, someone using the handle TacomaPunk uploaded some video footage from the Seattle show - about 48 minutes' worth. Not bad!

Here they are:
 TacomaPunk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqc5JO33LCgOeKc3-rXWnmQ/videos?view=0&flow=grid)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2019, 02:39:21 PM
On a side note, someone using the handle TacomaPunk uploaded some video footage from the Seattle show - about 48 minutes' worth. Not bad!

Here they are:
 TacomaPunk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqc5JO33LCgOeKc3-rXWnmQ/videos?view=0&flow=grid)

At any of the other shows has Yow invited the audience up on stage during 'Sex Bomb'? Or was it just Seattle?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 14, 2019, 03:06:13 PM
That happened the previous night in Portland as well.

I was video-recording on my iPhone from the edge of the pit, pressed up against the stage in front of Rachel, but I ran out of space on my phone after about an hour, so I didn't catch that - missed a few songs, in fact. I was able to get a few photos, though, including some of the crowd swarming the stage during Sex Bomb.

Unfortunately, I'm apparently not bright enough to know how to edit iPhone video footage into separate songs / clips, or I'd probably be able to share them with other folks, even the band members.

Also, for the life of me, I have not been able to post any photos on this here message board, except for the one of those Flipper pins, for some reason. The error messages I get basically tell me nothing at all, like they're just guessing. I've squashed a few pics down way below the size requirements, but with the exception of the one snap of those pins, nothing.

Anyone who thinks they can help me out with those little problems, feel free to let me know. I'm pretty good at recording and mixing in a small studio or a club, but when it comes to these little gadgets like "smart" phones, my brains go right down the toilet. Maybe if I had been born a millennial instead during the 50s baby boom.....


At any of the other shows has Yow invited the audience up on stage during 'Sex Bomb'? Or was it just Seattle?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Peebot on June 14, 2019, 03:07:38 PM
On a side note, someone using the handle TacomaPunk uploaded some video footage from the Seattle show - about 48 minutes' worth. Not bad!

Here they are:
 TacomaPunk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqc5JO33LCgOeKc3-rXWnmQ/videos?view=0&flow=grid)

At any of the other shows has Yow invited the audience up on stage during 'Sex Bomb'? Or was it just Seattle?

when that happened at El Corazon he came out on the half-empty floor, came right up to me and put his arm around me and looked back up at the crowd with a big smile on his face. I put my arm around him in kind and said "Yeah man, look at this magic you've created!" and he looked back at me and yelled "I just wish they all had kazoos!" and then made his way back up on stage.

that guy. the best.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
On a side note, someone using the handle TacomaPunk uploaded some video footage from the Seattle show - about 48 minutes' worth. Not bad!

Here they are:
 TacomaPunk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqc5JO33LCgOeKc3-rXWnmQ/videos?view=0&flow=grid)

At any of the other shows has Yow invited the audience up on stage during 'Sex Bomb'? Or was it just Seattle?

when that happened at El Corazon he came out on the half-empty floor, came right up to me and put his arm around me and looked back up at the crowd with a big smile on his face. I put my arm around him in kind and said "Yeah man, look at this magic you've created!" and he looked back at me and yelled "I just wish they all had kazoos!" and then made his way back up on stage.

that guy. the best.

I got up on stage. I was right behind Ted. didn't Yow do some crazy shit at this show? i saw him rubbing some bald guys head for like a solid minute. I wanna say he made out with someone and pulled his dick out? my view was obstructed but that's what it seemed was going on.

that would've been kool if they handed out kazoos
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on June 14, 2019, 04:09:23 PM
Funny thing is, before the Portland show I saw one of the clips on youtube from the last run of shows with Bruce, where they gave some guy a kazoo and invited him on stage. I don't think he ever did play the thing, but it reminded me that I have one or two kazoos around my house, and I tried to find it before the show, to no avail. Probably just as well.

