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Melvins Discussion / Re: Mike & The Melvins- "Limited Teeth"
« on: October 19, 2018, 04:07:35 AM »
Dead Canaries also holds a special place in my heart

I RAN UP ON LEROY is the most Melvins thing ever to me

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Melvins Discussion / Re: European Tour 2018
« on: October 14, 2018, 05:04:01 PM »
Any surprises on the setlist so far?

Same as the US with Rebel Girl together with Shitkid added as a closer

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Shreds Video <my gift to you>
« on: October 14, 2018, 10:08:35 AM »
This was great and long overdue!

How about shredding Bungle?


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Melvins Discussion / Re: how many times have you seen melvins live?
« on: October 14, 2018, 06:31:28 AM »
Thirteen for me

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An art gallery is something very different from a discussion forum, D. I really hope that is understood otherwise we won't reach any kind of anything here.

Your example equates more to going to a Melvins show and heckling them from the pit screaming about how lame that Sabbath cover was.

Oh, yeah no more Sabbath covers...ok you can live with that? But what more can they do for you?  what DO you want then, you still haven't expressed what they should be doing in your opinion. You have NO idea what's coming down the line in the future based on this one cover song do you? 

Jeez man, you asked the question on the Sabbath covers and I said I'm good on it. I'm also good on a rumored Stones cover EP. It's just my damn opinion, how has this got you so tight? There is nothing to be expected or wanted from a band, I only commented on one song. You asked about them not doing covers at all and I (half-jokingly) said I could live without it.

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Are you Just having a bad week or something?

I would be less ok with the band quitting and retiring than catering to criticism, outrage is hardly the word...Annoyed I would say, and if you don't understand it..There's nothing anyone can do to help you.  It's not just you personally giving me a headache, it's a lot of people over the years coming down on this band where they need to STFU already and be grateful this band is still kicking ass. I'm tired of it. No one comes close to being as good as this band in so many magical ways.

Your name is oscar, yet *I'M* the grouch? What *do* you want from this band? what will satisfy you and make you happy then? sincerely!

Tell you what, explain in greater detail how the drums sound like cardboard, It's Just a Jaded Critique to me. If you're going to rip on this band don't do it with half your ass.

I could listen to it a few more times and give you an idea of where this was recorded and what microphones were possibly used etc, what cymbals and kit were used.

It doesn't sound like it was done in their usual space.

What was your expectation of this cover before you listened?  Hey, Tell me something-  you played it straight off a smart phone didn't you?

PS. Ian, I've been through a few trials trying to get to see the band live a few times. Imagine what these guys have gone through playing thousands of shows all over the world, how hard these guys work, and how incredible and inspiring and rare and special that is?


Ok how about you reign in the youtube comment section energy and let us have a discussion.

I'm aware that you don't track my posts, but we have discussed gripes with their current sound on here a whole lot and didn't think I need to roll out the whole thing again to get my point across. I played this song on my sound system like I do every time, the fact that you worked yourself up into some kind of "you kids and your phones" tangent is hilarious. Especially considering that most of us first listened to this on Youtube. I'm sure it all sounds extra crisp when played through your superior hi-fi.

The drums on this Sabbath record sound bland and tinny to me. It might be the kit, it might be the engineering, it might be the mix. I'm not about to A/B it for you with a record that I like, because we are arguing over arbitrary factors - all I said, and am still saying, is that I am tired of this tone. I don't care if this was recorded somewhere other than Sound Of Sirens, I just think that the sound, mix and sometimes studio performance has been quite uninspired lately. Cisneros' vocals on this have been discussed previously, I agree in that he is not at all helping the already pretty tired delivery of this song. I love that the Melvins do what they want, that's what makes them THEM, but if what they want right now is dad rock, then I guess that aspect is not for me.

Does this mean I think that the Melvins don't kick ass? No.
Does this mean I don't respect the fact that they're one of the most phenomenal bands of this (and the last) century? Fuck no.
Does the fact that they're phenomenal and have been around for a long time mean that I'll nod and agree with everything that comes out? Even if I don't like it? Ask yourself.

What *do* you want from this band? what will satisfy you and make you happy then? sincerely!

I don't "want" anything. They're my favourite band, always have been. They don't owe me things. It's art, and it's theirs to make.
Also, keep in mind that I'm not saying anything on here to convince the band to change their ways. All I'm doing (and I can't believe I'm still breaking this part down) is COMMENTING ON THE SONG IN THE DAMN THREAD THAT WAS STARTED FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SONG.

