I'm not very familiar with Redd Kross. What should we expect?
Does he have the same gear all the time? I'm watching the live on KEXP video right now and see a sunburst Fender P-Bass and an Ampeg stack.
Are his on the road antics as legendary as Pinkus, Trevor and Jared?
How much ass will that War Pussy 10" kick?
Will the band cover a Redd Kross song or two, like they covered Butthole Surfers songs with Pinkus?
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee392/robotsindetroit/Screen%20Shot%202015-12-02%20at%209.16.42%20PM_zpsgizomgkd.png) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/robotsindetroit/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-12-02%20at%209.16.42%20PM_zpsgizomgkd.png.html)
http://youtu.be/WwgW73jxBMs
Welcome to the gang, New guy. :disagree: :buzz: :twisted: :mrgreen:
I'm guessing they'll cover Linda Blair.
http://www.discogs.com/Melvins-Redd-Kross-New-Years-Eve-Ball-Room-Blitz/release/4148403
Steven also plays in OFF! so might get a lot more of the punkier songs in the set, but he's a great player so he can easily handle anything from their back catalogue.
Yeah, for a tour with Napalm Death maybe the set will be on the faster and (even) heavier side.
OR maybe they'll pull one of their wacky Melvins screw with the crowd's minds thingys and come out and just play The Bootlicker in it's entirety....
How about Melvins with Steve Howe :D
Steven is one of the most energetic, glad to be here, Bass players I've ever seen!
I just :love: the energy he brings to the stage.
Guys, guys, guys...
What if there was a Melvins/OFF! Tour...
WHAT IF they played some songs on stage TOGETHER...?!
WHAT IF THEY RECORDED ROGETHER?!!!!!!!
Are the Melvins headlining this tour? I hope so. The last time I saw them where they didn't headline was Boston with Down. I hated Down. And I hated the Melvins not headlining. The only reason down headlined is cuz of Phil ass-elmo. Maybe he's a good guy but he seems like a douche. I don't think they headlined the geek show with Dalek and tomahawk either but at least that was worth waiting around for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ruoDiBR5Hk
Steve meets God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb64IzE8Ewg
Not much of a fighter. One backhanded bitch slap and he's out.
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Are the Melvins headlining this tour?
Negatory. :?
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
I hope so.
I did too.
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
I don't think they headlined the geek show with Dalek and tomahawk either but at least that was worth waiting around for.
Last time I saw them open was at the place they're playing this time and I thought it was the worst Melvins show I ever saw, sound wise. They were opening for Tomahawk, who are one of my favorites, and I didn't even think they were that good, compared to their first tour. I hope this show doesn't completely suck (meaning non-melvins forces overwhelming the situation), to be honest. :(
I am so fucking stoked for this. Redd Kross and Melvins are my two favorite bands in the world. Steven McDonald is one of the greatest living bass players today. Not only does he play in Redd Kross and OFF! but has also played with Beck, Sparks, Anarchy 6 and Tator Totz.
I am hoping they play a couple of Redd Kross tunes - Dale is a huge fan of Redd Kross. I am hoping for Linda Blair and Kill Someone You Hate.
And for those not down with the Kross just yet - get with it!
And THANK GOD Melvins are not headlining the tour! I am hitting all of the west coast shows and it will be nice to leave after the Melvins set. I will be sure to catch Napalm Death at least a couple of times. But this will allow me to get more sleep! WOOOOO HOOOOOO!
:lol:
i guess it will be cool to leave earlier but this means the Melvins probably won't play as long. So what goes into determining the headlining band? Album sales? Seniority? Melvins have been around longer I would think. It can't be credibility cuz the Melvins have more cred than anyone and probably influenced napalm death. Are the Melvins just not concerned with the pissing contest involved in who's going to headline? I don't see them getting caught up in the bs. But damn. Who the hell would want to follow the Melvins. Kinda like the story of weezer following iggy pop. (In my opinion anyway, I've never been a huge napalm death fan)
Weezer actually played before Iggy. He was on the side of the stage watching in disbelief, then pulled the mic drop in his set after the enthusiastic response to his question about "did you enjoy Weezer?". :nerd:
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 04, 2015, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: meezer on December 04, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 04, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Bengerman on December 04, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
It can't be credibility cuz the Melvins have more cred than anyone
Do they??
Do you?
Maybe. Who knows! Any perceived "cred" is probably held by a mere fraction of the number of people who know me. Same goes for Melvins or any band really.
You know who has too much cred for their accomplishments? Earth. No rings.
I was wondering if Napalm Death may be headlining because they would get a little more $$$ and have the extra travel expense of that jump across the pond. I wonder who will draw more people Melvins or ND?
I mean they've been around for over 30 years and have never taken a "hiatus" from touring or recording. They've never broken up. They have the best work ethic of any band I can think of. They have influenced several overground bands as well as countless underground bands all spanning different genres. I would say that, amongst other things, gives them credibility. What is credibility to you? How many bands say they were influenced by napalm death other than a bunch of bands that u can't even read the name on the album cover?
Quote from: meezer on December 04, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 04, 2015, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: meezer on December 04, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 04, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Bengerman on December 04, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
It can't be credibility cuz the Melvins have more cred than anyone
Do they??
Do you?
Maybe. Who knows! Any perceived "cred" is probably held by a mere fraction of the number of people who know me. Same goes for Melvins or any band really.
You know who has too much cred for their accomplishments? Earth. No rings.
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I think they are calling this a co-headline tour; which could mean variations of whose-on-first. They could switch up the line-up throughout the tour (alternate) or even make some super-lineup like the Fantomas things. But seeing that some larger venues are on the map (Sunshine Theater ABQ instead of the usual Launchpad gig), I bet the standard set is Melvin's opening up for Napalm Death with perhaps a guest appearance mash-up closer. Just a hunch.
It would seem to me that the Melvins are reaching out to a more traditional metal audience on this round, teaming with a heavy hitter like Napalm Death to get more exposure in the jeans-and-leather back patch metal scene. Good business at the least. Smart move, despite bumming out a few aging hipsters in ever-tightening two-headed puppy t-shirts.
Should be a great show, even if you aren't a huge Napalm fan. Just drink more. It works every time.
Maybe we'll get a Melvins t-shirt in heavy metal font, full of battle axes and blood splatter that can't really be read anyways.
Seeya in Burque....
I saw Behemoth and Cannibal Corpse co-headlining tour earlier this year. They alternated headline slots. Alternating headline slots is my guess. Either way, this'll be fucking amazing.
Quote from: The Fly on December 04, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
I think they are calling this a co-headline tour; which could mean variations of whose-on-first. They could switch up the line-up throughout the tour (alternate) or even make some super-lineup like the Fantomas things. But seeing that some larger venues are on the map (Sunshine Theater ABQ instead of the usual Launchpad gig), I bet the standard set is Melvin's opening up for Napalm Death with perhaps a guest appearance mash-up closer. Just a hunch.
:-k
Quote from: The Fly on December 04, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Smart move, despite bumming out a few aging hipsters in ever-tightening two-headed puppy t-shirts.
:anonymous:
Quote from: The Fly on December 04, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Should be a great show, even if you aren't a huge Napalm fan. Just drink more. It works every time.
Maybe we'll get a Melvins t-shirt in heavy metal font, full of battle axes and blood splatter that can't really be read anyways.
Seeya in Burque....
The ABQ? :-s
Alright, kids. There's a dedicated thread for this topic.
http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=20859.msg566217#msg566217 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=20859.msg566217#msg566217)
Now back to little blind* Stevie Mac
*not actually blind. :D
Technically ND have been around longer and while you'd think Melvins being on a major for a while would put them ahead in sales, ND were on Columbia for one album around the same time and I've heard from credible sources that some of their classics have sold over a million worldwide cumulatively. ND have never broken up or gone on any lengthy hiatus.
I'm not trying to argue, I think both bands are up there in the credibility and influence department. I'm beyond excited that I get to see two of my all time favorites share the stage and I'm tempted to do a little traveling with this tour. Would be awesome if they rotate slots each night but I'll take it any way they give it.
Imagine this set. Melt Banana comes on in whatever form they've taken now (two piece I think?) And gets you all riled up. Really go apeshit bringing it hard because they know they're a fine band but have to contend with two musical titans and that's gonna put them on offense from note one.
Then Melvins come out with a set of either hideously crushing Maggot era drop c fuck you that shakes the shit from your already heavily damaged bowels or just play a forty minute version of Tipping the Lion and then do the intro to Eye Flys for another 50, you dunno what's gonna happen. I will bet money on the former, but you can't trust em really.
Then Napalm Death comes out and takes a belt sander to your taint and that's about all I expect from them, so excited to see these three bands in one night, fuck.
Quote from: DC on December 04, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
Imagine this set. Melt Banana comes on in whatever form they've taken now (two piece I think?) And gets you all riled up. Really go apeshit bringing it hard because they know they're a fine band but have to contend with two musical titans and that's gonna put them on offense from note one.
Then Melvins come out with a set of either hideously crushing Maggot era drop c fuck you that shakes the shit from your already heavily damaged bowels or just play a forty minute version of Tipping the Lion and then do the intro to Eye Flys for another 50, you dunno what's gonna happen. I will bet money on the former, but you can't trust em really.
Then Napalm Death comes out and takes a belt sander to your taint and that's about all I expect from them, so excited to see these three bands in one night, fuck.
Seems like ND have put together a "bands we love wishlist" instead of "bands we like and make sense genre-wise" tour.
I hope touring with ND brings out the more brutal side of the melvins and that momentum goes all the way to the studio. Also I am very interested to see another outsider bassist brought into the world of melvins. What is SM's take on Night Goat? How does his energy with the more upbeat RK and OF¡ translate to the potential heaviness of melvins? More excited about SM than Pinkus.
Quote from: Bengerman on December 04, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
Melvins have been around longer I would think. It can't be credibility cuz the Melvins have more cred than anyone and probably influenced napalm death.
Pssst
"Napalm Death were formed in the village of Meriden near Coventry, in the United Kingdom, in May
1981"
Quote from: immoraliste on December 04, 2015, 12:19:35 PM
I saw Behemoth and Cannibal Corpse co-headlining tour earlier this year. They alternated headline slots. Alternating headline slots is my guess. Either way, this'll be fucking amazing.
Yeah, I saw NIN and QOTSA last year, they flipped a coin to take turns on who opened. Lucky I got NIN over and done with first off. :lol:
a long haired bassist is always welcome! =D>
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Quote from: Bongerman on August 10, 2015, 05:42:36 PM
Melvins have been around longer I would think. It can't be credibility cuz the Melvins have more cred than anyone and probably influenced napalm death.
Pssst
"Napalm Death were formed in the village of Meriden near Coventry, in the United Kingdom, in May 1981"
psst
"Napalm Death are a British-American extreme metal band formed in Meriden, West Midlands, England, in 1981. While
none of its original members remain in the group..."
"Current members
Shane Embury – bass (
1987–present)
Mark "Barney" Greenway – vocals (1989–1996, 1997–present)
Mitch Harris – guitar, backing vocals (1990–present)
Danny Herrera – drums (1991–present)"
Fan of the McDonald bros since 'Annette's Got the Hits', so psyched for this show! \:D/
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Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Are the Melvins headlining this tour? I hope so. The last time I saw them where they didn't headline was Boston with Down. I hated Down. And I hated the Melvins not headlining. The only reason down headlined is cuz of Phil ass-elmo. Maybe he's a good guy but he seems like a douche.
