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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #255 on: June 09, 2016, 03:22:59 AM »
Also...after you finish reading that good review, answer this - is there another band on the planet that can turn this into a catchy, hook filled chorus?

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Maybe Ween could have.... :lol:
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« Reply #256 on: June 09, 2016, 09:31:55 AM »
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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #257 on: June 09, 2016, 02:12:54 PM »
Review from thequietus.com...

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Basses Loaded Josh Gray , June 4th, 2016 09:50

The very fact that the Melvins still exist, albeit it in whatever form perennial pig-head King Buzzo chooses on any particular day, should be a cause for constant celebration. Not only are they the last of the so-called ‘proto’-grunge acts still standing without requiring a post-rehab reunion (or ‘the last band standing’ as Krist Novoselic describes them in the trailer for upcoming documentary The Colossus Of Destiny), they seem to have been permanently afflicted with whatever the polar opposite of writer’s block is since 1986. With their new effort and the recent delayed release of Three Men and a Baby (recorded with godheadSilo’s Mike Kunka back in 1999) the number of LPs the band has spewed out now stands at 23. 23! That’s enough Melvins themed novelty coasters to legitimately cater for a full Hawkwind reunion tea party.

But though Buzz ‘n’ Dale have never had a problem retaining their creative flair, they do seem to have a problem holding down their low end. Lori Black, Mark Deutrom, Kevin Rutmanis, the list of corpses in the Melvins’ bassist morgue goes on and ever on. As their latest LP’s name suggests it seems that the Melvins have now fully committed to operating a revolving door policy and have simply opted to make an album that features six different bassists across its 12 tracks.

So let’s get the review formalities out of the way: Basses Loaded is excellent. Like every other Melvins record it holds its own identity while oozing the same sweet black guitar sludge they have re-perfected many times over the years. You know what to expect by this point. The album shreds, it grooves, it pummels, and it turns all the lights out and showers your still, petrified form with hard rock spittle and leaves you begging for more. Now let’s get down to the more important business of stacking up each bassist to appear on the album and ranking their individual contributions shall we?

6. Krist Novoselic - Plays on ‘Maybe I Am Amused’

Without a doubt the most famous four-stringer on the album, one of history’s greatest sidemen and the closest thing to a household name a bassist can get without adopting a monosyllabic insectoid moniker. How can a legend such as Krist be relegated to the bottom of the scoreboard you ask? Because the man stopped really being a bassist the moment Nirvana swansong ‘You Know Your Right’s rolling bassline faded into silence in 1994.

These days if you want to work with Krist you have to sign a contract stipulating that he will play one part bass and three parts accordion and the accordion will also receive 50% of the songwriting credit and royalties. The jaunty walking bassline he plays is fine enough, but you know that deep down the only collaborator he really wants to hear from is either Kurt’s ghost or a Parisian mime troupe, whichever reaches out to him first.

5. Trevor Dunn - Plays on ‘Planet Distructo’

A long-time King Buzzo collaborator in avant-garde supergroup Fantômas, it seems only appropriate that Trevor should provide the oddest bass section on the album. Preferring his trusty double bass to the more compact models heard elsewhere, he starts things off nicely with a dose of jazz bar noodling under a sustained guitar preamble. However, as Buzz’s beeline riff gains purpose and momentum what started off as a refreshing change of pace quickly becomes an act of self-sabotage and the song dissolves into an irritating jazz-fusion clusterfuck. It just goes to show that what might work with Mike Patton won’t necessarily work with any other human being.

4. Dale Crover – Plays on ‘Beer Hippie’, ‘Shaving Cream’, ‘Phyllis Dillard’ and ‘Take Me Out To The Ball Game’

A return of the ‘Melvins 1983’ line-up which sees drummer Dale Crover move to the role of bass guitarist with forgotten founding member Mike Dillard picking up the sticks. Dale’s telepathic connection to Buzz’s broiling brain remains unbroken even when he abandons his beloved toms. The growling low end of ‘Phyllis Dillard’ is one of the meatiest moments on an album purpose built to soundtrack vegans’ nightmares.

Despite his respectable fretwork, Dale’s spots on the twin sea shanty skits ‘Shaving Cream’ and ‘Ballgame’ lay bare his role as a placeholder bassist, only to be utilised when he and Buzz have exhausted the phone directory. Every second he spends away from his drumkit is a second that could be spent teaching Mike Dillard how to play the fucking thing.

3. Steve McDonald – Plays on ‘The Decay of Lying’, ‘I Want To Tell You’, ‘Hideous Woman’ and ‘War Pussy’

The veteran Redd Kross man teamed up with the Melvins to record last year’s War Pussy EP which provides much of the backbone for Basses Loaded. Steve’s guest credits include everyone from novelty metalheads Tenacious D to tween-rockers Fun, so he obviously has no problem blending into the sound of whichever band requires his chameleonic services. ‘Hideous Woman’ sees him following Buzz’s zigzag songwriting style without missing a trick while single ‘War Pussy’ proves that the pop-punk pioneer can spread sludge around with the best of them. If this whole thing turns out to be nothing more than a glorified audition process then King Buzzo could do far worse than to add Steve to their line-up on a more permanent basis(st) (sorry).

