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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: May 19, 2018, 04:39:36 PM »
sounds great with double bass

yeah it does. one of the highlights of the show I saw for sure ...

I really wish they would play the 2nd half of that tune live tho ... 2nd half is so good ... wonder why they never have? This line up could really nail that I think
Amen. I've been saying that for years, and exactly, this lineup is perfect for it!

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: May 18, 2018, 09:45:02 AM »
This video

Filmed May 15 in Toronto


The big multiple-singers "choir" vocals were one of the coolest things about the Big Biz sound.
Glad to see them bring it in full force with JD and McDonald! :D
Pretty cool new muumuu too!  :)

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: May 17, 2018, 02:40:49 PM »
Why Steven can't just play the Eye Flys bassline without putting his Hollywood shit on it will never cease to baffle me.
Well that's just the way he is.

I like new members putting their sauce on older material, it keeps the group interesting to watch but doing the most on something like Eye Flys completely misses the point of the song to me.
True, it's quite inappropriate.
That ominous bass line steadily creeping through all the weirdness and occasional spasms of other instruments is what holds the song together.
Heck, that bass line is half (or more) of what makes this song.
Steven unfortuntately is too much of a showoff to just play it straight.

pinkus is the unsung hero of the new eye flys. that crazy whirling stuff he does is awesome.
Impossible to disagree.
Though with what Steven does, maybe Pinkus should have carried the main part, and leave the weird effects to Steven.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: May 05, 2018, 07:58:05 AM »
I love how Dale "conducts" the bassists with these hand motions a la Michael Gira in the beginning! :)

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The next logical step is to have two drummers, two bassists and two guitarists.
I was thinking just yesterday how it would be cool if they did some kind of special, one off show with a large, extended line-up. Or alternatively a few shows at one venue like those Spaceland residency shows. It would be cool to see this line-up.

Buzz - Guitar
Adam Jones - Guitar
Dale - Drums
Coady - Drums
Kevin - Bass
Jeff - Bass
Trevor - Double Bass

Have you seen this? Melvins with Helms Alee – Night Goat with double everything. Kicked ass.


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Melvins Discussion / Re: Adam Jones
« on: May 04, 2018, 11:36:35 AM »
There's also that Bleeder project... did that comic+soundtrack ever get released?

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Melvins Discussion / Re: How About Dem Dere Freaktose Bugs?!
« on: April 29, 2018, 11:17:04 AM »
That song has a kickass groove and I really like that sort of choir-like "aaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaa-aaaaahhhhhh"'s that Mark(?) does.
Somewhat overlooked.

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Melvins Show Reviews / Re: San Diego 26 April 2018 Casbah
« on: April 29, 2018, 11:06:20 AM »
The high notes Steven adds into Let It All Be are beyond cool! :excited:
Now if only they played the second part of the song :(
With this setup they could easily figure out an awesome arrangement.
I guess Buzz just doesn't feel it would work live or something.
Come on...

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Melvins Show Reviews / Re: San Diego 26 April 2018 Casbah
« on: April 29, 2018, 07:13:49 AM »
Steve turned up in his pajamas?
And looks great! Reminds me of the muumuus from the 2000 (or is it 2003?) show with Kevin and DSS.

I am amazed at the inclusion of At A Crawl and The Talking Horse.
And they perform them very well!
Great!
That kinda gives me hope Buzz might be willing to let the band try out some other songs strongly associated with specific bassists (Melvins 1983 stuff, HAT, Trilogy).

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
« on: April 24, 2018, 04:54:20 AM »
Oh yeah and Buzzo ALWAYS envisions totally weirded out twisted music to make while sniggering and thinking to himself "wait'll the fans hear THIS weird stuff!!! It'll show'em how bad-ass we are!"
Yea because covering the Beatles is so weird. If you really think this is better than anything they’ve put out in 18 years then you’ve either been in a coma or you’re trolling.
That was sarcasm.

Sure, Buzz did say they're not trying to be perverse. But that just means he's not going out of his way to make things weird.
They usually just come out weird naturally because he's a very eccentric person.
But for some reason that eccentricity doesn't come out to play much.

