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Title: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on October 04, 2016, 08:48:45 AM
"Crystal Fairy. We've been working on this project for a while and kept it under wraps until now! New band we've (King Buzzo & Dale) started with Terri Gender Bender (Les Butcherettes) and Omar Rodriguez-Lopez (At The Drive-In/Mars Volta). 7" coming this month and LP to follow"

https://youtu.be/YyPtZsxmLmI
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Stonergrunge on October 04, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
Back on May 02, 2006, I posted this:

Quote from: Stonergrunge on May 02, 2006, 02:06:09 PM
Melvins with The Mars Volta: The Mervins Volta

8) I wasn't so wrong after all.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Captain CoryCory on October 04, 2016, 09:15:52 AM
Le Melvins Voltarettes?  :lol:

Anyways, this song is rock solid. !
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: blewis on October 04, 2016, 09:35:47 AM
Quote from: vince furnier on October 04, 2016, 08:48:45 AM
"Crystal Fairy. We've been working on this project for a while and kept it under wraps until now! New band we've (King Buzzo & Dale) started with Terri Gender Bender (Les Butcherettes) and Omar Rodriguez-Lopez (At The Drive-In/Mars Volta). 7" coming this month and LP to follow"

https://youtu.be/YyPtZsxmLmI

AWESOME!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 04, 2016, 10:47:16 AM
Yeah but! Who's on bass? Or is that a loaded question?  :-k
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: danimal on October 04, 2016, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: meezer on October 04, 2016, 10:47:16 AM
Yeah but! Who's on bass? Or is that a loaded question?  :-k

When you fly w/the Melvins, you don't need a net.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Captain CoryCory on October 04, 2016, 02:45:09 PM
Supergroups gotta supergroup
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Dumpster D on October 04, 2016, 03:26:35 PM
It works for me.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 04, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: Stonergrunge on October 04, 2016, 01:43:45 PM
hey Ian, where did you get that info?
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2016, 01:38:07 PM
out on 24/2/17

1. Chiseler
2. Drugs On The Bus
3. Necklace Of Divorce
4. Moth Tongue
5. Crystal Fairy
6. Secret Agent Rat
7. Under Trouble
8. Bent Teeth
9. PosesiĆ³n
10. Sweet Self
11. Vampire X-Mass
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2016, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Stonergrunge on October 04, 2016, 01:43:45 PM
hey Ian, where did you get that info?
Here and there.


(https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/crystal-fairy.png?w=800)



On a side note i wish this was under the Melvins banner as generally im not a fan of short lived side projects. Crystal Fairy??? What a terrible band name. Odd that 'Hold It In' or 'Three Men And A Baby' were also collaborations but still credited as "Melvins" whereas this is considered separate from that. I love Teri but personally i'd have it as just Buzz, Dale and Omar.

https://www.instagram.com/crystalfairyband/


I think it will be interesting to see if now Buzz has worked with Omar, if a load of people from here all of a sudden are going to be big Omar fans. Which kind of happened with Le Butcherettes. Almost no one here cared about the band until they got the Melvins seal of approval.
Quote Ian! [-X
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: (PAUL) on October 04, 2016, 06:49:09 PM
Trending on facebook!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: black stallion on October 04, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
mmmmmh.

Mars Volta  :later:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on October 04, 2016, 06:55:32 PM
I respect Omar as a guitarist and producer. I just don't care much for his actual music. I would bet that this project will be great.

I checked out a few Mars Volta albums around a decade ago. They were OK, but IMO way overrated. I saw Antemasque 2 yrs ago, with Le Butcherettes opening. Antemasque was much more listenable than MV, but still didn't really stand out to me. It's mainly the vocals that lose me.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: FartLips on October 04, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
Song is great. Teri sounds great. Its got ballz! Win!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Bigval on October 04, 2016, 07:36:56 PM
Interesting.

I dare say the reasons this collab isn't under the Melvins name are a) control, if it's under the Melvins name Buzz & Dale dictate terms not sure a guy like Omar would go for that and b) a lot larger potential exposure of Crystal Fairy taking off then it otherwise would under the Melvins name.

They said they've been working on it a while so hopefully for all of them the background checks have been done lol I know next to nothing about Teri but those two main At The Drive In/The Mars Volta guys seem like huge flakes. I could see Buzz giving an opinion on something Omar doesn't like and he immediately quitting refusing to ever speak to Buzz again or something like that.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: (the) Razor on October 04, 2016, 08:54:30 PM
Omar having a busy year
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: rimb on October 04, 2016, 10:50:41 PM
Drugs on the bus sounds great.

I'm excited.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: POOP GRENADE on October 05, 2016, 12:04:15 AM
I'm into it.

It would be cool to see this presented as a Melvins release ("woah Teri and Omar are IN melvins") but new moniker suggests a more equal share of songwriting duties.

Teri to handle bass/low end (keys) if this ever goes live?

I cannot ever imagine a Melvins/Volta Tour.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Dumpster D on October 05, 2016, 12:33:34 AM
Where there is smoke there is usually fire.  8)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Godflesh on October 05, 2016, 12:44:01 AM
Quote from: POOP GRENADE on October 05, 2016, 12:04:15 AM
I cannot ever imagine a Melvins/Volta collaboration album.

Fixed.

Although.... This might be shocking and unexpected enough for long-time fans.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Mount Ambulance on October 05, 2016, 01:49:47 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2016, 02:07:14 PM
I think it will be interesting to see if now Buzz has worked with Omar, if a load of people from here all of a sudden are going to be big Omar fans. Which kind of happened with Le Butcherettes. Almost no one here cared about the band until they got the Melvins seal of approval.

Duh! Of course that shit's gonna happen ... what else would you expect? Actually seems like you fully expect this to happen and are just being polite framing it as a question. I'll take Melvins fans for $1000 Alex.

Le Butcherettes, meh ...
Helms Alee, meh ...
Totimoshi, meh ...
I could go on but meh.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: buddy holiday on October 05, 2016, 02:02:54 AM
Quote from: Mount Ambulance on October 05, 2016, 01:49:47 AM
Le Butcherettes, meh ...
Helms Alee, meh ...
Totimoshi, meh ...
I could go on but meh.
that's my opinion too...

the crystal fairy song sounds ok - I am glad it's not under the melvins banner though...
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: GrimReaper on October 05, 2016, 07:55:09 AM
Love it!!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 05, 2016, 08:24:11 AM
Quote from: Mount Ambulance on October 05, 2016, 01:49:47 AM


Le Butcherettes, meh ...
Helms Alee, meh ...
Totimoshi, meh ...
I could go on but meh.
I really value these opinions. But they don't affect mine.


Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2016, 02:07:14 PM
I think it will be interesting to see if now Buzz has worked with Omar, if a load of people from here all of a sudden are going to be big Omar fans. Which kind of happened with Le Butcherettes. Almost no one here cared about the band until they got the Melvins seal of approval.
I've never gotten into any of his music, but I can't say I ever tried. If he pulls them in a general direction away from stuff like Napalm Death toward more stuff I like, Failure and Shudder To Think.... My hero!  :love:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: DToxico on October 05, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2016, 02:07:14 PMOdd that 'Hold It In' or 'Three Men And A Baby' were also collaborations but still credited as "Melvins" whereas this is considered separate from that.

(http://cdn.pitchfork.com/albums/22847/4676fe5c.jpg)

Since when
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Captain CoryCory on October 05, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
After reading Ian's post the project doesn't seem all that shocking but a bit sugarcoated to make it seem like a huge deal. Teri and Omar have had a good working relationship for nearly ten years and there's also the Ipecac connection all four musicians share now. Maybe John Frusciante for a guest spot?  :lol:

I'm sure this album will be great but I'm curious to see what follows of it in the next few years. I'm sure a tour or two will be a given next year in support of the record but then where does it go from there? A One-off like any Les Claypool side project or does all four parties keep it going strong for the years to come?

In closing there's a few musicians who would have been legit shocking to casual and die-hard fans, like Claypool or that Grohl guy who's also in a bunch of bands.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 05, 2016, 12:06:17 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on October 05, 2016, 11:32:16 AM


I'm sure this album will be great but I'm curious to see what follows of it in the next few years. I'm sure a tour or two will be a given next year in support of the record but then where does it go from there? A One-off like any Les Claypool side project or does all four parties keep it going strong for the years to come?

No doubt Teri is on her way up in the world. Omar, I don't know. Melvins.... documentary coming out, trending on Facebook every couple of months. Hold on to your adult diapers, folks!  :shock:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: black stallion on October 05, 2016, 03:56:49 PM
Quote from: buddy holiday on October 05, 2016, 02:02:54 AM
Quote from: Mount Ambulance on October 05, 2016, 01:49:47 AM
Le Butcherettes, meh ...
Helms Alee, meh ...
Totimoshi, meh ...
I could go on but meh.
that's my opinion too...

the crystal fairy song sounds ok - I am glad it's not under the melvins banner though...

Totally agree with you guys...
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on October 05, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Hey Meez.... did anyone post about this on the The Facebook Melvins page yet?





:lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 05, 2016, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: (the) flutter nuts on October 05, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Hey Meez.... did anyone post about this on the The Facebook Melvins page yet?





:lol:
I'll check. Be right back.  :wink:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: buddy holiday on October 06, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 06, 2016, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: buddy holiday on October 05, 2016, 02:02:54 AM
I am glad it's not under the melvins banner though...
I know what you mean and im coming around more to that idea myself based on what i think this record could turn out to be like. However im curious how do you (or others) feel about the Paul Leary songs on Hold It In or most of the tracks on The Crybaby in terms of not being (in the true sense) Melvins songs? Although it pains me to say this, i would say Crystal Fairy as a project probably wouldn't be out of place within the Melvins discography on the basis of those sort of more tenuous records or songs they have put out in the past with other musicians involved.
hold it in and crybaby are great...
i think i just can kind of relate more to those musicians that were involved in these collaborations than butcherettes or mars volta / at the drive in.
plus if it does not say melvins on it i don't "have to" collect it, which is good for my wallet  :wink:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: FartLips on October 06, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
If buzz and dale did a record with the backstreet boys, id give it a solid listen regardless of who they're working with. Dont judge by the parts, judge by the whole.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: (the) Razor on October 07, 2016, 02:02:41 AM
Quote from: FartLips on October 06, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
If buzz and dale did a record with the backstreet boys, id give it a solid listen regardless of who they're working with.

I wouldn't, I'd get on the internets and criticise it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 07, 2016, 07:37:49 AM
This has been a long time coming for me. Been 16 years since the track with Bliss Blood. In the meantime, they've had 2 albums where they let weirdos jack their sound for the entire record (POTRE, Hold It In). Time for a whole album of female vox. Or maybe they switch it around, I don't know.
There's been some online articles with some interview type snippets floating around, but damn if no one will share them with a brutha.  :P
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Von_Grip on October 07, 2016, 03:13:33 PM
when's the 7inch dropping ??
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: 119 on October 07, 2016, 04:03:42 PM
I like this song. Whoever is playing bass on it, I tip my hat to you.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 07, 2016, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: 119 on October 07, 2016, 04:03:42 PM
I like this song. Whoever is playing bass on it, I tip my hat to you.
I read it's Omar. From someone who read the interview type thing that's not posted here.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Alex- on October 08, 2016, 07:31:06 AM
I do really like this song, looking forward to the full album. Really curious if they will tour with this line-up, hopefully..
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Stonergrunge on October 08, 2016, 10:36:26 AM
Well, at least the single is not going to include any rare/exclusive song so my wallet will take a rest for now... between TAD reissues, Soundgarden's Batmotorfinger deluxe edition and my trip to Santiago in November my poor wallet is having a really hard time.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: meezer on October 08, 2016, 10:41:55 AM
Song's posted on AmRep and Ipecac YouTube channels, btw. :nerd:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: the ether bunny on October 09, 2016, 01:43:30 AM
I watched that Omar music video that had Buzz, john Frusciante, and the gender bender punching him in the face, and my first thought was "hey, welcome to six degrees of Mike Patton and Anthony Kiedis collaborations."

