I am wondering if this album is worth purchasing. It is quite the expensive piece of plastic around here. Many people also say it is terrible and that it's a joke. I know it's one of Buzz's favourites and I am a big fan of Adam Jones. It sounds quite awesome to me. Can you please state your opinion on the cd and whether or not I should purchase it?
it's controlled noise. i like it. i hated it the first time i heard it and i returned it. a year later i bought it and i loved it. it's not for everyone and certainly isn't a joke.
it's great, a little overpriced for a eye flies single if you ask me, well if you have to import it to europe as I had to, but it's still great
Buzz planned this extra long intro to Fly-Eyes to be played live and recorded. It was a one time, good or not, live release. After it was done Buzz christened the work "Colossus of Destiny", and planned to release it with the Triology recordings.
Imagine the crowd reponse to a show like that. Unfortunately, like on "Jacksonville", from the Singles 1-12, the crowd's response cannot be heard. In the Discography section of this site there is a review by someone who attended the show. It says people where on the ground holding their heads in agony. I would have loved to be there.
The intro is about 58 minute long. The sound quality is good. The recording of Fly-Eyes is not the Melvins best. The CD is set up with two tracks. The second track has no music, it's there only so you can't skip ahead. Due to this trickery with the tracking some are led to believe Buzz is fucking with them.
I paid over $17.00 dollars for it at an independant record store. If I had picked it up for $10.00 at a concert I wouldn't feel at all slighted. But for $17.00, when I first heard it I wished I had spent my hard earned money on something else. The liner to the CD has a rubber duck and an artichoke in the fold out. You can enjoy looking at it one or two times. Same as the music, once or twice through and you're done.
I am glad I own it though. It's good to listen to when I drive on extended road trips.
P.S. Don't try to turn anyone on to the Melvins with this release.
it's an interesting listen with headphones, people can ramble about how much of a trip it is on some sort of drug.. if you read some reviews on what sort of album it is you can easily see whether it's a style you're into. it's another part of what the melvins do so it's worth picking up.
I think its a very good album.
I like the COD as well. However, alot of people don't get it, so its not for everybody.
I think its really neat tho.
Quote from: AnonymousI am wondering if this album is worth purchasing. It is quite the expensive piece of plastic around here. Many people also say it is terrible and that it's a joke. I know it's one of Buzz's favourites and I am a big fan of Adam Jones. It sounds quite awesome to me. Can you please state your opinion on the cd and whether or not I should purchase it?
I don't like that album, it is quite bad, just noises and in the end a good music, EYES FLY, if it didn't go that, would not say that is an album of Melvins
oh,,,,and i forgot,in Brasil is very expansive 25U$.
Thanks for your replies folks, I will look around untill I can find it for less than 21 fucking dollars.
Yep, this album is NOT for everyone.
it is not for everybody, very expansive and hard of hearing, just noises.
Quote from: CausesUnknownI like the COD as well. However, alot of people don't get it, so its not for everybody.
I think its really neat tho.
okay, COD, thats a hard one... but come on causesunknown there really
isn't something "to get"... i play guitar and i'm a total effectpedal-geek and
i have studio experiences aswell ... it's really not so hard to create such
noise and cod isn't what i would call "sophiscated noise". however i like it -
but it is DEFINITIVELY NOT better than any other melvins release. i like the
atmosphere that is bound to COD but then again... honky is way more
atmospherical and ominous in my opinion.
so yeah i bought it, i listen to it, i like it, but there is one thing i REALLY
hate about this album... little kids who pretend to "love it" just to feel more
"elite" ... but yeah who cares about that - if you don't like noise don't buy it!
I hate COD too!!
Quote from: Beto BrasilI hate COD too!!
you hate COD? i won't send you that SPK album then.. i thought you liked all that noise.. :?
is this album a joke? is it worth buying? all subjective. now buy it!
i bought it for 11$ at a fucking borders! jesus christ! 17$? 21$! fuck! i almost never buy a cd if it's over 15$ and i managed to find all of the melvins albums like that! HA!
When i first listened to this i thought i'd been ripped off. It took over a year of listens to finally figure out that this isn't just noise, but it is musical. Its neat how the sounds cool off for a time and then build back up again. The version of eye flys is so insane that it's almost worth the price of the CD alone! I love taking a night cruise and listening to this album in its entirety. When I heard the second track I couldn't stop laughing.
i have this album bro, original album, no cdr.about the quake pic, who you think are? duke are us? that buy a bad album = COD ! urgh man !
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ps : have you a news stuff bro? :D
im sorry , my english are very bad man!
Quote from: huberQuote from: Beto BrasilI hate COD too!!
you hate COD? i won't send you that SPK album then.. i thought you liked all that noise.. :?
is this album a joke? is it worth buying? all subjective. now buy it!
I don't really care for COD, but I respect the Melvins for putting it out. I mean, imagine if THE ROLLING STONES released a CD like that. That would be pretty funny, actually, to see all hell break loose.
I love this album. It may not be hard to create noise tracks, but the end result is justified, if you like that sort of thing. I just kind of wish it was a bit louder and more abrasive, myself. But hell, that's what fucking around in Native Instruments Reaktor at 3 in the morning at full volume is for. Not that my neighbors would agree, but fuck 'em.
yeah it seems like most opinions for this album are at 2 opposite sides of the spectrum: love it or hate it. But any way you look at it, it's not really a good CD to start your Melvins CD collection.
Quote from: Leroyyeah it seems like most opinions for this album are at 2 opposite sides of the spectrum: love it or hate it. But any way you look at it, it's not really a good CD to start your Melvins CD collection.
I hate this, a question :
who are the Duck image in the cover art? US?
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The duck image? I don't know why they chose that.
It's ok, people say it's really deep and complex, hard to listen to etc, but I don't think so. It's nice.