They're sort of got stuck in their comfort zone with Steven.

When Joe was in the band, his complaint was "we should be working on new material instead of just playing Kiss covers all the time".
Of course he exaggerated and he couldn't read Buzz's mind. He wasn't completely right, but do you see his point there?
When he joined the Melvins, their most unique current feature at the time was drone (Hung Bunny), and the sludge of Bullhead.
Joe no doubt wanted them to focus on that uniqueness and go forward with it, while seeing the classics worship aspect as regression.
See how this is again becoming relevant?

They say you should thank life not only for your friends, but enemies as well.
Joe might have been a pain in the ass, but he was also a KICK to the ass that didn't let the band get stuck in their comfort zone.
Steven is just straight up pandering to the classic-rock-worshipping side of Buzz and that seems to overshadow his weird adventurous side.

I think they're in need a younger, edgier bassist, with wider and/or different tastes.
Someone who can take them out of their bubble for a bit so they can get a fresh outlook and get inspired anew.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Worst Melvins song
« on: April 24, 2018, 04:06:52 AM »
Come on, Choco Plumbing? No comprende :?
And what's with all the hate towards Embrace The Rub :shock:

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
« on: April 23, 2018, 10:26:13 AM »
let's just say the pure unadulterated evil has been replaced with a healthy dose of hippy dippy and southern sass as of late. 
Yep, exactly.

It actually reminds me of the episode of Metalocalypse where Dethklok fired their bassist for his nasty toxic attitude (that, and he didn't really play well - they ended up cutting out most of his parts out of the mix)... and after a while pleaded him to come back because without him their recordings ended up sounding too happy. Turned out even though he played poorly, his negativity was one of the key elements in the band's sound and recording process and they just couldn't cut it without him.

That "bite" is just something Melvins do well and it sorta seems to me like a waste of talent to do the vanilla stuff.

In addition to that, I think there is a bit of a dad rock element setting in. All of them keep emphasizing how weird and out there this stuff is when it's possibly the most vanilla sounding era of the band yet.
Right. I think Buzz either says so out of habit, or there's a disrepancy he doesn't notice between how it sounds in his head when he's planning it and how it turns out on record when the guys actually do it. I mean, the trailer for A Walk With Love And Death freaked me the fuck out, it was promising something really shocking. But a lot of the songs the actual album, at least the Death part, were inconsistent with that image. I'm wondering if Buzz doesn't quite realize how vanilla their stuff with Steven sounds and thinks they're still doing something extra weird.

He did admit in a recent interview he doesn't know what's shocking today anymore.
Maybe he just gave up on trying to go in the "twisted" direction of and just sticks with what feels good to him.

What's interesting is that Buzz can still write a mean song.
A lot, or even most, of the stuff with Dillard is just the right amount of wickedness.
Some songs on Hold It In were a great example.
Even with Steven, there are songs like Hideous Woman as well.
And the solo album.

I think they need someone who will influence them to go in a weirder and slightly darker direction.
Not in visuals - I'll pass on the dead bodies on the packaging, leave that to Unsane - what I'm interested in is getting that hard bite or heavy crush in the music.



http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2018/04/19/two-bass-hit-an-interview-with-jeff-pinkus-and-steven-mcdonald/
I wish Buzz had got his way and insisted on the faster Graveyard. After hearing that badass live version, the studio one feels WAY too slow. It diminishes all the awesomeness from it!
They should have done two versions like on the original Locust! What a missed opportunity.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
« on: April 22, 2018, 06:17:53 AM »
Yeah Buzzo's solo album was killer.
And I do like Pinkus in the band more than Steve.
Steve is a nice guy and fun on stage but his musical tastes (and ergo, influences) are pretty far from my personal preferences.

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Melvins Album Discussion / Re: Basses Loaded
« on: April 21, 2018, 04:50:59 PM »
Not sure in which thread to post this, but I want to talk about a controversial topic that is the jocular Melvins 1983 "traditional songs".
Two on this record and three on Tres Cabrones, you know which ones I'm talking about.
I think some time ago I saw some people slamming them pretty agressively and I didn't have the time to put in my 2 cents.
Just wanna say what I personally think on the matter.