In those Seattle clips, there's one where right after Shed No Tears, the trouser minnow makes a cameo appearance, per request from the audience.  :oops:

I got up on stage. I was right behind Ted. didn't Yow do some crazy shit at this show? i saw him rubbing some bald guys head for like a solid minute. I wanna say he made out with someone and pulled his dick out? my view was obstructed but that's what it seemed was going on.

that would've been kool if they handed out kazoos
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 19, 2019, 01:44:37 PM
I've had a few days to absorb this EP. I like it. Hot Fish and Sacrifice are the better tracks for me. I didn't really grow up with Flipper, though I've heard the records on occasion, so Blues and Shine are basically new to me.

All the cover songs are long without really going anywhere, except that "Sacrifice" has that big Buzz KISS yell at the end. "Shine" feels a lot like "Euthenasia" and after hearing the source material I appreciate this version more.

It's a good record. I'd probably recommend the Sabbath EP over this if someone were asking, but if this is part of an ongoing series I hope they keep doing more.

Also, there's a lot of flamming going on with the drums. Is this all two drummers?

 
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: buddy holiday on June 20, 2019, 02:33:11 AM
I noticed that the 'brand new' page on shoxop has been updated to remove the sold out stuff. potentially this is a sign that some of the remains of the flipper 10“ could go up soon....
happened for the sabbath 10" like this... so as a headsup to those who missed out.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: DToxico on June 28, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Finally listened to it. I like it. Now it looks like there's a collab or split or something with Shitkid on the way according to the band's Facebook?
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Alex- on June 29, 2019, 03:17:17 PM
Finally listened to it. I like it. Now it looks like there's a collab or split or something with Shitkid on the way according to the band's Facebook?

I’ve seen that too! Hopefully it’s a collab instead of a split, but I would buy it either way..
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 29, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scncXh0i2ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_eYsl6GTjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIPKcbSnnS0
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: amazonAMAZON on June 29, 2019, 09:48:20 PM
Interesting that two songs are billed as simply Melvins
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on June 30, 2019, 09:59:18 AM
Sacrifice has been done to death over the years... but I'm glad they at least did a different rendition. Thought I think it doesn't pack the same punch as the Lysol one.

I Saw You Shine, oh wow. Now that's a great cover. It does sound like Euthanasia as has been already mentioned, but
I haven't heard a Melvins song as emotionally heavy as this since... The Decay Of Lying probably.
Sweet Young Thing comes to mind, I loved the mood on that. This is one of the best covers Melvins have ever done.

The other two songs don't do much for me atm honestly.
I mean Hot Fish has this mellow groove that's pleasant but it pales in comparison to A Senile Animal songs with the same vibe.
The double vocals on Flipper Blues are fun, but they're not enough to make it an interesting song.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: kingdiamond on July 09, 2019, 11:48:08 AM
So when I went and saw Flipper + Yow in Indianapolis I talked to the guitarist for a bit and mentioned I was bummed that the Flipper/Melvins vinyl sold out so quick and he said to watch out for a repressing that will be sold on their website. I can't find a Flipper website but either way that brings me hope.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: 01001010 on July 09, 2019, 12:13:05 PM
*Maybe* Ted was talking about this site?
This place does have a bunch of merch they had with them on the tour out West, anyway.

Hello Merch (https://www.hellomerch.com/collections/flipper)

So when I went and saw Flipper + Yow in Indianapolis I talked to the guitarist for a bit and mentioned I was bummed that the Flipper/Melvins vinyl sold out so quick and he said to watch out for a repressing that will be sold on their website. I can't find a Flipper website but either way that brings me hope.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on July 09, 2019, 12:16:03 PM
*Maybe* Ted was talking about this site?
This place does have a bunch of merch they had with them on the tour out West, anyway.
That yellow shirt's the dog's bollocks.