Total douche! I mean just listen to what Bower and Anselmo say about the Melvins. No respect.
https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s (https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s)
Quote from: Tony Pepperoni on December 28, 2015, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Are the Melvins headlining this tour? I hope so. The last time I saw them where they didn't headline was Boston with Down. I hated Down. And I hated the Melvins not headlining. The only reason down headlined is cuz of Phil ass-elmo. Maybe he's a good guy but he seems like a douche.
Total douche! I mean just listen to what Bower and Anselmo say about the Melvins. No respect.
https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s (https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s)
LOL, what? He says the Melvins opened the door for everybody.
Quote from: Stonergrunge on December 28, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Pepperoni on December 28, 2015, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Are the Melvins headlining this tour? I hope so. The last time I saw them where they didn't headline was Boston with Down. I hated Down. And I hated the Melvins not headlining. The only reason down headlined is cuz of Phil ass-elmo. Maybe he's a good guy but he seems like a douche.
Total douche! I mean just listen to what Bower and Anselmo say about the Melvins. No respect.
https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s (https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s)
LOL, what? He says the Melvins opened the door for everybody.
sarcasm
Anselmo was blasting Melvins back in '91 in the Pantera tour van.
Quote from: GiveMe45 on December 04, 2015, 03:29:13 PM
Technically ND have been around longer and while you'd think Melvins being on a major for a while would put them ahead in sales, ND were on Columbia for one album around the same time and I've heard from credible sources that some of their classics have sold over a million worldwide cumulatively. ND have never broken up or gone on any lengthy hiatus.
I'm not trying to argue, I think both bands are up there in the credibility and influence department. I'm beyond excited that I get to see two of my all time favorites share the stage and I'm tempted to do a little traveling with this tour. Would be awesome if they rotate slots each night but I'll take it any way they give it.
I remember reading an interview with someone from ND about a year or two ago saying they were selling more albums now than at any other point in their career which I found very interesting.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hcznnL1MHiM
Quote from: Tony Pepperoni on December 28, 2015, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Are the Melvins headlining this tour? I hope so. The last time I saw them where they didn't headline was Boston with Down. I hated Down. And I hated the Melvins not headlining. The only reason down headlined is cuz of Phil ass-elmo. Maybe he's a good guy but he seems like a douche.
Total douche! I mean just listen to what Bower and Anselmo say about the Melvins. No respect.
https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s (https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s)
Tony, your username is just great
:lol:
Quote from: black stallion on December 31, 2015, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: Tony Pepperoni on December 28, 2015, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: Bengerman on December 03, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Are the Melvins headlining this tour? I hope so. The last time I saw them where they didn't headline was Boston with Down. I hated Down. And I hated the Melvins not headlining. The only reason down headlined is cuz of Phil ass-elmo. Maybe he's a good guy but he seems like a douche.
Total douche! I mean just listen to what Bower and Anselmo say about the Melvins. No respect.
https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s (https://youtu.be/3Ahx6DX7lOI?t=4m5s)
Tony, your username is just great
thank you! it was my nickname in prison
When I saw melvins & Down play together it was great. Bower was yelling at them to play old songs and Buzz was like, "We don't know those songs anymore!" I see him at every melvins show in New Orleans.
Quote from: ZILLA on December 31, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
When I saw melvins & Down play together it was great. Bower was yelling at them to play old songs and Buzz was like, "We don't know those songs anymore!" I see him at every melvins show in New Orleans.
I wish Bower was my uncle. He just seems like the coolest dude ever.
Quote from: Tony Pepperoni on December 31, 2015, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: ZILLA on December 31, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
When I saw melvins & Down play together it was great. Bower was yelling at them to play old songs and Buzz was like, "We don't know those songs anymore!" I see him at every melvins show in New Orleans.
I wish Bower was my uncle. He just seems like the coolest dude ever.
Yes! Long live EHG!
"The Walrus Was Steven"
Thoughts on War Pussy? Anyone? :o
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 29, 2016, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: meezer on January 29, 2016, 10:05:48 AM
Thoughts on War Pussy? Anyone?
My thoughts are as follows....
WHERE THE HELL CAN I HEAR IT?????? Ditto for Beer Hippy too.
I put them on a tape on Monday morning and as soon as I finished, Mike + The Melvins broke, so I put that on there too. Listened to it every morning this week.
War Pussy
Lying - haunting
Hideous Woman - Straight up new Alice In Chains until the vocals come on, then it's a cool song
I Want To Tell You - Great Beatles cover. Has the tempo and all the moving parts of the original, plus an outro that Beatles fans will love
War Pussy - killer song, hard stuff
Competent bass player from Steven. No complaints. Nothing flashy.
Beer Hippy
Beer Hippy - great hard ass song
Shaving Cream - stupid In The Army Now type stuff
Phyllis Dillard - see Beer Hippy
Take Me Out - see Shaving Cream
M + M - love it. Can't wait to hear more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w7yVR27RHA
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That's a sound I don't think I've ever heard before from this band. Pretty upbeat.
Quote from: (the) Razor on March 07, 2016, 10:55:44 PM
That's a sound I don't think I've ever heard before from this band. Pretty upbeat.
i can hear a Mark D vibe on that bass playing (from 08:55....)
I'd be willing to bet that the stench of those silver beauties would knock a buzzard off a gut wagon.
I wonder if that is at all a reference to Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse five, wherein the English pows in the camp put on Cinderalla as a pageant to entertain the new American Prisoners, they had a pair of RAF flight boots painted Silver as the glass slippers, But the main Character ends up with them, One of the officers Commands Billy pilgrim to wear them as part of his embarrassing outfit the Germans gave him with Pride as it was an insult to him.
Maybe the Nazis are like the Melvins in that sense and Steve is like their POW?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9sWZh-f2Iw
Since Ian's link to the silver shoes was taken down.
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Vol4 socks...excellent!
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to be honest, ive only seen a couple videos here and there of steve with the melvins... but for whatever irrational reason, hes already possibly my favorite player theyve had with them. something about him just makes perfect sense to me! hes can do the mark d stuff, hes got the chords that give him that joe preston girth, and his tone is good, and yeah. i dunno. i know there are other players that are really good, and i like them too. but this is the most exciting line up to me now that im seeing some videos. maybe ill change my mind at some point, but man im stoked!
plus im looking into redd kross now, and hes john lennon and geddy lee put together sorta hahaha at least from what ive seen so far. which is almost nothing lol
Quote from: goldennuggetrecordings on March 22, 2016, 01:00:31 PM
to be honest, ive only seen a couple videos here and there of steve with the melvins... but for whatever irrational reason, hes already possibly my favorite player theyve had with them. something about him just makes perfect sense to me! hes can do the mark d stuff, hes got the chords that give him that joe preston girth, and his tone is good, and yeah. i dunno. i know there are other players that are really good, and i like them too. but this is the most exciting line up to me now that im seeing some videos. maybe ill change my mind at some point, but man im stoked!
plus im looking into redd kross now, and hes john lennon and geddy lee put together sorta hahaha at least from what ive seen so far. which is almost nothing lol
Plus he is one of the most charismatic live performers I've seen play bass. You can tell he is loving every minute he is in front of an audience.
yeah! i was getting that vibe too! its i never really think about how that matters, but even just listening without seeing, that energy comes through the music too. its weird. but yeah im really excited about steve! i hope they do a full length lp with him! plus he could do some mean ass lennon covers if they chose to go that route!
like can you imagine a twist and shout cover?
Steven McDonald is a seriously great bass player - like a musician's musician kind of musician. He has played with Redd Kross since he was a little kid, played bass in Sparks, played bass for Beck, plays bass in OFF! and now in Melvins. You are spot on that he has that Mark D feel - as far as bass players go there are three Melvins bass players that are incredibly studied in music. Trevor Dunn, Mark D and Steven McDonald. Lukin, Lorax, Joe, Kevin, Pinkus and Jared are pure rock and rollers. They are all fucking great - but you get something special with those "learned" musicians that you aren't going to get with other players.
I stopped comparing, I like his Bass guitar, that is all I have to say.
Quote from: sadcorps on March 22, 2016, 01:50:17 PM
You are spot on that he has that Mark D feel -
check the bass line on Revolve !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bnSN5PgvZc
dumpster d, its not that i'm trying to compare them or rank and judge them so much as trying to communicate what im hearing in a relative way, which ends up being by comparison to a degree.
i like all the players theyve had, even lukin. but ive personally seen 4 different bass lineups live so far, and im getting the vibe that steves gonna be my favorite. but that doesnt take away from any of the other players at all. its just that steve seems to fit in really really well and bring a sort of fresh energy to the band or something.
Quote from: black stallion on March 22, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 22, 2016, 01:50:17 PM
You are spot on that he has that Mark D feel -
check the bass line on Revolve !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bnSN5PgvZc
This is sickeningly good! But then again when has the Melvins ever had a bad bassist at the helm? I really hope there's a follow up tour in the states beyond the tour with Napalm Death and Melt-Banana.
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on March 22, 2016, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: black stallion on March 22, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 22, 2016, 01:50:17 PM
You are spot on that he has that Mark D feel -
check the bass line on Revolve !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bnSN5PgvZc
This is sickeningly good! But then again when has the Melvins ever had a bad bassist at the helm? I really hope there's a follow up tour in the states beyond the tour with Napalm Death and Melt-Banana.
never had a bad bassist indeed
Quote from: goldennuggetrecordings on March 22, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
dumpster d, its not that i'm trying to compare them or rank and judge them so much as trying to communicate what im hearing in a relative way, which ends up being by comparison to a degree.
i like all the players theyve had, even lukin. but ive personally seen 4 different bass lineups live so far, and im getting the vibe that steves gonna be my favorite. but that doesnt take away from any of the other players at all. its just that steve seems to fit in really really well and bring a sort of fresh energy to the band or something.
I just witnessed two nights in a row of Steven McDonald on bass. The energy, tone and riffage he brings is stellar. Watch out - in my opinion this is the best lineup I have seen live! (the only lineups that I have never seen live are the Buzz/Mike/Lukin and Buzz/Dale/Joe lineups.)
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
I just witnessed two nights in a row of Steven McDonald on bass. The energy, tone and riffage he brings is stellar. Watch out - in my opinion this is the best lineup I have seen live! (the only lineups that I have never seen live are the Buzz/Mike/Lukin and Buzz/Dale/Joe lineups.)
*considers the fact that sadcorps' word carries weight*
Quote from: glen on March 24, 2016, 12:40:55 PM
*considers the fact that sadcorps' word carries weight*
heh
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
I just witnessed two nights in a row of Steven McDonald on bass. The energy, tone and riffage he brings is stellar. Watch out - in my opinion this is the best lineup I have seen live! (the only lineups that I have never seen live are the Buzz/Mike/Lukin and Buzz/Dale/Joe lineups.)
this is the impression ive been getting, but didnt want to jump to conclusions... all i know is i watch every melvins video i can find, ive seen a lot, theyre mostly all in line with eachother, and then i watched the eye flys and suddenly it hit me like BAM this is different in the best way possible!
yeah. im pumped.