Quote from: LeroyThe duck image? I don't know why they chose that.
yes , duck image! i think than,Buzz someday think " Who buy this album is a duck" qua -qua-qua!
shit ! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Quote from: kl0pperIt's ok, people say it's really deep and complex, hard to listen to etc, but I don't think so. It's nice.
to you,but , not for me!
learn to speak english properly or FUCK OFF you idiot beto
Wait until you can catch the Melvins live, man. I picked up my copy for a tenner at the recent Geek Show tour...it's an interesting listen at 2 AM with headphones but I always prefer to stick on Stag or Bullhead.
Incidentally, Kevin should have stuck with Korny Ass Joker. Can you imagine all the mallrat kids getting inot the Melvins because of the Korn connection?
Ten dollar? Me love you long time King Buzzryu.
Hey Melvins fans, here are more 1 nirvaninha fan, the newbie "Joe Press my dick on nails", with your correct english!
thank you my teacher!
hey go to shit forum "LiveNirvaninha.com" loser!
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Quote from: joe press-on nailslearn to speak english properly or FUCK OFF you idiot beto
An hour of wierd noises until finally they play a two minute live version of Eye Flys? The worst part is....I think I like it.
i read somewhere that this was the recording that was the impetus to the crybaby trilogy, i only own the maggot and have heard some of the guest album (the crybaby) and they thank all the crybabies for which none of these recordings would be possible, i guess some people aren't too contented with the way they conduct some of their live showings. i've yet to see them live, but a diehard friend of mine went backstage at a providence show to express his disappointment of the show, and he said Buzzo was actually happy that my friend did not like the show.
this source suggested that colossus was to be the crybaby, but instead became not a joke on music. i was a little disappointed at first, wanting all out balls on the bridge of my nose, teabaggin' fury, but upon repeated listen am fully satisfied with my purchase. :twisted:
Your post is alot like the album. At first I didn't get it but now I see what your saying. If you ever hear of a band called "BUNGFILTERJUNKIES" or "Pig Rectum" I will let you in free.
i've heard of pig rectum, only in the context of jack black's school of rock, though :?
The School of Rock? I haven't seen it yet, Is it good? What do you mean in the context of ""?
This record has a beautiful packing
Quote from: Hog logThis record has a beautiful packing
Best CD art ever!
Quote from: alnisBest CD art ever!
Best cd art? who are the duck? US? i think yes!
I Want my 12 bucks back
COD is really bad.
and , i dont pay only 12 bucks, i pay 22 bucks!
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this cd is worth every penny for the artwork alone.
i regret taking it back when i got it about a year ago..though i was just getting into the melvins so it really threw me off. I dig it muchly now though and i need to pick up a copy.
I take it that Collosus is just abunch of noise? That's one of the albums that I've neglected to pick up, the reason being that my local vendors are oblivious to the Melvins; mostly stores around here just carry Houdini and sometimes Stoner Witch. Besides that, it gets expensive to order stuff, so I really have to want it. Thus, the question; should I or should I not invest in COD?
Quote from: The Piss-MachineThus, the question; should I or should I not invest in COD?
you should...it's really good if you like noisey stuff.
i think its worth it.
Piss-Machine,
I really wouldn't bother paying good money for C.O.D. unless you have every other Melvins album. It's an HOUR of noise that is not musical in the least. Don't get me wrong, I like noise (Boredoms, Coltrane's freest jazz, whatever else) but I honestly wouldn't spend your money on C.O.D. when there's the rest of their catalogue to choose from. If you want good noisy Melvins, get Prick.
"Stop fucking me, you're giving me a headache. Stop fucking me, you're giving me a headache. Stop fucking me, you're giving me a headache..."
i'm sure most of you know this but colossus of destiny isnt even a melvins recording.
it is a live recording of a band called noiseland arcade. [r.i.p.]
eh, members included buzzo and adam jones and some other people who i forgot their names, but yeah so if you didnt know now ya do.
and further data: the name of the video arcade in springfield in the simpsons was "noiseland arcade" wooohoo!
i asked adam about NLA once and he told me that something to do with their old manager or record label prevented their use of the band name and some other shit to where they had to put the experiment to rest... that was the first and only time during adam's chat appearance [toolarmy] that he sounded sincerely agitated.
I have been curious to see if I am the only one who doesn't get it; or one of the few that might..
Does anyone know the origin of the title of this release? As far as I know, the only other time I've heard this combination of words is the nickname/nom de plum/moniker of a railroad worker(or perhaps a hobo, no one's met him) that has worked for one of the freight companies for a long time and is one of the most prominent 'chalk artists'(a type of train/hobo art that consists of very simple designs and/or words that are made with the kind of chalk that freight train workers use to mark containers/trains with to tell other workers in other cities what that car is filled with, weight, or other important specific information).
Now this is a VERY small subculture of folks that know about this, and even smaller group of them even care enough to know certain names that people use, but who knows? Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe 'Collosus of Destiny' is reference to something or it's a commonly used term or whatever that I just don't get or am familiar with.
Can anyone help me figure this one out?
someone said in an older thread, that they had seen it in the book "the road to california"
"Colossus of Destiny" is stolen directly from John Fante's fantastic novel, The Road to Los Angeles. It is the name that the protagonist, Arturo Bandini, plans for his masterwork, the artistic culmination of his entire life. An apt title for that particular album if you ask me. John Fante was a HUGE influence on Charles Bukowski by the way; so if you are a fan of the Buk, definitely check out Fante (especially his early work from the 1930's...)
Quote from: Michael"Colossus of Destiny" is stolen directly from John Fante's fantastic novel, The Road to Los Angeles. It is the name that the protagonist, Arturo Bandini, plans for his masterwork, the artistic culmination of his entire life. An apt title for that particular album if you ask me. John Fante was a HUGE influence on Charles Bukowski by the way; so if you are a fan of the Buk, definitely check out Fante (especially his early work from the 1930's...)
Fante was completley blind when he wrote a lot of his books. He dictated to his wife.
I appreciate the help on this one everybody, thank you.
And ummm...
Quote from: DeleriumEverybody knows that the Collosus of Destiny is a huge cow.
Hunh? :?:
The Road to Los Angeles is a great book. Kind of hard to grasp at first, but then you realize that it's actually funny!