I scored me a Melvins pipe-cleaner doll from the wife of a Flipper. She seemed anxious then pleased that I'd taken it out of its bag for the first time ever. It was in my old avatar, prolly lost the photo now.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 15, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/07/10/cbs-sf-flipper-drummer-steve-depace-interview-punk/

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...we decided to do one new original track. Buzz came up with the title. That was the first thing he came up with and he said he wanted to call it “Hot Fish.” And he came up with this riff and we just jammed and recorded it. We never even rehearsed it. We just did a little bit of a run through to get the levels and just jammed it out. And he later came back and put vocals from the lyrics he wrote after we left. So that’s how that came about, just me reaching out to Buzz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emyaDTT_IkE

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CBS SF Talks To Flipper Drummer Steve DePace
July 10, 2019 at 10:39 am
Filed Under:Flipper, Great American Music Hall, Punk Rock, San Francisco, Steve DePace


By Dave Pehling

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — One of the most abrasive and iconoclastic bands to emerge from San Francisco during the punk era, Flipper has been delivering its noisy, dark-humored songs to rabidly loyal audiences for four decades.

Formed in 1979, Flipper initially featured singer Ricky Williams (ex-Sleepers, who came up with the band’s moniker), guitarist Ted Falconi (ex-Rad Command), and the former rhythm section of Negative Trend, Will Shatter (bass) and Steve DePace (drums). Drug problems led the group to fire Williams only months after first coming together, but that led to the addition of singer/bassist Bruce “Loose” Calderwood, completing what would become known as Flipper’s classic line-up.


Embracing plodding tempos and room-clearing sonic chaos built around Falconi’s unique guitar squall and the tandem screaming vocals of Shatter and Calderwood, Flipper stood in stark opposition to most of the band’s punk contemporaries in San Francisco and abroad. Playing frequent shows to not always receptive audiences more accustomed to the fast and hard punk aesthetic, Flipper became a mainstay at SF punk clubs including the Mabuhay Gardens, the Sound of Music and the On Broadway.  Still, despite their willful dissonance, the band somehow found a way to cram hooks and sneering, sarcastic humor into the cacophonous grooves of early singles like “Sex Bomb” and “Ha Ha Ha.” Both those songs would be covered by countless bands following in Flipper’s discordant footsteps over the years that followed.


The band followed it’s early 7-inch single success with Subterranean records with a proper debut album, 1982’s Album – Generic Flipper. Hailed as a masterpiece of American punk when released, the legacy of the recording has only grown with the influence it exerted over generations of post-punk and alternative rock acts. While Flipper only would manage one more studio album (Gone Fishin’ in 1984) and a pair of live albums before splitting up prior to Shatter’s death by overdose in late 1987, by that time some of the band’s disciples — most notably longtime Flipper proselytizers the Melvins — were already making their own records.


Flipper would resurface in 1990 with a new bassist — John Dougherty– and a new single for Subterranean. They were prodded to more activity by another admirer, record producer Rick Rubin (who had led his own Flipper-inspired noise band Hose in New York before co-founding Def Jam Records). Rubin would issue their 1992 album American Grafishy on his Def American imprint, but the band suffered another setback when Dougherty suffered a fatal overdose after the record’s release.

When the band should have been capitalizing on its newfound cache thanks to the vocal praise of fan and Nirvana leader Kurt Cobain, it instead returned to dormancy for much of the decade. Flipper has been more active since the turn of the millennium, reuniting during the 2000s to tour and record a new album with former Nirvana bassist Krist Novoselic in 2009. With longtime singer Calderwood sidelined due to a back injury, in 2015 the band recruited Scratch Acid and Jesus Lizard to front the band for a series of successful dates in the U.S. and Italy.

Flipper with David Yow
Flipper with David Yow (Credit Nick Sternberg)

With the arrival of the band’s 40th anniversary this year, DePace and Falconi have returned to activity, taking to the road for Flipper’s most extensive run of live concerts in years with Yow band in the fold and previous collaborator Rachel Thoele (of the SF bands Frightwig and Mudwimin) on bass. The shows included an appearance at this year’s edition of the Punk Rock Bowling Festival in Las Vegas that featured Flipper supporting fellow punk renegades Killing Joke.

DePace recently spoke with CBS SF about the inspirations behind the band’s unique sounds, the current round of 40th anniversary celebrations and a recent new recording made with longtime Flipper champions the Melvins ahead of a series of three greater Bay Area dates in San Jose and Sacramento this week before culminating with a homecoming show at San Francisco’s Great American Music Hall on Saturday, July 13, with fellow SF punk veterans the Next and Frightwig also performing.


