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Title: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 10, 2006, 09:47:05 PM
This probably isn't worth its own post, but I'm gonna do it anyway:

How come there's no lyrics thread for the two albums the Melvins did with Jello Biafra?

Is it because Jello wrote and sang the songs instead of Buzz?  Does that make it not count as a Melvins album?

Just curious.

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 11, 2006, 04:00:10 AM
The lyrics are printed in the CD sleeve.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 11, 2006, 12:15:20 PM
i love your avatar, joe.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Eponymous on December 11, 2006, 05:55:09 PM
You could add them to the wiki.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
Some people (me) like to read the lyrics before buying an album, not after.

I doubt I'd end up getting either of those anyway, I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it, but I was mostly just curious as to why it wasn't included in the lyrics section of the forum, since it does seem to me that it would qualify as a Melvins album.

You know, since the Melvins are playing on it the entire time.

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Eponymous on December 11, 2006, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it

Why do you make this assumption?
Do you find his other stuff offensive?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 11, 2006, 09:16:58 PM
i bet he really means biased politically
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 12, 2006, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: Eponymous on December 11, 2006, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it

Why do you make this assumption?
Do you find his other stuff offensive?

I don't care too much about the political stuff, but there was a lot of swearing and stuff on the Dead Kennedy's albums.  Thats what I mean by "offensive," stuff like swearing, other explicit material.  I don't care about the political bias at all.  Or political anything for that matter.

I figure some of that type of stuff is on the Jello/Melvins albums, but like I said, I wasn't planning on buying them, I was just going around on the lyrics board and I noticed those albums weren't included, and wondered why not.

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 12, 2006, 07:37:28 PM
I've read some of your posts before, and I know you appreciate the Melvins a lot as well for not using any offensive words and swearing. But, come on dude, don't you think it's a bit close minded to judge something by something as words? Those are just words, meaningless. The sound, and what the whole thing expresses, music AND the vocals, is what counts, and not listening to something because there's bunch of 'fuck's' in it, is just pretty blunt. I mean, a band could have an album with some 'offensive' lyrics and weak riffs in it and you won't buy it, because of the lyrics anyway, right? While in the meantime, you're loving a band with only punishing, offensive, aggressive and evil riffs! Sorry dude, I just had to get this off my chest.

Now, I'm sorry if this is gonna break your heart, but I just have to do this.

http://www.themelvins.net/discography/special/trilogy/index.htm
http://www.themelvins.net/discography/special/trilogy/pages/mel2_jpg.htm
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 12, 2006, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 12, 2006, 07:37:28 PM


Now, I'm sorry if this is gonna break your heart, but I just have to do this.

http://www.themelvins.net/discography/special/trilogy/index.htm
http://www.themelvins.net/discography/special/trilogy/pages/mel2_jpg.htm
haha
he's too young
noooooo!!!

Quote from: al27 on December 12, 2006, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: Eponymous on December 11, 2006, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it

Why do you make this assumption?
Do you find his other stuff offensive?

I don't care too much about the political stuff, but there was a lot of swearing and stuff on the Dead Kennedy's albums.  Thats what I mean by "offensive," stuff like swearing, other explicit material.  I don't care about the political bias at all.  Or political anything for that matter.

I figure some of that type of stuff is on the Jello/Melvins albums, but like I said, I wasn't planning on buying them, I was just going around on the lyrics board and I noticed those albums weren't included, and wondered why not.

-al27
how can you figure there is going to be political stuff on the jelvins album but not cursing?
i mean, if you know that jello is political, you would, no should know cussing is gonna be in there as well.
are you serious?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 12, 2006, 08:42:38 PM
The Melvins are a very political band in a non-governmental way.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Eponymous on December 12, 2006, 10:35:15 PM
I don't recall a lot of swearing on Dead Kennedys albums.

Apart from "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" and "Too Drunk to Fuck".
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: klump on December 13, 2006, 08:39:41 AM
Quote from: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
Some people (me) like to read the lyrics before buying an album, not after.

I doubt I'd end up getting either of those anyway, I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it, but I was mostly just curious as to why it wasn't included in the lyrics section of the forum, since it does seem to me that it would qualify as a Melvins album.

You know, since the Melvins are playing on it the entire time.