Was Colossus of Destiny pre-planned out, with the parts thought out before they played it live or was it just random on -the-spot improv?
Adam had to have at least pre-loaded the sample from the porno 'stop fucking me, youre giving me a headache' but beyond that who knows, i think its crap personally, its always left a bad taste in my mouth that i paid hard earned money for it.
oh wow. i love it. alot.
i thought you'd like it condie. in fact i thought you said you liked it once....
no wait, that was prick, eh? you like prick. the album. not the -oh man.... im not insinuating you are gay. oh jeez im such an asshole. im so sorry. please forgive me. oh man, how could i do this? im sorry. really. your wife is so hot. please don't hate me. god fuck damnit! im not going to sleep tonight.
i think prick is a good album too. gotta listen to it again soon.
which one IS your favorite, mr.black?
the honky? the eggnog?? the HAT!! ah that's the stuff.
goodnight my sweet fairies.
*smoochies*
ah vincenzo, young impressionable vincent, when i said i liked prick, i did not mean the man member, 'less i be portaging mine thru some fine feminine pootie :o god be with ye lad, arrrrrr :lol:
Quote from: Vcavallooh wow. i love it. alot.
i thought you'd like it condie. in fact i thought you said you liked it once....
no wait, that was prick, eh? you like prick. the album. not the -oh man.... im not insinuating you are gay. oh jeez im such an asshole. im so sorry. please forgive me. oh man, how could i do this? im sorry. really. your wife is so hot. please don't hate me. god fuck damnit! im not going to sleep tonight.
i think prick is a good album too. gotta listen to it again soon.
which one IS your favorite, mr.black?
the honky? the eggnog?? the HAT!! ah that's the stuff.
goodnight my sweet fairies.
*smoochies*
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I wish the melvins would put out more albums along the lines of COD, out of all my melvins (and melvin's connection) albums, I listened to COD the most in the last year or so, the next runner up would be fantomas - Delirium Cordia. But COD, in my opinion, has never been a completed work, it always leaves me wanting more, that's probably why I end up listening to it more than once when I pull it out. and you know what.... I'm going to throw it on right now - THANKS
Quote from: mumuQuote from: Vcavallooh wow. i love it. alot.
i thought you'd like it condie. in fact i thought you said you liked it once....
no wait, that was prick, eh? you like prick. the album. not the -oh man.... im not insinuating you are gay. oh jeez im such an asshole. im so sorry. please forgive me. oh man, how could i do this? im sorry. really. your wife is so hot. please don't hate me. god fuck damnit! im not going to sleep tonight.
i think prick is a good album too. gotta listen to it again soon.
which one IS your favorite, mr.black?
the honky? the eggnog?? the HAT!! ah that's the stuff.
goodnight my sweet fairies.
*smoochies*
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my thoughts exactly....and ill have whatever hes smoking.
Quote from: anaconda.. fine feminine pootie :o god be with ye lad, arrrrrr :lol:
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Quote from: mumuQuote from: anaconda.. fine feminine pootie :o god be with ye lad, arrrrrr :lol:
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i like how every message board has at least the one resident photo shop guy....in all seriousness though, keep it up. :D
AH haha! this thread made me laugh out loud many times. you are all hilarious.
buncha freaks i tell ya
does anyone have a video of one of the colossus of destiny concerts? beto?
Quote from: klumpdoes anyone have a video of one of the colossus of destiny concerts? beto?
no mr Klump.i dont have and i never saw traders with some video about COD,very very rare.sorry..
no prob. Hmm, Iw as just wondering how they did it, and how they behaved on stage and stuff.
maybe there are pictures of the process of noisemaking in the beginning of the concert...
I always thought it was kinda funny. Like they pulled a prank on me.
When I bought it I was driving to the beer store and trying to fast forward
through the noise to get to the song, I was already almost home before I
heard the guitar kick in. Good one guys.
Quote from: klumpno prob. Hmm, Iw as just wondering how they did it, and how they behaved on stage and stuff.
maybe there are pictures of the process of noisemaking in the beginning of the concert...
Wasn't this the concert series where Sir DSSTONE would wave his magic metal sheet around? It was basically a sheet of metal, 2x3 feet (?), that was hooked up to a condenser mic, I believe..
i always wondered why COD was priced as a full length CD??? TECHNICALLY it is. glad i only spent $2 on a used copy. one of the many ingenious ways i think the Melvins pick their own fanbase.
i went to a show where they had a big metal sheet. it was around that time too. they would make alot of noise and then dale would play that drumbeat from the (not-yet-released) HAT song [sorry, blanking on the name] for a long time while the rest make a shitload of really awesome noise. it reminded me of brontasauruses whistling or something. (me and my friend called that "song" in our memory setlist, "Colossus of Destiny", not yet aware of the HAT song. when the album came out i was very surprised and pleased that the melvins were giving us a preview and we had no idea. (maybe they didn't either))
you know the beat, right?
DUH dum dum DUH dum dum DUDalum DUH dum dum Duh dum dum DUDalum DUH dum dumm DUDalum DUH.....
pause
DUDle UDle Udle DUDle Udle Udle DUDleDUDle DUDle Udle Udle Duh.
you know it. right?
i thought that was an amazing way to open a show. anyone else go to these?
there really aren't any videos of these around? i've got audio of em i believe.
sorry for always posting whilst stoneed. it has become a bad habit.
Quote from: rhett E rockone of the many ingenious ways i think the Melvins pick their own fanbase.
i never really thought of it as them hand-picking the fanbase, as much as them just doing what they want and having whatever happen, happen.
i like your way alot better. sometimes it does seem like they are selecting us.
maybe that is just too egocentric?
Quote from: Vcavallothey would make alot of noise and then dale would play that drumbeat from the (not-yet-released) HAT song (sorry, blanking on the name)
It's the drum beat in the middle of Black Stooges.
Quote from: Vcavalloi went to a show where they had a big metal sheet. it was around that time too. they would make alot of noise and then dale would play that drumbeat from the (not-yet-released) HAT song [sorry, blanking on the name] for a long time while the rest make a shitload of really awesome noise. it reminded me of brontasauruses whistling or something. (me and my friend called that "song" in our memory setlist, "Colossus of Destiny", not yet aware of the HAT song. when the album came out i was very surprised and pleased that the melvins were giving us a preview and we had no idea. (maybe they didn't either))
you know the beat, right?
DUH dum dum DUH dum dum DUDalum DUH dum dum Duh dum dum DUDalum DUH dum dumm DUDalum DUH.....
pause
DUDle UDle Udle DUDle Udle Udle DUDleDUDle DUDle Udle Udle Duh.
you know it. right?
i thought that was an amazing way to open a show. anyone else go to these?
there really aren't any videos of these around? i've got audio of em i believe.
sorry for always posting whilst stoneed. it has become a bad habit.
That soundboard recording of the Melvins live in Vienna in 2001 (I think) is a really good recording of this. I used to drive around with the windows down blasting this, just to see the faces of people wondering what the hell that racket was.
Quotei never really thought of it as them hand-picking the fanbase, as much as them just doing what they want and having whatever happen, happen.
i like your way alot better. sometimes it does seem like they are selecting us.
maybe that is just too egocentric?
i mean, i think they do it without realizing it (or maybe they do???). and yes it is egocentrical, haha. but i think it's safe to say a majority of the Melvins fans like them for the right reasons. unfortunately you can't say the same for Nirvana.
indeed
COD isn't al album I listen to a lot, or very much at all. But, after this thread, I did put it on last weekend when I was painting and I really liked it. I guess you have to be in the right mood.
Of course, then I had to play Throbbing Gristle's Heathen Earth.
WHo would dare release a record such as C.O.D.? And who would, in their right mind, package it so wonderfully. T.V., Artichoke, T.V. Artichoke, T.V., Artichoke...........that costs dough, and they spent it, packed it up nice, shipped it, we bought it. I listen to it a few times every couple of months, and I smile knowing that most people hate it........thats what they want. The Melvins, challenge the boldest of listeners. Listen to it again.......and ask yourself.........are you?
i'm just waiting for one of my neighbors to complain when i have it on, hahahaha.
Quote from: EponymousCOD isn't al album I listen to a lot, or very much at all. But, after this thread, I did put it on last weekend when I was painting and I really liked it.
i listen to it when i paint also
The Melvins did a show at the EMP in Seattle with the sheet metal.
The next time I saw them was at the Showbox and they shortened COD to nine minutes. The old message board had loads of discussions on this stuff. I just can't remember anymore.
i know this album has been brought up before. i finally gave it another chance recently and it's really grown on me. if freelance jazz went grunge...that's C.O.D.
Yeah, since it is very experimental I think a lot of people don't dig it. But remember, it is a live performance, and they really pull off some cool stuff. The album ends with a monstrous version of "Eyes Flys" that is worth the price alone. Do not ignore this album.
I agree. COD is an interesting improv album. I think you have to have a liking for noisey type soundscapes to appreciate it.
Your not a melvins fan if you dont like this album.
I just remembered, in a recent interview, I think their last with Kevin, Buzzo said that this was his favorite album out of anything they had done.
QuoteYour not a melvins fan if you dont like this album.
I don't necessarily agree with this. I consider myself a huge fan and have everything that they have released and some albums of theirs I like more than others, but I just really thought this one was shit.
I think it was successful in that it displays that side of the Melvins live performance, which I have endured a few times in person, but it just happens to be a side of the Melvins that I find annoying.
I hear ya'. I just like to represent hardcore sometimes...
Quote from: bassist #15I just remembered, in a recent interview, I think their last with Kevin, Buzzo said that this was his favorite album out of anything they had done.
ONE of his favourites.
Quote from: BlueBobYour not a melvins fan if you dont like this album.
I haven't even heard it :(
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i don't know. for alot of the Melvins fans who don't like their experimental or noise approaches it just like "you're missing out on half of the band!" but i wouldn't call them more or less of a fan. i respect it because they're not following them blindy.
but yeah, C.O.D. is why i love the Melvins. i can put an album on, and not understand it at first. and then give it another chance and somehow it all makes sense. they really do make music for themselves and forget about the accessability of it.
Quote from: Shanghai SatelliteI just remembered, in a recent interview, I think their last with Kevin, Buzzo said that this was his favorite album out of anything they had done.
I am a true Melvins fan, but I don't necessarily believe everything Buzz thinks of doing is complete genius. Who wants to buy my copy?
I agree. I didn't care for COD or Crybaby much, but the majority of the melvins albums are great IMO
Quote from: LeroyI agree. I didn't care for COD or Crybaby much, but the majority of the melvins albums are great IMO
How can you not like the Crybaby if you like their other albums? The only new thing is the country songs and those are awesome anyway.
I can see how the Crybay is different than other Melvins releases. It just feels different. There is no cohesiveness and so it doesn't really fit into a mood or ever gain any kind of momentum. Songs go from country to some crazy Patton shit and then there's a slow prog song and then some fast metal. It's just all over the place and not in a good way.
I think the Crybaby sucks overall, but it has it's moments.
They didn't write everything on the Crybaby, and Buzz doesn't sing on it. 2 clear reasons why someone wouldn't like the album as much.
Personally, it's my least favourite.
Crybaby is my least favorite too.
Quote from: the bloatI can see how the Crybay is different than other Melvins releases. It just feels different. There is no cohesiveness and so it doesn't really fit into a mood or ever gain any kind of momentum. Songs go from country to some crazy Patton shit and then there's a slow prog song and then some fast metal. It's just all over the place and not in a good way.
I think the Crybaby sucks overall, but it has it's moments.
that's the reason why i dont listen to the crybaby much. yes the country songs are pretty good, and like you said it has its moments but as a whole, the album leaves much to be desired
Divorced, the Bliss Blood song, and the Foetus song are all awesome. The rest can take a hike. Which is too bad, I had really looked forward to the David Yow stuff.