CBS SF: Flipper had a really unique sound in that you embraced a dissonance that was much more extreme than most of your punk contemporaries. Was that just the band embracing that skronky element of the Stooges’ Funhouse album or was there some interest in avant garde or experimental music in your collective backgrounds?

Steve DePace: When we started the band, initially there was a guy named Ricky Williams who was the singer. He lasted about six months, but the band’s sound continued from there, even when he left. Just to take it through Bruce [Loose, the band’s bassist and sometimes lead singer], Will Shatter, Ted Falconi and myself, each of us brought our own influences. Both the music we listened to and the attitudes we had about life, the world, politics, you name it. You don’t really talk about it too much, but we all brought our ideas to the band, musically and lyrically and attitude-wise. Certainly what ever influenced each of us growing up, you bring that with you.

I’ve heard Ted talk about having some jazz and whatnot in his background. I specifically remember him talking about discovering the electric guitar, but that wasn’t until 1977 or ’78. Prior to that, he played piano and acoustic guitar. He studied music. He has several degrees from studying art and music.

Will Shatter went to high school in England when the punk rock thing hit, so that was the stuff he was listening to, like the Sex Pistols. His father worked for some corporation that had him working over there. So he had those influences. When I met Will in 1978, he turned me on to music I’d never heard of like Leonard Cohen and Lou Reed and early Roxy Music.


Bruce Loose, I have no idea what his musical background was, but he grew up in San Francisco with a hippie mom during the ’60s. Complete, 100 percent hippie lifestyle, so he was probably listening to the folky stuff. In fact, his step father was the manager of Country Joe and the Fish back when they did Woodstock and all that. So he grew up around that kind of hippie, folky ’60s rock kind of stuff that was happening in San Francisco.


Myself, my earliest influences were the Beatles and the British Invasion bands and all of that. Then I got into Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin and Sly and the Family Stone, and Tommy James and the Shondells and Isaac Hayes. A little bit of reggae stuff later on like Bob Marley. I had a pretty wide, eclectic range of music I’d listen to. I bought records and every day coming home from grade school, I remember I really looked forward to listening to records when I got home. I started buying records when I was 13 or 14. Maybe even younger, like 12. I started buying singles and albums. I really loved music from an early age.

I started playing drums a little later, like 14 or 15. I’d play in my basement; put on a record and put on headphones and play along. So I was never influenced by folk or jazz at an early age. Is was more rock and pop, if you want to call the Beatles pop. And then into the heavier rock later on. As a drummer, I was really into the heavy rock beats you’d hear with Led Zeppelin. I loved the Rolling Stones, though Charlie Watts did play what I’d call heavy rock. I guess he came from more of a jazz background.


When I became aware of punk rock, the Sex Pistols were the first band I heard and I loved Paul Cook’s drumming. I think that’s what I brought to the band: just a basic, 4/4 heavy rock beat. Ted Falconi and his approach on guitar was not at all traditional, in any sense or form. I don’t even know where he got the idea to play the way he does. He under stands music and notes and chords, because he studied it in school. He plays chords, but he’s just creating this sonic…noise, but with the right chords [laughs].

Bruce had vocal training, because he had been in a boys choir, but he had no musical training on bass, and neither did Will Shatter at all. Those guys just picked up the bass guitar and kind of taught themselves notes that sounded good in progression. They didn’t know an A from a C from a D. They just plucked notes until they found a series of three or four notes that sounded good together. There was no musical science behind that at all. Lyrically, they both had their own style and attitude that they brought to their writing; their views on life and politics and all the rest.

So everybody just brought to the table what they brought to the table. I’ve been asked this question a million times and it’s always been the same answer. When we walk into a room and I sit down at the drum kit, the guitarist and bassist plug in their amps and we just started making noise. Generally, it would start with a simple bass riff that either Will or Bruce would play. We’d add a drum beat and guitar noise to it and the singer would find some sort of influence in what was being played and be inspired.