-al27


posts like this offends  me.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: FartLips on December 13, 2006, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: klump on December 13, 2006, 08:39:41 AM
Quote from: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
Some people (me) like to read the lyrics before buying an album, not after.

I doubt I'd end up getting either of those anyway, I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it, but I was mostly just curious as to why it wasn't included in the lyrics section of the forum, since it does seem to me that it would qualify as a Melvins album.

You know, since the Melvins are playing on it the entire time.

-al27


posts like this offends  me.

posts about posts like this offend me.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: klump on December 13, 2006, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: FART LIPS on December 13, 2006, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: klump on December 13, 2006, 08:39:41 AM
Quote from: al27 on December 11, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
Some people (me) like to read the lyrics before buying an album, not after.

I doubt I'd end up getting either of those anyway, I mean, it is Jello Biafra, I'm sure its got some stuff thats fairly offensive in it, but I was mostly just curious as to why it wasn't included in the lyrics section of the forum, since it does seem to me that it would qualify as a Melvins album.

You know, since the Melvins are playing on it the entire time.

-al27


posts like this offends  me.

posts about posts like this offend me.

posts about posts that offende me, offend me
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Lunica on December 13, 2006, 11:20:10 AM
I'm offended by letters. Its like they want to eat my leg. They make me get nightmares.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 14, 2006, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on December 12, 2006, 08:04:32 PM
how can you figure there is going to be political stuff on the jelvins album but not cursing?

I didn't say that there wasn't going to be cursing, I imagined that there probably is.

I say that because of Jello's work with DK, its deliberately controversial.  Whether he's always serious about the messages he puts in his work, Jello seems to want to stir people up.  And he is very political.  Thats why I assumed there would be similar content in the work he had done with the Melvins.  If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry if I got you guys all worked up over this, my point in posting the question is simply this:

I thought this was, like, Melvins lyrics HQ.  I then realized that those albums weren't on there.  This post simply asked, "why not?"

And since I now know that the lyrics are actually included with the album, once again, "Why not?"

It just seems to me that it would make the page that much more complete.

Thats all, nothing else.

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 14, 2006, 09:06:06 PM
I don't like profanity either in lyrics or in normal conversation.  It's not close minded at all and words DO mean things. You will not find profanity in the bulk of Melvins material for capitalist reasons. Melvins lyrics are very interesting without mimicking the "rebel attitude" and the "fury" of topical pseudo-political singers or gangsta rappers using profanity in expressing their "outrage" with the way life seemingly is for them.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Idlehanz on December 14, 2006, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom II on December 14, 2006, 09:06:06 PM
I don't like profanity either in lyrics or in normal conversation.  It's not close minded at all and words DO mean things. You will not find profanity in the bulk of Melvins material for capitalist reasons. Melvins lyrics are very interesting without mimicking the "rebel attitude" and the "fury" of topical pseudo-political singers or gangsta rappers using profanity in expressing their "outrage" with the way life seemingly is for them.

I believe George Carlin said, and I'm paraphrasing....." Words don't hurt people, it's the ideas behind the words"  I've no problem with cussing, and I actually believe a good f-bomb now and then is called for.  Cussing can add needed emotion to a conversation.  Don't get me wrong, I don't walk down the street screaming " Fuckadoodleshitplop!!" at the top of my lungs, I just think a good swear now and then doesn't hurt anybody.  In the right company of course.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 15, 2006, 01:12:44 AM
I agree with the both of you, and of course am aware of the facts that people can have different interpretations of words than me. But it's still no reason for not to pick up a cd when it has offensive words on it, a cd is about the music, and the total piece of it, not just the words.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: klump on December 15, 2006, 03:17:27 AM
I think its a bit funny since Jello fought the MPRC for a long time , and used a lot of time and money fighting for the right of speech...

that wich is offensive to you, might not be offensive for me.

I think cursewords often show a lack of lingo, but I think everyone shoud have the freedom to utter a word once a while (for more effect too).

but would you stop liking a song if you found out that there was a curseword in it?

I think censorship sometimes  equal sticking your head in the sand.

Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 15, 2006, 10:08:19 AM
i'm glad there is someone on here hated more than me
how dare i try to defend you!
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 15, 2006, 11:14:14 AM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on December 15, 2006, 10:08:19 AM
i'm glad there is someone on here hated more than me


cappy! have you met dog tired?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Lunica on December 15, 2006, 11:17:14 AM
And...! I guess the reason it wasn't posted here, is because we mainly use this as a forum to transcribe lyrics that aren't written down all over the place. When they already are, you can just get the CD and read if off the cover, right. Its much easier. Why would you be interested in reading the lyrics looking for cursewords if you don't even think its good enough to buy? Are you gonna print it out and pour whiteout all over it?

Sorry, I'm kinda bored :)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: brian on December 15, 2006, 11:52:35 AM
The notion that a word like "shit" is more offensive than a word like "crap" or the word "fuck" is more offensive than the word "intercourse" in general is comical to me. I find that people who take issues with these sorts of things are often wrong about a great many other things which have been scientifically proven as otherwise.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Idlehanz on December 15, 2006, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: brian on December 15, 2006, 11:52:35 AM
The notion that a word like "shit" is more offensive than a word like "crap" or the word "fuck" is more offensive than the word "intercourse" in general is comical to me. I find that people who take issues with these sorts of things are often wrong about a great many other things which have been scientifically proven as otherwise.

Bravo!
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Chuck Hartford on December 15, 2006, 12:08:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 15, 2006, 12:11:33 PM
Quote from: Lunica on December 15, 2006, 11:17:14 AM
Sorry, I'm kinda bored :)

No shit! What did you expect? It's normal, very normal. You're not the first one. Let me explain this. When people will spend a weekend with me, they'll get bored afterwards. Not just a little, but extremely bored. It's a common side effect. You'll feel bored, depressing maybe, or even suicidal. I should've warned you before. Is klump doing OK? I would check if I was you,  after all, you're Norwegian, remember? It's in your genes!

Buzz just texted me he's feeling bored! Poor guy.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 15, 2006, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: Chuck Hartford on December 15, 2006, 12:08:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc)

Shit, I could have sworn you had posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69XhM8O_THg.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: Lunica on December 15, 2006, 11:17:14 AM
And...! I guess the reason it wasn't posted here, is because we mainly use this as a forum to transcribe lyrics that aren't written down all over the place. When they already are, you can just get the CD and read if off the cover, right. Its much easier. Why would you be interested in reading the lyrics looking for cursewords if you don't even think its good enough to buy? Are you gonna print it out and pour whiteout all over it?

Sorry, I'm kinda bored :)

Okay, I see.  The Melvins lyrics page is there because the Melvins generally don't have their lyrics in the actual CD.  I got you, I understand.

As far as the lyrics being "written down all over the place," I actually can't find lyrics to the Jello/Melvins albums anywhere.  I was interested in taking a look at them, since I've been proven wrong regarding these things before, and I was thinking that maybe, just maybe, I would feel comfortable owning one, since I had heard they were really good albums.  But knowing Jello's past musical efforts (the DK stuff), I wouldn't just pick it up without actually having been able to take a look at the lyrical content first.

Then I realized that this board had a whole section regarding lyrics where everyone could post the lyrics to all the Melvins albums, but then I realized that the Jello Biafra ones weren't on there.

All I wanted to know was "why not?" and I got an answer to that, thank you.

Also, I'm sorry if I've given any of you the impression that I'm somehow close minded or judgemental about these things.  That was not my intent.  I don't mean to infringe on your right to listen to whatever you want just the same as I would ask you to respect my veiws on profanity even if you don't agree with them.  I'm very much a "live and let live" kind of guy, really I am.

That all said, is there any potentially "offensive" material on the Jello/Melvins albums?  Were my speculations correct?

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 15, 2006, 12:27:02 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:15:32 PM


is there any potentially "offensive" material on the Jello/Melvins albums?  Were my speculations correct?


did you speculate that there was cursing?    I don't recall that there is any on either album. 
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:52:42 PM
I kinda thought there'd be some swearing.  Maybe I was wrong.

I guess the way I look at this kind of thing is as follows:  If this were a movie, what rating would it get, and why?

If you feel like answering that question, it'd be great.

