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I was just listening to the end of Cow and I didn't want it to ever end. This got me thinking how much I would enjoy an album full of just him going off like that. I'd blast it everywhere, through the subwoofers, while showering, walking to my mailbox. It would be wonderful. What do you think?

ever heard of Drumb?

:D love the end of that song too!guess he already recorded something similar on Drumb,anyway a full lenght album would be fuckin great!

(http://www.taxi-driver.it/img/copertine/drumb.jpg)

Look up his contribution to the Flyin Traps compilation called Vomit & Orange Juice

http://www.amazon.com/Flyin-Traps-Stereo-Various-Artists/dp/B000000OK6

how about a dale and coady duet album?

although I'd prefer dale solo.   

but imagine that,  a roughly 45 minute, 12 (or so) track album of dale and coady playing off each other. 

oooh, the goosebumps.

When I heard Cow for the first time I was completely blown away..

A full length Dale solo drumming album would be awesome. Pure drumming. Plus a couple of Coady and Dale drum duel tracks.  Oh yeah..

I'd prefer a Dale/Buzz on bass album, just to have some structre to it.

I think I'd just appreciate his drumming more that way. What Dale does with a rhytjm compared to what any other drummer would make of it, is beyond me. There just has to be *something* he can talk to, you know? On the other side, that can be something unhearable too, like his own demons on Spread Eagle Beagle for example :D It sounds like a man fighting in the dark.

I still think this album of Haruki Murakami's The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles captures my feelings about Dale on Spread Eagle Beagle on Houdini 2005 best:

(http://www.somethingels.net/inspiration/images/002/murakami.jpg)

Quote from: glen on August 29, 2008, 11:14:44 AM
ever heard of Drumb?

Ah, hadn't heard of this before, just looked it up. I'll have to find it somewhere. A full length would be great though.

Quote from: norecess on August 29, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
Look up his contribution to the Flyin Traps compilation called Vomit & Orange Juice

http://www.amazon.com/Flyin-Traps-Stereo-Various-Artists/dp/B000000OK6

That looks really cool, I'll check it out. Thanks.

Quote from: norecess on August 29, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
I'd prefer a Dale/Buzz on bass album, just to have some structre to it.

I think I'd just appreciate his drumming more that way. What Dale does with a rhytjm compared to what any other drummer would make of it, is beyond me. There just has to be *something* he can talk to, you know? On the other side, that can be something unhearable too, like his own demons on Spread Eagle Beagle for example :D It sounds like a man fighting in the dark.

I still think this album of Haruki Murakami's The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles captures my feelings about Dale on Spread Eagle Beagle on Houdini 2005 best:

(http://www.somethingels.net/inspiration/images/002/murakami.jpg)

I see what you're saying. You might not realize how awesome a certain rhythm is until you hear a riff go with it. I really like the idea of something like the end of cow for a while album though.

Spread Eagle Beagle is too, but I think an album full of the more rocking drumming would be glorious.

Quote from: norecess on August 29, 2008, 11:37:32 AM

I still think this album of Haruki Murakami's The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles captures my feelings about Dale on Spread Eagle Beagle on Houdini 2005 best:

never heard of that album before,i'll check it out.speaking of Spread Eagle Beagle on Houdini 2005, agreed with you,let me just add Lustmord or Toshi (know Lustmord played extra percussion,but don't know who made the mix) studio's work on that track is amazing

Why the hell did I type 'album'? I meant to write cover, it's a book.

A very good book too.

I'm reading it right now. Into the second part now, Okada just went down into the dried out well.

Liking it a lot more than dance, dance, dance.

Quote from: norecess on August 29, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
Look up his contribution to the Flyin Traps compilation called Vomit & Orange Juice

http://www.amazon.com/Flyin-Traps-Stereo-Various-Artists/dp/B000000OK6

the song "vomit & orange juice" on this compilation is the same as the drumb 7"

No more than I'd want an all Buzz guitar album.

It's like pizza. Sure mozarella is ok alone in small doses (in this case, Dale's solo on the end of Cow, Divorced) and I guess sauce tastes good with spaghetti instead of pizza (fantomas) but in the end, only the combination of mozarella, sauce and whatever type of bread will result in the delciousness of pizza, that cannot be matched.

I second the Buzz on bass Dale on drums. I'd wager that Buzz wouldn't want to seem like he was apeing Big Business, but I think it'd be cool. His guitar work has always been on the rhythmic, heavy end.

Buzz on bass would be very cool.I've seen him play an entire set playing bass and it was very cool.

I'd LOOOVVVEEEE a Dale vs. Cody album much like the old Gene Krupa vs. Buddy Rich records. (if you've never heard 'em check them out, amazing stuff!).....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk

There should be some label with an album series that pits various drummers together in a format like that.

Dale vs Coady
Brian Chippendale (Lightning Bolt) Vs Zach Hill
Dave Lombardo vs Terry Bozzio

hell, that series could go on forever.

Quote from: bathroom creep on August 29, 2008, 11:27:06 AM
When I heard Cow for the first time I was completely blown away..

I was living with this guy when I first moved to Melbourne and played Bullhead one night as we were getting stoned. At the end of cow my housemate was like: "fuck, that's a long drum solo! is it ever gonna end?" of course if it was up to me it could have gone on forever.

I'd love a dub album with Dale, Kevin, and Buzz.

Quote from: turnacus on August 29, 2008, 10:41:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk

that was cool!