Quote from: goldennuggetrecordings on March 24, 2016, 05:13:15 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
I just witnessed two nights in a row of Steven McDonald on bass. The energy, tone and riffage he brings is stellar. Watch out - in my opinion this is the best lineup I have seen live! (the only lineups that I have never seen live are the Buzz/Mike/Lukin and Buzz/Dale/Joe lineups.)
this is the impression ive been getting, but didnt want to jump to conclusions... all i know is i watch every melvins video i can find, ive seen a lot, theyre mostly all in line with eachother, and then i watched the eye flys and suddenly it hit me like BAM this is different in the best way possible!
yeah. im pumped.
I hear you there! Just WAIT until you witness Eye Flys with McDonald on bass - it is taken to a whole new level!!!!!
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: goldennuggetrecordings on March 24, 2016, 05:13:15 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
I just witnessed two nights in a row of Steven McDonald on bass. The energy, tone and riffage he brings is stellar. Watch out - in my opinion this is the best lineup I have seen live! (the only lineups that I have never seen live are the Buzz/Mike/Lukin and Buzz/Dale/Joe lineups.)
this is the impression ive been getting, but didnt want to jump to conclusions... all i know is i watch every melvins video i can find, ive seen a lot, theyre mostly all in line with eachother, and then i watched the eye flys and suddenly it hit me like BAM this is different in the best way possible!
yeah. im pumped.
I hear you there! Just WAIT until you witness Eye Flys with McDonald on bass - it is taken to a whole new level!!!!!
the guy can play bass
From the videos I have seen so far McDonald seems to be one of the best bassists ever.
He´s soooo good and tries out things like his octave hopping in Revolve for example.
I hope they´ll take him to Europe.
Stoked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAfOLm9XvNQ
I duno about that, The Original version is classic.
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 25, 2016, 04:21:16 PM
I know people love this song (much as the band do) but i really dislike it. Always have, although i will say the Melvins version is far better than the Alice Cooper original. IM(idiotic)O of course.
How is the Melvins version better? It is almost exactly the same as the original. And the original is a stellar song!
steve's pedal board with Melvins
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12472779_798609406938388_4427150588367071908_n.jpg?oh=fee9c762693dac233c169d91e0885b02&oe=577878A6)
Is that i-phone Boss or EHX?
https://youtu.be/WvugnxiV6p8
Quote from: meezer on March 26, 2016, 06:48:32 AM
Is that i-phone Boss or EHX?
eheh
according to Melvins soundguy:
QuoteHere's Steve McDonald's of Melvins pedal board, his tone is monstrous and he has many sounds, all of which he conjures up with his fingers and this small board of fun, the special magic ingredient is the rare Alf iPhone app that takes his vibe into Simmons Territory
really bad audio but you can hear Steven's killer bass lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ySevBWfxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zhrW0PEHYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kap-fd_bO2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQDcpNbX5-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z2WGp88tsw
:lol:
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I knew Steven would be good & I was not disappointed. (but like sadcorps I'm a bit biased - being a fan of the McDonald boys since they were Red Cross)
Of all the lineups I've seen, this was one of the funnest sets. Seemed to me they were having a complete Bl'ast! the entire set, and Steven's antics/stage presence blended well with Buzz & Dale, whereas most other bassists I'd seen have been overshadowed by those two.
In the past, my attention was usually held by Buzz/Dale, but last night I split it up 33-1/3% for each member.
Quote from: lubes17319 on April 28, 2016, 11:51:50 AM
I knew Steven would be good & I was not disappointed. (but like sadcorps I'm a bit biased - being a fan of the McDonald boys since they were Red Cross)
Of all the lineups I've seen, this was one of the funnest sets. Seemed to me they were having a complete Bl'ast! the entire set, and Steven's antics/stage presence blended well with Buzz & Dale, whereas most other bassists I'd seen have been overshadowed by those two.
In the past, my attention was usually held by Buzz/Dale, but last night I split it up 33-1/3% for each member.
His stage presence informs my bass playing as much as his note choices. For real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cppVw1sE774
I was listening to one of the recent shows with Steven and i noticed that quite a few times through the set he would shout "come on!" to the crowd at certain pivotal points in the songs. I liked that energy and intention to inspire the masses but i didn't think it really quite fit for the songs or what we think of in the Melvins. In fact i'd go as far to say i found it a little annoying after a while.
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 09, 2016, 06:28:49 AM
I was listening to one of the recent shows with Steven and i noticed that quite a few times through the set he would shout "come on!" to the crowd at certain pivotal points in the songs. I liked that energy and intention to inspire the masses but i didn't think it really quite fit for the songs or what we think of in the Melvins. In fact i'd go as far to say i found it a little annoying after a while.
Nah, theres no rule for how to behave.
Yeah i agree and of course i think there is a great difference between being present at the show and me sat just listening to a show. The feel and vibe is different. The context. But i just felt it was a bit too much. A bit overdone while hearing it.
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 09, 2016, 06:54:58 AM
Yeah i agree and of course i think there is a great difference between being present at the show and me sat just listening to a show. The feel and vibe is different. The context. But i just felt it was a bit too much. A bit overdone while hearing it.
That is as much part of Steven McDonald on the bass at a live concert as Buzzo's Mumu. It is meant to be over the top - very much influenced by Paul Stanley and other rockers who scream "Alright!" and "Come on!" while rocking hard. Certainly made for those in attendance at the concert.
I noticed at the show two nights ago, Buzz smiles almost every time Steven screams something into the microphone. I would say - that is approval from the KING.
Either I totally missed it, or he wasn't doing it yet when I saw them.
I've seen Steven chew a crowd out for not being engaged enough (at Redd Kross shows).
If he is giving it his all the least the crowd could do is respond in kind.
Quote from: meezer on May 09, 2016, 10:37:12 AM
Either I totally missed it, or he wasn't doing it yet when I saw them.
Yeah - I did not see much of any of that during the first two shows I saw him with Melvins last month. He is 100% in his element now. At the Troubador he was getting up on the PA speakers for bass solos even.
Absolutely LOVE Steven on bass. I'm glad I pulled the phone out and got this.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/aStcPu8ojw4 (https://youtu.be/aStcPu8ojw4)
Thank you for posting that!
Quote from: The Minneapolis Kid on May 09, 2016, 10:07:09 PM
Absolutely LOVE Steven on bass. I'm glad I pulled the phone out and got this.
Enjoy.
Agreed. Thank you for sharing
Quote from: coreystevens88 on May 10, 2016, 07:14:19 AM
Quote from: The Minneapolis Kid on May 09, 2016, 10:07:09 PM
Absolutely LOVE Steven on bass. I'm glad I pulled the phone out and got this.
Enjoy.
Agreed. Thank you for sharing
Quote from: GiveMe45 on May 09, 2016, 11:13:48 PM
Thank you for posting that!
My pleasure! They were a fucking powerhouse that night and I think everyone in the building was feeding off of Stevens energy. He fits so well in such a weird way. I don't want to say he's my favorite but he's funner to watch than Pinkus but Trevor fighting his Stand up is pretty amazing too. I really hope they do more touring with Steven and write more music too. His back up vocals are amazing as well. Jared's work with Buzz's voice but Steven is all Dale and man they sound great together!
Thanks for sharing. Steven McDonald is such a true badass - fantastic human as well. He brings a great rock energy to the Melvins that takes them over the top in a way that no one else can. Plus - his work in Redd Kross is amazing. For those that have not yet checked out "Born Innocent" and "Neurotica" check those out pronto. IF you can hang with those then dig into "Teen Babes from Monsanto" and "Phase Shifter" with a side of their first EP. Redd Kross is my other Melvins.
best bassist they had since Kevin i guess
Quote from: sadcorps on May 10, 2016, 06:19:38 PM
Thanks for sharing. Steven McDonald is such a true badass - fantastic human as well. He brings a great rock energy to the Melvins that takes them over the top in a way that no one else can. Plus - his work in Redd Kross is amazing. For those that have not yet checked out "Born Innocent" and "Neurotica" check those out pronto. IF you can hang with those then dig into "Teen Babes from Monsanto" and "Phase Shifter" with a side of their first EP. Redd Kross is my other Melvins.
I really wished I had discovered Redd Kross 20 years ago. Glad I finally did. It blows my mind that Steven was fucking ELEVEN when he started Redd Kross. He opened for Black Flag when he was ELEVEN. It's no wonder why he's an amazing bass player and I've heard he has some amazing stories too. His energy is exactly what the Melvins needed to add to the arsenal. I love the Kiss shirt's he and Dale are wearing too.
Quote from: black stallion on May 11, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
best bassist they had since Kevin i guess
for me Steve and Trevor are both on the next level like Kevin. I can't say that Steven is better than Trevor though. Nor could I say Trevor is better than Steven. They're both amazing.
Trevor Dunn is a great bassist but i can't say too much about him in the band because he didn't play too often with them. the upright bass thing was good for sure
Quote from: black stallion on May 11, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
Trevor Dunn is a great bassist but i can't say too much about him in the band because he didn't play too often with them. the upright bass thing was good for sure
That's true. I did see him play with them when they did Houdini and it was the first time they did eggsol live in SF. Trevor hair was pretty long then and he and Buzz where wearing all black mumus and they why Trevor was playing sometimes was like he was conjuring the devil, especially the eggsol night. I think that's why he's alway's stood out to me.
I remember that like it was yesterday! I left Maryland Deathfest a day early so I could catch that show. Especially this song because of Trevor drilling a hole in the stage with his bass.
Quote from: The Minneapolis Kid on May 11, 2016, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on May 10, 2016, 06:19:38 PM
Thanks for sharing. Steven McDonald is such a true badass - fantastic human as well. He brings a great rock energy to the Melvins that takes them over the top in a way that no one else can. Plus - his work in Redd Kross is amazing. For those that have not yet checked out "Born Innocent" and "Neurotica" check those out pronto. IF you can hang with those then dig into "Teen Babes from Monsanto" and "Phase Shifter" with a side of their first EP. Redd Kross is my other Melvins.
I really wished I had discovered Redd Kross 20 years ago. Glad I finally did. It blows my mind that Steven was fucking ELEVEN when he started Redd Kross. He opened for Black Flag when he was ELEVEN. It's no wonder why he's an amazing bass player and I've heard he has some amazing stories too. His energy is exactly what the Melvins needed to add to the arsenal. I love the Kiss shirt's he and Dale are wearing too.
Quote from: black stallion on May 11, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
best bassist they had since Kevin i guess
for me Steve and Trevor are both on the next level like Kevin. I can't say that Steven is better than Trevor though. Nor could I say Trevor is better than Steven. They're both amazing.
I 100% agree with you on this. Both are super nice guys too. Huge KISS fans. (It all comes back to KISS).
Quote from: The Minneapolis Kid on May 11, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: black stallion on May 11, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
Trevor Dunn is a great bassist but i can't say too much about him in the band because he didn't play too often with them. the upright bass thing was good for sure
That's true. I did see him play with them when they did Houdini and it was the first time they did eggsol live in SF. Trevor hair was pretty long then and he and Buzz where wearing all black mumus and they why Trevor was playing sometimes was like he was conjuring the devil, especially the eggsol night. I think that's why he's alway's stood out to me.
I would like to see ELECTRIC Trevor in the band again. I did see him do Lysol/Eggnog in LA. It was amazing!!!!!!!
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: goldennuggetrecordings on March 24, 2016, 05:13:15 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on March 24, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
I just witnessed two nights in a row of Steven McDonald on bass. The energy, tone and riffage he brings is stellar. Watch out - in my opinion this is the best lineup I have seen live! (the only lineups that I have never seen live are the Buzz/Mike/Lukin and Buzz/Dale/Joe lineups.)
this is the impression ive been getting, but didnt want to jump to conclusions... all i know is i watch every melvins video i can find, ive seen a lot, theyre mostly all in line with eachother, and then i watched the eye flys and suddenly it hit me like BAM this is different in the best way possible!
yeah. im pumped.
I hear you there! Just WAIT until you witness Eye Flys with McDonald on bass - it is taken to a whole new level!!!!!
Def my favorite live rendition of the song I've heard yet (and I've seen them live dozens of times).
Saw the first two of their Troubadour shows in L.A. last weekend. McDonald's bass playing and stage presence are both really good. I liked his random emphatic shouting in to the mic he did here and there too.
Having just read that recent Buzz interview, it made me wonder if Steven on bass is a longer term deal than i thought. Besides, does anyone know what's happening with Off at the moment? They seem to have gone kinda quiet when before they were pretty productive. I assume they are not on hiatus at least. Perhaps Mario and Dimitri are just working with their other bands allowing Steven to be a Melvin for a while right??
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 13, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
Having just read that recent Buzz interview, it made me wonder if Steven on bass is a longer term deal than i thought. Besides, does anyone know what's happening with Off at the moment? They seem to have gone kinda quiet when before they were pretty productive. I assume they are not on hiatus at least. Perhaps Mario and Dimitri are just working with their other bands allowing Steven to be a Melvin for a while right??
I would like to see Steven be the permanent bassist. I imagine that OFF!, Redd Kross and Melvins can all exist at the same time with Steven in the bass role. Mario also plays in Earthless. Keith has Flag dates coming up. And I am not sure what else Dimitri does?
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 13, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
Having just read that recent Buzz interview, it made me wonder if Steven on bass is a longer term deal than i thought
i hope so
check the bass on Onions... (starting from 5:07)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64o2qIInFA0
Fucking awesome! Melvins need more Lead Bass Guitar!
Last time Redd Kross was in town Steven told us that the song Frosted Flake was about 'That Pavement Singer' Stephen Malkmus.
"Does he still live here? He was such a blunt monkey."
Apparently they went to high school together and that was their nick name for him. Who knows how much of that was true, but hearing him play this with the Melvins reminded me of the story.
Quote from: deatheats on May 16, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
Last time Redd Kross was in town Steven told us that the song Frosted Flake was about 'That Pavement Singer' Stephen Malkmus.
"Does he still live here? He was such a blunt monkey."
Apparently they went to high school together and that was their nick name for him. Who knows how much of that was true, but hearing him play this with the Melvins reminded me of the story.
Cool story!!!! I hope everyone here bought a copy of Neurotica for sale on the tour!!! I bought my 6th or 7th copy.
Quote from: black stallion on May 14, 2016, 04:05:52 AM
check the bass on Onions... (starting from 5:07)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64o2qIInFA0
FULL ON!!!!!! Lead bassists rule.
Quote from: sadcorps on May 16, 2016, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: black stallion on May 14, 2016, 04:05:52 AM
check the bass on Onions... (starting from 5:07)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64o2qIInFA0
FULL ON!!!!!! Lead bassists rule.
He's so fucking awesome. I really hope they do a full length album with him. I'm excited to get my Basses Loaded CD in the mail so I can listen to War Pussy on constant repeat.
pretty cool. seems like he fits in very well. looking forward to seeing him as a melvin this year.
http://www.laweekly.com/music/off-redd-kross-bassist-steve-mcdonald-loves-his-new-gig-in-the-melvins-7124455 (http://www.laweekly.com/music/off-redd-kross-bassist-steve-mcdonald-loves-his-new-gig-in-the-melvins-7124455)
I'd copy/paste it, but that website is killing my tablet. :?
Quote from: meezer on July 15, 2016, 11:30:24 PM
http://www.laweekly.com/music/off-redd-kross-bassist-steve-mcdonald-loves-his-new-gig-in-the-melvins-7124455 (http://www.laweekly.com/music/off-redd-kross-bassist-steve-mcdonald-loves-his-new-gig-in-the-melvins-7124455)
I'd copy/paste it, but that website is killing my tablet. :?
thank you for posting,that was a nice read. hope this guy will stay in Melvins for a long time,i'd love to hear a full album with him on bass
Quote from: black stallion on July 16, 2016, 08:00:40 AM
i'd love to hear a full album with him on bass
Me too! Although i was glad he confirmed in the interview that Off are still together. Funny that the next Melvins album (going by Brian's cryptic post) seems to be involving someone else on bass yet Steven suggests he's not out of the picture as far as he knows. Or lets on!
I like that Steve has been confirmed for bass duties for at least 2 new Melvins albums. I'd like to see him stick around on bass for at least a couple of years and a few records. Same goes for Pinkus. I like when Melvins have new bassists for them to have a defined "era". To be seen to have a decent amount of time in the band and then to be able to look back at that phase as a whole.
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 26, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
I like that Steve has been confirmed for bass duties for at least 2 new Melvins albums. I'd like to see him stick around on bass for at least a couple of years and a few records. Same goes for Pinkus. I like when Melvins have new bassists for them to have a defined "era". To be seen to have a decent amount of time in the band and then to be able to look back at that phase as a whole.
agreed
Wassup with this new Gibson Explorer style axe?
(https://s4.postimg.org/fco64ulft/FB_IMG_1499631420734.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fco64ulft/)
i think he used that bass during 90's with RK
the more i watch this guy the more i love his style of playing
I've really come around to this guy, after seeing him with the Melvins a couple times now and hearing the new album. I like what he adds musically, with a clear appreciation for 60's rock and psych stuff. I think he is closest to Mark D (if comparing to former bassists).
Quote from: black stallion on July 31, 2017, 11:52:27 AM
the more i watch this guy the more i love his style of playing
At Bash I stood on the side of the stage and it was the side of the stage that he was on so I was about 15 feet away from him. Had so much fun watching him
the dude has personality.
I have a feeling that this is now the definitive line up of the Melvins.
1) Steven is a bad ass bass player
2) Steven is clearly a hard working person
3) He comes from a band that Buzz and Dale love and has endless stories that he can certainly tell
4) He loves the Melvins business model
5) He is having fun and is not an asshole
I just do not see them getting another bass player at this point, I mean, they just went through the era of TONS of bassists in a short amount of time, so the logical thing for Melvins to do now is just keep Steven as a permanent member.
Plus - he is the only other person in the last 25 years to get to do a Melvins Solo Album.
I agree, I think maybe they were saving this honor for the right person. The more I listen to Death and the solo record and "Give it to Me" the more I appreciate how right he is. The test for me was "Sacrifice" live. Not that it's a difficult thing to play, but it's got to feel right. Must say, though, Jared also nailed that one.
I don't fault his playing one bit. Not at all. I can sort of tolerate the enthusiasm and silliness on stage too however im not personally fond of his singing voice or the song stylings he brings to the band. He looks the part of a Melvins bassist but really i wish he just got those influences out in Redd Kross (a band i don't like) and worked more with OFF (a band i do really like!). For my money i wish Jeff or Trevor were full time Melvins instead.
you haven't seen the last of Jeff Pinkus.
just sayin.
Quote from: glen on August 01, 2017, 10:14:09 AM
you haven't seen the last of Jeff Pinkus.
just sayin.
2nded on that one.
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 01, 2017, 10:12:04 AM
I don't fault his playing one bit. Not at all. I can sort of tolerate the enthusiasm and silliness on stage too however im not personally fond of his singing voice or the song stylings he brings to the band. He looks the part of a Melvins bassist but really i wish he just got those influences out in Redd Kross (a band i don't like) and worked more with OFF (a band i do really like!). For my money i wish Jeff or Trevor were full time Melvins instead.
Welcome back!
Ian is back ! :toke:
Steven is a nice guy and a great bass player, I hope they'll keep him for a longer time (or hopefully he won't get annoyed with Buzz and Dale too soon :P)
Quote from: AxelFoley on August 01, 2017, 01:37:13 PM
Steven is a nice guy and a great bass player, I hope they'll keep him for a longer time (or hopefully he won't get annoyed with Buzz and Dale too soon :P)
nobody noticed his bass tone is ridiculously heavy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nuk5gB6Ckk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOG08twvHLA
Quote from: sadcorps on December 03, 2015, 11:36:31 PM
Not only does he play in Redd Kross and OFF! but has also played with Beck, Sparks, Anarchy 6 and Tator Totz.
wow, didn't know he played with Beck!
Quote from: black stallion on August 08, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on December 03, 2015, 11:36:31 PM
Not only does he play in Redd Kross and OFF! but has also played with Beck, Sparks, Anarchy 6 and Tator Totz.
wow, didn't know he played with Beck!
When? I thought he's had the same bass player when I saw him in 2000 and 2016
go to 10:20, i think he talks about that. my translation doesn't work well though :( . well, i think he doesn't tell too much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpACDSyYMVQ
ok, they're probably referring to this song, which includes various artists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_They_Know_It%27s_Hallowe%27en%3F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgux6aGzb3k
Quote from: black stallion on August 08, 2017, 11:12:40 AM
go to 10:20, i think he talks about that. my translation doesn't work well though :( . well, i think he doesn't tell too much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpACDSyYMVQ
ok, they're probably referring to this song, which includes various artists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_They_Know_It%27s_Hallowe%27en%3F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgux6aGzb3k
He played in Beck's band for a bit.
I hear PinkuS might be back next year, here's hoping
Quote from: Green Honey on August 10, 2017, 06:46:59 AM
I hear PinkuS might be back next year, hears hoping
I suspect so. The band has recorded an album with Steve AND Pinkus together so i would imagine they would both feature in a live set-up.
He has a gold record at home too.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Tenacious_D_album_cover.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_D_(album)
Quote from: GrimReaper on August 12, 2017, 02:58:30 AM
He has a gold record at home too.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Tenacious_D_album_cover.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_D_(album)
This album kicks so much ass!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBon-Zit9Xo
first Firebird bass in Melvins history? :-k
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I wish Melvins were Steve free! Surely he can keep busy enough away in Redd Kross and Off! whilst staying away from Melvins? Just keep it - Buzz, Dale, Jeff/Trevor.
Quote from: ))))(((( on September 20, 2019, 09:43:45 AM
I wish Melvins were Steve free! Surely he can keep busy enough away in Redd Kross and Off! whilst staying away from Melvins? Just keep it - Buzz, Dale, Jeff/Trevor.
:lol:
Steve has a work ethic that fits the Melvins' business model. He gets along with everyone. He's now an official member.
I plan of seeing a few Buzz/Trevor shows in Europe next year. See you there at the Steve free shows. You're buying Ian.
I'd like to see Joe Preston with them again, as an opener and sitting in. Joe's from Salem, have you been seeing him around at all, 45?
Quote from: ))))(((( on September 20, 2019, 09:43:45 AM
I wish Melvins were Steve free! Surely he can keep busy enough away in Redd Kross and Off! whilst staying away from Melvins? Just keep it - Buzz, Dale, Jeff/Trevor.
That is not going to happen any time in the near future. Steven is a seriously badass player, has the kind of work ethic that the Melvins require and Steven and Dale are so tight that Steven and Dale both play together in Melvins, Redd Kross, Dale Crover Band and sometimes OFF!
Of course Melvins will continue to work with other bass players here and there, but I don't see them becoming "Steve Free".
I for one could not be happier as Melvins and Redd Kross are the two greatest living bands in the world since at least 1987 when I came upon them both.
Quote from: sadcorps on September 20, 2019, 04:59:20 PM
I for one could not be happier as Melvins and Redd Kross are the two greatest living bands in the world since at least 1987 when I came upon them both.
Red X? Certainly not what I heard, but then that's the first time I've seen them. Way too much vocals. I was asking myself whether it was a CSNY show or Vienna Boys Choir. Steven was good on bass with Melvins, but Red X? =;
As is most Melvins fans favourite topic of discussion or ponderings, i was just thinking about the previous bassists. To see that Steve has basically been in the band now for 6 years makes me wonder how much longer he might be the bassist of choice. Could he end up being the longest serving Melvins bassist beating Jared's approximate 9 years?? Also whether he may end up being the last bassist they ever have!!!! Although i think that might be a tall order at this point. But who knows!
Fucking swivel hips!!!!!!!!!!
That's what I want to see, I loved the cows before I loved the Melvins, and when Kevin got in the band, I was so fucking happy and honestly hostile ambient takeover is so full of the craziest shit and it's all Kevin on bass, I really wish they would do some shit with him.
The cover with Jell-O....meh
Quote from: JFKC on January 08, 2021, 07:33:04 PM
Fucking swivel hips!!!!!!!!!!
That's what I want to see, I loved the cows before I loved the Melvins, and when Kevin got in the band, I was so fucking happy and honestly hostile ambient takeover is so full of the craziest shit and it's all Kevin on bass, I really wish they would do some shit with him.
Same here, Kevin is my favourite too.
The other reason why I think Steven will stick around is because he can write songs, taking the load off of Buzz. Seems like there are only a handful of tunes on the last few records that didn't have Steven's grubby fingers in it. Personally, I'm not a big fan and I feel he's steered them towards a poppier, rock sound.
Same thing with Big Biz though. Jared could hold his own and wrote songs to take the pressure off of Buzz. And boy, did he write some good ones. Maybe they can partner with Geddy Lee next...
Quote from: the bloat on January 08, 2021, 07:53:37 PM
The other reason why I think Steven will stick around is because he can write songs, taking the load off of Buzz. Seems like there are only a handful of tunes on the last few records that didn't have Steven's grubby fingers in it. Personally, I'm not a big fan and I feel he's steered them towards a poppier, rock sound.
Same thing with Big Biz though. Jared could hold his own and wrote songs to take the pressure off of Buzz. And boy, did he write some good ones. Maybe they can partner with Geddy Lee next...
I agree and think Steven is also highly professional so this might be it for good. I think him adding a pop rock sound is a combination of his influence, their ages and possibly Dale's back problems too. As much as I would like to see Big Melvins again I think those days are gone now.
Steven McDonald will be a member of the Melvins until the end.
1) He plays in Redd Kross and Melvins love Redd Kross.
2) Dale plays drums in Redd Kross and Dale loves Redd Kross.
3) Steven lives in Los Angeles, making it very easy to work with.
4) Steven is a genuinely nice guy.
5) Steven is a badass bass player
6) Steven can sing.
7) Steven can write.
8) Steven does not have drinking or drug problems
9) Steven is a professional musician and is very roadtested
10) Steven's stories entertain the fuck out of Buzz
11) Steven likes the gig
I could go on and on and on. I am a huge fan of Steven McDonald.
Quote from: sadcorps on January 08, 2021, 09:29:24 PM
Steven McDonald will be a member of the Melvins until the end.
1) He plays in Redd Kross and Melvins love Redd Kross.
2) Dale plays drums in Redd Kross and Dale loves Redd Kross.
3) Steven lives in Los Angeles, making it very easy to work with.
4) Steven is a genuinely nice guy.
5) Steven is a badass bass player
6) Steven can sing.
7) Steven can write.
8) Steven does not have drinking or drug problems
9) Steven is a professional musician and is very roadtested
10) Steven's stories entertain the fuck out of Buzz
11) Steven likes the gig
I could go on and on and on. I am a huge fan of Steven McDonald.
agree with all of these and i too like him a lot. just seeing his role in the livestream tells me he's not going anywhere soon and those embellishments on Evil New War God were so friggin sweet. i love how he adapts their songs to his style and improves them.
Jesus I hope you are all wrong. Go away Steven. I hate his singing, But I also don't like redd Kross. They were insufferable on that last tour with the Melvins. I saw 3 shows on that tour and they were just bad all 3 times. I know I'm being a hater but he's been my least favorite bass player they've had. They've done some cheesy things in the past, but To me He adds an element of cheesiness to the band in the worst kind of way. Before him, I would always try to get friends who weren't familiar with the band to go see em live with me, but now it's like I'm almost embarrassed for them to see this band that I love so much with this bass player. I know he's an awesome player and I've actually warmed up to his playing on a walk with love and death, but I'm still pissed that he ruined Amazon live for me. 😂 He used this stupid sounding phaser pedal or something over the whole damn song. It sounded like a 15 year old just got a new DOD phaser. You know what....That's what Steven is to me with the Melvins, he's this loud annoying phaser effect over one of my favorite songs. 😂
I wish him well, just in a different band. I don't care how awesome of a player he is, it doesn't fix his singing. I wish they'd do big Melvins again. They haven't sounded as good live since that era. I hate to say it but it's true. Plus, the songwriting was just on a different level. With all that hate being said, I do dig the new 1983 songs.
Speaking personally I've actually seen The Melvins with Steven more than any other bassist at this point and he absolutely shines on the live stage, just an unreal energy and charisma for his age. He's a perfect fit for the more rock direction the band has embraced and fits the band's tongue-in-cheek nature to a tee. Seeing Melvins with Big Business, Trevor Dunn and Pinkus offered their own charms and amazing shows too but I wouldn't mind seeing them with Steven many more times to come.
I really want another full-length with Steven as all of the one's we got either don't fully feature him (PAT, Basses Loaded) or are A Walk With Love and Death, which IMO is one of the weaker albums.
Quote from: CoryCory on January 09, 2021, 10:30:25 AM
I really want another full-length with Steven as all of the one's we got either don't fully feature him (PAT, Basses Loaded) or are A Walk With Love and Death, which IMO is one of the weaker albums.
Yes, in that sense it is a bit weird that he has been a Melvin for so long now and yet hasn't really had "his" Melvins album yet.
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 09, 2021, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: CoryCory on January 09, 2021, 10:30:25 AM
I really want another full-length with Steven as all of the one's we got either don't fully feature him (PAT, Basses Loaded) or are A Walk With Love and Death, which IMO is one of the weaker albums.
Yes, in that sense it is a bit weird that he has been a Melvin for so long now and yet hasn't really had "his" Melvins album yet.
because Melvins seem not interested into putting out proper albums anymore. honestly i don't see all this ruining the band by Steven.. the pop/rock or whatever you want to call it direction has been taken by Buzz and Dale first i guess, besides Steven. maybe it's really because of the infamous back problems of Dale that Bigval keeps on talking about :lol:
I'm a full on Steven convert after the past few years. I agree that the auto phaser squelch was a mis-step but I think he has moved on from that. The first track on "Death" still rules, though, and I think it had that effect.
I like Steven's bass skills and he has good energy during live shows. However, I'm not really a fan of his singing or songwriting. I thought Jared fit great with the band, especially vocally. Would love to see Big Business rejoin the Melvins. Kevin would probably be my next favorite Melvins bassist of this century; though watching him live was a bit unnerving.
Quote from: spliff(TONE) on January 10, 2021, 02:02:37 PM
Kevin would probably be my next favorite Melvins bassist of this century; though watching him live was a bit unnerving.
Classy Kevin!
Looked totally fucked up but played very great and intense, ahah!
All very good to me...
Quote from: el gep on January 10, 2021, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: spliff(TONE) on January 10, 2021, 02:02:37 PM
Kevin would probably be my next favorite Melvins bassist of this century; though watching him live was a bit unnerving.
Classy Kevin!
Looked totally fucked up but played very great and intense, ahah!
All very good to me...
Not just the playing, but i loved all the weirdo effects he contributed to songs too. HAT in particular has loads of that stuff and works so well. It may never happen but i do long for at least one more Melvins with Kevin album! Although i suppose 'Three Men And A Baby' was that little treasure.
I want some more treasure
me $0.02:
Steven is here to stay - for all the reasons that Sadcorps listed. he fits in with them on such a level I don't think I've seen them have with anybody else except Kevin. They all get along really well both musical and friends. I can't imagine they would move on without him at this point. A new bassist now I think would be too much a challenge to accommodate at this late in their game (2 years till 40th!! :shock:)
I would personally enjoy seeing them pull in an earlier punk influence, that Steven has the pedigree for (hanging out sharing a practice space with Black Flag when you're 12 years old.... jeez!), more than the glam-rock, that he excels at. the snot-mean punk sound on the Melvins stinks so good. imo.
Kevin is the beautifully UGLY side of the MELVINS, he fit 'em like a found used condom fits a too large dick with a tattoo along the shaft in old english script that says "Everybody Is Welcome". gross.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Melvins Hepa-Titus Big Band!!
I like Steven.
Ya know what.... whoever melvins wants to play bass ,by golly, that's who they want to play bass, and no matter what.... it's gonna fucking rule, because the motherfucking melvins rule!
Best band EVER! No matter who's on the four string!
The newest issue, #77, of JUICE skateboard magazine ("pools, pipes & punk rock") has a 4 page interview with Steven about the history of Red Cross / Redd Kross. Great read.
That topic and some of the messages here show how a "Fan Forum" can be weird... Some are placing bets, some are telling they know what's good for the band or not, blah blah... Sometimes it's really fascinating here! :)
I've always said I'm not a "real fan" of anything or anyone because fan means Fanatical, eheh!
Well, fan means ventilator too. Life's weird! :lol:
I bet Steven is a poppy secret agent sent by the French Incontinent Secular Rigorists (or the well and badly known F.I.S.R.) according to a vast plan of destroying the Punk Sludge feeling of the band!
Quote from: Hands First Flower on January 13, 2021, 12:20:20 AM
The newest issue, #77, of JUICE skateboard magazine ("pools, pipes & punk rock") has a 4 page interview with Steven about the history of Red Cross / Redd Kross. Great read.
print version available ??
Quote from: laptop sorcery on January 13, 2021, 03:53:09 AM
Quote from: Hands First Flower on January 13, 2021, 12:20:20 AM
The newest issue, #77, of JUICE skateboard magazine ("pools, pipes & punk rock")[...]
print version available ??
YES. i got it at my local skate shop. But....
https://juicemagazine.com/home/juice-magazine-77-features-beatrice-domond-cover/
And for those who might be wondering, yes, Steven is a skateboarder. :D
Yeah, I saw him skate off after they played ,down the street, which made me very happy because I am a skater , of course I just broke my fucking elbow recently for life and I don't think I'll ever be able to skate again, but,that made me like him very much more. So long live Steven and long live Steven in the Melvins....
I'm sorry to keep bringing Kevin back up, but really what I want more than anything is for the cows to get back together, I want somebody to go talk to ThoR
Eisentrager and fucking make him play guitar with those fucking creeps again, they were such a fucking bad ass band, and Thor is one of the best fucking guitar players other than Paul Leary and buzz that I've ever fucking heard my my life ( my dumb ass opinion). Fucking Shannon is the most scariest front man I've ever encountered, one time when they played in town I went to go tell them how much I loved them all, and I walked right up to Shannon and he gave me a look that scared me, and I walked away.... when Buzz produced their last record I knew it was gonna be fucking amazing, and it was, and I saw them on that tour, and I was so stoked. Then, I heard that Kevin join the Melvins , I was fucking so happy. Then I found out the cows broke up and I drank a case of beer, smoked a bunch of crack, ate a bunch of hash, took a bunch of Lunestra sleeping pills,smoked some speed,and set a building on fire....
https://youtu.be/akatg_LI5cU
since when is steven in pink mountaintops
Quote from: Nizamark on February 15, 2022, 11:04:51 AM
since when is steven in pink mountaintops
I like Steven as a person, but i wouldn't be very sad if he wasn't in Melvins any more. Although im sure this development is just a short term thing. Perhaps even just for that music video.
From some website:
"This May, Pink Mountaintops will release their new album Peacock Pools, which started out as McBean recording demos by himself at his house outside LA early in the pandemic. For this album, the band's lineup includes fellow Black Mountain members, as well as musicians who have played in Destroyer, Death Valley Girls, and Ryley Walker's band. Ty Segall collaborator Emily Rose Epstein joins in on vocals, and legends like Redd Kross' Steven McDonald and Melvins' Dale Crover make contributions."
Quote from: JFKC on January 13, 2021, 05:52:57 PM
Yeah, I saw him skate off after they played ,down the street, which made me very happy because I am a skater , of course I just broke my fucking elbow recently for life and I don't think I'll ever be able to skate again, but,that made me like him very much more. So long live Steven and long live Steven in the Melvins....
I'm sorry to keep bringing Kevin back up, but really what I want more than anything is for the cows to get back together, I want somebody to go talk to ThoR
Eisentrager and fucking make him play guitar with those fucking creeps again, they were such a fucking bad ass band, and Thor is one of the best fucking guitar players other than Paul Leary and buzz that I've ever fucking heard my my life ( my dumb ass opinion). Fucking Shannon is the most scariest front man I've ever encountered, one time when they played in town I went to go tell them how much I loved them all, and I walked right up to Shannon and he gave me a look that scared me, and I walked away.... when Buzz produced their last record I knew it was gonna be fucking amazing, and it was, and I saw them on that tour, and I was so stoked. Then, I heard that Kevin join the Melvins , I was fucking so happy. Then I found out the cows broke up and I drank a case of beer, smoked a bunch of crack, ate a bunch of hash, took a bunch of Lunestra sleeping pills,smoked some speed,and set a building on fire....
I doubt we will see Cows again, especially with the old lineup. They did a show in Minneapolis like 7 years ago? but with Paul from Hammerhead on guitar. I missed that unfortunately.
I think Kevin and Melvins get along fine these days. It would actually be a cool idea to let bring Kevin along on tour together with Steven.
does anyone know which pedal Steven is using during this tour? sounds as a Flanger or Phaser. I think it sounds not so good :?
check it's shoved
https://youtu.be/GNGvdFCS5G0
it's insane to me that some of you don't like Steven.
Quote from: immoraliste on March 20, 2022, 11:09:15 AM
it's insane to me that some of you don't like Steven.
"you're picking fly shit out of pepper" - King Buzzo :lol:
Quote from: black stallion on March 20, 2022, 05:07:35 AM
does anyone know which pedal Steven is using during this tour? sounds as a Flanger or Phaser. I think it sounds not so good :?
check it's shoved
https://youtu.be/GNGvdFCS5G0
Sounds like a fuckin DOD flanger or some bullshit. All I know is he used it on Amazon when I saw them years ago and ruined the song for me live that night. He used it on a bunch of stuff and it was just unnecessary. You've got this super heavy song and then you got Steven over there acting like a goofball with this horrible flanger effect on the bass that was so loud it made the song comical. I really like his playing on a walk with love and death but I despise his vocals and his dod flanger effect on classic songs live. It doesn't help that I also hate redd Kross. Worst opening band I've seen for the Melvins.
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
I really like his playing on a walk with love and death but I despise his vocals and his dod flanger effect on classic songs live. It doesn't help that I also hate redd Kross.
Pretty much the same here. He's a good player but just too poppy and upbeat sounding for my tastes. I've got kind of used to him jumping around the stage but i still sort of feel it doesn't fit in with the bands vibe. Or at least their older vibe. With previous bassists it seemed to be more attitude coming off the stage. Perhaps a bit menacing or "fuck you" but with Steven it just seems goofy.
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
Worst opening band I've seen for the Melvins.
I can't go quite that far. I would say Tweak Bird or Shit Kid are way worse. Easily ones that stick in my memory as bad.
I like Steve, and I enjoy his string bends and effects. I thought he was great w/ OFF!, got to see them twice including the tour w/ Dale. Not a fan of Redd Kross either though. I think he got some of his pedals from Bootsy Collins or Les Claypool :lol:.
I just realized Steven will soon become the longest tenured Melvins bassist. 2016 to today is 6 yrs. Kevin did about 6 from '98-'04, 5 for Jared('06 to '11). If it wasn't for the pandemic, he'd probably have the most gigs logged in.
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 20, 2022, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
I really like his playing on a walk with love and death but I despise his vocals and his dod flanger effect on classic songs live. It doesn't help that I also hate redd Kross.
Pretty much the same here. He's a good player but just too poppy and upbeat sounding for my tastes. I've got kind of used to him jumping around the stage but i still sort of feel it doesn't fit in with the bands vibe. Or at least their older vibe. With previous bassists it seemed to be more attitude coming off the stage. Perhaps a bit menacing or "fuck you" but with Steven it just seems goofy.
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
Worst opening band I've seen for the Melvins.
I can't go quite that far. I would say Tweak Bird or Shit Kid are way worse. Easily ones that stick in my memory as bad.
Spotlights without a drummer easily takes the top spot for worst Melvins opener, but only because I never seen ShitKid. Bullet dodged on that one?
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
It doesn't help that I also hate redd Kross. Worst opening band I've seen for the Melvins.
The last time I saw the Melvins live they were the support band so I intentionally got there after their set had finished.
Quote from: CoryCory on March 20, 2022, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 20, 2022, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
I really like his playing on a walk with love and death but I despise his vocals and his dod flanger effect on classic songs live. It doesn't help that I also hate redd Kross.
Pretty much the same here. He's a good player but just too poppy and upbeat sounding for my tastes. I've got kind of used to him jumping around the stage but i still sort of feel it doesn't fit in with the bands vibe. Or at least their older vibe. With previous bassists it seemed to be more attitude coming off the stage. Perhaps a bit menacing or "fuck you" but with Steven it just seems goofy.
Quote from: dirtmerchant on March 20, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
Worst opening band I've seen for the Melvins.
I can't go quite that far. I would say Tweak Bird or Shit Kid are way worse. Easily ones that stick in my memory as bad.
Spotlights without a drummer easily takes the top spot for worst Melvins opener, but only because I never seen ShitKid. Bullet dodged on that one?
Shitkid opened for Dale Crover Band and was slotted to open for Melvins before the falling out, so i don't think anyone has ever seen them open The Melvins. i was super into Spotlights on tape that summer and the set with the drums on laptop completely lost me. Dale has played drums for the openers so many times. i don't understand why it didn't happen that time.
https://modpods.bandcamp.com/
This thread has ventured into worst opening acts, and I'd like to add the ModPods. Dale came up to me and said, they were awesome! I was thinking, what? Dale did snag the drummer for his DCB so I get it.
)))(((, you Sir, think Tweak Bird was terrible? Have you lost all sensibilities? That was one of Dale Crover's best talent finds IMO.
As far as Steven goes, he's here to stay. Great work ethic, lives in LA, fun to be around from what I've observed, brings creativity, what is there not to love besides his pop sensibility?
ah, if Dale would come to me saying Backstreet Boys are cool I'd probably agree with him O:)
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 21, 2022, 12:16:01 AM
)))(((, you Sir, think Tweak Bird was terrible? Have you lost all sensibilities? That was one of Dale Crover's best talent finds IMO.
It's the vocals primarily that i dislike about Tweak Bird. I really, REALLY hate the vocals. The music is okay.
Quote from: black stallion on March 21, 2022, 07:22:07 AM
ah, if Dale would come to me saying Backstreet Boys are cool I'd probably agree with him
Then you would both spontaneously break into a rapturous version of 'I Want It That Way' ......"TELL ME WHY!!!!"
:lol: :shock:
Quote from: vince furnier on March 20, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
Shitkid opened for Dale Crover Band and was slotted to open for Melvins before the falling out, so i don't think anyone has ever seen them open The Melvins.
Apart from the 18 gigs at which they opened for Melvins, I concur.
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 21, 2022, 12:16:01 AM
As far as Steven goes, he's here to stay. Great work ethic, lives in LA, fun to be around from what I've observed, brings creativity, what is there not to love besides his pop sensibility?
Love Steven. Love Redd Kross. His bass playing fucking rules. Gene Simmons meets Paul McCartney.
Quote from: sadcorps on March 21, 2022, 08:44:40 PM
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 21, 2022, 12:16:01 AM
As far as Steven goes, he's here to stay. Great work ethic, lives in LA, fun to be around from what I've observed, brings creativity, what is there not to love besides his pop sensibility?
Gene Simmons meets Paul McCartney.
yeah, I can definitely see that
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
better living thru (band) chemistry! :lol: :P
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
Nah. Nothing will beat the Kevin era.
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
ah, nice to hear that, I trust you Fart :D
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3sLhnDJJn0
Quote from: jules on March 21, 2022, 12:13:49 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on March 20, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
Shitkid opened for Dale Crover Band and was slotted to open for Melvins before the falling out, so i don't think anyone has ever seen them open The Melvins.
Apart from the 18 gigs at which they opened for Melvins, I concur.
https://youtu.be/yfq3B9JvIcQ
Quote from: vince furnier on March 22, 2022, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: jules on March 21, 2022, 12:13:49 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on March 20, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
Shitkid opened for Dale Crover Band and was slotted to open for Melvins before the falling out, so i don't think anyone has ever seen them open The Melvins.
Apart from the 18 gigs at which they opened for Melvins, I concur.
https://youtu.be/yfq3B9JvIcQ
Matt Barry!
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 22, 2022, 08:24:11 AM
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
Nah. Nothing will beat the Kevin era.
its taken me a while to come to that conclusion. ive seen steveo 3 times now and im hearing so much of what he;s bringing to the songs. shit that no one else thought to do. anybody catch buzz smiling on stage as he's playing? i detected a shit eating grin on him when they launched into anaconda. buzzo is happy again!
Quote from: FartLips on March 24, 2022, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 22, 2022, 08:24:11 AM
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
Nah. Nothing will beat the Kevin era.
its taken me a while to come to that conclusion. ive seen steveo 3 times now and im hearing so much of what he;s bringing to the songs. shit that no one else thought to do. anybody catch buzz smiling on stage as he's playing? i detected a shit eating grin on him when they launched into anaconda. buzzo is happy again!
I will say that (for me) i think it is important to consider each era, each bassist alongside the music that was put out at the time. I think that is one of the very big reasons why i always pick Kevin and his era as my favourite. That string of albums that he featured on have IMO some of the very best Melvins songs. So i suppose it is natural for me to then by default state that Kevin is/was the best bassist. Maybe it is wrong of me to see it like that but that is how i personally judge or value it. I know Steven is a great bass player, but the Melvins songs and albums that have been put out (so far) during his run haven't impacted anywhere near to when Kevin was strutting his funky stuff! I also much prefer the Rutmanis stage presence and chaotic, experimental tendencies to Steven's more happy go lucky approach.
For me the Melvins are like Pizza. It's all fucking good. Sometimes I crave the Mark D pizza - a fucking classic from my 20s! Great bassist, seriously fucking great guitarist an all around amazing musician. When I am listening to Mark D era Melvins - it is my favorite Melvins. But then I remember another great pizza which is the Kevin Pizza - a little more saucy and spicey, but damn is it good. What a pizza!!! But don't forget the old Montesano Style which Lukin - it might not be the best sauce and the cheese might stink - but goddamn that is fucking amazing pizza. Lorax Pizza was great - great classic flavor with a perfect crust. Fuck I love that pizza. Joe pizza is also really good - thick sauce and thick crust - fills you up! Jared Pizza is fucking raging too! That is a FUN PIZZA! Right now, I am loving the Steven McDonald Hawthorne Style slices. I just can't turn any of it down! Remember that crazy Pinkus Pie? That shit was great! And I love me some Trevor Dunn Lite Crust style too. See? All this shit is great. Melvins are pizza.
I didn't think I'd like the Melvins with mushrooms but then that Pinkus pie...
Quote from: FartLips on March 24, 2022, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 22, 2022, 08:24:11 AM
Quote from: FartLips on March 22, 2022, 08:00:04 AM
watching him the other night for the second time, he actually makes the melvins better. BETTER!!!!
Nah. Nothing will beat the Kevin era.
its taken me a while to come to that conclusion. ive seen steveo 3 times now and im hearing so much of what he;s bringing to the songs. shit that no one else thought to do. anybody catch buzz smiling on stage as he's playing? i detected a shit eating grin on him when they launched into anaconda. buzzo is happy again!
This.
No one will ever sound like Kevin, he has his own sound, but as far as chopps go no one beats Steven. the guy is a fucking legend
I'm watching this TX show on YT. Steven is killing it. I love that Buzz wants the band to overplay (I don't think it's just Dunn of Gift of Sacrifice).
I agree I think "AMAZON" suffered in past tours. I think there are probably some other tracks where more patience and calm menace is needed in the bass. But "Kicking Machine," "It's Shoved," "Anaconda," "Revolve" are all tracks where those fills and flourishes are bringing new life.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 29, 2022, 03:29:56 PM
I agree I think "AMAZON" suffered in past tours. I think there are probably some other tracks where more patience and calm menace is needed in the bass.
Eye Flys. I was downright offended watching him flamboyantly butcher that bass line.
It leads me to believe that he hears that song entirely differently than I do, if that's what he thinks serves it.
Quote from: Oscar on March 30, 2022, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 29, 2022, 03:29:56 PM
I agree I think "AMAZON" suffered in past tours. I think there are probably some other tracks where more patience and calm menace is needed in the bass.
Eye Flys. I was downright offended watching him flamboyantly butcher that bass line.
It leads me to believe that he hears that song entirely differently than I do, if that's what he thinks serves it.
:lol: I know what you're talking about. The first time I heard him playing it live, I kept looking around to see if anyone else was hearing the same thing.
Quote from: Oscar on March 30, 2022, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 29, 2022, 03:29:56 PM
I agree I think "AMAZON" suffered in past tours. I think there are probably some other tracks where more patience and calm menace is needed in the bass.
Eye Flys. I was downright offended watching him flamboyantly butcher that bass line.
It leads me to believe that he hears that song entirely differently than I do, if that's what he thinks serves it.
I can see what you mean. I think sometimes he tends to do things that are not so necessary
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 29, 2022, 03:29:56 PM
I'm watching this TX show on YT. Steven is killing it. I love that Buzz wants the band to overplay (I don't think it's just Dunn of Gift of Sacrifice).
Good observation there! quite possibly true too.
I must say I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to bass playing. I say that because oftentimes i don't hear or even register what a bass is doing! I just hear all guitar and drums! Having said that, i noticed when the band had Pinkus in as well as Steve, that it was Steve who really added the extra, emphasized fiddly bits. More than any other Melvins bassist, Steve's clearly a showman both on stage and in his playing. That approach draw attention to itself a whole deal more. Probably more than it should.
Quote from: Oscar on March 30, 2022, 12:23:28 PM
Eye Flys. I was downright offended watching him flamboyantly butcher that bass line.
It leads me to believe that he hears that song entirely differently than I do, if that's what he thinks serves it.
Just watched this video of the song. It is actually kind of funny to watch Steve bouncing around and pulling faces at some points during this. As a side note, i actually think the best performances of Eye Flys were the Melvins Lite ones. It just sounded so badass with the double bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kgeg9mUlqU
Quote from: Oscar on March 30, 2022, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 29, 2022, 03:29:56 PM
I agree I think "AMAZON" suffered in past tours. I think there are probably some other tracks where more patience and calm menace is needed in the bass.
Eye Flys. I was downright offended watching him flamboyantly butcher that bass line.
It leads me to believe that he hears that song entirely differently than I do, if that's what he thinks serves it.
Steven McDonald hears "the melvins" entirely different than I do.
for the record i loved what he did on Amazon. i want more of it too! :P
outfits he wears on stage are super weird too, wonder what's the story behind that.
and another thing that I find super weird is when he introduces Buzz riffs screaming "King Buzzoooooooooo'. I think he does that during It's Shoved. that thing always makes me laugh hard.
I guess Buzz&Dale are totally into that glam style he has on stage.
Quote from: black stallion on March 31, 2022, 01:38:19 AM
and another thing that I find super weird is when he introduces Buzz riffs screaming "King Buzzoooooooooo'. I think he does that during It's Shoved. that thing always makes me laugh hard.
Haha, i must admit i never like that he does that. I didn't mind it at first as a one off, but now it's like he does it at every gig.
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 30, 2022, 07:13:57 PM
As a side note, i actually think the best performances of Eye Flys were the Melvins Lite ones. It just sounded so badass with the double bass.
Absolutely. That's the definitive version, if you ask me. Same goes for Shevil.
Objectively, it tells you what type of player Steven is when he can't show restraint for a 4 note ostinato.
I don't want him fired, I just don't understand what is to be enjoyed about pick slides, trills and hyped up screaming at every given opportunity.
https://youtu.be/2qzCu9P5dbU
Quote from: Oscar on April 01, 2022, 12:40:39 PM
I don't want him fired, I just don't understand what is to be enjoyed about pick slides, trills and hyped up screaming at every given opportunity.
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris :).
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris
Ha! I'm guessing you mean because they are both showmen.
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 16, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris
Ha! I'm guessing you mean because they are both showmen.
i remember reading a review on amazon for a Secret Chiefs 3 live video. someone was crying because a certain violinist they had in the lineup who really enjoys himself while he plays and they wish the other one was there. it ruined the show for them. :lol: :-({|= :cry:
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: Oscar on April 01, 2022, 12:40:39 PM
I don't want him fired, I just don't understand what is to be enjoyed about pick slides, trills and hyped up screaming at every given opportunity.
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris :).
HaHaHa ... fuck no.
Quote from: vince furnier on April 16, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 16, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris
Ha! I'm guessing you mean because they are both showmen.
i remember reading a review on amazon for a Secret Chiefs 3 live video. someone was crying because a certain violinist they had in the lineup who really enjoys himself while he plays and they wish the other one was there. it ruined the show for them. :lol: :-({|= :cry:
Was this about Timb Harris vs Eyvind Kang?
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 16, 2022, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on April 16, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 16, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris
Ha! I'm guessing you mean because they are both showmen.
i remember reading a review on amazon for a Secret Chiefs 3 live video. someone was crying because a certain violinist they had in the lineup who really enjoys himself while he plays and they wish the other one was there. it ruined the show for them. :lol: :-({|= :cry:
Was this about Timb Harris vs Eyvind Kang?
idk the names but sounds about right
Quote from: vince furnier on April 16, 2022, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 16, 2022, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on April 16, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 16, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 15, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Steven should start a new band w/ the drummer from Boris
Ha! I'm guessing you mean because they are both showmen.
i remember reading a review on amazon for a Secret Chiefs 3 live video. someone was crying because a certain violinist they had in the lineup who really enjoys himself while he plays and they wish the other one was there. it ruined the show for them. :lol: :-({|= :cry:
Was this about Timb Harris vs Eyvind Kang?
idk the names but sounds about right
Likely Timb Harris as Eyvind Kang was known for 'not getting into it'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lA6iB8fkg
Probably not news worthy but i was surprised to see that Steven has had his hair cut short!!! He looks like some other guy completely. Is this the first time he's ever had it short??
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 30, 2022, 06:35:20 PM
Probably not news worthy but i was surprised to see that Steven has had his hair cut short!!! :shock: He looks like some other guy completely. Is this the first time he's ever had it short??
how's he gonna convincingly pull off those boss stage leg kicks with that lid?
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 30, 2022, 06:35:20 PM
Probably not news worthy but i was surprised to see that Steven has had his hair cut short!!! :shock: He looks like some other guy completely. Is this the first time he's ever had it short??
"that's my brother Jeff. it even says so in the post" :-s
https://www.instagram.com/p/Chd6Rk2uwQd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Chd6Rk2uwQd/)
Hahahaha oh dear. I didn't read that. I did think he looked VERY different. Phew i'm glad. I hope Steve doesn't follow suit.
That`s almost a reason for being the zillionth bassist to get the sack of Buzz! :lol: Rock stars shall not look like us, grow back your hair, Steven! PS! He looks excactly like a cousin of mine btw.
Something about this lady reminds me of Steven. Maybe it's the face she makes when she cracks up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContagiousLaughter/comments/x8gepl/i_think_they_got_away_with_it/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
My ranking of the Steven albums so far.
1. Five Legged Dog
2. A Walk With Love & Death
3. Bad Mood Rising
4. Basses Loaded
5. Pinkus Abortion Technician
ah you rated AWWLAD higher than BMR
Interesting list!
How I rank Steven's Melvins (so far)
1. Bad Mood Rising
2. PAT
3. Five Legged Dog
4. Basses Loaded
5. Walk
should be the Steven solo album included too? :-k
Quote from: black stallion on October 03, 2022, 03:57:20 PM
ah you rated AWWLAD higher than BMR
It just about pips it for me. But then that is me more thinking about the Death side than the whole lot. As a whole i find AWWL&D really tough to evaluate being that it's effectively two very different releases. I suppose it should be more like this...
1. Five Legged Dog
2. A Walk With Love & Death (Death)
3. Bad Mood Rising
4. Basses Loaded
5. Pinkus Abortion Technician
6. A Walk With Love & Death (Love)
How many songs is he on on Basses Loaded just the one? Not sure that's worth mentioning.
Quote from: Bigval on October 04, 2022, 04:50:58 AM
How many songs is he on on Basses Loaded just the one? Not sure that's worth mentioning.
yeah, not so many i guess
Quote from: Bigval on October 04, 2022, 04:50:58 AM
How many songs is he on on Basses Loaded just the one? Not sure that's worth mentioning.