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 15, 2006, 01:08:29 PM
It's a good album, and you should buy it. The Melvins are on it, and Jello sings great on it. I'm not being sarcastic here, I sincerely like that album. I doubt if I will ever buy that second one, I probably will, someday, but Never Breathe is a great punk rock album with the Melvins backing up Jello! Also, the lyrics are inside, so you can sing along as loud as you can. Wait, since I'm getting a bit tired of this, let me take a look at the lyrics..... Shit, I can't find it, and all my cd's are categorized, so a friend must have it. Shit. Who? Aaaargh...
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 15, 2006, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:52:42 PM

If this were a movie, what rating would it get, and why?


dude...  PG,    MAYBE PG-13.    the subject matter is for the most part political and/or social.   
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 15, 2006, 01:57:49 PM
Ok, forget it. Jello sings he likes child porn in the first song already.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on December 15, 2006, 03:45:58 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:52:42 PM
I kinda thought there'd be some swearing.  Maybe I was wrong.

I guess the way I look at this kind of thing is as follows:  If this were a movie, what rating would it get, and why?

If you feel like answering that question, it'd be great.

-al27
I'm curious, why are you worried about offensive words in Melvins albums?  Are you going to be screening Melvins albums for second graders?
I'd be more offended that dale used to have a Nambla sticker on his drum set.  Or that Buzzo associates with pornographers.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 15, 2006, 03:52:01 PM
No one here in this thread has said anything about government restriction of freedom of speech. You are free to say what you want, but you must understand that there can be consequences about what you say whether saying it in anger or not. Ask Michael Richards. 

You all must understand that with freedom comes responsibility or if you think that freedom means you can do anything without fearing reprisal if it does harm whether physical or not within just societal norms, then you clearly do not deserve to be free.

But anyway, Melvins > Jelvins.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 15, 2006, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Dudbean on December 15, 2006, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 15, 2006, 01:08:29 PM
Shit, I can't find it, and all my cd's are categorized, so a friend must have it.

Mr. Recess,

This is going to sound like a dumb question, but how do you organize your CD's? Alphabetical? Group? Genre? Chronological? I've had people make fun of me for having my CD collection organized, but how else are you going to find one album in a pile of hundreds??

Exactly. I have three cd recks, they're all named Benno (http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/51107_PE150553_S3.jpg), and I pretty much order every shelf by band, and by genre, which is defined by me of course. The entire upper shelf row is Melvins, then there's a lot of Earth, Sunn, Boris, Harvey Milk, Sleep etc. But I also have a shelf with 'older music', with Blue Cheer, MC5, Sabbath, Stooges, Velvet Underground. I think I also have Tom Waits, Nick Cave, Mark Lanegan, Daniel Johnston, Jeff Buckley and Charles Manson on one row. And then there's 'noisey' stuff, etc.

People can joke about it how it makes no sense, but it does. I was at MacBastards's place last Monday, and his father had THOUSANDS of records, vinyl. John, how much does he have? Insanely. And all of them ordered alphabetically. Pretty impressive. He had cool stuff too: Abba, Residents, Slayer. Who cares if their's a system in it, as you long as it makes sense to you. As you, I'd like to be able to grab my cd's really fast so I can blast them.

Oddly enoygh, on my computer everything is ordered alphabetically; there's a folder 'a-b-c', with all bands that start with these letters, and in those folders are the albums. But I put real artist names, like John Zorn and Jeff Buckley, both under J.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Eponymous on December 15, 2006, 10:05:56 PM
I have over a thousand CDs (even had my own cabinet built to house them).

I have them organised alphabetically, then by year for each artist.

And, yes, it's the only way to find what you're looking for. The drawback, though, is that if something has been put back in the wrong place, it takes a really long time to find something.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: mopafeena on December 15, 2006, 11:57:36 PM
I just throw my CDs on random shelves in random positions. It can be annoying sometimes trying to find what i'm looking for.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: EGO the Living Planet on December 16, 2006, 02:01:35 AM

I don't beleive that there is anything offensive on the Jelvins albums, but then again, I haven't the foggiest idea (other than two songs previously mentioned in this thread) what anyone would find offensive about Dead Kennedys either.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 16, 2006, 06:24:21 AM
Quote from: EGO the Living Planet on December 16, 2006, 02:01:35 AM
I don't beleive that there is anything offensive on the Jelvins albums, but then again, I haven't the foggiest idea (other than two songs previously mentioned in this thread) what anyone would find offensive about Dead Kennedys either.