2. Jeff Pinkus – Plays on ‘Captain Come Down’

Jeeeesus those bass chords. This isn’t the first time that JD Pinkus has joined forces with his fellow perpetrators of the 90s’ very finest fuzz. 2014 saw him and fellow Butthole Surfer Paul Leary adding some tectonic heft to Hold On creating a serious contender for best riff of the 10s on the savage ‘Sesame Street Meat’ along the way. Even though he sticks around on the album for less than three minutes his presence is palpable. This is the closest the Melvins have come to recapturing the detuned power of their seminal stoner rock template Lysol in quite some time, and God it’s good.

1. Jared Warren – Plays on ‘Choco Plumbing’

If there’s one Melvins album that can rival Lysol in the raw power stakes it’s their 2006 pulveriser (A) Senile Animal. With the help of Big Business’s Jared Warren on bass and Coady Willis doubling up the drum sound, Animal proved to be a masterclass in how to knock down perceived walls between what was considered ‘accessible’ and what was considered ‘heavy’, putting Josh Homme out of a job in the process. Seriously, every one of its tracks sounded like it should have evicted whatever trite the Foo Fighters had churned out that year from the top of the alternative rock charts and stayed there til kingdom come.

The greatest compliment that can be paid ‘Choco Plumbing’ is that it sound like it should have been on that album. Though everyone remembers the double-drum jackhammer attack, they often overlook Jared’s role in coaxing out Buzz’s more melodic side with his knack for a (civilised) earworm and a playing style so complementary it could be cast as Hugh Grant. Jared’s playing style matches Buzz’s stroke for stroke, occasionally even outstripping the King himself, and his unique harmonies fit the band’s vibe perfectly. Hell, even his hair rivals Buzz’s.

Jarred and Buzz should spend every waking hour together. They should write together, perform together, live together, shower together… the list goes on. For a while now the Melvins have continually switched up their vibe in an effort to become the best version of themselves they can be. The truth is they found it a decade ago. Long live King Jared.

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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #258 on: June 09, 2016, 07:10:41 PM »
Damn, that praise of Jared & Coady is pretty glowing. Interesting review for sure.

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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #259 on: June 09, 2016, 08:35:33 PM »
Jarred and Buzz should spend every waking hour together. They should write together, perform together, live together, shower together… the list goes on. For a while now the Melvins have continually switched up their vibe in an effort to become the best version of themselves they can be. The truth is they found it a decade ago. Long live King Jared.

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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #260 on: June 09, 2016, 09:17:06 PM »
Wow. Pinky is starting to make sense!  :-s

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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #261 on: June 10, 2016, 03:07:29 PM »
"However, as Buzz’s beeline riff gains purpose and momentum what started off as a refreshing change of pace quickly becomes an act of self-sabotage and the song dissolves into an irritating jazz-fusion clusterfuck."

What's with all the Jazz hate? Irritating? Clusterfuck? Really? I must be the only person who finds this part of the album the most satisfying. That King Jared shit too, gtfo. This guy probably jerks off to a picture of Jared photoshopped together with Buzz. It's good but not that good.

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« Reply #262 on: June 10, 2016, 03:41:14 PM »
It's good but not that good.

choco plumbing is my favorite on the album and i also think that that guys review fucking sucks
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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #263 on: June 10, 2016, 11:19:03 PM »
It's good but not that good.

choco plumbing is my favorite on the album and i also think that that guys review fucking sucks

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Hey man Choco Plumbing is for sure one of my favorites and I think it goes without saying that yes Jared and Buzz sound great together but that last part of that interview is just creepy.
It's this that really has me dumbfounded "...an act of self-sabotage and the song dissolves into an irritating jazz-fusion clusterfuck.", like I said it's pure bliss to me but I love Jazz too so I don't know.
Bah! To each their own I guess. It is funny that he's cumming all over Jared and Buzz harmonies but says nothing about Dale and Steven and that they sound imo just as good together as Jared and Buzz and I'm willing to bet we're gonna hear more of how much Steven fit's with, well everything. I kinda like that his harmonies are a bit buried on War Pussy but it would be nice to his back ups more upfront. The very end of The Beatles cover you can really hear his voice and I love it. Plus live he sounded great with both Buzz and Dale.

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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #264 on: June 11, 2016, 02:02:33 AM »
I'm going to listen to the album again to be fair but I'm starting to accept the Melvins are not quite my cup of tea anymore. I miss the heaviness and crunch of past albums and thought they might've rediscovered it a bit on The Bulls & The Bees EP but it's not looking like it. Too much easy going fuzz and too many silly songs not weird like HAT but out and out childish like silly in recent times.

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« Reply #265 on: June 11, 2016, 02:13:25 AM »
I'm going to listen to the album again to be fair but I'm starting to accept the Melvins are not quite my cup of tea anymore. I miss the heaviness and crunch of past albums and thought they might've rediscovered it a bit on The Bulls & The Bees EP but it's not looking like it. Too much easy going fuzz and too many silly songs not weird like HAT but out and out childish like silly in recent times.
I feel EXACTLY the same. Don't get me wrong i can, on some level, still enjoy the records. They are remarkably listenable in an easy going way. I love the dynamic quality to them also (in the sense of the flow of the records) but like yourself i do find myself looking backward and thinking "is this even the same band?". It makes me wonder what Buzz and Dale think about this - are they oblivious to this change/decline? Having said that i will always look forward to whatever they release next.