He's on 4 songs.
The Decay Of Lying
I Want To Tell You
Hideous Woman
War Pussy
You are right that it's not really a Steven (or anyone!) record but i think it still sort of counts or should be considered. I mean 4 songs is still 1/3 of the record!
Yeah Basses counts. It was basically his introduction as the permanent bassist. He even sings one!
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on October 04, 2022, 11:25:13 AM
He even sings one!
He only does backing vocals. Mostly on The Beatles 'I Want To Tell You' i think.
Quote from: ))))(((( on October 04, 2022, 05:51:07 AM
You are right that it's not really a Steven (or anyone!) record but i think it still sort of counts or should be considered. I mean 4 songs is still 1/3 of the record!
Okay that's different then four songs is certainly enough, for some reason I thought he and Dunn were only on one song each.
Steven interview.
https://kiyimuzik.com/a-chat-with-melvins-steven-mcdonald/
QuoteSteven interview.
https://kiyimuzik.com/a-chat-with-melvins-steven-mcdonald/
Good read! Plus some things I didn't know about the band's working process. You can hear that Steven was a bit more involved in BMR and this confirms it. Sounds like Buzz can be tough for bass players to work with. Could this be a factor in the mythical bass player morgue?
A chat with Steven. If you can tolerate an hour of Lydia Lynch that is!
https://lydianspin.libsyn.com/episode-177-bassist-steven-mcdonald
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on March 20, 2022, 01:33:58 PM
I like Steve, and I enjoy his string bends and effects. I thought he was great w/ OFF!, got to see them twice including the tour w/ Dale. Not a fan of Redd Kross either though. I think he got some of his pedals from Bootsy Collins or Les Claypool :lol:.
I just realized Steven will soon become the longest tenured Melvins bassist. 2016 to today is 6 yrs. Kevin did about 6 from '98-'04, 5 for Jared('06 to '11). If it wasn't for the pandemic, he'd probably have the most gigs logged in.
Did a bit of nerdy digging. If Steven is still in the band by 2024 he has the longest consecutive tenure at 9 years, Kevin (98 - 05) and Jared (06 - 13) just behind him at 8 each.
Quote from: CoryCory on March 26, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
If Steven is still in the band by 2024 he has the longest consecutive tenure at 9 years
I would prefer if it never happens but it will.
It's shit like at the beginning of this that makes me hate Steven in the band! The calls to the audience are so cringeworthy and unnecessary. Honestly i don't think i will ever consider him to be a proper Melvin. Play bass and shut the fuck up. I wish there was never any mic on stage for him - no songs for him to sing either. At this point i think i would say he's my least favourite of ALL their bassists. Far too much goofy antics, dance moves and posturing. His irritating overplaying and poppy influences. PLEASE fire this guy Melvins! Just get rid of him and bring Trevor Dunn in full time. Or better yet get Kevin back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub-FAnqnD04
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 13, 2023, 07:10:44 PM
It's shit like at the beginning of this that makes me hate Steven in the band! The calls to the audience are so cringeworthy and unnecessary. Honestly i don't think i will ever consider him to be a proper Melvin. Play bass and shut the fuck up. I wish there was never any mic on stage for him - no songs for him to sing either. At this point i think i would say he's my least favourite of ALL their bassists. Far too much goofy antics, dance moves and posturing. His irritating overplaying and poppy influences. PLEASE fire this guy Melvins! Just get rid of him and bring Trevor Dunn in full time. Or better yet get Kevin back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub-FAnqnD04
Do you also hate:
Buzzo wearing a MuMu
Buzz and his giant hair
Dale just wearing undies
Dale wearing negligée
Dale wearing a weird outfit
Jared wearing weird stuff
Coady wearing a worksuit
Kevin looking like a weirdo
Kevin licking the stage at the Capitol Hill Block Party during a bass solo
Mark D dressing like a cowboy
Buzz, Dale and Matt dressing in Star Trek uniforms
Jellos singing
The Beatles
KISS
Redd Kross
Fucked up looking kids on album covers
The KISS cover "Love Thing" from Ozma
The fruit basket on the cover of Bullhead
????
The Melvins and Redd Kross are the two greatest bands in the world. They are both pretty silly while being the best at what they do. They have so much in common that it only makes sense for Steven to be in Melvins and for Dale to be in Redd Kross. I cannot wait for the two bands to join forces as MELVINS+KROSS and record "Teen Babes from Montesano".
1) Buzz got hooked on Redd Kross via Teen Babes from Monsanto which featured covers by bands that Buzz was into such as KISS, David Bowie and The Stooges. There was even a weird and obscure, fun cover from the TV show, Bewitched.
2) Melvins love KISS, Redd Kross love KISS
3) Melvins love to play and record tons of cover songs, Redd Kross love to play and record tons of cover songs
4) Melvins covered the Beach Boys, Redd Kross are from Hawthorne just like the Beach Boys
5) Melvins covered the Beach Boys who hung out with Charles Manson, Redd Kross has a song called "Charlie" about Manson, Melvins cover "Charlie" and Redd Kross covered a Charlie Manson song that the Beach Boys also covered.
6) They both have weird names with weird origin stories (Thriftway Boss / Cross used in the Exorcist)
7) The Melvins and Redd Kross have both covered songs by The Beatles
8) The Melvins and Redd Kross were both on Atlantic Records
9) The Melvins were at the Redd Kross show at the Crescent Ballroom in Tacoma Washington in 1987 - where future grunge superstars Soundgarden, Malfunksun and Green River opened.
10) The Melvins "Gluey Porch Treatments" and Redd Kross "Neurotica" are both the two greatest albums of 1987.
11) The Melvins wanted to be on SST Records but never were. Redd Kross never wanted to be on SST Records, but some of their songs were.
12) The Melvins "Stoner Witch" and Redd Kross' "Phaseshifter" are the two greatest albums of the 1990s.
13) Melvins and Redd Kross were both part of the 1980s hardcore scene while neither band fit the hardcore mold.
14) Melvins played with Yoko Ono, Redd Kross side project Tater Tots covered Yoko Ono
15) Melvins and Redd Kross worked with Bill Bartell (Pat Fear) of White Flag and Gasatanka records.
16) Gasatanka records released a 7" box set called "13 Years of Losing Money" with a 7" by Melvins and a 7" by Redd Kross.
17) The Ballroom Blitz Melvins / Redd Kross split!
18) Kurt Cobain loved Redd Kross and Melvins. Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love met at a Redd Kross show, Steven and Jeff McDonald used to prank call Courtney Love, Courtney Love prevented Redd Kross from touring with Nirvana
19) Shirley Temple's daughter was in Melvins, Steven McDonald danced on Shirley Temples handprints at the Mann Chinese theater in a music video he did.
20) Both bands have been going since the members were kids
21) When I saw Dale play in a band called "Really Soon" in 1987, he introduced a song as a Redd Kross cover, but they played "Rain" by the Beatles.
22) Neither band really takes themselves that seriously, they both have great senses of humor
and most importantly -
20) Buzz and Dale are total Redd Kross fans - they "get" the weirdness and the amazingness of Redd Kross. Steven gets all of his campy moves and stage banter comes directly from KISS and other 70s rockers and is a part of the Redd Kross world - Buzz and Dale love KISS and 70s rockers. Steven is adding an element to the Melvins live show that to me is just as out there as a fruit basket on Bullhead. Steven's bass playing is a great combination of Paul McCartney and Gene Simmons - his level of playing and musical knowledge is on par with Mark Deutrom and Trevor Dunn (well, Dunn is kind of a master of bass and music on a godlike level). Steven plays with a pick which I think is super important with Melvins music.
Jeeez......I think the edible kicked in. Went down a Steven McDonald rabbit hole!
I respect your fandom and you do have a good point there. I agree with you that Melvins have pretty much ALWAYS shown their off-beat nature and weirdness whether it was in their dress, music or general attitude. With Steven though the goofiness comes off (at least to me) as a lot more cheesy than anything prior. Yes they often dressed up silly live yet the music still had some menace to it. Think of Kevin doing his little wiggle dance yet still looking mean and like someone you wouldn't want to mess with! Plus his musical contributions were weird and sometimes abrasive. You never get that with Steve. It's just goofy and poppy! I rate Steven as a bass player. I suppose in some ways that is all that one needs to judge these things on. But i can't stand his stage persona. I think it's sometimes a bit telling in interviews too in how Buzz and Dale have far different reference points for what they like than what Steven has. His musical upbringing has been very different and his influences show that. I don't hate Steven as a person. Far from it!! He seems like a super nice, friendly, cool guy. I just don't like him in Melvins. Obviously Buzz and Dale love him. They appreciate everything he brings to the band both in the studio and in a live setting. Yet for myself i just can't enjoy it as much. I don't really like Redd Kross - it's just not to my tastes so obviously i don't like that filtering into Melvins either. The fact that Buzz said Steven had a lot of influence on the writing of Bad Mood Rising is worrying to me.
Steven is doing some weird parts on old songs like Your Blessened, check those high notes he plays at the end of the song, i think i like it
https://youtu.be/XIxG_MLP2r8
Quote from: black stallion on May 14, 2023, 06:26:28 AM
Steven is doing some weird parts on old songs like Your Blessened, check those high notes he plays at the end of the song, i think i like it
I didn't mind those bits. I hadn't really noticed them actually until you mentioned it.
Yeah, just wanna chime in that Steve might be my fave Melvins bass player ever.
He def is the least likely to just follow whatever Buzz is playing, like actually writing these lyrical little parts around the core riffs. It's really the first time it's felt like the Melvs had a third member as opposed to someone who's just holding down The Buzz and Dale Show.
The 'Steve' era of the melvins can be summarized as goofy. The weird, tweedily bass parts, the funny 'are you ready to rock' call outs, the posing, and the skits during shows are unlike any other era. Would I change it? No.
All the ornamental stuff he does seems more and more appropriate with every tour. I don't know how much is his learning melvindom and how much is just me getting used to it.
I really think Buzz and Dale like that schtick. Buzz isn't going to break character, but I think having Steven in the band makes it more fun for them.
His playing is great, though. Every record, every tour I like it more. Though there were already hints of that across Death.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on May 16, 2023, 09:58:53 PM
Buzz isn't going to break character
Character on stage you mean there? I think him on stage is similar to himself off stage. Just a bit more serious and mean looking. Up there getting the job done sort of thing.
Yes, I mean even if he's enjoying himself or amused by Steven, when they play any of those typical pessimistic or stoic Melvins songs like "Never Say You're Sorry" or "Let It All Be" he's going to keep wearing that stonefaced scowl.
after seeing a lot of videos from recent tour i must say this is probably the best moment of the band with this line up
the ability of this man to turn every Melvins song intro into a joke is amazing, we love you Steven! :D
https://youtube.com/shorts/mj6eCAVFazs?feature=shared
"Are you ready to rock Springfield?" :|
He's better than Dr. Rockso! :lol:
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on May 17, 2023, 09:15:18 AM
Yes, I mean even if he's enjoying himself or amused by Steven, when they play any of those typical pessimistic or stoic Melvins songs like "Never Say You're Sorry" or "Let It All Be" he's going to keep wearing that stonefaced scowl.
when i saw them in the ATL with ministry, buzz was smiling watching Steven ham it up. he does love having Steven there.