Possibly to most people it's the name alone.  A Dead Kennedy, so horribly offensive.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 16, 2006, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on December 15, 2006, 03:45:58 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:52:42 PM
I kinda thought there'd be some swearing.  Maybe I was wrong.

I guess the way I look at this kind of thing is as follows:  If this were a movie, what rating would it get, and why?

If you feel like answering that question, it'd be great.

-al27
I'm curious, why are you worried about offensive words in Melvins albums?  Are you going to be screening Melvins albums for second graders?
I'd be more offended that dale used to have a Nambla sticker on his drum set.  Or that Buzzo associates with pornographers.

I try to live a fairly clean life, and that includes my entertainment.  So I screen lyrics for myself.  If I find out that it has stuff I don't want to hear in it, I don't buy it.

I know some of you might not get what the big deal is, and honestly I don't care if you do or not.  I don't try to force my views on life on other people, they have free will and can do what they please.  But so do I, and thats how I live.

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 16, 2006, 12:58:22 PM
I appreciate and respect that you don't try to force your views on others, but still I'm curious how you can listen to a band that put a big swastika on one of their vinyl records, and have done many other questionable stuff. I am just wondering if that is evidence, that you, as many others, care about the music mostly, and not the words they are using in the lyrics. There's a Melvins track on the Singles, Dallas or Jacksonville, on which Buzz repeatedly srceams 'F*** You!' to the audience. Doesn't that stop you from listening to the Melvins? And if (apparently) not, why?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Lunica on December 16, 2006, 01:05:02 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 16, 2006, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on December 15, 2006, 03:45:58 PM
Quote from: al27 on December 15, 2006, 12:52:42 PM
I kinda thought there'd be some swearing.  Maybe I was wrong.

I guess the way I look at this kind of thing is as follows:  If this were a movie, what rating would it get, and why?

If you feel like answering that question, it'd be great.

-al27
I'm curious, why are you worried about offensive words in Melvins albums?  Are you going to be screening Melvins albums for second graders?
I'd be more offended that dale used to have a Nambla sticker on his drum set.  Or that Buzzo associates with pornographers.

I try to live a fairly clean life, and that includes my entertainment.  So I screen lyrics for myself.  If I find out that it has stuff I don't want to hear in it, I don't buy it.

I know some of you might not get what the big deal is, and honestly I don't care if you do or not.  I don't try to force my views on life on other people, they have free will and can do what they please.  But so do I, and thats how I live.

-al27

And how on earth can reading the bad words be better than listening to them? They're still the same words..
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 16, 2006, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 16, 2006, 12:58:22 PM
I appreciate and respect that you don't try to force your views on others, but still I'm curious how you can listen to a band that put a big swastika on one of their vinyl records, and have done many other questionable stuff. I am just wondering if that is evidence, that you, as many others, care about the music mostly, and not the words they are using in the lyrics. There's a Melvins track on the Singles, Dallas or Jacksonville, on which Buzz repeatedly srceams 'F*** You!' to the audience. Doesn't that stop you from listening to the Melvins? And if (apparently) not, why?

He can select not to buy those particular albums. More often than not, Melvins material does not have profanity.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 16, 2006, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom II on December 16, 2006, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 16, 2006, 12:58:22 PM
I appreciate and respect that you don't try to force your views on others, but still I'm curious how you can listen to a band that put a big swastika on one of their vinyl records, and have done many other questionable stuff. I am just wondering if that is evidence, that you, as many others, care about the music mostly, and not the words they are using in the lyrics. There's a Melvins track on the Singles, Dallas or Jacksonville, on which Buzz repeatedly srceams 'F*** You!' to the audience. Doesn't that stop you from listening to the Melvins? And if (apparently) not, why?

He can select not to buy those particular albums. More often than not, Melvins material does not have profanity.

I know he can, but I want to hear that from him, if that's the case.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: tommyhc on December 16, 2006, 06:48:26 PM
Clean

Isn't that a bald guy who polishes floors.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Idlehanz on December 16, 2006, 07:17:01 PM
I like how half this thread is having a great conversation about free speech and cussing and the other is talking about how they organize cd's  :D


Just made me laugh....a little bit.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: anaconda on December 16, 2006, 09:37:48 PM
hey al!! are you that old poster 'tony'?
he was a religious hard ass as well.

i bet jesus said 'fuck' when he missed a nail
and hit his thumb.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Idlehanz on December 16, 2006, 09:49:17 PM
Quote from: anaconda on December 16, 2006, 09:37:48 PM


i bet jesus said 'fuck' when he missed a nail
and hit his thumb.