As far as I'm concerned the Dale penned "Divorce" is the reason to listen to the album. The rest is just filler. Good Melvin-ny filler. But filler nonetheless.
what is what, depends on taste (and lack of it).
i think this album is pretty valid. not my favorite. but yeah, "Divorced" is one of my all-time favorite songs. the Hank Williams III, Skeleton Key, Bliss Blood and Mike Patton songs are good. the Nirvana cover, well, i can take it or leave it. it's alright. i think the album is pretty damn good. i love that sample, "fuck sobriety..." fucking hilarious. the Foetus song sucks in my opinion.
i know i asked this before, but i couldn't find what topic i posted it in. doesn't the Foetus song sound a lot like "Prig"?
I don't think the Foetus one sounds like Prig at all. Prig is happy and upbeat and Mine Is No Disgrace is slow and not upbeat at all.
Personally I love the Crybaby. All the guest vocalists did great, well, except Leif, but the Melvins didn't expect him to be great, it was just something funny to them. I've been listening to it a lot, one of my favourites.
the drumbeat sounds almost identical.
I must say, that I only listend to cod 2 times.
But I will give it another chance, so I put it in my cd-player and listen to it NOW!
I can't imagine, that it will be my favorite melvins album, but I respect the melvins for releasing such a weird record. These guys have guts!
As I listend to it for the first time, I wasn't sure if this were really the Melvins. Thought there was a wrong CD in the case
COD is a kind of a "put a melvins fan to the test, if they're really love the unconventionally about the melvins". Either you love it, or you hate it.
But a few questions came over me as I listend to this album:
Did someone see the show, or a similar? How many people left the show after 30min? Was the show supposed to be a "normal Melvins show" (whatsoever this means).
I really had loved to see the faces of the audience, who was waiting for a "normal melvins song" :D
and to be on/off topic(??)
crybaby is ok. a few songs kicks ass and a few songs are...well they're ok.
I listen to GI Joe the most. The sounds are so fkcunig awsome...
Quote from: Fantomastro
Did someone see the show, or a similar? How many people left the show after 30min? Was the show supposed to be a "normal Melvins show" (whatsoever this means).
I really had loved to see the faces of the audience, who was waiting for a "normal melvins song" :D
I think somewhere on this site it mentions they did a full "Melvins" set after COD.
Ah.
"i was there. it was about an hour and then it turned into eye flys. it was so loud most people were holding their ears. my friends were lying on the floor in agony, only to be revived by an AMAZING second set. Dale was playing his set with the Ozma covers on the bass drum. anyway, it had Adam from Tool, it was just tons of noise, Dale had a guitar and a keyboard I think, Kevin had his back to us the whole time, I don't remember what Buzz was doing. it was basically just the loudest thing ever, pure noise. I can't imagine what it will sound like on CD, and if you'd ever want to listen to it more than once. I'll buy it of course. first time I saw them with Adam. I didn't know who he was and yelled and pointed "Who is that guy?" right before the 2nd night's set started and Buzz said "I don't know, I thought maybe you did." then the noise started."
They performed COD under the name "Noiseland Arcade", which is from the Simpsons of course. Let's hope Noiseland Arcade releases more stuff.
I listened to COD again. It's better this time around. They should release "COD 2" which is the second half of their set.
Or any type of live album from shows within the last couple years, which would have their newer material. Not that their old stuff is bad by any means, but there are already 4 official live releases from shows in the 90's (Fuckers Club, Your Choice, COD, Salad). It would be nice for a pro-sounding new live cd.
don't forget millennium monsterwork...sorta fits, no?
yeah i guess you're right. but it would still be nice to have an even newer official live cd or dvd that's longer too. the melvins are a really tight band live so the more the merrier.
Quote from: Leroyyeah i guess you're right. but it would still be nice to have an even newer official live cd or dvd that's longer too. the melvins are a really tight band live so the more the merrier.
there are so many unofficial concerts around, with, in some cases, better sound and vision than on soatd. so why you want to have an official?
Ok, a newer concert with perfect sound and vision, nice artwork and bonus material would be great :)
Quote from: TGH
I think somewhere on this site it mentions they did a full "Melvins" set after COD.
Ah.
"i was there. it was about an hour and then it turned into eye flys. it was so loud most people were holding their ears. my friends were lying on the floor in agony, only to be revived by an AMAZING second set. Dale was playing his set with the Ozma covers on the bass drum. anyway, it had Adam from Tool, it was just tons of noise, Dale had a guitar and a keyboard I think, Kevin had his back to us the whole time, I don't remember what Buzz was doing. it was basically just the loudest thing ever, pure noise. I can't imagine what it will sound like on CD, and if you'd ever want to listen to it more than once. I'll buy it of course. first time I saw them with Adam. I didn't know who he was and yelled and pointed "Who is that guy?" right before the 2nd night's set started and Buzz said "I don't know, I thought maybe you did." then the noise started."
This must have been a hell of a concert. Yeah, a second part of COD would be fine. Or better, a more controlled noise concert. I don't know...someting like the beginning of the fool, the meddling idiot or goggles...more melodic. You know what I mean?
I'd love to see some more COD related official releases, as I've stated before COD is easily my favorite melvins disc, it coincides with my musical direction in the last 5 years or so.
On a side note, I'm desperately awaiting Acid Mothers Temple (Sept. 23) has anyone caught this tour?
(http://www.acidmothers.com/Cgi-bin/_graphics/index_photo.jpg)
Quote from: FantomastroThis must have been a hell of a concert. Yeah, a second part of COD would be fine. Or better, a more controlled noise concert. I don't know...someting like the beginning of the fool, the meddling idiot or goggles...more melodic. You know what I mean?
I just know I need to build a time machine so I can see COD live.
Quote from: rhett E rockthe drumbeat sounds almost identical.
Oh, I didn't notice the drumbeats, I was just thinking of the melody.
Quote from: ___-----_____------_____I'd love to see some more COD related official releases, as I've stated before COD is easily my favorite melvins disc, it coincides with my musical direction in the last 5 years or so.