I saw the Mars Volta a decade or so ago and it bored me to tears. My friends that I grew up with that were into At the Drive In were the same people that thought Californication was the best album of all time. (Needless to say, as we've grown up, I hate these people now. Who woulda thunk that they would have become judgemental tasteless assholes?)

That said, I like this song. Teri's vocals are superb. Still, I can't help but feel reluctant. And I'm really curious about Omar's random relationship with all things Ipecac.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Bigval on October 09, 2016, 03:29:14 AM
The Mars Volta cop a bit of shit some of it certainly justified and although I never cared for ATDI these two TMV songs are the tits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUBQLnEGHNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrwMMF2QS14
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: BERZERKER on October 09, 2016, 03:39:28 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2016, 02:07:14 PM



(https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/crystal-fairy.png?w=800)




Is she that petite? Or is she standing on her knees? Anyways, I like her vocal on what is a typical Melvins sound, riff- and drumwise. Never liked what I`ve heard with Bucherettes, but here Teri deliver to grade A. If a tour is coming up, I expect it to be Crystal Fairy on one set and Melvins for themselves, in the same gig.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Garnz on October 09, 2016, 07:22:37 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 07, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: laptop sorcery on October 07, 2016, 03:13:33 PM
when's the 7inch dropping ??
I hear it's this Monday. The song on the B-Side is 'Necklace Of Divorce'.
'Necklace Of Divorce' is the A-side... :-)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: deatheats on October 10, 2016, 12:02:11 PM
It is up on ShoxOp now!

(http://i.imgur.com/jNnIxGN.jpg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: dead mike on October 10, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
I really wanted Broken Bat to happen this year. 

*dejectedly walks away to "Christmas Time is Here"*
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: deatheats on October 10, 2016, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: dead mike on October 10, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
I really wanted Broken Bat to happen this year. 

*dejectedly walks away to "Christmas Time is Here"*

You and me both brother!  At least we got one track with Ty and Dale playing together this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVTHFnctLFs
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: dead mike on October 10, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
The first time I listened to that song, I was in my car and I realized I had unconsciously started air drumming along with it. Got home and checked the liner notes, and sure enough, on drums: The Crover.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: deatheats on October 10, 2016, 12:36:51 PM
Ain't Dale something?! 

The good news about Broken bat is they all live in LA now so it seems likely to happen at some point.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: GrimReaper on October 10, 2016, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: deatheats on October 10, 2016, 12:02:11 PM
It is up on ShoxOp now!

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/deatheats/crystal_fairy_1024x1024.jpg)


Is that Manson driving the bus?

Sold Out
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: PepsiMike on October 10, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
How much were they?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Stonergrunge on October 10, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
Red alpha royale?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Ghorn on October 10, 2016, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: PepsiMike on October 10, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
How much were they?

$35
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Garnz on October 10, 2016, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: Stonergrunge on October 10, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
Red alpha royale?
The initial name under which the 7" was made with the old labels. Only the cover was exchanged.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: Dumpster D on October 10, 2016, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 10, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
Quote from: deatheats on October 10, 2016, 12:10:01 PM
we got one track with Ty and Dale playing together this year.
I've said it a million times, Ty Segall = terrible!

Nothing wrong with Ty Segall vocals, same with nothing wrong with tweak bird....and that goes for king Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard as well. They are hardly even an acquired Taste.  [-X
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: FartLips on October 10, 2016, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: Dumpster D on October 10, 2016, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 10, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
Quote from: deatheats on October 10, 2016, 12:10:01 PM
we got one track with Ty and Dale playing together this year.
I've said it a million times, Ty Segall = terrible!

Nothing wrong with Ty Segall vocals, same with nothing wrong with tweak bird....and that goes for king Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard as well. They are hardly even an acquired Taste.  [-X
yeah douche away, ian!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: moose on October 10, 2016, 08:50:06 PM
What else went up for sale today?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Dumpster D on October 10, 2016, 11:18:38 PM
I couldnt afford it, but I guess its up on youtube for now. Those Sold Quick  :( hope they got extras lurking.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: >>>JZS<<< on October 11, 2016, 06:45:33 AM
Thank you , AmRep 🤘🏼🗿🤘🏼
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on October 11, 2016, 11:26:31 AM
More for sale:

http://www.shoxop.com/collections/brand-spanking-new/products/crystal-fairy-necklace-of-divorce-7
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on October 11, 2016, 11:44:45 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on October 11, 2016, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on October 11, 2016, 11:26:31 AM
More for sale:

http://www.shoxop.com/collections/brand-spanking-new/products/crystal-fairy-necklace-of-divorce-7
Thanks, bro.  =D&gt;
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on October 11, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
I think I saw that the tracks will also be available on iTunes shortly?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on October 11, 2016, 02:01:20 PM
Missed again...
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: FartLips on October 11, 2016, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: (PAUL) on October 11, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
I think I saw that the tracks will also be available on iTunes shortly?
=D&gt;
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Dumpster D on October 11, 2016, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on October 11, 2016, 11:26:31 AM
More for sale:

http://www.shoxop.com/collections/brand-spanking-new/products/crystal-fairy-necklace-of-divorce-7

Says sold out.   :(

Dang, We need like an *On your Mark* *get set* *GO*

I will fight you for one hows about? Fair and squares.  :disagree:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on October 12, 2016, 01:12:08 PM
(http://www.impawards.com/intl/misc/2013/posters/crystal_fairy.jpg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Stonergrunge on October 12, 2016, 01:15:05 PM
^ That movie is from a chilean director.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: PepsiMike on October 12, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
Quote from: Ghorn on October 10, 2016, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: PepsiMike on October 10, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
How much were they?

$35
thanks ghorn.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band With Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lop
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on October 13, 2016, 08:52:32 AM
Quote from: PepsiMike on October 12, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
Quote from: Ghorn on October 10, 2016, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: PepsiMike on October 10, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
How much were they?

$35
thanks ghorn.

you should change your name to CrystalPepsiMike.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: PepsiMike on October 13, 2016, 11:50:55 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on October 21, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Really dig the "Drugs on the Bus" song. I cannot help but hear PJ Harvey when I hear Teri. Not a bad thing at all as I love PJ. I guess that I also love Teri.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on October 21, 2016, 03:58:28 PM
Drugs on the Bus is available on iTunes, should be on Spotify and Bandcamp too. No idea why Necklace of Divorce isn't also available. 
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on October 21, 2016, 07:14:38 PM
The song is $1 on their Ipecac Bandcamp page.

https://crystalfairy.bandcamp.com/

Interesting to see all of those Omar solo albums are now up on Ipecac's bandcamp page too.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on October 23, 2016, 05:31:31 AM
not impressed
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on October 23, 2016, 09:27:45 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on October 21, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Really dig the "Drugs on the Bus" song. I cannot help but hear PJ Harvey when I hear Teri. Not a bad thing at all as I love PJ. I guess that I also love Teri.

Could you say perhaps, that Teri is the mexican PJ?  :wink:

There's a local shop with a ton of used PJ Harvey singles. I'm itching to snag them all.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on October 23, 2016, 12:37:13 PM
You should take the singles!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on October 26, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Ten singles bought on store credit. This was a purchase well spent.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on October 26, 2016, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on October 26, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Ten singles bought on store credit. This was a purchase well spent.

\:D/
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on November 19, 2016, 09:40:25 AM
I read today that the original name for this band was apparently Red Alpha Royale. Then i found this. Is it real?

https://www.discogs.com/Red-Alpha-Royale-Necklace-Of-Divorce/release/9198844
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on November 19, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
Yes, and we're not going to find one anywhere.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: brian on November 21, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: Godflesh on November 19, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
Yes, and we're not going to find one anywhere.
I know of a few that are out there  :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on November 21, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/correctamundo-7eej71.jpg)

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/409614210
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on November 22, 2016, 12:39:10 AM
Courtesy of Rev. Mike, I presume.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on November 22, 2016, 02:15:29 AM
Any talk about touring with this new project next year? I guess it will be USA first and then perhaps Europe?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: aeustin on November 25, 2016, 08:25:41 PM
Just waiting on more singles to drop... These few months are gonna be rough!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on December 07, 2016, 05:49:07 PM
New band photo posted today. Dale's looking a little 'glam'

(http://thesickos.free.fr/CF_2016_Press_Promo.jpg)

Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: FartLips on December 08, 2016, 12:49:18 AM
Im gonna ruin it for some people. Look into teri's eyes.


Btw that second chick must be the drummer.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on December 08, 2016, 03:50:44 AM
Quote from: FartLips on December 08, 2016, 12:49:18 AM
Look into teri's eyes.

Whoa.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on December 08, 2016, 05:10:12 AM
Wow. Teri looking super hot there!! Not that she doesn't normally of course. Can't wait to hear more Fairy tunes.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on December 08, 2016, 07:37:28 AM
Damn it. I want these on MP3 too, but I have a 2 cm scratch on the Necklace side so I can't, but I really mean I won't, rip it from vinyl. Why can't I find that song from iTunes, or am I just blind?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on December 08, 2016, 10:58:12 AM
New song stream!!!

http://pitchfork.com/news/70307-crystal-fairy-melvins-at-the-drive-in-share-new-song-chiseler-listen/
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on December 08, 2016, 02:45:52 PM
thx 4 the link  :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on December 08, 2016, 05:04:24 PM
I dig it, especially that chunky guitar riff.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on December 08, 2016, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on December 08, 2016, 05:04:24 PM
I dig it, especially that chunky guitar riff.
chunky indeed, just like this chili i made and am about to consume
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on December 09, 2016, 02:30:57 AM
Buzz creates the best guitar riffs in the world, seriously, he and Iommi are in their own class and I prefer Buzz.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on December 09, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
West Coast mini tour!

Crystal Fairy tour dates:
Tickets on sale Friday, Dec. 16 at 10 am pacific:
February 21 Santa Ana, CA The Observatory Constellation Room
February 22 San Diego, CA Casbah
February 23 Pioneertown, CA Pappy & Harriet's
February 24 Los Angeles, CA The Troubadour
February 25 San Francisco, CA Slim's
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on December 09, 2016, 02:09:16 PM
Pre-orders for the debut album:

Ipecac webstore (physical/bundles): http://www.merchaye-revolve.com/ipecac-music-store
Bandcamp: https://crystalfairy.bandcamp.com/
iTunes: http://hyperurl.co/CrystalFairyiTunes
Amazon: http://amzn.to/2h7utu8
Apple: http://apple.co/2gWqvGH

(http://thesickos.free.fr/CF_Feb2017_Cover_Press.jpg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on December 09, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
I really didn't know what to expect from the artwork, but i certainly didn't expect that cover! Teri the cover star as it were!! I wonder if Mackie worked on it or composed it at all? Can't wait to hear the full record. Goodness Teri is so beautiful! Surprising that the album is released on the 24th - 3 days after the tour starts!