:lol:
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 16, 2006, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom II on December 16, 2006, 02:25:56 PM
He can select not to buy those particular albums. More often than not, Melvins material does not have profanity.

Thats pretty much it, thanks Joe.

As far as what the Melvins have done from time to time (swearing at a show, the swastica on the record thing, ect.), if I honestly didn't listen to a band just because they might have cussed on a live set, or said a swear word in their lifetime, my CD collection would drop from around 200 to probably 0.  I mean, I have Jerry Lee Lewis Live At The Star Club, totally clean, enjoyable album, but that guy most definitely some stuff in his lifetime that I wouldn't have agreed with.  But, I don't care about that, I'm certainly not here to judge people.  I care about the music itslef, whats being put down on tape for that particular album, I don't base my buying descisions on who the artists themselves were/are like as human beings.

Like Megadeth for example, they have some stuff on their albums that would keep me from buying most of them.  But they put out a greatest hits (the Capitol Punishment one, not the more recent greatest hits) that was full of songs that do happen to be acceptable by my particular standards.  I own that compilation, even though I'd probably never actually own a Megadeth studio album due to the content on them that I wouldn't choose to listen to.

You can't expect me to collect albums based on whether or not the bands entire catalogue is acceptable to my particular tastes regarding content, just like I couldn't reasonably purchase albums based on whether I think that artist lived a good life or not.

Honestly, I can't believe I'm taking this much heat for having the apparently unbelievable stance that I don't have to listen to swear words if I don't want to.

And no, anaconda, I'm neither "tony" nor a "religious hard ass."  I'm not saying you guys don't have the right to listen to whatever you please.  I understand that, I'm not here to question free speech or anything like that, I very much love the 1st ammendment, I know how valuable those rights are. 

Man, I don't know how my post somehow got interpreted as "you can't listen to Jello Biafra."

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Chuck Hartford on December 16, 2006, 11:49:47 PM
If I where young Allen I'd to say to the fellow board members "Fuck your opinion maybe your a dumb ass . "  Something tells me that he is not going to do that.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 17, 2006, 07:29:12 AM
Thanks for your explanation, Al. Even though you sometimes completely disagree with someone, it's good and healthy to be able to talk about it. More people should do that, because at the end of the day we all come here because we share a favorite band.

After your last post, I had to think of Herman Brood's mom. Herman Brood was Holland's most famous 'Rock 'n Roll junkie', and even though he has done some bad things I life no one should be proud of, deep inside he was a real sweetheart I think. I genuinely believe he was not a bad person, and his mother also knew that. He had a close bond with his mom and even though he was a junkie, his mother was able not to think of all the things he had done she would absolutely reject, but always felt this eternal love for her son. They made a few tv appearances where they really showed that, and it was heart warming and real.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 17, 2006, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 17, 2006, 07:29:12 AM
Thanks for your explanation, Al. Even though you sometimes completely disagree with someone, it's good and healthy to be able to talk about it.

Well, I'm glad we've come to a better understanding of each other.  I try to be a reasonable person, all I ask is that people try to be the same to me.

Quote from: norecess on December 17, 2006, 07:29:12 AM
More people should do that, because at the end of the day we all come here because we share a favorite band.

Yeah, how about those Melvins?  I started listening to Stoner Witch again today, man what an album.  Its the first Melvins album I ever bought.  I think that one has some of the best drum production of any of 'em.  The drumming on "Revolve" (also known as "Everyone's favorite Metallica song" not that thats a bad thing, I love the song!) just rumbles through my car, its awesome!

And "Sweet Willy Rollbar" was in a Tony Hawk game (thats how I first heard the Melvins) and it bears the distinct title of "The only Melvins song I ever bothered to learn on my guitar."  Killer song!

And "June Bug" wooo, that track just tears!!!