One of my favorite Dutch drummers, the man is simply a fenomenon. Played with the likes of Eric Dolphy, Ornette Coleman, Anthony Braxton, Sonny Rollins, but is still going strong, and has also done many collaborations with The Ex. Here is an improv with Misha Mengelberg on piano:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0A8ekpTgng

I remember on the Stag tour Dale, Buzz and Mark swithced instuments an played 2 amazing sets!!!

Quote from: Dudbean on August 30, 2008, 09:01:03 PM

Quote from: norecess on August 30, 2008, 11:03:08 AM
One of my favorite Dutch drummers, the man is simply a fenomenon. Played with the likes of Eric Dolphy, Ornette Coleman, Anthony Braxton, Sonny Rollins, but is still going strong, and has also done many collaborations with The Ex. Here is an improv with Misha Mengelberg on piano:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0A8ekpTgng

Weeeeeird coincidence!! I've had two Han Bennink postcards for about 9 or 10 years and I just found them in the house the other day. One of them has him sitting in a chair playing the wooden clogs on his feet. They were given to me be a guy I used to know, a really cool music nut who owned a record store and was friends with a bunch of those Dutch jazz guys. He'd stay with them when he went to Holland and they stayed with him when they came to Canada.  He sort of took note of the stuff I was buying, and once I'd gone through all of his Beefheart albums he said, "You know you're ready for jazz now, right?" I didn't know about anything outside of rock music (aside from the weirdness of Zappa and Beefheart), so it took some convincing, but he introduced me to Miles Davis first, then some Dutch albums with Michael Vatcher (amazing percussionist), Michael Moore, Lindsay Horner, Misha Mendelberg, etc. Anyway, that's off topic rambling, but Han Bennink and other Dutch musicians played a major role in opening my mind to a whole new world of music, so I had to comment on it.

Ha, I first learned about Bennink through Dutch television. There was a program on tv about The Ex who were playing in Ethiopia, and they had brought Han Bennink with them - a crazy old guy, so it seemed. Then when he started to play, it was unbelievable! So much feeling for rhythm, and all the people who were there loved it, which was beautiful. The guy plays at everything he can find, he often experiments with several objects available in the place where he's playing, and he likes to do these crazy shifts with his elbows.

What I also like about him is that he's pretty much self-taught, while a lot of 'educated' jazz players have to play at the top of their abilities to keep up with him, while the people from The Ex are so used to that sort of open-mind approach, that they seem to have less problems playing with people like him.

Quote from: Dudbean on August 30, 2008, 09:01:03 PM

Quote from: norecess on August 30, 2008, 11:03:08 AM
One of my favorite Dutch drummers, the man is simply a fenomenon. Played with the likes of Eric Dolphy, Ornette Coleman, Anthony Braxton, Sonny Rollins, but is still going strong, and has also done many collaborations with The Ex. Here is an improv with Misha Mengelberg on piano:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0A8ekpTgng

On topic: Does anyone else find the drum solo on Cow to be funny? Maybe just because it's so fucking weird -- another one of those "nobody else does this kind of shit" things. I can see how someone might find it to be "too simple" compared to something like a Neil Peart/Bill Bruford type of thing, but they'd be wrong. It's just a totally different kind of complexity. Fuck, I'm preaching about Dale again. Long, stressful day at work + a few wobbly pops = a Crover speech.

Dale is good. The end.

Crover's drumming never seemed to me so "simple" (remember a Dave Lombardo interview where he talks about how difficult was for him to learn that crazy drumming) and guess simple doesn't mean bad.in my opinion for a musician isn't so important to play simple or not,what i like in a musician is imagination first and about that Crover is a genius.he loves to play simple just as Buzz doesn't like to play guitar solos.besides that,Crover is technically monstrous and you can easily notice that listening to him covering other songs.have you ever listened to the original Neal Smith's drumming on the Halo Of Flies song? :)...Crover plays every drum beat of that song like Neal Smith.
i have a strong feeling if we could see a drummer like Bill Bruford play Crover's stuff and vice versa we would have great surpises :)

I've just always admired how versatile he is. Just listening to the oddball heavy drumming from Bullhead, to more oddball drumming on Stag, then the country stuff on Crybaby, then the quieter music on Bootlicker etc...etc...etc......then there's Specimen which blows my mind everytime I hear it.

Without Crover, Melvins....well let's not think about that.

 Han Bennink is incredible. I saw him earlier this year, just him and Brotzmann in a very small theater. I knew of Brotzmann through from the Chicago Tentet & Last Exit. That was my first exposure to Bennink. I was totally blown away by his approach. Another younger guy who's from that school of players who rules is Paal Nilsson-Love.

Next week Saturday I'm planning to see:

PETER BROTZMANN, TOSHINORI KONDO, MASSIMO PUPILLO, PAAL NILSSEN-LOVE

A bit pricey, but it should be good.

A few other drummers I really like:

Hamid Drake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Drake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Drake)

Mike Reed:  http://www.mikereedmusic.com (http://www.mikereedmusic.com)
Wednesday, September 3, 2008 9:00 pm
NEWS - Eric Boeren, Cor Fuhler, Nate Mcbride & Mike Reed
The Bimhuis, Amsterdam

Joey BAron

Ed Blackwell

Tim Daisy

Quote from: ___-----_____------_____ on August 31, 2008, 11:44:17 AM
Mike Reed:  http://www.mikereedmusic.com (http://www.mikereedmusic.com)
Wednesday, September 3, 2008 9:00 pm
NEWS - Eric Boeren, Cor Fuhler, Nate Mcbride & Mike Reed
The Bimhuis, Amsterdam

Won't be able to make it unfortunately.

 :shock: