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Melvins Discussion / DINOSAUR JR 'recognition' demo w/ Dale Crover
« on: August 06, 2017, 09:24:10 AM »

nice story behind this as written by Lou Barlow on his fb page:

i’m not gonna lie (like i usually do?), recording my 2 songs for Dinosaur Jr’s ‘Farm’ LP was really was our second reunion-era record and though contributing to the ‘Beyond’ went surprisingly well, ‘Farm’ was another story.. afterwards I vowed, to myself, that when and if we did another record i would figure out an better way to present my songs (specifically drum-parts) to J and Murph..
a few years later when we began work on the songs that became ‘I Bet On Sky’ I was still searching for a plan to get my tunes across.. i was freaking out about it until I had a vivid dream in which I asked Dale Crover to play drums on some song-ideas..
the answer was right in front of me!..I knew Dale well, he lived close-by, our families hung out together, we lived parallel touring/fathering lives.. he had even helped me out with my ‘Goodnight Unknown’ solo LP..
you may ask: why didn’t you go to him in the first place? why did you have to have a dream about it? well, i never assume that anyone -wants- to play music with me (yes, even people i have played with before) , in fact i think the opposite.. I know lots of people that have no trouble calling fellow musicians to collaborate, to be on their records etc…I’m not one of those people..I have a really difficult time asking for favors and i doesn’t even occur to me to ask for help when i need it.. it’s just the way it is (do -not- tell me how i shouldn’t feel like that etc., it’s just a thing with me, ok? i don’t understand it either, it’s annoying)
anyway..i woke up from the dream and then mustered up the courage to call Dale.. anyone who knows Dale knows this is ridiculous because he’s easier than easy to talk to and always down to play music ..but, i’m a reject so i had to psych myself up to it..
he came down to my space and laid down f-in perfect drum ideas and i finished writing the music for 3 tunes in about an hour and a half with him behind the kit.. it was great. I had 3 reasonably clear-sounding, quick sketch demos to take to the sessions at J’s house..
needless to say having demos with Dale Crover piqued J and Murph’s interest and I was able to hold their focus and give them real details to chew on.. the sessions went smoothly and i was satisfied with the results.. though, honestly, Dale’s original takes on the tunes give me melancholy pangs, they’re so good..
for the latest Dinosaur Jr LP ‘Give A Glimpse..’ I made sure to -not- record the demos as well and leave more to Murph’s discretion… I also moved back east from LA so Dale wasn’t a resource anymore (swear to god that in itself made the move bittersweet)..
anyway, I yacked up a you-tube video to accompany the Dale version of Recognition so you can check it out…it had the working title ‘get addicted’..the vocals were improv’d live when we he did the drums.. i like to keep early vocal attempts as sketches and let the words form out of the gibberish..i zero in on the final lyrics when the studio version is taking shape, i like the idea of the music influencing the words..
my final anecdote about this song, the LP version in particular: i took an incidental recording of a verbal melt-down i had during the Farm sessions and placed it in the instrumental section of the song backwards (hopefully indistinguishable!) to symbolize a victory over the confusion and anger of the time.. Dale really saved my ass on that record and put my head in the right place for everything that followed

Melvins Discussion / Jam In The Van
« on: February 09, 2017, 12:52:12 PM »

Melvins Show Reviews / Leoncavallo - Milan (IT) 1 Oct 2015
« on: October 03, 2015, 05:38:53 AM »
A bit late with the review...i won't be too long..

The show took place last thursday in a big and very important squat in Milan called Leoncavallo. i got there almost an hour before, after a long day at work. Jules was already there with another friend of mine so i texted them when i was about to arrive and we met at the bar of the venue ,just in time for a beer and some chips i stole from jules ( yeah,you didn't notice that! you know, Italians do it better..EHEH).

First thing i want to say is about my english friend  :)... super nice guy with great sense of always know you'll have fun and laughs with him..and surprises... like two GODHEADSILO cd's he put in my hands as soon as i arrived and that was such a great gift i was almost embarassed  :oops:.

Big Business started early, their set was STELLAR if you ask me. the bass sound was a bit confused but still huge and the two piece was very tight.. vocals, including Coady, were perfect in the mix. i must have noticed three new songs, they started with Chump Chance and ended with an EPIC version of Lonely Lyle, with a psychedelic outro. i was very impressed and think they're actually my favourite band!

after that i had a cig alone as  jules and the other friends disappeared somewhere...waiting for the big Melvins and the Sabbath intro to start

first thing i noticed: Dale's tom was smaller than Coady's  :shock:. after this i concentrated on the show. i will not talk about set list as you probably know it very well,  i will just say  the band was very tight and Buzz had no words for the audience, which is always cool. 

sound was very loud but not perfect.... especially from my spot in front of Jared but i knew that venue had bad sound, so it wasn't Melvins' fault.

personal highlights were At The Stake, YOA and Your Blessened which sounded great. they eneded with a long drum jam with Dale&Coady shacking hands .

after another beer with Jules i went home thinking Melvins is one of the greatest live bands ever, really hoping to catch them with Jeff Pinkus, which is my favourite incarnation of the band at the moment .

PS:  no merch, just a few shirts, the latest BB's LP and a DVD. for a moment me and jules thought it was the documentary  :shock:

Melvins Discussion / Dale on The Trap Set podcast
« on: April 01, 2015, 11:35:28 AM »
Dale Talks to Joe Wong on The Trap Set podcast. Check it out here;

Melvins Discussion / Melvins bass sound
« on: November 02, 2014, 04:32:24 AM »
just watched a video from '94 with Mark D, noticed he didn't seem to use any pedal effect with his Precision bass. just clean sound!

you can tell each Melvins bassist got his own bass tone...get Pinkus for example, he's got a totally different sound than Jared

btw, if you had to tell who is your favourite bassist depending on the sound/tone, who would you pick?

Melvins Discussion / Buzz Interview on SF Weekly
« on: October 17, 2014, 04:31:01 PM »
Heavy Mental: Melvins Founder Buzz Osborne Discusses the Band's Collaboration with Members of Another Oddity, the Butthole Surfers

by Dave Pehling

While most bands that hit the 30-year mark seem content to live off their early glories, influential mavericks the Melvins continue to shred the heavy-rock envelope with gleeful experimentation and a mind-bogglingly prolific output. Over the past decade, the group, anchored by guitarist Buzz Osborne and drummer Dale Crover, has released albums in three distinct configurations. Its ferocious two-drummer lineup with Big Business principles Jared Warren and Coady Willis has released three albums and an EP. The band also issued a star-studded covers compilation, reunited with original drummer Matt Dillard for yet another effort, and, under the moniker "Melvins Lite," teamed with avant-rock bassist Trevor Dunn for the album Freak Puke and a record-breaking tour that hit all 50 states and Washington, D.C., in 51 days.

For their latest salvo, the Melvins welcomed Butthole Surfers bassist Jeff "JD" Pinkus (who played on their 30th anniversary tour last year) and Surfers guitarist Paul Leary into the fold. The new Ipecac Records disc Hold It In stands as simultaneously one of their most accessible and willfully weird recordings ever. The acerbic Osborne recently talked to SF Weekly about how the album came together and why Leary won't be joining the band on the road.

SF Weekly: How long was the idea of working with Paul and Jeff gestating prior to recording Hold It In?

Buzz Osborne : I've always been a huge Butthole Surfers fan. The first time I saw them was in the early '80s when all they had out was their first EP. I thought they were amazing. They've always been a huge influence and one of my all-time favorite bands.

So from a long time ago, I always thought it would be great to work with Paul Leary. I always thought he was a great guitar player. He's one of my guitar-playing heroes for sure. I loved their sensibility about everything. Then we got to be friends with Jeff and it kind of just went from there. Things fell into place. I don't understand why more people don't hire Paul to play guitar for them.

You mentioned in a recent interview that this is the first album where you didn't write a majority of the songs. In it, Paul mentions writing three of the tunes, but what exactly was the split?