Also i see by the track times there on iTunes that this record is about 40 minutes in length. All pretty short tunes.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on December 09, 2016, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on December 09, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
West Coast mini tour!

Crystal Fairy tour dates:
Tickets on sale Friday, Dec. 16 at 10 am pacific:
February 21 Santa Ana, CA The Observatory Constellation Room
February 22 San Diego, CA Casbah
February 23 Pioneertown, CA Pappy & Harriet's
February 24 Los Angeles, CA The Troubadour
February 25 San Francisco, CA Slim's

dam no portland show :x- its such a tease w those cities on the list
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on December 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 09, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
I really didn't know what to expect from the artwork, but i certainly didn't expect that cover! Teri the cover star as it were!! I wonder if Mackie worked on it or composed it at all? Can't wait to hear the full record. Goodness Teri is so beautiful! Surprising that the album is released on the 24th - 3 days after the tour starts!

Also i see by the track times there on iTunes that this record is about 40 minutes in length. All pretty short tunes.

Most albums are published and ready to sell beforehand so I'm sure they'll have at the very least CDs at the shows.

Still I'd like to be able to see one of those shows though I wouldn't be surprised at all if a full tour followed in the forthcoming months.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on December 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on December 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Most albums are published and ready to sell beforehand so I'm sure they'll have at the very least CDs at the shows.

Indeed, I can still remember buying the first Fantomas album in Oct '98 even though the official release date is now listed as April '99.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GiveMe45 on December 10, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on December 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Most albums are published and ready to sell beforehand so I'm sure they'll have at the very least CDs at the shows.

Indeed, I can still remember buying the first Fantomas album in Oct '98 even though the official release date is now listed as April '99.
Me too.  Saw their first tour in Seattle.

Since I passed up the NYE show maybe I'll make Crystal Fairy my first Pappy and Harriet's experience...?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on December 10, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on December 10, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on December 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Most albums are published and ready to sell beforehand so I'm sure they'll have at the very least CDs at the shows.

Indeed, I can still remember buying the first Fantomas album in Oct '98 even though the official release date is now listed as April '99.
Me too.  Saw their first tour in Seattle.

Since I passed up the NYE show maybe I'll make Crystal Fairy my first Pappy and Harriet's experience...?
Definitely recommended! Awesome atmos, great food, not so many people, big family get-together type of thing, plus you'll get to meet Sadcorps and English Gareth and pass out in the desert.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on December 12, 2016, 02:34:02 PM
Which is very different from passing out in the dessert.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on December 12, 2016, 11:23:58 PM
the limited 7" variant is up

http://www.shoxop.com/products/crystal-fairy-necklace-of-divorce-7-variant
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on December 13, 2016, 10:27:27 AM
Quote from: jules on December 10, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on December 10, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on December 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Most albums are published and ready to sell beforehand so I'm sure they'll have at the very least CDs at the shows.

Indeed, I can still remember buying the first Fantomas album in Oct '98 even though the official release date is now listed as April '99.
Me too.  Saw their first tour in Seattle.

Since I passed up the NYE show maybe I'll make Crystal Fairy my first Pappy and Harriet's experience...?
Definitely recommended! Awesome atmos, great food, not so many people, big family get-together type of thing, plus you'll get to meet Sadcorps and English Gareth and pass out in the desert.

I love Pappy and Harriets!!! Oh the RIBS! THE RIBS!!!!!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on December 13, 2016, 10:59:43 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on December 13, 2016, 10:27:27 AM
Quote from: jules on December 10, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on December 10, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on December 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Most albums are published and ready to sell beforehand so I'm sure they'll have at the very least CDs at the shows.

Indeed, I can still remember buying the first Fantomas album in Oct '98 even though the official release date is now listed as April '99.
Me too.  Saw their first tour in Seattle.

Since I passed up the NYE show maybe I'll make Crystal Fairy my first Pappy and Harriet's experience...?
Definitely recommended! Awesome atmos, great food, not so many people, big family get-together type of thing, plus you'll get to meet Sadcorps and English Gareth and pass out in the desert.

I love Pappy and Harriets!!! Oh the RIBS! THE RIBS!!!!!
😋😋
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on December 14, 2016, 01:35:23 AM
I don't know too much about this project. Saw Dale&Buzz had eyeliner in a pic  :shock:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on December 15, 2016, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: (the) flutter nuts on December 12, 2016, 11:23:58 PM
the limited 7" variant is up

http://www.shoxop.com/products/crystal-fairy-necklace-of-divorce-7-variant

super bummed  :(i missed this variant; however i love that they released an even more limited ver of this 7"- just when you think youve got the only version they go and release a run a 1/3rd of the original edition size (100 vs 300)- again bummed but  i love melvins for this
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 15, 2017, 12:51:54 AM
Tour Dates

Feb 21   The Observatory Constellation Room   Santa Ana, CA   
Feb 22   Casbah   San Diego, CA   
Feb 23   Pappy & Harriet's   Pioneertown, CA   
Feb 24   Troubadour   Los Angeles, CA   
Feb 25   Slim's   San Francisco, CA
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 15, 2017, 08:13:09 PM
New:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: buddy holiday on January 16, 2017, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 15, 2017, 08:13:09 PM
New:
TUE, 2pm central.
12inch, "crystal fairy" b/w "chiseler"
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Nizamark on January 16, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
Selling a pair of tix to Crystal Fairy at the Troubadour...................
Decided to go to Pappy&Harriet's instead.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 17, 2017, 02:06:20 PM
12" on sale now
edition of 150
http://www.shoxop.com/products/crystal-fairy-12-45

*edit* sold out as of 2:16ct
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on January 17, 2017, 02:17:03 PM
Bah. I've had it in my cart several times for 15 minutes, but it always says sold out at checkout.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GiveMe45 on January 17, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
Was preparing to be iced in this afternoon and evening and totally forgot about this...

How much was it going for?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on January 17, 2017, 03:35:13 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on January 17, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
Was preparing to be iced in this afternoon and evening and totally forgot about this...

How much was it going for?

50 clams
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Stonergrunge on January 17, 2017, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: (the) flutter nuts on January 17, 2017, 03:35:13 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on January 17, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
Was preparing to be iced in this afternoon and evening and totally forgot about this...

How much was it going for?

50 clams

50?! No thanks, too much for my budget. At least it didn't include any exclusive song so that's OK but please keep in mind that the Clown Tribute singles were $25 each.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Alex- on January 20, 2017, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Stonergrunge on January 17, 2017, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: (the) flutter nuts on January 17, 2017, 03:35:13 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on January 17, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
Was preparing to be iced in this afternoon and evening and totally forgot about this...

How much was it going for?

50 clams

50?! No thanks, too much for my budget. At least it didn't include any exclusive song so that's OK but please keep in mind that the Clown Tribute singles were $25 each.

Altough this Crystal Fairy record only has 2 songs, it is a 12'' record. The Clown Tributes were 7'' so it makes sense this one is more expensive.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on January 21, 2017, 10:17:16 AM
https://youtu.be/qdhdjM_vuZQ
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on January 21, 2017, 01:04:30 PM
Quite a Melvins sounding tune there.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on January 21, 2017, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 21, 2017, 01:04:30 PM
Quite a Melvins sounding tune there.

(http://webzoom.freewebs.com/shawnmichaels-me-uk/dx16.jpg)

Jokes aside, this song is easily my favorite of the bunch so far. I really should pre-order this thing, highly doubt any store in town will have this.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on January 21, 2017, 07:39:18 PM
Think I'm gonna pre-order the pink vinyl & the CD. 8)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Nizamark on January 22, 2017, 12:09:28 PM
Quote from: Nizamark on January 16, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
Selling a pair of tix to Crystal Fairy at the Troubadour...................
Decided to go to Pappy&Harriet's instead.

Scratch that.
Now I'm selling a pair of tix to Crystal Fairy at Pappy&Harriet's.
Hit me up if you want them. Sadcorps, pls spread the word.
I'm back to going to the Troubadour show......
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on January 25, 2017, 01:58:39 AM
Too lite for my taste, I prefer the previous tracks. Good tune, but to lite.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on January 26, 2017, 06:27:26 AM
Buzz talking about Crystal Fairy, Melvins etc. Jump to 21:40 for the interview.

http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/metal-injection-podcasts/e/48910274?autoplay=true
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: rimb on January 26, 2017, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 26, 2017, 06:27:26 AM
Buzz talking about Crystal Fairy, Melvins etc. Jump to 21:40 for the interview.

http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/metal-injection-podcasts/e/48910274?autoplay=true

Thanks.

"Finishing up two Melvins albums"

:shock:

:D
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on January 26, 2017, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: rimb on January 26, 2017, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 26, 2017, 06:27:26 AM
Buzz talking about Crystal Fairy, Melvins etc. Jump to 21:40 for the interview.

http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/metal-injection-podcasts/e/48910274?autoplay=true

Thanks.

"Finishing up two Melvins albums"

:shock:

:D

Two more Melvins albums imminent?

May this glorious man never stop making music.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on January 27, 2017, 03:38:05 AM
 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Two more!!!!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on February 01, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2017/2/1/buzz-osborne-talks-new-supergroup-crystal-fairy

Had no idea Omar was Teri's husband but that explains a few things.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on February 01, 2017, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: (PAUL) on February 01, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2017/2/1/buzz-osborne-talks-new-supergroup-crystal-fairy

Had no idea Omar was Teri's husband but that explains a few things.
As a Sonic Youth fan, this makes me nervous.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on February 02, 2017, 02:46:56 AM
Quote from: (PAUL) on February 01, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2017/2/1/buzz-osborne-talks-new-supergroup-crystal-fairy

Had no idea Omar was Teri's husband but that explains a few things.

I knew they were in a relationship but didn't know they were married. I found it odd Buzz & Dale would get involved in this project given what will almost assuredly happen if Omar & Teri break up.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 02, 2017, 03:30:29 AM
Quote from: Bigval on February 02, 2017, 02:46:56 AM
I found it odd Buzz & Dale would get involved in this project given what will almost assuredly happen if Omar & Teri break up.
I can't see Buzz and Dale as too concerned really. I imagine if that did happen, that they wouldn't see it as affecting them - they'ed just move on and carry on in Melvins. No biggie to them, kind of thing.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 03, 2017, 05:57:24 PM
Got word via a few posts in a Melvins group that the Constellation Room and Troubadour dates are canceled.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Nizamark on February 03, 2017, 07:38:51 PM
Pappy&Harriet's canceled
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Tstewsd on February 03, 2017, 11:12:33 PM
casbah cancelled due to scheduling conflicts....
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 05:47:53 AM
did they break up yet?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on February 04, 2017, 06:11:44 AM
Quote from: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 05:47:53 AM
did they break up yet?
album hasn't even shipped yet.  :?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 04, 2017, 07:35:03 AM
Quote from: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 05:47:53 AM
did they break up yet?
Haha. Although not the greatest thing in the world, i kinda like what i've heard so far. I think the thing with these kind of deals is that when i hear cool Buzz riffs in the songs, part of me wishes they were used in future Melvins songs and not "thrown away" as it were on a side project.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 07:38:44 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 04, 2017, 07:35:03 AM
Quote from: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 05:47:53 AM
did they break up yet?
Haha. Although not the greatest thing in the world, i kinda like what i've heard so far. I think the thing with these kind of deals is that when i hear cool Buzz riffs in the songs, part of me wishes they were in used in future Melvins songs and not "thrown away" as it were on a side project.

it's not bad indeed...Btw,speaking of a possible break up maybe we found the reason why Dale destroyed his kit  :P
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 04, 2017, 08:16:53 AM
Last show ever??????
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on February 04, 2017, 12:33:21 PM
I wonder if Omar and Teri bailed on the tour cuz Buzz outed them as husband and wife.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 04, 2017, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: anaconda on February 04, 2017, 12:33:21 PM
I wonder if Omar and Teri bailed on the tour cuz Buzz outed them as husband and wife.