On a side note, I'm desperately awaiting Acid Mothers Temple (Sept. 23) has anyone caught this tour?
(http://www.acidmothers.com/Cgi-bin/_graphics/index_photo.jpg)
I'll be seeing them on the 24th in the twin cities, cannot wait. Unfortunately I won't be able to see mono up there, another japanese band I enjoy.
how did they do it?
nausea has never been so nice.
abstract?
I dont think so, there is something there that holds the focus.
but deconstructed it is.
noise jazz?
klump... this subject was inevitable. I'm glad you stepped up to plate and started this off.
when I purchased COLLOSSUS I had no idea it was a "noise" record, so to speak. I knew it was recorded live but I didn't know exactly what it was. so I pop it in and start listening and in the back of my mind I am waiting for it to break into a song. by 3/4 through I realize what exactly is going on here. I start believing there will be no song and what I am hearing is what I am getting. was I surprised? no. was I dissapointed? no. I actually thought it was pretty damn sweet. so then when it "constructed" itself into eye flys and I picked up the bass line the goosebumps started. this thing turns into the NASTIEST version of flys ever recorded. MIND WRENCHING. this album most definetly flows.
how do they do it? mine is not to ask how. mine is simply to purchase and put to use.
but the bottom line is if you don't get MELVINS, you probably won't get this disc.
and I kinda like that. do you really want the masses/general public taking over our MELVINS?
I, for one, do not.
it makes my temples tingle.
not to mention tinkle.
"my nipples are bursting with desire!"
COD is all about the ride. The kind that makes you shed a tear when you finally reach the destination, thus the conclusion of thhe album. There are so many parts that have gotten caught in my head.
I love COD, I'd like another one: COD2
I like it. And I am sure they had fun creating it too. I think the the COD version of Eye Flys is the best version of that song ever performed by them thus far. It rivals the Gluey Porch Treatments studio version.
I think it is a fuckin
It's enjoyable in the same way that Iron Maiden are enjoyable - on a semi-annual basis. Mmm Hm.
"stop fucking me youre giving me a headache!"
I think COD is a very important album in the melvins catalog.
I'm sure we will be seeing plenty more COD/noise/Anti - Vermin Seed type stuff from melvins in the future. They constantly kill with their Ipecac releases.
COD rules. I never understood why so many people don't seem to "get" it.
Prick, too.
its not really driving music though, well depends on how you drive i guess...but ya
Quote from: glen on October 14, 2005, 07:00:02 AM
but the bottom line is if you don't get MELVINS, you probably won't get this disc.
and I kinda like that. do you really want the masses/general public taking over our MELVINS?
I, for one, do not.
I don't think it's up to anyone to decide whether someone gets the Melvins or not. But I think everyone should give it a try at least.
I just listened to it and I sure dig it, also I agree with you that version of Eye Flys slays.
I'm listening to it right now, actually. I've always wondered if they planned any of the "song", or they just ad libbed the whole thing.
stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache stop fucking me you're giving me a headache
Actually I think it's "stop fucking WITH me", :lol:
Or it might be "stop talking to me".
its a porn sample that was in the memory of adam's virus keys/mixer
and its clearly 'stop fucking me you're giving me a headache',
as in the girl's head is hitting the head board of the bed in the clip
cool man. What exactly is that device called that adam is using?
brother if i knew the make and model i'd tell ya, but variously its been
put forth before as Virus, the Virus, VRS, etc etc, there is a VRS
synth module that simulates various environments in an audio
fashion, its a sound displacer that mimics big coliseums and
large orchestra pits etc, but in a noise / rock-oriented idiom as
far as the signals and sounds that Adam is actually using / playing /
simultaneously recording, triggering and mixing is purely a guess.
Lots of synth heads really love those Viruses.
I love a good synth as much as good head :o
this and Pigs of the Roman Empire are two albums that caught me totally off guard.
great huh?
people of this day and age are really scared to be in the "vulnerable" situation of not knowing.
:lol:
Eye Flys is on this? and I quit listening after 5 mins - sounds like I have about 50 mins left to check out. this coming from a guy who thought the" Prick" album was bloody brilliant.
ya man! but you can't skip to Track 2 to hear it because it scoots you right back to the beginning!
Quote from: anaconda on October 18, 2005, 02:56:44 PM
ya man! but you can't skip to Track 2 to hear it because it scoots you right back to the beginning!
On that note, Lysol being one track sucks - I tell friends its the best Melvins album, but they get impatient with no Buzz until 10 mins into it.
Quote from: Hank Hill on October 18, 2005, 03:30:16 PMOn that note, Lysol being one track sucks - I tell friends its the best Melvins album, but they get impatient with no Buzz until 10 mins into it.
I disagree. Sure, it's nice to have With Teeth or the other songs as one single track but this way the listener is being 'forced' to listen to the album in its entity - which is the way it should be listened. My friends won't dig it either but that's just too bad for them, fuck 'em.
Quote from: norecess on October 19, 2005, 09:43:04 AM
Quote from: Hank Hill on October 18, 2005, 03:30:16 PMOn that note, Lysol being one track sucks - I tell friends its the best Melvins album, but they get impatient with no Buzz until 10 mins into it.
I disagree. Sure, it's nice to have With Teeth or the other songs as one single track but this way the listener is being 'forced' to listen to the album in its entity - which is the way it should be listened. My friends won't dig it either but that's just too bad for them, fuck 'em.
yeah!, fuck em! :lol:
"fuck `em" <-- a melvins t shirt slogan? :lol:
this close enough?:
(http://www.themelvins.net/pics/shirts/images/signlang_jpg.jpg)
"fuck you"
there are a ton of awesome shirts in that archive. i didn't know alot of them existed and now i want them all!
way to go brian. you never fail to please the melvins-freak
Quote from: Vcavallo on October 19, 2005, 08:27:50 PM
there are a ton of awesome shirts in that archive. i didn't know alot of them existed and now i want them all!
way to go brian. you never fail to please the melvins-freak
True.
I have this one as a t-shirt that I bought for less than one dollar at a thrift store in SF.