I happen to not like it. I happen to be over their style of production and feel like they're plateauing. I'm good on Sabbath and especially Stones covers. My week has been great, I just have an opinion and was apparently mistaken that this is the place to express it.


PS: How is not liking something being grouchy? Doesn't Buzz himself shit on pretty much everything? And you love him for it?






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I'll never understand the outraged reactions to any negative comment on the band's output.

That's like me sitting here and getting flustered about somebody liking this song that I happen to dislike.

I've been listening to the Melvins for decades, been on this forum for a number of years and lurked here for many years before that.
I have totaled maybe 5 posts critiquing the Melvins, all of them in my opinion pushing a point of discussion forward despite my dislikes or turn-offs.

No, I don't want them to return to the early 90s when things were better. They weren't.
No, I don't want them to be HEAVIER and turn up the amps and go back to the Les Paul and play slower. The heaviness of this band has nothing to do with distortion or loudness.

Every single time I say anything that doesn't equate to me loving whatever the band is doing, some grumpy dude jumps up with the "APPRECIATE IT OR GET OUT" mindset. That is absolute bullshit to me and decidedly un-Melvins in ethos as well.

As people have pointed out, this is a discussion forum. So as long as I'm interested, I will keep discussing and that also includes things that aren't so great.


would you rather HAVE NO SABBATH COVERS BY MELVINS? OR WHAT?

I'd be ok with that, yeah.

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I get the Sabbath worship and everything but I am thoroughly sick of this tone. The drums sound like cardboard at this point and I feel like Buzz's guitar work is the same on every single track they put out.


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Melvins Discussion / Re: Dale Crover Band 2 Sep Los Angeles
« on: September 04, 2018, 04:28:07 AM »
FleshCop has the whole show up!


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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: September 04, 2018, 04:26:57 AM »

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: August 26, 2018, 07:16:52 AM »
*audio only*

From https://www.facebook.com/DavesPicturesOfPictures/

"Ok...I'm finally getting my shit together with converting my audio tapes. I now post for your consideration, a historical document if you will. May 1992. I drove up to Gainesville to see Melvins at the Hardback. But Buzz had gotten really really sick and flew home. Dale and Joe Preston played a full set anyway. I called them the Elvins. Listening to this tape after these decades passed, they actually did a pretty good job. But at the time we were pissed we drove over 200m round trip to see a Buzz-less Melvins. Here's the 1st few minutes of that show.

Has anybody else ever heard of Melvins doing a show like this?"



https://chirb.it/pNPBg5

Great stuff, thanks!

Halibut.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: new Melvins interview
« on: August 24, 2018, 02:36:24 AM »
Speaking in a broader sense, for me when it comes to interviews i prefer serious inquiry and not tomfoolery and japes as is often the case with Melvins interviews. Something that bugs me about that is that even when someone interviews the band in a serious manner, they will fuck around and get all silly rendering the interview itself pointless. I kinda hate Buzz and Dale for that every time. I want serious musicians God damn it! As a fan i want insight and revelation into their music not stupid in-jokes and attempts to belittle or make fun of the interviewer.

I'm not sure what you mean here. I can point you to a couple dozen Melvins interviews from the last year and beyond that seriously discuss what they're up to and into. Matter of fact, most interviews are the exact same. Dipping into their love of classic rock, how they package and distribute music, their influences, John Huston comes up pretty much every time... To be honest, I can often anticipate the answer when the question is asked as I think most of us here could. Buzz especially has a lot of go-to lines for those types of questions. And if you're really looking for dry and humourless responses, don't hold your breath for the friggin Melvins to give you that. Also, they have mellowed out way more these days - need I remind you of the "INDEEEEEEED" radio session?


Anyway, Courtney - this was cool! I hope you guys can churn out more of this stuff in the future. I agree on the Neil Hamburgerisms but what the hell, you could be biting a way less interesting style.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: August 17, 2018, 01:58:09 PM »
Not a great song choice honestly


Bullshit.

I love Edgar, I'm just saying the guitar work isn't what makes the song for me. I think it relies more on the ensemble and especially the writing, so this left it kind of bare and uninteresting if we are supposed to focus on the riffs. On top of that, the sound was trash.

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Melvins Discussion / Re: Melvins Videos Thread (and much more)
« on: August 15, 2018, 07:16:17 PM »
Not a great song choice honestly


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Melvins Discussion / Re: Songs that lived a second life on tour?
« on: August 12, 2018, 05:15:25 AM »
A history of drunks from the Freak Puke tour. There is an upright bass solo right in the middle of it and then it just picks right back up where it left off.  That version is top notch  :)
... and Captain Pungent.....and Bertha's..... and Shevil.....


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