That'd be a rather bizarre thing to be mysterious about but if they bailed over that it wouldn't look good on them. If Crystal Fairy gets dropped from Psycho Las Vegas something is really wrong.

Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on February 04, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
Just speculation, but it wasn't public knowledge and neither mention it in interviews, etc.

I just don't see the cancellations having anything to do with Buzz and Dale,
they will play anywhere, anytime, anyhow ...
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 04, 2017, 01:40:54 PM
It's Trump's fault.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: spliff(TONE) on February 04, 2017, 03:15:11 PM
Super bummed about this and yes, I certainly wouldn't think it had anything to do with either Buzz or Dale.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 05:02:29 PM
Quote from: DCGOD on February 04, 2017, 01:40:54 PM
It's Trump's fault.

:lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 04, 2017, 05:37:01 PM
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/IggyPip/im-in-my-dark-place_o_5688135_zpsvv9nq5fk.jpg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on February 04, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
Quote from: anaconda on February 04, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
Just speculation, but it wasn't public knowledge and neither mention it in interviews, etc.

I just don't see the cancellations having anything to do with Buzz and Dale,
they will play anywhere, anytime, anyhow ...

It might not have been public knowledge they were married but it was public knowledge they were in a relationship so I doubt that would make much difference.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on February 05, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
marriage records are not top secret.

wasn't Omar a bit out of place as a spare engineer/ stagehand on that 2015 tour?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: dirtmerchant on February 05, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
Quote from: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 07:38:44 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 04, 2017, 07:35:03 AM
Quote from: black stallion on February 04, 2017, 05:47:53 AM
did they break up yet?
Haha. Although not the greatest thing in the world, i kinda like what i've heard so far. I think the thing with these kind of deals is that when i hear cool Buzz riffs in the songs, part of me wishes they were in used in future Melvins songs and not "thrown away" as it were on a side project.

it's not bad indeed...Btw,speaking of a possible break up maybe we found the reason why Dale destroyed his kit

Dale destroyed his kit???
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 05, 2017, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: dirtmerchant on February 05, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
Dale destroyed his kit???
Basically yes. They are referring to the end of this gig. You can see the video here.

http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=21525.msg597696#msg597696
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on February 06, 2017, 03:44:31 AM
Pretty controlled "destruction" if you ask me, that kit didn`t get much damage if any.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 06, 2017, 05:05:58 AM
Quote from: BERZERKER on February 06, 2017, 03:44:31 AM
Pretty controlled "destruction" if you ask me, that kit didn`t get much damage if any.
Yes, true. It was just strewn around the place. Still looked like it could be reassembled.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on February 13, 2017, 07:55:14 PM
http://metalassault.com/album_reviews/2017/02/13/crystal-fairy-self-titled/

Grunge!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on February 13, 2017, 09:37:20 PM
Quote from: (PAUL) on February 13, 2017, 07:55:14 PM
http://metalassault.com/album_reviews/2017/02/13/crystal-fairy-self-titled/

Grunge!
In every paragraph!  :shock:
Where'd they find this guy?  :D
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Stonergrunge on February 13, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
Long live grunge  :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on February 13, 2017, 10:10:36 PM
Classic grunge!!
Dirty-speed grunge!!
Dirty, driving grunge!!
Thick, driving grunge!!
Modern rock friendly grunge!!
Punk rock infused grunge!!
Muddy-speed grunge!!
Grunge-driven vision!!

We might just have the track titles  for the next Melvins album! 
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GiveMe45 on February 13, 2017, 10:43:57 PM
Quote from: deatheats on February 13, 2017, 10:10:36 PM
Classic grunge!!
Dirty-speed grunge!!
Dirty, driving grunge!!
Thick, driving grunge!!
Modern rock friendly grunge!!
Punk rock infused grunge!!
Muddy-speed grunge!!
Grunge-driven vision!!

We might just have the track titles  for the next Melvins album!
We've got some good subject matter for the next time we hang out
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Garnz on February 14, 2017, 12:16:14 AM
Quote from: deatheats on February 13, 2017, 10:10:36 PM
Classic grunge!!
Dirty-speed grunge!!
Dirty, driving grunge!!
Thick, driving grunge!!
Modern rock friendly grunge!!
Punk rock infused grunge!!
Muddy-speed grunge!!
Grunge-driven vision!!

We might just have the track titles  for the next Melvins album!

How many more types of grunge are out there? Once we get to "user friendly grunge" or "retirement home grunge" I should better stop reading reviews.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: POOP GRENADE on February 14, 2017, 12:10:04 PM
Something actually worth reading, with some insight:

http://thequietus.com/articles/21773-crystal-fairy-interview-melvins
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GrimReaper on February 15, 2017, 03:37:34 AM
 =D&gt;
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 15, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Here's the original version of Possession. Dale pounds those opening drum beats!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Q1c1cQcg8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Q1c1cQcg8)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 15, 2017, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: DCGOD on February 15, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Here's the original version of Possession. Dale pounds those opening drum beats!
Ah so 'PosesiĆ³n' on the record is a cover! Interestingly the second time Melvins have covered Tales Of Terror now what with 'Romance' previously having the Buzz, Dale + other treatment.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: buddy holiday on February 15, 2017, 12:24:19 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 15, 2017, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: DCGOD on February 15, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Here's the original version of Possession. Dale pounds those opening drum beats!
Ah so 'PosesiĆ³n' on the record is a cover! Interestingly the second time Melvins have covered Tales Of Terror now what with 'Romance' previously having the Buzz, Dale + other treatment.
'posesiĆ³n' could mean that Teri sings this one in spanish...
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 15, 2017, 02:40:39 PM
The song sung in Spainish is Secret Agent Rat (God, I live that title!). Possession is basically a Teri/Buzz duet and one of the best songs on the album imho.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 15, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Another interview.

http://smellslikeinfinitesadness.com/teri-gender-bender-talks-debut-album-from-new-supergroup-crystal-fairy-le-butcherettes-the-melvins-at-the-drive-in/
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 15, 2017, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: POOP GRENADE on February 14, 2017, 12:10:04 PM
Something actually worth reading, with some insight:

http://thequietus.com/articles/21773-crystal-fairy-interview-melvins

Regardless of how you feel of this read they're right on the money about Chickenfoot and Superheavy being dogshit.

That recent interview is great too, clearly written at the time the dates were meant to happen.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 17, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
Album stream + interview!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/crystal-fairy-hear-mars-volta-melvins-collabos-debut-lp-w467299
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: the ether bunny on February 17, 2017, 10:37:28 AM
Thanks for this, Ian! I'm stuck in the office for yet another northern California downpour. This will pass the time nicely!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: >>>JZS<<< on February 17, 2017, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 17, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
Album stream + interview!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/crystal-fairy-hear-mars-volta-melvins-collabos-debut-lp-w467299

Great Album !!!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 17, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
Quote from: >>>JZS<<< on February 17, 2017, 11:16:04 AM
Great Album !!!
I'll be interested to hear what fans who already like Teri's other acts think about this. So far i've only listened through the record once but it didn't really strike me too much. Maybe even a slight nonplussed reaction on my part. But then 9 times out of 10 i guess that's my usual response to a new Melvins record. Not that this is a Melvins record of course. I read a little comment someone else said who had heard the record a few days ago and they said it gets bad after the first 6 songs. I wouldn't go that far but i did feel my interest drop around that point. Still, i'll be listening more this next few days! I'll probably love it by this time next week.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 18, 2017, 08:28:23 AM
'Moth Tongue' is such a Melvins sounding song. 'Secret Agent Rat' too. Quite a bit of Buzzo riffage. It's always interesting, but at the same time in a way unfortunate to listen to a project such as this and unpick who did what. It's kind of unavoidable to do so though.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 18, 2017, 02:12:56 PM
"I think having Terri as the singer made it where we wanted to do a new band. We wanted to have something new and have her be the frontperson. I guess that's why. It is certainly different enough. It has our sound, but it also has her thing. She's all over it and she wrote all the lyrics." - Dale.


I know the band see this as a different entity but i have to say i still think of it as a "Melvins album". I think even what Dale mentions above doesn't rule it out. I mean when you think of The Crybaby, Chicken Switch, Hold It In or even Everybody Loves Sausages those records all in one way or another blur the lines that Dale outlines above there.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on February 18, 2017, 09:37:43 PM
Personally I don't think this Crystal Fairy album sounds much like the Melvins at all.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on February 18, 2017, 10:44:01 PM
when does this album ship? anybody?  :o
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 19, 2017, 05:10:38 AM
Quote from: Bigval on February 18, 2017, 09:37:43 PM
Personally I don't think this Crystal Fairy album sounds much like the Melvins at all.
Oh it does for me. Very much so. Some songs or moments don't really come across as a Melvins track, 'Under Trouble' for example, but then lately Melvins albums have had a few surprise odd songs on there. So that just fits into that for me.

BTW, i have to say that i think 'Posesion' is the worst song on here and it's a cover!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on February 19, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
been listening to this a couple of times. it grew up a little bit after second listen. some good moments by Buzz and Dale. still think there's too much Teri in the mix, considering also she doesn't stop a moment singing. not the best thing i heard involving Buzz and Dale but a decent straight rock album and i can see them being excited collaborating with a true frontwoman
looking forward to new Melvins material...
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on February 19, 2017, 07:33:47 AM
mmmmh

i repeat, looking forward to new Melvins material  :wink:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on February 21, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
Damn this album is AMAZING!!!!!!

