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Re: 8,6,10,26 songs
« Reply #150 on: November 21, 2015, 06:53:17 AM »
The 26 Songs CD covers it all. There's really no 26th song on the CD; at the end of track 25 there's a "field" recording of them fucking around talking with some neigborhood weirdo and jamming at someone's house when they were teens.
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Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
« Reply #151 on: November 25, 2015, 07:07:45 AM »
I dunno about you guys, but I'd really love to see Ipecac or Alternative Tentacles or somebody do a remastered vinyl set like the recent Boner ones but pairing 10 Songs & Gluey Porch Treatments. I really like both of those albums and it would be awesome to have them on vinyl on the shelf next to my other Melvins rekkids, especially if they got the same beautiful remaster treatment as those Boner ones. And I've got a plan to get Mike Patton and/or Jello Biafra onboard; I'll be on it just as soon as I get a cocktail dress and a crowbar.

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Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
« Reply #152 on: January 07, 2020, 10:15:55 AM »
Okay, what do you think about this?

This is from the Wiki here:
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Dale Crover said this about the various C/Z Records versions of this release: "The way it was (recorded), it could have been better. We set up live in a 24-track studio and the original 7” sounds all boxed in. Since it was our first record, we really didn’t know what we were doing. I think the songs are OK, but the sound quality should have been much better for what it was. The re-release of that on C/Z was actually a different recording. We recorded the songs twice because on the first one, the vocals were a little bit distorted, a little bit too hot, and our bass player (Matt Lukin of Mudhoney) had only changed one string on his bass, so this one string was really bright and the others were dead. We went back in the studio and did them again and put the second (session) out. When we listened back to the first one a long time later, we just thought it sounded way better, so when they re-issued it (on C/Z) we had them put that one out."

Quite hard to fetch what he says here (at least for me as a non-native speaker) but doesn't Dale say that for the original "6 Songs" release, they used the re-recorded versions, and when it was re-issued later (as "8 Songs", later "10 Songs"), they listened to the initial recordings again, liked them better than the re-recordings (despite the distorted vocals and the too bright bass string) and used those? Think nobody has noticed this yet, or at least I couldn't find it.

Side note: The crappy quality versions of "Show Off Your Red Hands" and "#2 Pencil" on 26 Songs (Tracks 18 and 19, presumably sourced from the "Outtake From First 7"" release) are exactly the same takes as the versions released on "Eight/Ten Songs" (Tracks 4 and 8 ). They are simply repeated on this release, but in much worse quality. Nobody seems to have noticed this yet either.

So the initial session (used on "8/10 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / #2 Pencil / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal / Show Off Your Red Hands / Over From Underground / Crayfish

The re-recording (used on "6 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal

Leaves Set Me Straight. Given that it is found together with #2 Pencil and Show Off Your Red Hands, I suppose it also belongs to the initial session. Makes sense because it is an older song that was already present in '83.

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Re: 6, 8, 10, 26 Songs
« Reply #153 on: January 07, 2020, 04:03:46 PM »
I think you’re correct.

Okay, what do you think about this?

This is from the Wiki here:
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Dale Crover said this about the various C/Z Records versions of this release: "The way it was (recorded), it could have been better. We set up live in a 24-track studio and the original 7” sounds all boxed in. Since it was our first record, we really didn’t know what we were doing. I think the songs are OK, but the sound quality should have been much better for what it was. The re-release of that on C/Z was actually a different recording. We recorded the songs twice because on the first one, the vocals were a little bit distorted, a little bit too hot, and our bass player (Matt Lukin of Mudhoney) had only changed one string on his bass, so this one string was really bright and the others were dead. We went back in the studio and did them again and put the second (session) out. When we listened back to the first one a long time later, we just thought it sounded way better, so when they re-issued it (on C/Z) we had them put that one out."

Quite hard to fetch what he says here (at least for me as a non-native speaker) but doesn't Dale say that for the original "6 Songs" release, they used the re-recorded versions, and when it was re-issued later (as "8 Songs", later "10 Songs"), they listened to the initial recordings again, liked them better than the re-recordings (despite the distorted vocals and the too bright bass string) and used those? Think nobody has noticed this yet, or at least I couldn't find it.

Side note: The crappy quality versions of "Show Off Your Red Hands" and "#2 Pencil" on 26 Songs (Tracks 18 and 19, presumably sourced from the "Outtake From First 7"" release) are exactly the same takes as the versions released on "Eight/Ten Songs" (Tracks 4 and 8 ). They are simply repeated on this release, but in much worse quality. Nobody seems to have noticed this yet either.

So the initial session (used on "8/10 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / #2 Pencil / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal / Show Off Your Red Hands / Over From Underground / Crayfish

The re-recording (used on "6 Songs") featured:
Easy As It Was / Now A Limo / Grinding Process / At A Crawl / Disinvite / Snake Appeal

Leaves Set Me Straight. Given that it is found together with #2 Pencil and Show Off Your Red Hands, I suppose it also belongs to the initial session. Makes sense because it is an older song that was already present in '83.