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« Reply #266 on: June 11, 2016, 02:45:01 AM »
Oblivious to the change/decline?  If that thought popped into my head I'd stop and ask myself, "who the fuck am I to even think for a second these guys don't know what they're doing and/or are oblivious to some subjective change/decline of their records?" 

These motherfuckers are in their 50's and have played, written, thought about, and thoroughly presented more heavy music in the last 30 years than damn near any humans on earth.  Constant music, and at a pace that would wear out the average heavy musician after a very short time.  Anything the Melvins do is cool with me, even if I don't get the same goosebumps that I got as a teenager from some of their other stuff.  If they're tired of something and want more melody, different tempos and song structures, whatever it is, it's got to be an important part of staying interested in this shit.  They know this, and just follow along or make the songs you want to hear yourself.


I'm not trying to be rude to you, Ian.  This general artistic discussion comes up from time to time, and the Melvins angle has popped up before with friends, and it bothers me.  Like a backseat driver annoyance, and I want to say, "motherfucker, you wouldn't know anything of what to do behind the wheel, so shove it."

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Re: Basses Loaded
« Reply #267 on: June 11, 2016, 03:00:14 AM »
I don't usually chime in on reviews but this one really is loaded (I'll see myself out...)

I like it, it's fun to listen to and this concept was bound to be actualized.
But I do agree that they could do with a cohesive album at this stage. We know they've wanted to abandon the traditional album format since Bride (but did they really?) but the last couple records were spread a little thin. Like ))))(((( mentioned, certain tracks (especially the ones leaked in advance) leave you feeling nothing. Which is a rare thing after being pampered for 30+ years.

Their work ethic is obviously untouchable and everything I'm saying here is very lofty criticism, but I don't think any of us would be mad if they released an album a year and have that be a more focused project with less cutting room floor elements.

And to touch on the drum sound discussion, switching up engineers wouldn't hurt either. Tosh is the shit, but 15 years is plenty.


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« Reply #268 on: June 11, 2016, 03:04:20 AM »
Oblivious to the change/decline?  If that thought popped into my head I'd stop and ask myself, "who the fuck am I to even think for a second these guys don't know what they're doing and/or are oblivious to some subjective change/decline of their records?" 

These motherfuckers are in their 50's and have played, written, thought about, and thoroughly presented more heavy music in the last 30 years than damn near any humans on earth.  Constant music, and at a pace that would wear out the average heavy musician after a very short time.  Anything the Melvins do is cool with me, even if I don't get the same goosebumps that I got as a teenager from some of their other stuff.  If they're tired of something and want more melody, different tempos and song structures, whatever it is, it's got to be an important part of staying interested in this shit.  They know this, just follow along or make the songs you want to hear yourself.


I'm not trying to be rude to you, Ian.  This general artistic discussion comes up from time to time, and the Melvins angle has popped up before with friends, and it bothers me.  Like a backseat driver annoyance, and I want to say, "motherfucker, you wouldn't know anything of what to do behind the wheel, so shove it."
Believe it or not, i actually feel much the same as you too. I see both sides. As you mentioned about being thankful for anything the band put out i concur. Im glad there's something and not nothing. On the whole i enjoy things but it doesn't appeal to me, to MY tastes as much. I think us, as fans have a right to be able to say that or discuss openly what it is we like or how we think the band view their work. We are not necessarily correct but it's views all the same. But yes you are right bands are free to change or do whatever they wish. I still think the band don't really see the full picture though.

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« Reply #269 on: June 11, 2016, 05:26:22 AM »
I feel EXACTLY the same. Don't get me wrong i can, on some level, still enjoy the records. They are remarkably listenable in an easy going way. I love the dynamic quality to them also (in the sense of the flow of the records) but like yourself i do find myself looking backward and thinking "is this even the same band?". It makes me wonder what Buzz and Dale think about this - are they oblivious to this change/decline? Having said that i will always look forward to whatever they release next.

I'm not sitting their grinding my teeth either but my mind certainly wanders. To me what I've always liked about the Melvins is they offered up something probably no other band does if you feel like chocolate they've got an album for that or if you feel like vanilla an album for that or strawberry an album for that but I think the last 5-6 albums have been too samey like slightly different versions of the same flavour. I think they know exactly what they're doing the more straight ahead rock would be easier to write/play and more chance of appealing to a wider audience. I always remember that Buzz quote about HAT (their best album IMO) it went something like "If HAT was such a great album than why I do I have boxes full of that album in my garage I can't sell?".

I agree I always look forward to their next release and to their credit they churn out the albums some might argue the focus is more on quantity than quality but I would rather a band I liked churning out the stuff than say a RHCP or Green Day waiting 4-5 years between albums. At least with a new Melvins album if you don't think it's great the next one is only right around the corner.