Can't believe i didn't pre order the pink vinyl before it sold out  :?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 21, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
Quote from: (the) flutter nuts on February 21, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
Damn this album is AMAZING!!!!!!
I think i'd go with an 8/10. Im tempted to say it's better than Basses Loaded, certainly in terms of consistency anyway but perhaps overall with all things considered it's about the same. It's something of a "grower" this album, but i still think Under Trouble, Posesion and Sweet Self are the lesser points on the record. Not bad but just not so great to me. Does anyone else cringe at that bit in the title track where Teri says "Hey yo, Crystal do you want a cigarette?". ?? That little bit irritates me so much. Perhaps in the way she says it too.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Godflesh on February 21, 2017, 03:18:56 PM
I say it. It's better than Basses and 8/10.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 21, 2017, 03:42:14 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 21, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
Does anyone else cringe at that bit in the title track where Teri says "Hey yo, Crystal do you want a cigarette?". ?? That little bit irritates me so much. Perhaps in the way she says it too.
Yes, huge turn-off for me too.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on February 22, 2017, 10:25:58 AM
I don't mind that part, it makes me think of The Runaways or something
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on February 22, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
Haven't listened. Ship it out already!  :o
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 22, 2017, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: meezer on February 22, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
Haven't listened. Ship it out already!
Not to any of the songs?? Surely you've heard the 3 that got previewed early?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 22, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Quote from: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 21, 2017, 03:42:14 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 21, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
Does anyone else cringe at that bit in the title track where Teri says "Hey yo, Crystal do you want a cigarette?". ?? That little bit irritates me so much. Perhaps in the way she says it too.
Yes, huge turn-off for me too.

It's the most 90s thing about this record, honestly. Reminded me of Pixies, Lydia Lunch and Sleater-Kinney.

Overall it's a 7/10 record for me. Way too arty to be grunge but it's not bad even if some of the songs are as straightforward alternative rock as it gets. Honestly, it's a great vocal/lyric clinic for Teri with her at times overshadowing the backing players through Dale kills it on Crystal Fairy and a few others and of course Buzz is a riff factory. Omar as a bassist is fine but we all know his forte is his guitar and a thousand pedals. Some of the songs don't do much for me either.

I like it but I'm not sure if I'll be revisiting this album a lot and I got a sinking feeling this may be the only album we get of this group. I told a friend Omar was playing bass on it and he already doesn't want to hear it (He's a fickle individual in terms of music and a diehard Volta fan).

Highlights? Chiseler, Crystal Fairy, Under Trouble, Bent Teeth, Posesion
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on February 22, 2017, 06:59:38 PM
Probably not much chance for Crystal Fairy touring happening this year now with At The Drive-In's comeback album coming out on the 5th May.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on February 22, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
What's up with this album cover?
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_1080/MI0004/195/MI0004195382.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 22, 2017, 07:21:03 PM
Besides being rather large? :) No really, its kinda cool.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on February 22, 2017, 08:00:22 PM
looks like mackie took a shot at re-designing the original 'whipped-together' looking one
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on February 22, 2017, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: anaconda on February 22, 2017, 08:00:22 PM
looks like mackie took a shot at re-designing the original 'whipped-together' looking one

Nailed it! The tiny skull was a dead give-away wasn't it.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on February 22, 2017, 11:05:25 PM
that and the Bodoni Ultra Bold italic typeface. She used it on the inside of TBSM as well if I recall.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on February 23, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on February 22, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Way too arty to be grunge but it's not bad even if some of the songs are as straightforward alternative rock as it gets.
One thing i really like about this record is that it DOESN'T have any silly, embarrassing, kitsch songs like Melvins usually like including into recent releases. No Buzz!! I don't care how much you try to make me like them i wont!!!


Quote from: (PAUL) on February 22, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
What's up with this album cover?
That's obviously just a sleeve (perhaps a carboard one) that goes over the other cover. Im sure the "proper" cover art is intact beneath.


Quote from: Captain CoryCory on February 22, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
I got a sinking feeling this may be the only album we get of this group.
Im unsure on that too. I'd say the chances are 50-50.


Quote from: Captain CoryCory on February 22, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
I told a friend Omar was playing bass on it and he already doesn't want to hear it (He's a fickle individual in terms of music and a diehard Volta fan).
That's silly! I'd always at the very least give something a chance.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: POOP GRENADE on February 23, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 21, 2017, 03:42:14 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 21, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
Does anyone else cringe at that bit in the title track where Teri says "Hey yo, Crystal do you want a cigarette?". ?? That little bit irritates me so much. Perhaps in the way she says it too.
Yes, huge turn-off for me too.

ALBUM RUINED
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on February 23, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: POOP GRENADE on February 23, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
ALBUM RUINED

  :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on February 23, 2017, 11:40:06 AM
 #-o
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Topaz on February 23, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
Definitely can't wait to have this in my grubby little hands!  :P
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on February 23, 2017, 03:04:23 PM
Just got a shipping notification from Revolve, ordered the CD with the shirt. Now lets see how long it takes it to arrive, from a place that is about 30 minutes from where I live.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on February 23, 2017, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 22, 2017, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: meezer on February 22, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
Haven't listened. Ship it out already!
Not to any of the songs?? Surely you've heard the 3 that got previewed early?
I listened to Drugs On The Bus plenty 3 or 4 months back, Necklace Of Divorce once or twice on the 7" when I got it, but haven't checked out the stream yet. I'll wait if this would just get released soon.  [-o&lt;
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on February 24, 2017, 06:20:15 AM
Crystal Fairy gets the Pitchfork treatment... And they get a 7.7!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22890-crystal-fairy/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22890-crystal-fairy/)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on February 24, 2017, 07:58:10 AM
Quote from: (PAUL) on February 23, 2017, 03:04:23 PM
Just got a shipping notification from Revolve, ordered the CD with the shirt. Now lets see how long it takes it to arrive, from a place that is about 30 minutes from where I live.
Can't you go pick them up and say hi?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on February 24, 2017, 08:03:39 AM
of course I ordered the cd and vinyl + a shirt on one and then I realized I screwed myself yet again. pay for priority shipping because of the shirt, wait extra weeks for the cd because of the vinyl pressing delays. why did I do this again? don't answer that.  ](*,)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on February 24, 2017, 09:28:06 AM
I listened to the album in it's entirety last night. Took a few bong hits and dived in. I think this is easily the best HARD ROCK album to come out in at least a decade. Seriously. This album melted my face off. So much ROCK ROCK ROCK ROCK.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: POOP GRENADE on February 24, 2017, 09:48:09 AM
As with the Le Butcherettes catalog, I think these songs are due to get better after seeing them performed live. 
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Post by: ))))(((( on February 24, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Best song on this album?? Easy, it's 'Secret Agent Rat' all day for me! Awesome Buzzo riff alert! I wonder what Teri is singing about in that one. Anyone know any Spanish?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Stonergrunge on February 24, 2017, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 24, 2017, 11:57:20 AMAnyone know any Spanish?

Come on Ian, you know I'm chilean... With that being said, her spanish reminds me a lot of Cedric's, a very poor one (obviously on purpose) with tons of grammatical errors and misspellings and most of the time what they say simply makes no sense... unless you take the lyrics as pure poetry. If I put a "..." it's because I don't understand what she's saying.


Secret Agent Rat
Congelaron con la arma del insulto de mi mar (it could be "mal", I'm not sure)
Centigrados de un acento
Lleva meses sin volar

Entre huecos de suspiro
No cabe el aire en mi mente
Estamos lleno de olvidos
Con la lava tu miseria (well, it sounds like she were saying lava)

No existe
El hacer (it could also be "El lƔser" but I don't think so)
Ɖl come
Es su instinto
El pensar
No viene del hombre

Congelaron con la arma del insulto de mi mar (it could be "mal", I'm not sure)
Centigrados de un acento
Lleva meses sin volar

Entre huecos de suspiro
No cabe el aire en mi mente
Estamos lleno de olvidos
Con la lava tu miseria (well, it sounds like she were saying lava)

SĆ­ se puede
En crecer (I'm not so sure about this part)
Ignorancia es la muerte
IlumĆ­name con el mundo de luz

Estuvieron con el tiempo
Un milagro celestial
Sin darse cuenta uno muere
En el llanto ooohhh

En este dĆ­a me he dado cuenta
Que todos somos mƔquinas
No existe el hombre, Ć©l se ha ido
Con el agua y tu ... (sorry, I don't understand the last part)

En este lugar tan oscuro
Solo hay un Dios
Que nos pide, que nos pide
Que usemos nuestros poderes
Nuestros poderes
Nuestras alimentaciones
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Post by: Mints on February 24, 2017, 09:24:34 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 23, 2017, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: POOP GRENADE on February 23, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
ALBUM RUINED
Not quite on this occasion but at the same time don't underestimate the effect something perceived as bad can have on a record. Freak Puke for instance. A fine Melvins album but Tommy Goes Berserk absolutely sucks. Or at least the first 3 minutes of it do. That easily ruins the record for me. I still enjoy Freak Puke of course but i always stop it after Let Me Roll It. Thank god it's the last track is all i can say.

Two truths:

1. To each his own.
2. You're deaf.
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Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 26, 2017, 06:57:51 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 23, 2017, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: POOP GRENADE on February 23, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
ALBUM RUINED
Not quite on this occasion but at the same time don't underestimate the effect something perceived as bad can have on a record. Freak Puke for instance. A fine Melvins album but Tommy Goes Berserk absolutely sucks. Or at least the first 3 minutes of it do. That easily ruins the record for me. I still enjoy Freak Puke of course but i always stop it after Let Me Roll It. Thank god it's the last track is all i can say.
Seriously?! O_o I thought it was the best on the album when it came out o.o (Then I just grew to like more songs from it and it became harder to choose one favorite)
And no, it's not exactly a deal breaker, but it's... cringy.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (the) Razor on February 26, 2017, 09:12:43 PM
Just heard Crystal Fairy's ST. Better than expected but not sure I'll feel the need to revisit it that much.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: FartLips on February 27, 2017, 12:07:06 AM
Like it muchy. Prolly play it more than the last couple melvins recs.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Stonergrunge on February 27, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 25, 2017, 04:39:18 AM
Thanks Stoner!! I translated what you wrote and came up with this!! Like you say it's not a story as such but it does give a good impression of what the song might be about. Thanks for taking time to write out the lyrics! It's funny that you say Cedric and Teri both sing Spanish poorly. To my, untrained ear it sounded authentic. Ha.

I changed a few things:

Frozen with the weapon of the insult of my sea
Centigrades of an accent
It has been months without flying

Between holes of sigh
The air does not fit in my mind
We are full of forgetfulness
Wash away your misery

Does not exist
To do
He eats
It's his instinct
To think
It does not come from the man

Frozen with the weapon of the insult of my sea
Centigrades of an accent
It has been months without flying

Between holes of sigh
The air does not fit in my mind
We are full of forgetfulness
Wash away your misery

Yes you can
To grow
Ignorance is death
Enlighten me with the world of light

They were over time
A heavenly miracle
Without realizing it one dies
In crying ooohhh

On this day I realized
That we are all machines
There is no man, he is gone
With water and your ...