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: anaconda on December 18, 2006, 12:00:26 AM
you're a good egg in this bushel
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: GrimReaper on December 18, 2006, 06:36:35 AM

What was the question again?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 18, 2006, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: anaconda on December 18, 2006, 12:00:26 AM
you're a good egg in this bushel

Thanks! :D

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 18, 2006, 06:06:26 PM
fuckin' goddamn
it's gettin' gay in this mess!

(i'm taking the position of the dickhead of the thread)

i bet ya like stryper, huh honky?
what do you think about the beginning to hog leg?

(i'm just kidding you pal)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 18, 2006, 07:22:28 PM
You all need to leave him alone about it. He's already stated his reasons. Do not be threatened if he has standards that he wants to live by.  He's not pushing them on anybody.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 18, 2006, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom II on December 18, 2006, 07:22:28 PM
You all need to leave him alone about it. He's already stated his reasons. Do not be threatened if he has standards that he wants to live by.  He's not pushing them on anybody.
now you're being a dick yourself
you're kinda sucking his cock a bit

I CLEARLY said i was joking around, and I don't care about it (he listens to melvins which is good in my book.)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 19, 2006, 08:47:43 AM
It's posts like this that I doubt very seriously that you would say to my face. Did I address "you" specifically? Or did I write you "all"? Read the post again.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom II on December 19, 2006, 08:47:43 AM
It's posts like this that I doubt very seriously that you would say to my face. Did I address "you" specifically? Or did I write you "all"? Read the post again.
how do you know how i am in person?
you wouldn't know.
i took it personal because it's the first post for a while that can be misconstrued as negative
which in fact it is not
so you basically addressed me with it, go back to the last page and it's clear that i'm the first one for the last few posts.

i didn't really hassle the guy, so don't try to make an example of me, because it's pretty idiotic.
you should read what i have to say instead of skimming it.

i have nothing against you, joe
you just completely misunderstood what i was saying or didn't understand.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: norecess on December 19, 2006, 02:12:00 PM
Hardly no one here knows each other in person, so that's why we base our opinions on what we post here, that's the way it works.

klump and Lun met me and were very surprised I wasn't the asshole they thought I would be!
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Lunica on December 19, 2006, 02:16:15 PM
You're not an asshole? :)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 19, 2006, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Joe Deutrom II on December 19, 2006, 08:47:43 AM
It's posts like this that I doubt very seriously that you would say to my face. Did I address "you" specifically? Or did I write you "all"? Read the post again.
how do you know how i am in person?
you wouldn't know.
i took it personal because it's the first post for a while that can be misconstrued as negative
which in fact it is not
so you basically addressed me with it, go back to the last page and it's clear that i'm the first one for the last few posts.

i didn't really hassle the guy, so don't try to make an example of me, because it's pretty idiotic.
you should read what i have to say instead of skimming it.

i have nothing against you, joe
you just completely misunderstood what i was saying or didn't understand.


You can think that I was referring to you.  I can't change how you took what I said and personalized it. I read where you said you were kidding.  And I maintain that what I posted was in general. The guy does not like profanity in lyrics, I don't know why that is so seemingly weird or arouses more than just a passing curiosity about it from people here.   
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 19, 2006, 04:56:13 PM
*sticks his nose in*

I kinda agree with joe here.  al27 has never been rude, never been judgemental, and never been pushy.  he simply asks us to tell him if the lyrics are clean or not.  he has said many times that he believes in "live and let live".   if we want to listen to filth he is totally cool with that.  he is just asking us to help him understand what exactly it is he is purchasing.

seems like a pretty solid dude to me.


I know cappy was just goofing.  he goofs.   I just think the majority of the people here are filth mongers so they are curious about the thought processes of someone a little different.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 05:20:34 PM
oh, and i agree with joe as well
it just seemed to me as if it was directed towards me (sorry to say it still kinda seems as if it was.)

but overall it isn't him vs. me, perhaps it was just a big misunderstanding
we both like the guy, so there is no more arguing

glen's right, i joke
and so do many other people on this board.
i think some of the other people that have replied can't comprehend (at first) a melvins
fan who doesn't appreciate cursing or find it ethical to in their own life

but i really was asking a serious question.
al, what do you think of the beginning to hog leg?
does it anger you?
i'm assuming you are a christian.
it's something that doesn't have cursing in it

oh and for the record, i like to curse
i won't stop cursing
and i appreciate that al doesn't mind that, but chooses not to do that himself.

anyway, we all have been picked on in this board, it's nothing new or different.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: al27 on December 19, 2006, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: glen on December 19, 2006, 04:56:13 PM
I kinda agree with joe here.  al27 has never been rude, never been judgemental, and never been pushy.  he simply asks us to tell him if the lyrics are clean or not.  he has said many times that he believes in "live and let live".   if we want to listen to filth he is totally cool with that.  he is just asking us to help him understand what exactly it is he is purchasing.

