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Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 01:26:45 AM
But lets say i made a cassette or put together a CD of Melvins tunes and wrote "Melvins" on the front - could, in some ways, that be considered official too?
No
You're not Brian
Quote from: JUDY on August 11, 2016, 01:38:51 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 01:26:45 AM
But lets say i made a cassette or put together a CD of Melvins tunes and wrote "Melvins" on the front - could, in some ways, that be considered official too?
No
You're not Brian
:lol:
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 01:26:45 AM
Would this be classed as an official Melvins release then? Im slightly confused about that. It made me wonder about what we do deem to be "official" as regards what bands put out. Obviously i think this applies more to a band like Melvins because there is so much with their name on out there. But lets say i made a cassette or put together a CD of Melvins tunes and wrote "Melvins" on the front - could, in some ways, that be considered official too? I guess what im saying is - what are the characteristics that make something official? Is it the acceptance of the band themselves to a release or the quantity of the run produced or maybe the label which is producing the item whatever it may be?
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
I don't own a tape deck but damn they look so nice I almost want to get one of those lime green ones but I know if I go down that route it won't end with all the tapes put out by synthwave artists these days as well.
Congratulations to all involved they look fantastic!
Quote from: Bigval on August 11, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
MELVINS will be selling them on tour. that's official enough for me.
I'd say as far as the Melvins go their discography gives a good idea of what's official and not.
There's a bunch of stuff that came out a year ago that said "Melvins" on it, but more specifically, it said "A Melvins Tale" and also "Colossus Of Destiny" on it. I took this into account for about a split second and promptly ordered 5 pieces (not including the film). You see how that works? :wink:
*of course I mean these are band approved offerings, unlike your filthy Electroretard vinyl, Bub. :disagree:
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Like the 'Your Choice Live' release. I often forget that it wasn't a "proper" Melvins record.
It is to me. They were paid for it and agreed to have it released.
But maybe the guy who paid for it wasn't named BrIIIIIIIan. :lol:
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: Bigval on August 11, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
Yes i suppose the royalties aspect is another valid instance of making something official. As for the permission i was going to agree but then i thought about the Colossus Of Destiny Melvins film. The band support it and promote it in some respects but it still isn't what we would deem as an "official" film. The band slightly (only slightly) distance themselves from it. So i do think this idea of what is or isn't official is a really interesting proposition. At least to me anyway. Many bands are not difficult to figure out the boundaries where something is direct from the band but Melvins are something of an oddity in standing out in this way of what is "Melvins". Like the 'Your Choice Live' release. I often forget that it wasn't a "proper" Melvins record.
I consider that COD documentary official not only have the band given it's release their blessing but like you said actively promote it on FB.
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: Bigval on August 11, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
Like the 'Your Choice Live' release. I often forget that it wasn't a "proper" Melvins record.
ah! that's easily the best Melvins live record
Just on this I remember once buying a dvd documentary of Green Day called Pogo Paradise. Anyway the whole documentary had zero involvement from GD no interviews with any of them just various people that knew them before they got popular talking about them and the music throughout was a generic skate punk band because obviously they didn't have the rights to use GD's music in it either.
I bought it a long time ago and remember feeling so cheated it clearly wasn't an official release. A lot of bands when they reach a certain level of popularity get shitty totally unauthorized doco's made about them.
Quote from: black stallion on August 12, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: Bigval on August 11, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
Like the 'Your Choice Live' release. I often forget that it wasn't a "proper" Melvins record.
ah! that's easily the best Melvins live record
indeed. The first bootleg i ever bought.
Quote from: FartLips on August 12, 2016, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: black stallion on August 12, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: Bigval on August 11, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
Like the 'Your Choice Live' release. I often forget that it wasn't a "proper" Melvins record.
ah! that's easily the best Melvins live record
indeed. The first bootleg i ever bought.
great!
Quote from: black stallion on August 13, 2016, 05:52:29 AM
Quote from: FartLips on August 12, 2016, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: black stallion on August 12, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 11, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: Bigval on August 11, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
I would've thought something only becomes 'official' when you either pay the band royalties or at the very least get their permission.
Like the 'Your Choice Live' release. I often forget that it wasn't a "proper" Melvins record.
ah! that's easily the best Melvins live record
indeed. The first bootleg i ever bought.
great!
i need to post a pic of it. Ive never seen the same back layout as the others ive seen.
Quote from: ))))(((( on August 23, 2016, 03:36:59 AM
Another thought i've had about this, and i know many here might disagree, is that to me it's only something "Melvins" if it's a musical commodity - vinyl, CD's, cassettes etc. I don't personally see shirts and toys and posters or other such releases as band related. I mean they ARE but to me they are more periphery. Not tangible Melvins artifacts. Like that little book (not Neither Here Nor There) that was put out years ago.
Aren't you just marginalizing their status as artists by saying that? They dont just do music, ya know.
Its merch, dude. But the music is merch too. Money in dem dar arts. I think this is just you being you, satanic advocate.
more $$$ made on shirts... limited editions... art.... pretty much anything else on the merch table that says "MELVINS" on it then any record they've released in the last 10+ years. ...I'd be willing to bet my bippy.
If they're PT Barnum I'm a newborn bouncing baby boy.
Never bet your bippy, you never know when you'll need one.
The savage bippy at that!