In this place so dark
There is only one God
Requesting us, requesting us ("Asking us" should work too but I think "requesting" is more clear within the context)
To use our powers
Our powers
Our feeds
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: johnnyg on February 28, 2017, 12:55:02 PM
Here's my review. Honestly, the more I listen to it, the more I like it. though, with the tour cancellation, I wonder if this project will be a non-starter. Were there any live Crystal fairy shows at all? Was anyone there?


https://www.punknews.org/review/14925/crystal-fairy-crystal-fairy
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on February 28, 2017, 03:21:51 PM
No shows took place, but it was only a 5 date west coast mini tour. The Melvins don't tour in the dead of winter, but the rest of the year is open (after the Redd Kross/ LB/ATDI stuff this spring).
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Hot Pants on March 01, 2017, 04:49:44 AM
Quote from: (PAUL) on February 22, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
What's up with this album cover?

its the plastic slip cover for the digipack. not sure what the LP art is like.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Oscar on March 01, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
I think being a Melvins fan doesn't really help going into this album.
And by that I don't mean that the Melvins set an unreachable bar, because I did try and keep an open mind and listen to this as a new band. But what does happen to Melvins fans is that you get wind of Buzz talking about the project. Saying how great it is, how easy the sessions were and how quickly everything came together. Those would be interesting points if this music weren't so aggressively mediocre. And to truly engage with them as a new band, it's sounds too much like recent Melvins. Hell, it's even partly recorded by Toshi. It's my own fault that I read and watch interviews but for people that constantly talk about how ahead of the curve and weird they are, this is awfully derivative and not at all challenging. Teri seems to be perfectly content sounding like a second rate PJ Harvey and Omar's nondescript bass lines might as well have been overdubbed by Dale. Not that it matters, but even the name stinks.

Now some of you might scoff and call me a hater which is fine. But this is a forum, it's not like I'm waiting outside the venue after a show to tell them what I think about their work. Some of my lifelong heroes have dropped stinkers and I still love them all the same.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on March 01, 2017, 09:34:49 AM
so...... five stars?!  :lol:
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Post by: Oscar on March 01, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
Strong 9 to a light 10
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: shits and gigs on March 01, 2017, 10:04:09 AM
Quote from: Oscar on March 01, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
I think being a Melvins fan doesn't really help going into this album.
And by that I don't mean that the Melvins set an unreachable bar, because I did try and keep an open mind and listen to this as a new band. But what does happen to Melvins fans is that you get wind of Buzz talking about the project. Saying how great it is, how easy the sessions were and how quickly everything came together. Those would be interesting points if this music weren't so aggressively mediocre. And to truly engage with them as a new band, it's sounds too much like recent Melvins. Hell, it's even partly recorded by Toshi. It's my own fault that I read and watch interviews but for people that constantly talk about how ahead of the curve and weird they are, this is awfully derivative and not at all challenging. Teri seems to be perfectly content sounding like a second rate PJ Harvey and Omar's nondescript bass lines might as well have been overdubbed by Dale. Not that it matters, but even the name stinks.

Now some of you might scoff and call me a hater which is fine. But this is a forum, it's not like I'm waiting outside the venue after a show to tell them what I think about their work. Some of my lifelong heroes have dropped stinkers and I still love them all the same.


good stuff.   I agree with most everything you expressed.  The only WILD CARD is the LIVE SHOW.
The chick is crazy fun to watch and I imagine the songs have more POP live.
just like the COWS.... eeally good on vinyl but top notch AWESOME FUN live.
She even does the Exorcist Crab walk... :shock:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Oscar on March 01, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
I agree, energy is a major factor. Here's hoping they pull a tour together sometime.
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Post by: black stallion on March 01, 2017, 01:19:37 PM
i totally agree with Oscar
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Post by: meezer on March 01, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
I listened Monday when the dl came in and I loved it. Is it a Melvins Album? No. Is it about 95% better than the last Le Butcherettes album from the standpoint of a Melvins fan? Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on March 01, 2017, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: meezer on March 01, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
Is it a Melvins Album? No.
I still think it is in a sense. Put it this way, is it any less of a Melvins album than The Crybaby??
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on March 01, 2017, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 01, 2017, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: meezer on March 01, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
Is it a Melvins Album? No.
I still think it is in a sense. Put it this way, is it any less of a Melvins album than The Crybaby??
In a way, no. No Country, no experimental Patton/Yow stuff, no Nirvana cover, no long twisty songs that aren't quite Roman Dog Bird/Hung Bunny type stuff. The music is pretty much Melvins. The vocals aren't.
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Post by: John Schuller on March 01, 2017, 03:26:40 PM
I think this is less a Melvins album (Buzz write 99% of that material and sings all over it) whereas this is more a Crystal Fairys album (multiple writers, different singer, and a different sound).

But then, I also think Hold It In is less of a Melvins album and more of a Melvins / Butthole Surfers album.

It is sooooo confusing anymore! hahahhaa!!!

Anyway - I think this album straight up rocks. And Teri seems a LOT less PJ than in the Le Butercherette songs that I have heard. Still some PJ in there but it doesn't feel like a rip off.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: PepsiMike on March 01, 2017, 07:22:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar on March 01, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
I think being a Melvins fan doesn't really help going into this album.
And by that I don't mean that the Melvins set an unreachable bar, because I did try and keep an open mind and listen to this as a new band. But what does happen to Melvins fans is that you get wind of Buzz talking about the project. Saying how great it is, how easy the sessions were and how quickly everything came together. Those would be interesting points if this music weren't so aggressively mediocre. And to truly engage with them as a new band, it's sounds too much like recent Melvins. Hell, it's even partly recorded by Toshi. It's my own fault that I read and watch interviews but for people that constantly talk about how ahead of the curve and weird they are, this is awfully derivative and not at all challenging. Teri seems to be perfectly content sounding like a second rate PJ Harvey and Omar's nondescript bass lines might as well have been overdubbed by Dale. Not that it matters, but even the name stinks.

Now some of you might scoff and call me a hater which is fine. But this is a forum, it's not like I'm waiting outside the venue after a show to tell them what I think about their work. Some of my lifelong heroes have dropped stinkers and I still love them all the same.
Agree with everything.
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Post by: ))))(((( on March 02, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
This is a good interview with Buzz. Especially when he talks about music and metal. He's likes Meshuggah too!! By the way (((O))) is not me.

http://echoesanddust.com/2017/02/the-legendary-buzz-osborne-from-the-melvins-and-crystal-fairy/
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Post by: black stallion on March 02, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
nice interview! I disagree so much with Buzz about Ozma and songwriting process in general. Stoner Witch took a lot of time to be recorded but you can hear more stuff and ideas on that album than on four/ five latest Melvins releases.the more time you spend in the studio the more quality you get.especially when you speak of super talented musicians like Buzz or Dale.just my opinion
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Post by: ))))(((( on March 02, 2017, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: black stallion on March 02, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
I disagree so much with Buzz about Ozma and songwriting process in general. Stoner Witch took a lot of time to be recorded but you can hear more stuff and ideas on that album than on four/ five latest Melvins releases.the more time you spend in the studio the more quality you get.especially when you speak of super talented musicians like Buzz or Dale.just my opinion
Hmm im not sure myself. I think of course it depends on the type of music people record i guess. I have no experience of it myself but i think i do tend to agree with Buzz here that keeping things quick and to the point keeps it fresh and vital. I think you can actually hear that in a song or an album. When alternatively sometimes things can easily get bogged down over thinking things or adding layers. But yes i agree that if it's a great musician they probably bypass a lot of that to an extent.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: espanto on March 02, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
If you sit on the pot too long, shit starts to stink.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: rimb on March 02, 2017, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 02, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
This is a good interview with Buzz. Especially when he talks about music and metal. He's likes Meshuggah too!! By the way (((O))) is not me.

http://echoesanddust.com/2017/02/the-legendary-buzz-osborne-from-the-melvins-and-crystal-fairy/

Melvins double album incoming!

8)
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Post by: black stallion on March 02, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: espanto on March 02, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
If you sit on the pot too long, shit starts to stink.

but Ozma smells so good  :D
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 04:14:31 AM
Quote from: rimb on March 02, 2017, 05:05:16 PM
Melvins double album incoming!
I know! It's exciting isn't it? But at the same time im bracing myself for the old, familiar responses that double albums are subjected to. You know, the familiar - "it should have been two separate albums instead" or "if they took out the filler and kept it as a single album it would have rocked". However the bad and disappointing thing being...  i can see myself ending up saying both of those!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: espanto on March 03, 2017, 08:51:06 AM
Quote from: black stallion on March 02, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: espanto on March 02, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
If you sit on the pot too long, shit starts to stink.

but Ozma smells so good  :D

I guess it depends.

(http://combiboilersleeds.com/images/depends/depends-7.jpg)
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Post by: johnnyg on March 03, 2017, 10:37:13 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 04:14:31 AM
Quote from: rimb on March 02, 2017, 05:05:16 PM
Melvins double album incoming!
I know! It's exciting isn't it? But at the same time im bracing myself for the old, familiar responses that double albums are subjected to. You know, the familiar - "it should have been two separate albums instead" or "if they took out the filler and kept it as a single album it would have rocked". However the bad and disappointing thing being...  i can see myself ending up saying both of those!

Aaaaah... but if I may counter- Pigs of the Roman Empire was a double and I think it definitely NEEDED to be a double Lp. a single disc just wouldn't have made the same impact and artistic statement.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 10:43:54 AM
Quote from: johnnyg on March 03, 2017, 10:37:13 AM
Aaaaah... but if I may counter- Pigs of the Roman Empire was a double and I think it definitely NEEDED to be a double Lp. a single disc just wouldn't have made the same impact and artistic statement.
POTRE was a double album?? I suppose that was the case in the sense of vinyl, but i took it Buzz meant it was going to be a double CD release. Or let's put it this way - about 80+ minutes of music in total. A "double album" like The Wall is or such.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: johnnyg on March 03, 2017, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 10:43:54 AM
Quote from: johnnyg on March 03, 2017, 10:37:13 AM
Aaaaah... but if I may counter- Pigs of the Roman Empire was a double and I think it definitely NEEDED to be a double Lp. a single disc just wouldn't have made the same impact and artistic statement.
POTRE was a double album?? I suppose that was the case in the sense of vinyl, but i took it Buzz meant it was going to be a double CD release. Or let's put it this way - about 80+ minutes of music in total. A "double album" like The Wall is or such.

Well, we will see. A double CD double album is A LOT of music for sure...
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Post by: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: johnnyg on March 03, 2017, 01:02:30 PM
A double CD double album is A LOT of music for sure...
It's with Buzz saying "we've never done one before" that makes me think he means a full-on DOUBLE record. Al la Swans!! Can't wait to see what it will be. That "history of rock n roll" idea that Steve mentioned seems the most obvious (and likely) to me from what we know anyway.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on March 03, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
Mellon Wallie And The Physical Graffiti
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on March 03, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 04:14:31 AM
Quote from: rimb on March 02, 2017, 05:05:16 PM
Melvins double album incoming!

wonder if it'll be one of those old school double cd cases ie the wall OR the single cd case w a swing divider lol
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on March 03, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: laptop sorcery on March 03, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
wonder if it'll be one of those old school double cd cases ie the wall OR the single cd case w a  plastic divider lol
If i was guessing (and i am!) i'd say a cardboard sleeve where you can put a CD in either end.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on March 03, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
On topic of Crystal Fairy after one week of hearing: I like it a lot. Moth Tongue is my fave tune currently.

I think some of you are too hypercritical of this project. Of course it's going to sound a little more conventional than a standard Melvins album, the music was made to fit Teri's style. It's not reinventing the wheel, it's rock 'n' roll bottom line. The singing is great, the drummer kills, the riffs are awesome, and the bass player holds it down well. 8) Bottom line, I don't understand how you could not love this album if you're a Melvins and/or Le Butcherettes fan.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on March 03, 2017, 06:50:39 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on March 03, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
Bottom line, I don't understand how you could not love this album if you're a Melvins and/or Le Butcherettes fan.