(http://www.themelvins.net/pics/shirts/images/koziknunb_jpg.jpg)
that's awesome!
Quote from: Eponymous on October 19, 2005, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: Vcavallo on October 19, 2005, 08:27:50 PM
there are a ton of awesome shirts in that archive. i didn't know alot of them existed and now i want them all!
way to go brian. you never fail to please the melvins-freak
True.
I have this one as a t-shirt that I bought for less than one dollar at a thrift store in SF.
(http://www.themelvins.net/pics/shirts/images/koziknunb_jpg.jpg)
i've got the same t-shirt
i bought it in 1996
i feel quite aged
...
*plays a funeral march on his toy piano*
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q33/ShabbataiTsvi/509750.jpg)
(http://emvergeoning.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/colossus-of-roads.jpg)
Colossus Of Roads
i love noise. i really enjoy this album, especially the second track.
Quote from: Joe Deutrom on October 14, 2005, 10:57:13 AM
I think the the COD version of Eye Flys is the best version of that song ever performed by them thus far. It rivals the Gluey Porch Treatments studio version.
I second that.
I just picked up this recording yesterday. Being a man who enjoys many musical genres I can honestly say I enjoyed it, though I was a bit disappointed that it sounded nothing like what I was expecting to hear... but then I suppose a melvins fan shouldn't have any concrete expectations on whats coming next. Thats my 2 cents.
*edit* I noticed a lot of folks have been paying way too much for this so I wanted to add that I found it at a used music store for 7 bucks! Muahahahahaha! Sorry guys, had to rub it in.
you enjoyed it? whats that supposed to mean? do you live in kazakstahn or something?
Quote from: Uncle Fester on September 21, 2008, 01:32:30 PM
you enjoyed it? whats that supposed to mean? do you live in kazakstahn or something?
enjoyed
1 dictionary results for: enjoyed
v. en
thats a terrible defintion of enjoy, college boy.
my definition: to casually spray semen stored in a bottle at random people on the sidewalk.
Quote from: Ymmuipo on August 17, 2008, 03:05:45 PM
*edit* I noticed a lot of folks have been paying way too much for this so I wanted to add that I found it at a used music store for 7 bucks! Muahahahahaha! Sorry guys, had to rub it in.
it was only $10 on this last tour, Brian Walsby talked me into getting mangled demos instead though
I haven't heard this yet, but it's just spacey noise and shit for an hour from what I've heard, made onstage? So were the Melvins kind of stood there like Moss is when he plays in Porn? Like a grunge Kraftwerk? I can't imagine the set-up at all.
dale, kevin and buzz improvised noise while adam jones manipulated them live thru a virus synth mixer/module
Quote from: anaconda on October 09, 2008, 09:19:23 AM
dale, kevin and buzz improvised noise while adam jones manipulated them live thru a virus synth mixer/module
Cool, so he kind of had control of all the noise that was generated?
you could say that. yes.
Quote from: anaconda on October 09, 2008, 07:14:33 PM
you could say that. yes.
I'd find that so weird, to be playing and having someone else mess around with all the noise I'm making live. I'll have to pick it up - my Melvins collection is
criminally lacking copies of both The Bootlicker and Colossus of Destiny.
i'm not the authority but COD's got a bad history with me.
Quote from: anaconda on October 09, 2008, 09:08:37 PM
i'm not the authority but COD's got a bad history with me.
Why's that man? Not to your tastes?
... Get your penis stuck in the middle of it? Because that happens to everyone sooner or later. I got my junk caught in a Phil Colins casette back in the day. The ridges, oh, the ridges! To think I'd waited for that moment, for all my life.
hahahahahha fuck no! I've bought it a couple times and sold it a few as well.
i just get riled up that you can't fast forward to track 2 without getting bounced
back to the beginning.
p.s. hold back on the penis comments. the climax will be better. bada boom bada bing! :?
Quote from: Eye in Triangle on October 09, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
...I got my junk caught in a Phil Colins casette back in the day. The ridges, oh, the ridges! To think I'd waited for that moment, for all my life.
Hilarious!
All of this is highly illegally on youtube for some reason. Still sounds great:
Start at the start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5YhKrjgOI
I loved this album from the very first time I heard it. It is cool to find out the role that Adam Jones played in the making of this. I had no idea he was almost "controlling" the sounds Buzzo, Dale and Kevin were making. Is there a video of this performance in its entirety? I saw it in 6 different parts on Youtube but want it uncut
Found this used for 9$ today.
i just want to bump this ancient thread to show my admiration for COD ... i LOVE this album.
then again, i bought it years ago specifically because everyone said they hated it, and "it's just noise" ... naturally i needed to hear it.
the noise is perfect. not too harsh (though harsh would be fine by me) and it's extremely well controlled. it has room to move and breathe. they use silence and quieter parts to make everything flow perfectly.
and the performance of "eye flys" is probably the most brutal version i've ever heard.
i wish, so much, that they'd do another record like this.
also, i'm looking for video of the show. i already inquired in the live music section, to no avail. but i'm hoping SOMEONE has a copy SOMEWHERE....
I'd love a video of this. I really want to see how it was performed. It's the album I listen to least but I know I would enjoy it visually far more.
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/justify-your-shitty-taste-melvins-the-colossus-of-destiny/ (http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/justify-your-shitty-taste-melvins-the-colossus-of-destiny/)
The Endless Residency CD 2011 version with Jared and Cody fuckin' kills beyond belief.
You'll hear it someday and go.. oh shit...now I get it.
