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MELVINS => Melvins Discussion => Topic started by: coodies on December 01, 2005, 12:07:10 PM

Title: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: coodies on December 01, 2005, 12:07:10 PM
Like Collossus of Destiny, i finallly grown to like this track. Funny how this and Pigs of the Roman Empire (song) are about the same in length :roll:
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: anaconda on December 01, 2005, 12:09:16 PM
This is way better than COD, just my opinion.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Chomas on December 01, 2005, 12:18:11 PM
Id have to agree
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: glen on December 01, 2005, 01:48:28 PM
surprised to hear the positive reviews of "hands first" since Buzz seemed very disappointed with the JOE PRESTON release.   he seems to think Joe "mailed" it in.
I agree though, I like the preston disc although I almost consider it a thrones release to some extent.

I don't know if I would even compare it to COD though. not that I think COD is better or worse, just not comparable.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Joe Deutrom on December 02, 2005, 06:16:38 PM
Preston's "Melvins" solo is great.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: norecess on December 04, 2005, 07:03:57 AM
Quote from: glen on December 01, 2005, 01:48:28 PM
surprised to hear the positive reviews of "hands first" since Buzz seemed very disappointed with the JOE PRESTON release.   he seems to think Joe "mailed" it in.

Yeah but then again, I don't necessarily agree with everything Buzz states.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Chomas on December 05, 2005, 11:17:17 AM
Yeah thats for sure.  Hes pretty much a genius, but from time to time he does contradict himself in interviews whether he realizes it or not.  Obviously the shit talking he did about jello back when, and now he plays with him.  There are other examples though.  Not really on the subject but David Cross talks shit about Jello too - hear it here -> http://nardwuar.com/radio/


Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: norecess on December 05, 2005, 11:58:22 AM
Quote from: change&suffocation on December 05, 2005, 11:17:17 AM
Yeah thats for sure.  Hes pretty much a genius, but from time to time he does contradict himself in interviews whether he realizes it or not.

Yeah but so do I because - as I mentioned before - we are all hypocrites and change so damn fast. At least I do. But even if he doesn't contradict himself, I don't always agree with him, which is fine to me. And to him also :).
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Chomas on December 07, 2005, 12:31:17 PM
word
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: ManWithNoName on December 07, 2005, 01:23:41 PM
There's a difference between contradiction, hypocrisy and change. People's ideas do change and evolve. The simple fact that your idea of something changes doesn't mean you contradict yourself or that you're a hypocrite.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: klump on December 07, 2005, 01:33:56 PM
Quote from: norecess on December 05, 2005, 11:58:22 AM
Quote from: change&suffocation on December 05, 2005, 11:17:17 AM
Yeah thats for sure.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: glen on December 07, 2005, 01:39:47 PM
Quote from: ManWithNoName on December 07, 2005, 01:23:41 PM
There's a difference between contradiction, hypocrisy and change. People's ideas do change and evolve. The simple fact that your idea of something changes doesn't mean you contradict yourself or that you're a hypocrite.

your a wise man noname. I'm going to throw you some karma for that incredibly insightful statement.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Galvano on December 07, 2005, 02:41:50 PM
Quote from: ManWithNoName on December 07, 2005, 01:23:41 PM
There's a difference between contradiction, hypocrisy and change. People's ideas do change and evolve. The simple fact that your idea of something changes doesn't mean you contradict yourself or that you're a hypocrite.

All true, but for a person that thinks loud often and has a lot to say about most things, full on change of opinions is not a very good quality if you mean to stay true.
I mean, the Jello deal is just beyond me.

I think it's easy for hardcore fans to interpret everything their idol say, in a way that it all makes sense no matter how stupid it might be.
I'm not talking about just The Melvins or even music, you have to be able to question them and call out their wrongs, they're only humans.

For obvious reasons this has a way of comming with age.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Eponymous on December 07, 2005, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: ManWithNoName on December 07, 2005, 01:23:41 PM
There's a difference between contradiction, hypocrisy and change. People's ideas do change and evolve. The simple fact that your idea of something changes doesn't mean you contradict yourself or that you're a hypocrite.
It means that you're still thinking.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: Dr Geek on December 07, 2005, 09:40:23 PM
I think the sound of the guitars is really cool, but as an actual song it's not very interesting. I kept waiting for something interesting or different to happen, but nothing ever comes.
Title: Re: HANDS FIRST FLOWER
Post by: coodies on December 09, 2005, 05:04:23 PM
i like it at the 10 min. mark. there's a definate change there. i used to think it was a weak version of "HUNG BUNNY"