It's not bad by any means but I just found the album a bit boring and mundane heard it all before done better.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on March 03, 2017, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on March 03, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
On topic of Crystal Fairy after one week of hearing: I like it a lot. Moth Tongue is my fave tune currently.

I think some of you are too hypercritical of this project. Of course it's going to sound a little more conventional than a standard Melvins album, the music was made to fit Teri's style. It's not reinventing the wheel, it's rock 'n' roll bottom line. The singing is great, the drummer kills, the riffs are awesome, and the bass player holds it down well. 8) Bottom line, I don't understand how you could not love this album if you're a Melvins and/or Le Butcherettes fan.

touche chief, touche
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: the bloat on March 03, 2017, 10:33:21 PM
I'm envisioning some acoustic numbers, some noise songs, some thrash, some lumbering, heavy stuff, some electronic, etc. WIth Buzz's deep love for classic rock and what a double album stands for in that genre, it will likely include all the things that they've tried in the past, rolled into one album. In my opinion, Stag did a great job of blending all those styles together. That will be a tough one to top.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: the bloat on March 03, 2017, 11:26:54 PM
QuoteA fine Melvins album but Tommy Goes Berserk absolutely sucks.

I like this song a lot. The first 3 minutes remind me of something you would hear on the Bootlicker. This is one of the few songs in the last 10 years, where the Melvins have actually tried some new sounds. The next six minutes are standard fare. Buzz noodling, etc. Then we have some ambient soundscapes and some chopped up vocals which have been appearing a lot lately at the end of tracks.

Hey! To each their own. I think if you really like what the Melvins do, you would be able to appreciate Tommy Goes Berserk, I've certainly heard worse Melvins songs.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Oscar on March 04, 2017, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on March 03, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
On topic of Crystal Fairy after one week of hearing: I like it a lot. Moth Tongue is my fave tune currently.

I think some of you are too hypercritical of this project. Of course it's going to sound a little more conventional than a standard Melvins album, the music was made to fit Teri's style. It's not reinventing the wheel, it's rock 'n' roll bottom line. The singing is great, the drummer kills, the riffs are awesome, and the bass player holds it down well. 8) Bottom line, I don't understand how you could not love this album if you're a Melvins and/or Le Butcherettes fan.

I find a lot of the latest Melvins output to be along similarly generic lines, to be honest.
Doesn't mean it's trash, just nothing to write home about.

Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on March 04, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
I'm with Chief & Sadcorps- this is a real keeper. I must admit I had reservations, but they were blown away by a powerful, well written and performed gem of an album.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: anaconda on March 05, 2017, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 23, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
That's obviously just a sleeve (perhaps a cardboard one) that goes over the other cover. Im sure the "proper" cover art is intact beneath.

Nope!

(http://thesickos.free.fr/cfv.jpg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on March 05, 2017, 01:00:36 PM
Quote from: anaconda on March 05, 2017, 11:01:30 AM
(http://thesickos.free.fr/cfv.jpg)
Is that a spider on the wall?
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Post by: anaconda on March 05, 2017, 01:42:38 PM
eek!!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Von_Grip on March 05, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
Quote from: anaconda on March 05, 2017, 01:42:38 PM
eek!!

gr8 cover
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DCGOD on March 06, 2017, 06:04:42 PM
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/IggyPip/crystalfairy-1_zpsa0gzuull.jpg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 08, 2017, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

I might be unaware of the better album(s) - please let me know what Hard Rock albums are better. Thanks!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: PepsiMike on March 08, 2017, 11:01:56 AM
Is dale wearing eyeliner?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 08, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 08, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: PepsiMike on March 08, 2017, 11:01:56 AM
Is dale wearing eyeliner?
It appears so yes. Interestingly in the album packaging in one of the close up photos of him alone he doesn't have any on. So he must have applied it during the shoot for a bit of high class freakiness.

I think Buzz is wearing eyeliner as well in the photos from that shoot.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (PAUL) on March 08, 2017, 01:41:34 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 08, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 08, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: PepsiMike on March 08, 2017, 11:01:56 AM
Is dale wearing eyeliner?
It appears so yes. Interestingly in the album packaging in one of the close up photos of him alone he doesn't have any on. So he must have applied it during the shoot for a bit of high class freakiness.

I think Buzz is wearing eyeliner as well in the photos from that shoot.

So is Omar!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: meezer on March 08, 2017, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: (PAUL) on March 08, 2017, 01:41:34 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 08, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 08, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: PepsiMike on March 08, 2017, 11:01:56 AM
Is dale wearing eyeliner?
It appears so yes. Interestingly in the album packaging in one of the close up photos of him alone he doesn't have any on. So he must have applied it during the shoot for a bit of high class freakiness.

I think Buzz is wearing eyeliner as well in the photos from that shoot.

So is Omar!
So is the photographer!  :shock:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: glen on March 08, 2017, 03:19:38 PM
what...  you've never seen Semi-Pro?

(http://i.imgur.com/319Cp0V.jpg)

that shit is intimidating.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on March 09, 2017, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 08, 2017, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

I might be unaware of the better album(s) - please let me know what Hard Rock albums are better. Thanks!
Latest U2 album is in the post, corpsey!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 09, 2017, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: jules on March 09, 2017, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 08, 2017, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

I might be unaware of the better album(s) - please let me know what Hard Rock albums are better. Thanks!
Latest U2 album is in the post, corpsey!

Now, I know that you are joking with that! hahaha!!!

Here is a thread for those of you that know of a BETTER Hard Rock album to come out in the last 10 years can hip me to it!

http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=21572.0
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: some guy on March 09, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

always a ray of sunshine, this guy
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 09, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: some guy on March 09, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

always a ray of sunshine, this guy

I just want him to enlighten me. Seriously, if there is a better Hard Rock Album that has come out in the last decade - I wanna know!!!!!
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: spunkmonkey on March 09, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
Sorry sadcorps, DM's just a contrarian.  He rarely has anything substantive to add.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 09, 2017, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: spunkmonkey on March 09, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
Sorry sadcorps, DM's just a contrarian.  He rarely has anything substantive to add.

Aw. That explains why he just said "False". Nothing of substance. Just an internet jackoff.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: dead mike on March 09, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 09, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: some guy on March 09, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

always a ray of sunshine, this guy

I just want him to enlighten me. Seriously, if there is a better Hard Rock Album that has come out in the last decade - I wanna know!!!!!
Even if we rule out all the albums by melvins, Big Business and bands of that are closer to "metal," and not "hard rock" ...

Sol Invictus
...Like Clockwork
Several albums by Ty Segall
Several albums by Tomahawk
Them Crooked Vultures
Icky Thump
The first two Red Fang albums
Post Pop Depression

This is not a complete list, of course, just stuff that happens to be on my music player or that I could think of off the top of my head. Another thing they have in common? They're all better than Crystal Fairy.

Now please do the Internet argument thing and carefully refute each and every one of these, or at least explain in great detail why one or more of these is subgenre-X and not "hard rock." 
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 09, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 09, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 09, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: some guy on March 09, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

always a ray of sunshine, this guy

I just want him to enlighten me. Seriously, if there is a better Hard Rock Album that has come out in the last decade - I wanna know!!!!!
Even if we rule out all the albums by melvins, Big Business and bands of that are closer to "metal," and not "hard rock" ...

Sol Invictus
...Like Clockwork
Several albums by Ty Segall
Several albums by Tomahawk
Them Crooked Vultures
Icky Thump
The first two Red Fang albums
Post Pop Depression

This is not a complete list, of course, just stuff that happens to be on my music player or that I could think of off the top of my head. Another thing they have in common? They're all better than Crystal Fairy.

Now please do the Internet argument thing and carefully refute each and every one of these, or at least explain in great detail why one or more of these is subgenre-X and not "hard rock."

Thanks for the list and expanding on your reply.

I would certainly say though that Them Crooked Vultures just might be a better Hard Rock album than Crystal Fairy. I mean - it is a pretty damn badass record.

What do you mean Internet argument thing? Did you think my post was intended as some kind of bait? Don't have time for silly internet shit. Thanks again. Oh yeah, and by the way, you are WRONG that all of those albums are better than Crystal Fairy. So there is that.







Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: dead mike on March 09, 2017, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 09, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
Oh yeah, and by the way, you are WRONG that all of those albums are better than Crystal Fairy. So there is that.
OK buddy, if you say so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPX-wuplDvc
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on March 09, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
Pissed Jeans have put some good stuff out in the past decade.  Just sayin. It's really all subjective and silly to get bent out of shape over.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: dead mike on March 09, 2017, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: DeeSonyaChin on March 09, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
Pissed Jeans have put some good stuff out in the past decade.  Just sayin. It's really all subjective and silly to get bent out of shape over.
Agree on both points. I wanted to include Pissed Jeans, but I figured that might prompt someone to shriek "THEY'RE NOISE-PUNK, GET IT RIGHT LOL"

Oh and speaking of Pissed Jeans, the new album is better than Crystal Fairy. Maybe.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 09, 2017, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 09, 2017, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: DeeSonyaChin on March 09, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
Pissed Jeans have put some good stuff out in the past decade.  Just sayin. It's really all subjective and silly to get bent out of shape over.
Agree on both points. I wanted to include Pissed Jeans, but I figured that might prompt someone to shriek "THEY'RE NOISE-PUNK, GET IT RIGHT LOL"

Oh and speaking of Pissed Jeans, the new album is better than Crystal Fairy. Maybe.

The band name Pissed Jeans is about 1,000 times better than Crystal Fairy. I now have high hopes!

Gotta check them out. I do like myself some noise-punk.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on March 10, 2017, 11:33:24 AM
This song got me into Pissed Jeans. It makes me want to piss my jeans. It's not their best, but for some reason I love it!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BstpFV98mRg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BstpFV98mRg)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on March 10, 2017, 01:21:57 PM
Yeah, it is one of their poppier songs which is probably why I like it so much.  They write some of the best lyrics ever...All about modern life crises.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: shits and gigs on March 12, 2017, 12:54:25 PM
hard rock?   sad sack has a hard on for anything melvins related.

what's with the gay labeling?  Who even says hard rock?  dork.

stronger stuff than CRYSTAL FAIRY..
just off the top of my head :lol:
* THE FUCKING WRATH-Valley of the Serpents
* Tweak Bird- reservations
* -(16)- Lifespan of a moth
* Today is the Day-Animal Mother
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: (the) flutter nuts on March 12, 2017, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: shits and gigs on March 12, 2017, 12:54:25 PM
hard rock?   

what's with the gay labeling?  Who even says hard rock?  dork.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OwQVysxa8c
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: pootshoot on March 12, 2017, 10:57:54 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 09, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 09, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: some guy on March 09, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: dead mike on March 08, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 04, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
Best Hard Rock album in a decade.
False.

always a ray of sunshine, this guy

I just want him to enlighten me. Seriously, if there is a better Hard Rock Album that has come out in the last decade - I wanna know!!!!!
Even if we rule out all the albums by melvins, Big Business and bands of that are closer to "metal," and not "hard rock" ...

Sol Invictus
...Like Clockwork
Several albums by Ty Segall
Several albums by Tomahawk
Them Crooked Vultures
Icky Thump
The first two Red Fang albums
Post Pop Depression

This is not a complete list, of course, just stuff that happens to be on my music player or that I could think of off the top of my head. Another thing they have in common? They're all better than Crystal Fairy.