Bought the CD the day it came out. It was spring and I was on my way home in my car listening to this. I was confused because Colossus of Destiny to me was somehow- maybe even on this site, but somewhere online the drum thing that ended up being on HAT at the end of Black Stooges I think or one of the songs there, yeah, Black Stooges, wasn't that 'Colossus of Destiny' from show set lists back then? so I thought I was gonna hear some crazy tribal pounding drums but instead, at first I thought it 'could have been better' which now I think about it is so funny. But i also get it as an AmRep or Ipecac, I feel, made the art and experimental stuff feel normal, at home, on a Melvins album as opposed to a major where it seemed bolder and edgy. Here it was like more an in-thing as well as an in-joke? To me now Colossus of Destiny could not be any better. Especially now for me since Eye Flys opened up the Lit Lounge show so everytime I wait for the payoff and hear the end of COD I can think of the dungeon that is (was) lit that night.
love
This is a true Melvins album. By that I mean, not for everyone, but this is what we (Melvins) want to do. I think they were doing their version of Heathen Earth by Throbbing Gristle. It seams to be approached in much the same way they did that, and I know Buzz is a fan of that record. Their cover of Trackfive on the In Formation tribute album to T.G. is a cover of track 5 from that album (the original doesn't list track names, though most people refer to it as Dreammachine). If you do like COD, give Heathen Earth a go. It took me years to appreciate T.G. in general.
Would also love to see video of this also, but T.G. did that (Recording Heathen Earth), so maybe thats why it doesnt exist.
I miss the porno track samples. And the swoops, bloops, and beeps.
I know it's been posted ad nauseum, but here's the remix I made of this phenomenal fuxing album, with prominent attention paid to Eye Flys. Engineered for 5.1.
A Colossal Remix
http://snivlem.bandcamp.com/ (http://snivlem.bandcamp.com/)
I never found out if the band heard Chicken Swatch, our crazy attempt at a Chicken Switch album. I demand a public admonishment.
Never could really get down with COD until I got the Endless Residency set, the live version they do on there is pretty cool.
Quote from: I am the Sun on May 11, 2011, 07:42:15 PM
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/justify-your-shitty-taste-melvins-the-colossus-of-destiny/ (http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/justify-your-shitty-taste-melvins-the-colossus-of-destiny/)
this is always a great read. Love his foreplay/fucking interpretation as well.
This is still growing on me, but slowly. I remember hearing this in the store... thinking it was supposed to be a new Melvins album, putting on the headphones with the electrical tape all around the mangled cord connection.
I bought something else that day instead.
I am not a big fan of improv albums. To see a live improv set might be one thing. But recordings of them are not generally enjoyable.
This however seems to be something more. I like to think of it as an hour long intro to Eye Flys. It feels like it is not "rehearsed" but that there is an established language between all the musicians. I think hearing the live version on Sugar Daddy it seems clear that this song's intro is the eternal playspace in the set list. Capturing an extended version on tape and releasing it as its own record is kind of a brilliant idea.
The result can still be aggravating or nauseating or annoying on occasion. Other times I listen or have it on in the background and really dig it.
I've always been intrigued by this album. Especially more so that surprisingly Buzz rates it so highly. I think it is one that has grown hugely in my admiration over the years (as a concept) but still one that doesn't quite sit so well with me in terms of the listening. Put it this way, i don't reach for it in my collection very much. I know we hear Buzz say "thank-you for coming" and some cheers at the beginning but i always feel that maybe this wasn't a live recording at all. Rather some kind of joke by the band.
One thing i really like about this release though, is that the song played is, in a way, the very first Melvins song 'Eye Flys' off their first record. This makes me think of COD as some kind of comment on the music scene being chaotic and of little value before the Melvins appeared. Or alternatively a sort of audio equivalent of the Melvins coming into being. The final pay off of which on this album is huge! I still wish this had been the final installment in the trilogy as originally intended.
http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=699.msg13195#msg13195 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=699.msg13195#msg13195)
thanks to aeustin for this one. from an old west history group on fb. =D>
(https://i.postimg.cc/gj9CsQGC/COD-original-2-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrRZL7rg)
Had a another COD listen last night. Every time i go back to this record i think i like and appreciate it more and more!! I never thought i would say that. It's a GOOD record! I'm glad it exists. I guess like any "difficult" album, it reveals itself more over time. I might listen to it again tonight! I am amazed how much sexual stuff or perhaps porn samples are in this thing. It feels like it is pretty much throughout. Sometimes obvious, sometimes stretched and made to sound like something else. I still wish this had been the 3rd release of the Trilogy instead of The Crybaby. I'm tempted to say this is a 9/10 record!!! When i first heard it i would have probably rated it a 2/10!!!
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 07, 2022, 09:20:35 AM
Had a another COD listen last night. Every time i go back to this record i think i like and appreciate it more and more!! I never thought i would say that. It's a GOOD record! I'm glad it exists. I guess like any "difficult" album, it reveals itself more over time. I might listen to it again tonight! I am amazed how much sexual stuff or perhaps porn samples are in this thing. It feels like it is pretty much throughout. Sometimes obvious, sometimes stretched and made to sound like something else. I still wish this had been the 3rd release of the Trilogy instead of The Crybaby. I'm tempted to say this is a 9/10 record!!! When i first heard it i would have probably rated it a 2/10!!!
:shock:
That chromatic descending guitar sample... Guess it could be any cassette recording of someone noodling on a guitar in their bedroom. But to me it sounds so much like a Kurt Cobain home demo.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on October 07, 2022, 10:43:16 AM
That chromatic descending guitar sample... Guess it could be any cassette recording of someone noodling on a guitar in their bedroom. But to me it sounds so much like a Kurt Cobain home demo.
The bit right at the beginning? Yeah i could see Kurt playing around with something like that.
Currently breaking out COD on the headphones yet again! I like this one because you can just drift off and not really focus on it too much until the end starts building into Eye Flys. That's what is most appealing to me. If it was just noise all throughout i don't think i would appreciate it anywhere near as much.
I REALLY wish there was some footage or photos that existed from this show. I'm always curious to see how the line-up was arranged. To see what gear they had on stage. Dale on stuff other than drums! Has Buzz or Dale ever spoken about what they planned with COD? Did they go into the show fully wishing to put this out as an album?
Yeah I'm also curious how it was recorded. Did they multitrack it? Are there any mistakes that were edited out? Or is it just like a straight soundboard two channel mixdown?
@snivlemdotcom, any idea how this was recorded? In studio, etc.?