Those guys would either have lyrics pre-written or they would write lyrics to the music while we were playing after having some thought or idea. I’ve seen Bruce do this where he’ll sit down with a note pad and while we’re playing a new piece of music, he’ll start writing lyrics and then step up to the mic and start singing them. So we would work though songs like that. For example, our very first song that we recorded was called “Earthworm.” That came out on a little 7-inch compilation EP called SF Underground. There were four different bands with four different songs from the very early days of the San Francisco punk scene [Editor’s Note: No Alternative, The Tools and VKTMS were the other three bands featured].


That song “Earthworm,” the lyrics were written by Will Shatter and he told me how he came up with those lyrics. He never smoked marijuana because it made him paranoid, but he did this one time and he got paranoid. And he said he literally crawled under the blankets in his bed with a flashlight and a notepad and wrote the lyrics about being an earthworm from an earthworm’s perspective [laughs]. So those guys wrote their lyrics from whatever space they were in. I guess no matter what your artistic platform is, whether you’re a painter or whatever you might be, your influences and attitudes come out in your expression.

CBS SF: I read that Ted Falconi studied Moog synthesizer and music at Mills College, which was an epicenter for sound experiments. It struck me that there is no one else in punk who has that kind of background…

Steve DePace: Yeah, he studied at Mills and he studied at UC Berkeley. Mills is a women’s college for undergrads, but there are men in the masters programs. So he was in a masters program at Mills, but but then he was also in a masters program in Berkeley. I don’t know how many degrees he has [laughs]! He did tell me that he studied Moog synthesizer.

CBS SF: Flipper had such a unique sound, especially for the time. It was almost like you were a post-punk band right in the midst of the birth of San Francisco punk. I guess there were some precedents. Devo had their own avant-garde tendencies. Were there any post-punk bands that emerged after Flipper that you felt a particular affinity with in the early ’80s or beyond? I mean besides the Melvins, since I’m sure we’re going to talk about them in connection with your recent recordings…

Steve DePace: We had several descriptions put upon us during the ’80s. One was “the Grateful Dead of the ’80s.” They called us that because most punk bands’ songs were pretty short and fast for the most part and our songs were long and slow. On certain songs, we would jam on for 15, 20 minutes and, in some cases, longer than that.


Then it was “the hated Flipper.” Because when hardcore came into vogue and everything was uniformly fast and furious with short songs and the fashion style was all kind of uniform, we became “the band you love to hate.” But another one was that we were called “grungy” or “grunge music.” A “grunge band” was another label that was sort of thrust upon us, and that was a full ten years before grunge was attributed to the music scene in Seattle.

In fact, I was flipping through a Rolling Stone magazine, and I forget who the writer was, but it was talking about bands that sounded grungy. Neil Young was one. There were a few bands mentioned as sounding grungy, but Flipper was another one in this article from the early ’80s. So I don’t know how it eventually got attributed to Seattle and all that, but Flipper was definitely a kind of grungy looking and grungy sounding band. That word sort of sounds right [laughs].

The Melvins definitely say we were a gigantic influence on them, and they turned Nirvana onto Flipper. I would say in terms of bands that were influenced by Flipper, Nirvana was a big one. But it started in the early ’80s. There were quite literally thousands of bands that covered “Sex Bomb.” Every teenage garage band in those days covered “Sex Bomb.” It was an easy song to play. It got played on college radio across the country, so people were familiar with it. I’ve heard from bands from all over the world that covered it.


But Nirvana is the most notable band that talked about being influenced by Flipper. Noveselic told me one time that Cobain took all of his punk rock influences — all the bands he listened to and loved, among them being Flipper — he took that and coupled it with his pop sensibilities. He put the two together and came up with their music and their sound. It’s pretty cool. It’s great that we were able to have that kind of effect and impact on music in general.

And the flip side of that is we were also really able to touch the fans. People who aren’t necessarily musicians. People who tell us that that Flipper saved their life. That still happens to this day. We were just playing in St. Louis a few days ago and happened to be an all-ages show. After soundcheck, I walked out of the club and saw this kid in a wheelchair and his mom waiting to get in. His name was Finn and he was probably 12 or 13 years old and he has cerebral palsy. His mom brought him because Flipper is his favorite band and “Way of the World” is his favorite song.