Now please do the Internet argument thing and carefully refute each and every one of these, or at least explain in great detail why one or more of these is subgenre-X and not "hard rock."

...Like Crockwork is not hard rock- shitty QOTSA fay period BS
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 07:20:10 AM
Seems like this new project has gone under the radar for the record store and chains here in Norway, no one had ever heard of Crystal Fairy. Melvins all know about, but they didn`t know this was the bands new project, so I had no luck on my purchase hunt saturday. So now I will have to use Amazon.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 07:28:58 AM
Hard rock has always been the most lame labels on music ever. Makes you think about Krokus, Def Leppard, Ratt etc, classic hard rock from the eighties.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: shits and gigs on March 13, 2017, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 07:28:58 AM
Hard rock has always been the most lame labels on music ever. Makes you think about Krokus, Def Leppard, Ratt etc, classic hard rock from the eighties.

totally.

Whitesnake  fluff.
I do like KROKUS "screaming in the night" viddy.. :nerd:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Stonergrunge on March 13, 2017, 12:19:33 PM
Don't know if I'm gonna be able to buy this on CD during the next 3 or 4 months, there is a lot of big expenses I need to cover so we'll see.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 13, 2017, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: shits and gigs on March 13, 2017, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 07:28:58 AM
Hard rock has always been the most lame labels on music ever. Makes you think about Krokus, Def Leppard, Ratt etc, classic hard rock from the eighties.

totally.

Whitesnake  fluff.
I do like KROKUS "screaming in the night" viddy.. :nerd:

You both have glam rock confused with hard rock - but that is cool.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
No, hard rock is the music that wasn't hard enough to be called metal in the eighties. But it was fun, always with a smile.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 13, 2017, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
No, hard rock is the music that wasn't hard enough to be called metal in the eighties. But it was fun, always with a smile.

I will take that - at this point we are just splitting hairs. I think of Hard Rock and Glam Rock as two separate genres, both related to Metal but neither are hard enough to be metal.

I wouldn't call Crystal Fairy a Metal album.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on March 14, 2017, 07:40:18 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 13, 2017, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: BERZERKER on March 13, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
No, hard rock is the music that wasn't hard enough to be called metal in the eighties. But it was fun, always with a smile.

I will take that - at this point we are just splitting hairs. I think of Hard Rock and Glam Rock as two separate genres, both related to Metal but neither are hard enough to be metal.

I wouldn't call Crystal Fairy a Metal album.

I agree with all that those glam rock bands were hard rock back then but now I would consider them glam rock/hair metal and Crystal Fairy is a definite hard rock album, straight ahead rock is shit like Nickelback and whatever and CF are heavier than that but certainly not metal.

This is all on my mind at the moment because my younger brother has moved house and dumped all his CD's in my mother's garage and wants to sell them all for $1 each and going through them tonight it's full of stuff like Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Judas Priest, Tim Ripper Owens every bloody album Devin Townsend has ever released Meshuggah too. It's depressing but at least he grew out of all the nu-metal stuff like Korn & Limp Bizkit.

Only one Melvins album in there and a best of album at that.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on March 14, 2017, 09:20:46 PM
Teri sounds a lot like a young Geddy Lee on a couple songs,. I could really hear them covering Working (Wo)Man
:nerd:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on March 15, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
Quote from: deatheats on March 14, 2017, 09:20:46 PM
Teri sounds a lot like a young Geddy Lee on a couple songs,. I could really hear them covering Working (Wo)Man
:nerd:

I totally hear the Geddy Lee.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: jules on March 23, 2017, 08:08:41 AM
Japan CD comes with a sticker and an info/lyric sheet in Japanese:

(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad93/AKV126C/AKV126C001/DSC02823_zpsjg1416wb.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/AKV126C/media/AKV126C001/DSC02823_zpsjg1416wb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on March 23, 2017, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 15, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
Quote from: deatheats on March 14, 2017, 09:20:46 PM
Teri sounds a lot like a young Geddy Lee on a couple songs,. I could really hear them covering Working (Wo)Man
:nerd:

I totally hear the Geddy Lee.
Yes. First 3 albums especially.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on April 02, 2017, 05:13:22 AM
Crystal Fairy album review on Blabbermouth.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/cdreviews/crystal-fairy/
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GrimReaper on April 25, 2017, 11:38:02 PM

Did Ipecac ship the CF vinyl yet?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on April 26, 2017, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on April 25, 2017, 11:38:02 PM

Did Ipecac ship the CF vinyl yet?

Yup, I got mine about a month ago.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GrimReaper on April 27, 2017, 12:11:31 AM
 :?
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on August 12, 2017, 09:04:50 AM
When this album was released i read a comment on The Mars Volta forum from someone who said 6 months down the line this record would be forgotten. At the time i didn't agree but now upon reflection that summation seems to be exactly the case. I wouldn't like to place a bet upon the possibility of a future Crystal Fairy show or tour. It does seem like this is over before it even got started.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: vince furnier on August 12, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
this record absolutely smokes and it's a good indicator exactly how lame the fan base is that no one is talking about it.  :D
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on August 12, 2017, 11:20:09 AM
Is it just me or Buzz is not happy to get questions about CF in interviews? i noticed that many times in recent interviews.i think a hard working,super professional guy like Buzz is still pissed to have his schedule ruined. i suspect Crystal Fairy is a dead project
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: deatheats on August 12, 2017, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on August 12, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
this record absolutely smokes and it's a good indicator exactly how lame the fan base is that no one is talking about it.  :D

It is a GREAT record!!  Teri's vocals sync perfectly with the band and she's really capable of delivering a wide range of vocal styles.  I've said it before but I never knew she was a 1974 Geddy Lee impersonator  :-k

Omar is no slouch either...sounds great with the fellas!  I really want to see them live, hope it still happens...

Took me a while to listen to it multiple times as I got it on vinyl, spun it once and then spent the next couple of weeks trying to get a decent sounding digital copy.  The mp3 that was delivered with the vinyl was unlistenable, something really off in the high range... finally got a flac copy which sounded better.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on August 12, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: black stallion on August 12, 2017, 11:20:09 AM
Is it just me or Buzz is not happy to get questions about CF in interviews? i noticed that many times in recent interviews.i think a hard working,super professional guy like Buzz is still pissed to have his schedule ruined. i suspect Crystal Fairy is a dead project

Yeah, I would suspect he's probably a little pissed it didn't happen. Apparently Buzz wanted to put a week or two into rehearsing for a tour which totally makes sense, and Omar wanted none of that. Must have got in the way of ATDI tour preparations or something on his end. I'd guess as long as Teri's married to him, things will be at a standstill, which is really too bad. Omar is totally replaceable in CF. Get Dunn, Rutmanis, Pinkus or whoever from Melvins side, and the band would be even better.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on August 12, 2017, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on August 12, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: black stallion on August 12, 2017, 11:20:09 AM
Is it just me or Buzz is not happy to get questions about CF in interviews? i noticed that many times in recent interviews.i think a hard working,super professional guy like Buzz is still pissed to have his schedule ruined. i suspect Crystal Fairy is a dead project

Apparently Buzz wanted to put a week or two into rehearsing for a tour which totally makes sense, and Omar wanted none of that.

yeah,that should be the reason
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: black stallion on August 20, 2017, 12:54:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar on March 01, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
Hell, it's even partly recorded by Toshi

you said partly? was just trying to give a second possibility to this album and one of my thoughts was it seems to have a better production than Melvins recent stuff (AWWLAD and possibly the Dale solo album too). especially the guitar. on a related note,  this album is better than what i thought
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GrimReaper on December 20, 2017, 04:50:14 AM

Her vocals make CF such a special album.

Hard to believe the CF release isn't even a year old yet.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on December 20, 2017, 05:28:35 AM
I wonder if there will ever be a follow-up release.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on December 20, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 20, 2017, 05:28:35 AM
I wonder if there will ever be a follow-up release.

It'll come out the same week as the second Shrinebuilder album.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GrimReaper on December 20, 2017, 08:57:33 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on December 20, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
I am willing to bet there will be no more Crystal Fairy. Omar bailing on that tour last minute would certainly let Buzz know that he cannot be counted on. Buzz ain't fucking around with that shit post-Kevin.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: aeustin on December 20, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on December 20, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
I am willing to bet there will be no more Crystal Fairy. Omar bailing on that tour last minute would certainly let Buzz know that he cannot be counted on. Buzz ain't fucking around with that shit post-Kevin.
As if he couldn't bring Steve along instead.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Bigval on December 20, 2017, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on December 20, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
I am willing to bet there will be no more Crystal Fairy. Omar bailing on that tour last minute would certainly let Buzz know that he cannot be counted on. Buzz ain't fucking around with that shit post-Kevin.

I think you'll find Omar got a better offer for the same time period (ATD-I tour w/ Le Butcherettes supporting).
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: Captain CoryCory on December 20, 2017, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 20, 2017, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on December 20, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
I am willing to bet there will be no more Crystal Fairy. Omar bailing on that tour last minute would certainly let Buzz know that he cannot be counted on. Buzz ain't fucking around with that shit post-Kevin.

I think you'll find Omar got a better offer for the same time period (ATD-I tour w/ Le Butcherettes supporting).

This. Plus if it's true they're married I can't see Teri touring without Omar in the case of that band. Then again I'm sure you can go back a few pages here and there's a comment or two on Omar being sketchy or flaky.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: John Schuller on December 20, 2017, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 20, 2017, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on December 20, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
I am willing to bet there will be no more Crystal Fairy. Omar bailing on that tour last minute would certainly let Buzz know that he cannot be counted on. Buzz ain't fucking around with that shit post-Kevin.

I think you'll find Omar got a better offer for the same time period (ATD-I tour w/ Le Butcherettes supporting).

Yeah, he certainly had a better offer with ATD. But I doubt Buzz would care what the reason was more than he would care that it fucked with his plans. I would love to see more Crystal Fairy - I loved loved loved that album.
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: GrimReaper on December 21, 2017, 12:07:59 AM

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez's body of work, on Ipecac, made me realize this guy probably did the Crystal Fairy album because his wife talked him into it. We'll never know the inter-workings of the band's relationships. We do have a great album to enjoy.

At this point, I'd like to see Crytal Fairy to be classified as a Melvins release, with it's proper place in themelvins.net discography.  O:)
Title: Re: Crystal Fairy! New Band w/ Buzz, Dale, Teri Gender Bender & Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Post by: ))))(((( on December 21, 2017, 05:04:38 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on December 21, 2017, 12:07:59 AM
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez's body of work, on Ipecac, made me realize this guy probably did the Crystal Fairy album because his wife talked him into it.
I don't think that is quite the case but i certainly think there is an element of this being just another project to work on for Omar. The guy is super prolific and probably just completes one thing so he can get to the next.


Quote from: GrimReaper on December 21, 2017, 12:07:59 AM
At this point, I'd like to see Crystal Fairy to be classified as a Melvins release, with it's proper place in themelvins.net discography.
I used to think this way too. I wanted it to be considered "Melvins" but taking another listen recently, it really is it's own thing. It's probably better that way too.