Thank you, I'm glad someone gets it.




Yikes, I never imagined my little post would stir all this stuff up! :shock:

-al27
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Branch Breaker on December 19, 2006, 05:39:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmNAPxRrIxE
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 05:52:57 PM
ok, thanks for answering my question.



that's a great point branch.

everyone should know this, since someone wants to know
when i'm offended and challenged i am a mean fuck
jokes should be taken as funny, even for the one being made "fun" of
i've been made fun of a million times on this board, i seem to bare the brunt of most of the jokes and such
i really don't give a fuck if i offend someone, especially if it's a joke since it's not real
but i am who i am on this board, i think the person who knows this the most is maarten
we've had many conversations on how people act online, and have never been
a bad guy to show how cool i am to other people.
but don't question me how i am in real life
i give you undoctrined photographs not hiding my face (with exception of my avatar, it's supposed to be artsy,)
paleness, how thin or small i am.
you can be guarenteed what i say would be said to your face, and i think all of you can believe that.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: tommyhc on December 19, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: Branch Breaker on December 19, 2006, 05:39:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmNAPxRrIxE
nicely fuhk-ing said.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 06:13:22 PM
this board is starting to enrage me!!!!!!!
:evil: :twisted: :evil: :roll: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
                                   :microwave:

someone give me an icewater bath, quick
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 19, 2006, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 06:13:22 PM
this board is starting to enrage me!!!!!!!



dude,  did moms hook you up with that smoke?     

you need a TO.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 08:46:37 PM
haha
read the message i gave to you
it's even more weird.

are you gonna smoke pot with your son/daughter?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: FartLips on December 19, 2006, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: tommyhc on December 19, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: Branch Breaker on December 19, 2006, 05:39:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmNAPxRrIxE
nicely fuhk-ing said.
and apply that to everything.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 09:58:14 PM
what happened to the KE in your post?


joe i love you
and al, i'm beginning to love you

let's really toke up together.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: GrimReaper on December 19, 2006, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 19, 2006, 02:12:00 PM
Hardly no one here knows each other in person, so that's why we base our opinions on what we post here, that's the way it works.

klump and Lun met me and were very surprised I wasn't the asshole they thought I would be!
:lol:
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on December 19, 2006, 10:55:25 PM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 06:13:22 PM
this board is starting to enrage me!!!!!!!
:evil: :twisted: :evil: :roll: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
                                   :microwave:

someone give me an icewater bath, quick
(http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/corbis/DGT425/CB107727.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 19, 2006, 11:04:03 PM
There is definitely no hard feelings.
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: mopafeena on December 19, 2006, 11:10:41 PM
(http://www.parrygamepreserve.com/images/familyTies.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 20, 2006, 07:02:49 AM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on December 19, 2006, 08:46:37 PM

are you gonna smoke pot with your son/daughter?

hell no.  I would never condone drugs to my children.  they are bad and children should not do them.

what kind of parent would I be if I gave and/or did drugs with my kids?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: Mad Arab on December 20, 2006, 08:09:43 AM
Quote from: mopafeena on December 19, 2006, 11:10:41 PM
(http://www.parrygamepreserve.com/images/familyTies.jpg)

I say ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho ho ho ho ho ho ho hee hee hee hee hee hee hee ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: glen on December 20, 2006, 10:22:12 AM
wheres skippy?
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: tommyhc on December 20, 2006, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: Branch Breaker on December 19, 2006, 05:39:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmNAPxRrIxE

The video you posted in the above quote is precisely what I believe Frank Zappa was trying to Convey to these elders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
Title: Re: Quick Melvins lyrics question
Post by: mopafeena on December 20, 2006, 10:09:30 PM
Quote from: glen on December 20, 2006, 10:22:12 AM
wheres skippy?

(http://thesickos.free.fr/Skippy.jpg)

There you go.