There's a lot of stuff we sent to him and he just put his thumbprint on, you know? Where he'd play guitar and do some vocals. So he wrote three of the songs: "You Can Make Me Wait," "Eyes on You," and "I Get Along." Pinkus wrote "Nine Yards" and he wrote a couple of other ones, but most of those were more like me and Dale and Pinkus wrote them. And then there are some that I just wrote almost entirely like "Brass Cupcake," "Onions Make the Milk Taste Bad," and "Sesame Street Meat."

Me and Jeff would come up with stuff together. Me and Jeff and Dale actually jammed together. We never really did that with Paul; maybe a little bit, but not much. I'm a firm believer in letting people do their work. When you get someone like Paul to work on your record, you let them do what they want. That's what you do.

So when you were touring with Jeff last summer with the two-drummer lineup, did you have time to start working up some of the material then?

It was before that. We did some stuff with Jeff before that, and then realized we should do a whole record, but that we should do it with Paul. That's kind of how it worked.

A couple of the songs reminded me of the Buttholes' classic psychedelic swirl, specifically "Barcelonian Horseshoe Pit."

That's Jeff's song. He said he recorded that when he was on acid.

"House of Gasoline" was the other one that really echoed that kind of early Buttholes psychedelia. Did it end up that way because of their contributions, or did you have that in mind going in?

I wrote "House of Gasoline" and then those guys added their stuff on the end of it. That's how that worked. I had every intention of them doing that at the end, so yes.

I've noticed some surprise in the press for the album about the songs being more accessible, which makes me wonder if those people have heard the albums with Jared and Coady. I think those are some of the catchiest songs you've done, and this is just a continuation...

Absolutely it's a continuation, but if you listen to the Butthole Surfers, their stuff is really catchy. Everything they ever did was catchy. Even off their first EP, it's really poppy. So that wasn't a problem.

Did you know from the outset Paul wouldn't be touring for the album and did you try to convince him to go out on the road?

Yeah, kind of; Paul's kind of got his own thing going on. I would love to have him come play guitar with us. I don't know what that would entail. It probably would mean he'd have to be away from his work for longer than he would want to [Leary works extensively as a producer and mixer]. But I don't know. Maybe someday; I would love to have that be the case. It would be really fun. I'm not opposed to that in any way.

Did you give any thoughts about a second guitarist to fill in on the tour, or did you just figure there was no way to replace Paul anyway?

No, I'm open to any idea at all. We have a band that has had a bunch of different lineups and now we just did a new album with two of the guys from the Butthole Surfers. Nobody is doing anything like this. There's no other band to compare us to. None. Who? No bands do this kind of stuff. I'm really excited about that and I honestly don't feel like we have any peers at all.

Melvins Show Reviews / King Buzzo 09 Sep 2014, Carroponte, Milan-Italy
« on: September 10, 2014, 02:21:05 AM »
ok! couldn't find an asshole to go to this show with me..people are crazy,missing Buzzo due to stupid girlfriends and/or family issues...fuck that shit! i was about to miss the show because i didn't want to go alone....luckily a friend joined at the very last time . i left home pretty late...had to drive very fast (hi Buick)! got at the venue right after the supporting guy finished his set; took a good spot front stage and watched Dave Curran setting Buzz gear...Buzzo came out,he was in a good mood,i know he had some very good food here...saw a pic of him eating spaghetti somewhere!!btw,he started with BORIS!!!!  if you ask me the show could have end after this song,it was mesmerizing,especially the vocals...this guy sings like no one can do! right after that he played the Alice Cooper cover,then the usual songs from This Machine Kills Artists...i can also remember Hooch,We Are Doomed,Evil New War God and he closed with Revolve which was an highlight for me. no Suicide In Progress.
one of the best moments though was the Mike Patton story, fucking hilarious and brilliant! after the show i had a few more beers.i got a signed poster,they had also two shirts on sale. i took a pic with Buzz, was a bit nervous...i just said him: "thanks for your music".

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