And the kid can’t talk; he’s got this little iPad thing that he uses to communicate. I gave him a t-shirt and he got into the show and was sitting in his wheelchair off to the side of the stage when we came on and started playing. I looked at him and he had the biggest grin on his face. And when we started playing “Way of the World,” that kid got up out of his wheelchair and came up onto the stage. He went center stage and grabbed the mic and he wanted to sing that song so bad. I mean he couldn’t do it, but he was going through the motions of singing the song, holding the microphone and smiling ear to ear. And our singer David Yow was hugging and kissing him and stepped off to let him do his thing. And the audience sang that whole song word for word as the kid was up there with the mic.

They sang it for him. It was so moving and incredible. It affected us unbelievably. And he stayed up on stage for another song; we did a song called “Shine” after that and he stayed up there and the audience sang for him again. The kid was just so happy. It was literally the time of his life. So for us to have that kind of effect on people in various conditions and various states of mind, it’s pretty incredible. I’m very humbled by it. I don’t really understand it, but I acknowledge it and I’m happy about it. Because that’s really the point of music: to move people and inspire people and make people happy. If we can accomplish that, I think that’s the most you can hope for.

CBS SF: That seems like a good point to talk about Yow a little bit. When I saw him with the band back in 2015, he seemed perfect for Flipper. I read that during the break between that round of dates with Yow and now, you tried out other singers. I was curious if there was anyone of note that you auditioned? Was Yow still the best fit in the end?

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Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on July 15, 2019, 06:35:27 PM
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Steve DePace: Yeah, Yow is perfect. He’s just amazing. We had a wonderful time with him in 2015. We did a total of about 13 shows with him. There were three shows in Italy and about ten shows in the States. We did west coast and east coast. Well, at least the one show in New York. After those shows, David said he couldn’t really commit beyond that. He had a great time and loved it but he was focusing on acting and had a bunch of things coming up. So that was that.


During that interim between then and now, we were kind of racking our brains. Because he really was so perfect it was difficult to match that with somebody else. Who could we get? Nobody else was coming up with any ideas, so I was kind of left to come up with someone. We did try someone else out; I won’t say who, but it didn’t measure up. I did have a handful of ideas and talked to a few people on the phone, but we weren’t really enthusiastic about any one idea to really go after it.

I ended up getting sidetracked with health issues and I really didn’t think about it again until I heard that David was doing some reunion gigs with the Jesus Lizard. So I thought, “Oh wow, maybe he’s thinking about music again.” I didn’t reach out to him, but I had it back in my head that if maybe we pull it together someday he’d be into it. I didn’t really get serious about that until 2019 rolled around and it struck me that it was our 40th anniversary and it would be a really momentous occasion. 40 is a big milestone. It would be a great occasion to try and do something.

So I though about him first and I thought, “Well, in case he’s not interested, there are a lot of people in the world who might be.” In January of this year, I got really inspired. I was really fired up to do something. In my mind, I was like, “I WILL find somebody. I will find multiple people.” It was the right time and I had the right attitude and the right energy and I was ready to go. And that just wasn’t there between [the tour in] 2015 and now. When David moved on in 2015, it was so perfect and fun with him, the wind was kind of taken out of my sails. I was just kind of like, “Ugh. Now what?” Because it takes a lot of energy to get out and find the right people to do this kind of thing again.

But I was super fired up. I was going to make this happen, period. I reached out to David first, but if he had said no, I would have moved on and I would have definitely found people because I was ready to do it. And that’s what I had in mind really: to work with a variety of people that we’ve worked with in the past and we were friends with or associated with, et cetera, et cetera. So I was ready to reach out to a whole lot of people and do a variety of different things, whether it be collaborating on recordings or pulling people into the band for touring. Everything.


So I reached out to him first, and I told him, “We’re going to go do this thing. Out of respect to you — you’re amazing and we love you– I’m going to let you have first option on this. Tell me what you think.” And he initially agreed to do anything we would do in Los Angeles, because he lives here and I live here. And then we expanded that to Southern California gigs. And then we had brunch one day and I told him all that I was planning and all that was in the works, and all of a sudden he was interested in doing all of it. Which included a European tour and dates across the United States that were being booked.