Personally I love the idea.
I don't have a problem with the concept at all, but I easily admit, some of it was either of questionable humor quality or frankly half-assed.

You're In The Army Now was hilarious.
No further comment on that.

99 Bottles Of Beer I like as well.
That BEER BEER BEER BEER BEER BEER BEER BEER section was a really fun addition.
But my gripe is they kinda missed the point, alas.
It's supposed to be a long, loooong loop, an almost never-ending song.
If they actually went through with it and sung it all the way through from 99 to 0, that would have been a hilarious feat.
Heck, I wouldn't even mind it if they just looped it digitally and overdubbed the numbers.
That wouldn't have been as amazing of a feat as the first option, but still a hilarious joke.
It had the potential to be of one of the band's biggest jokes on listeners on the same scale as Shit Sandwich, but it ended up as just a funny song.

Tie My Pecker To A Tree is okay though somewhat less funny as the previous two.
I like the "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll" getting longer and longer before every verse though.

Shaving Cream I have the biggest problem with, first of all because their aversion of the subversion of the original made it unfunny.
Second it's a bad lazy arrangement & it just doesn't sound good.
I actually find the "hidden track" part of the song funnier. Hey daddy, hey daddy...

Take Me Out To The Ball Game is also a lazy empty arrangement.
Other than the chiptune part by Toshi and vocals, it's worthless.
And worst of all, they didn't sing the whole song. Come on!
It's a great classic song to sing and cover, but please, do it properly...

So yeah, that's my take on the funny 'traditional' songs.
They were executed half-heartedly but I defend the idea.
I just wish they played those with a full deck.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Pinkus Abortion Technician
« on: April 21, 2018, 03:32:14 PM »
Yeah, I was relistening to Basses Loaded recently and in retrospect it's actually a very damned decent album.

So what can I say about the new one? It's pretty neat.
It could have easily been an EP if you'd take out the cover songs, and that's pretty much how I view it.
But it would be quite a remarkable EP at that.

  • Prenup Butter might be my favorite on the record despite having the stupidest worthless title in all of the band's catalog.
    (And I'm almost never the one to dislike Melvins' song titles. I'm pretty much the opposite of )))((( in that regard)
    Very strong deep Buzz vocals. Very enjoyable.
    And the riff after Buzz finishes singing each verse is... mwah!  :love:
    It's a Black Sabbath level riff I would say.
    Great song overall.

  • Don't Forget To Breathe is another definite highlight.
    For some reason Jeff's vocal delivery reminded me of a bluesy take on...... dare I say the N-word here?.... Nirvana.
    It's somewhat depressing, definitely a feel-bad song. Like blues but without the stoicism.

  • Flamboyant Duck... not really feeling it now. Maybe it's a grower.

  • I Want To Hold Your Hand - well, I already loved it from when they played it on tour. This recorded version is very good, although the elongated ending doesn't feel necessary and I think the Adult Swim live version was slightly more melodic due to how the backing vocals were equally loud whereas here Buzz's take central stage.

  • Stop Moving To Florida - Stop is quite infectious, I've been listening to it quite a lot since they uploaded it. Moving To Florida was much better live, I already talked about it. And since they put it in one track I was hoping there'd be some kind of mashup, but it's just one song after the other.

  • Graveyard is Graveyard, of course it's awesome. I was the most hyped about it when they played it on first tour with Pinkus, now I'm not as excited about it as then, but I'm glad there's now a studio version of it.

  • Break Bread is the only song on the record I strongly dislike. No thanks. As I was entering the thread I was thinking about it and particularly the repetition of the title (which isn't a great title either), and I immediately saw ian grunting about it as well :) But I do actually agree.

  • Embrace The Rub - speaking of repetition (and ian grouching), the title is sung repeatedly in this one as well, quite unfittingly. That makes three songs but in Don't Forget To Breathe it actually fits and makes sense, being a mantra it is.
    But. BUT! Other than that it's actually a really good and unexpected song, I don't know what makes )))((( so ː((( about it.


Overall, I like the album, but honestly I'm already waiting for the Steven era to end.

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