And he just said, “I want to do all of it! Let me see if I can make this happen.” So he looked at his schedule and so far so good. He’s been good to go on everything we’re doing. It’s been great. We’re loving it. And we are working with different people. We have an old friend of ours Rachel Thoele playing bass with us in the States and we have Mike Watt going to Europe with us in August.

Ted Falconi and I did a recording collaboration with Buzz and Dale from the Melvins and just last week, we recorded a song with David Yow and Rachel and myself and Ted in Indianapolis for a record label called Joyful Noise. That’s a label that David has done a lot of things with and they’ve worked with Dale from the Melvins and a lot of different cool people. So we recorded a Flipper song, “Love Canal,” in Indianapolis and we did sort of an homage to the Beatles. We recorded and video taped the performance on the rooftop of this record label like the Beatles did on the rooftop of Apple Records. And it came out great. That’s going to come out on 7-inch vinyl for a series that the label does called Almost Live. That’ll be coming out some time in the next couple of months.

CBS SF: That’s interesting. I was curious, with Yow returning to the band, if you had any plans to record new material with him or maybe release live recordings from this tour?

Steve DePace: Yeah, there’s the 7-inch I just mentioned, and then there’s also serious talk about plans to release a live album. So that’s the next thing we’re working on. We’ve recorded a couple of different shows now, so I think we’re going to release a live record with David as well. Probably through this same record label.

CBS SF: I wanted to ask a bit about the recordings process with the Melvins. I think one of the band’s great strengths is their ability to collaborate in the studio, whether its with Jello Biafra or members of the Butthole Surfers or whoever. From what I gather, it was just the two songs on the Amphetamine Reptile 10-inch record that were collaborative, the new one “Hot Fish” and “Flipper Blues.”

Steve DePace: Actually, we didn’t record “Flipper Blues” together. Let me tell you what happened. So as I mentioned before, there was a variety of things I wanted to do for this 40th anniversary. In terms of recording projects, early on I started reaching out to people and saying, “Hey, these are all the different kinds of things we’re thinking about doing. Would you be interested?” So I sent an email to King Buzzo and asked would he be interested in recording or touring with us or collaborating on a live performance or whatever. I threw it all out to him.

He got back to me and by coincidence, he said to me, “Well, we’re planning to go into our studio to work on a new album.” And they were planning on recording a couple of Flipper songs. That was already in their plans. So he goes, “Why don’t you and Ted come down to our studio and we’ll come up with some other ideas? We’ll put our two Flipper covers on one side, and we’ll figure something out with you to put on the other side.” So they were already thinking along the lines of doing this record with Amphetamine Reptile.


So when we got to the studio, the idea I had was to write a couple of new songs with them as a collaborative effort. When we got their Trevor was already there working on songs with them. They asked Trevor to hang out for a couple of extra days and work with Ted and myself and them on whatever we were going to do. Buzz and Dale and Trevor had already recorded the music for “Flipper Blues” and “I Saw You Shine.” So we watched Buzz do the vocals while we were there and it was amazing to watch him record those vocal tracks. He was just incredible.


And then together what we ended up deciding to do was record a song that the Melvins have been performing live for decades. For however long they’ve been around, they’ve been doing “Sacrifice.” And Buzz told me it’s one of his favorite Flipper songs and one of his favorite songs in the world. He just loves that song and their rendition of it is f–king incredible. We toured with them in…I don’t know, was it 2006 or 2008? We were touring Europe with them and at this show in Ireland, they played “Sacrifice” as a tribute to Flipper. Buzz talked about how he discovered the band and the Generic Flipper album and what it represented to him. He said Generic Flipper sounded to him like the end of the world. And he brought it full circle by talking directly to the audience and telling them they should all go out and start their own band and make their own soundtrack to the end of the world.

So we ended up recording a new version of “Sacrifice,” and it came out just amazing. Then we decided to do one new original track. Buzz came up with the title. That was the first thing he came up with and he said he wanted to call it “Hot Fish.” And he came up with this riff and we just jammed and recorded it. We never even rehearsed it. We just did a little bit of a run through to get the levels and just jammed it out. And he later came back and put vocals from the lyrics he wrote after we left. So that’s how that came about, just me reaching out to Buzz.


CBS SF: I had heard rumors that Dale and Buzz might be showing up for the San Francisco show. Can you confirm that? Or do you have any other special guests planned for the night?

Steve DePace: I don’t know about them coming up for the San Francisco show. So far at the Great American Music Hall show, we have the opening act the Next. That’s with Jimmy Crucifix, an old friend of ours who was in the band Crucifix. I guess the Next was the straight punk band he had before Crucifix. I’m not to familiar with them, but Flipper played with Crucifix back in the ’80s. So we invited him to play with the Next and our old friends Frightwig, who people started calling “the female Flipper” back in the ’80s, they’re playing too. They lost their drummer Cecelia [Kuhn] a couple of years ago, but they reunited. They’re going to put on a great show and they’re having some special guests.

As far as Flipper goes, we’re going to have the original sax player who played on “Sex Bomb” on the album, he’s going to be sitting in on that song. And our pal who is sort of the fifth Flipper Bruno DeSmartass {aka Steve DeMartis] is going to be sitting in on bass, probably for “Sex Bomb.” I’m not sure what other guests we’ll end up having on. But we are working on a feature-length documentary about Flipper, so we’re going to have a multi-camera video shoot going on that night as well as recording it for the documentary.

But generally speaking, it’s going to be a Flipper homecoming 40th anniversary show and I’m sure the energy is going to be very high. We’re really excited. There’s no telling what’s going to happen. That’s also been the essence of Flipper from Day 1. You never know what’s going to happen at a Flipper show and that’s always part of the attraction: the excitement, energy and chaos. That’s never gone away.

Flipper plays the Ritz in San Jose on Thursday, July 11, the Blue Lamp in Sacramento on Friday, July 12, and the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco on Friday, July 13.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on July 23, 2019, 09:37:51 AM
Hot Fish covered by WE Are The Asteroid:

https://wearetheasteroid.bandcamp.com/track/hot-fish-melvins-flipper-cover-with-different-words-and-music-because-we-only-heard-it-once

I can hear Alice Donut covering this.......
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on July 23, 2019, 09:45:45 AM
You speak of Alice Donut!  8)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: jules on July 23, 2019, 10:12:04 AM
Can't help it. It just comes out.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: the bloat on July 23, 2019, 09:53:11 PM
I’m really liking this hot ‘lil EP! It’s comforting to hear the sludgy tones of yesteryear. Buzz’s guitar is still alive and who knew you could make a six minute long song with only two chords! Another fantastic addition to the Melvins catalog. Can’t wait to hear what they do next!
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: black stallion on July 29, 2019, 12:53:35 PM
sounds good, Sacrifice is more similar to the original Flipper version. wonder if Flipper will have this ep during the upcoming European tour
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: johnnyg on September 05, 2019, 03:33:22 PM
Here's my hot take. I dig it- especially sacrifice.

https://www.punknews.org/review/16730/melvins-flipper-hot-fish-ep
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Nizamark on September 05, 2019, 05:34:10 PM
^good review. thanks for posting
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: meezer on September 13, 2019, 09:43:32 AM
Getchyer dirty hands on Flipper's copies.... before the flippers do!  :lol:

https://www.hellomerch.com/collections/flipper/products/melvins-flipper-hot-fish-ep-vinyl (https://www.hellomerch.com/collections/flipper/products/melvins-flipper-hot-fish-ep-vinyl)
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: GrimReaper on September 13, 2019, 10:32:54 AM
Cool Meez, got one.
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: black stallion on October 12, 2019, 11:19:03 AM
favourite tune: I Saw You Shine
Title: Re: Flipper + Melvins split
Post by: Dumpster D on October 12, 2019, 08:33:30 PM
favourite tune: I Saw You Shine


REDRUM!!!! REDRUM!!!!  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=setClTYSS-k