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Title: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Michael on October 09, 2008, 04:27:13 PM
From MLB.com

Melvins frontman rocks stat geek cred
Every day is 'Gameday' for King Buzzo

Buzz Osborne can only laugh when recounting the rare privilege of being spotted by Minnesota Twins broadcasters in the Metrodome stands because of his outrageous signature hair.

Naturally, the commentators had never heard of Osborne or his legendary underground metal band, the Melvins, so they only noticed former Twins slugger Kent Hrbek, who was sitting a few seats away, and the "weird guy."

"I thought it was good," says Osborne, the lead singer, guitarist and songwriter for the Melvins, who have been playing since they formed in Aberdeen, Wash., in the early 1980s. "I'm all about the media. Any chance for me to get on TV, I'll take it. Of course, the guys calling the game didn't have much interest in me. But that's OK."

The more Osborne tours, the more likely it'll be that he'll pop up on baseball broadcasts.

The singer, also known as "King Buzzo" to his legion of fans, says he's become obsessed with baseball in the last few years.

"A friend of mine, Dan Raymond, who knows an astonishing amount about baseball, got me heavily into it," he says. "It helps that I totally understood the game from playing as a kid, but one day about five years ago I just started realizing that I was massively into this and took it from there."

He is constantly on his laptop watching Major League games via MLB.com's Gameday feature, and he's not ashamed to admit that he's a bit of a stat geek, too.

"Sabermetrics have changed the whole way I look at baseball," he says. "Some people think it's taking away the human element a little too much, but I think they're onto something.

"The things I'm really interested in are things like how much walks count. That's incredibly important, and that's why the book 'Moneyball' is so good. But in my humble opinion, (Oakland A's general manager Billy) Beane isn't doing so great right now. I mean, building a team is great and loading up on young talent is important, but aren't they supposed to win?"

Yes, King Buzzo has his opinions, but when it comes to rooting for a team, he's relatively impartial. He lives in Los Angeles and probably goes to Dodger Stadium more than any other ballpark because of its convenient location, but he doesn't really have his own team to root for.

"One of his quirks that bothers people is that he loves all baseball," says Greg Werckman of Ipecac Recordings, which released the Melvins' latest album, Nude With Boots.

"If you push him, he might cop to being a Dodger fan, but he does not understand those of us that hate certain teams. He likes them all! He gets as excited for the opposing teams as he does for the home team. I am an A's season ticket holder and I brought him to a game a couple years ago against the Twins, and he said, 'Don't you love Torii Hunter?' And I said, 'No! He kills us.' He just does not feel that way. Very interesting."

Equally interesting are some of King Buzzo's unique takes on some controversial issues in the game.

Osborne, for example, loves the fact that his hardball heroes make millions upon millions.

"I'm into the high salaries," he says. "If people are going to games, players should get the money. I think teams should have to spend more money on payroll than a lot of them do. I also think the Tampa Bay Rays should move to Santa Monica. Then I could get to three games a week."

And if the Melvins ever get asked to play the National Anthem at a ballpark, they're ready.

While Osborne says he won't "hold (his) breath" waiting for such an invitation from the Dodgers or even a Minor League team, he says the band has been playing the "Star-Spangled Banner" during their current tour, although their rendition isn't exactly traditional.

"Confusing is the best way to describe it," he says. "It's not a diss. It's respectful. It's just a more neutral version of it, I guess."

Osborne also is hardly neutral when it comes to assessing the merits of live baseball vs. the televised game.

"It's like the difference between sugarless chocolate cake and real chocolate cake," he says. "On TV, you can't see the player shifts, what the coaches are doing, really most of the stuff that's really important. I mean, I'll still watch games on TV, but there's nothing like live baseball.

"It's a chess match. And I'm completely into the idea that managers and coaches wear the same uniforms as the players. That shows you how much of a team sport it is. It's awesome."

Osborne likens the travails of a baseball team over a 162-game season to what he and the Melvins have been doing for a good portion of the last three decades.

"We've been playing a long time," he says. "We figured out we've played close to 2,000 shows, and not all of them are going to be good. And that's the way it works. You get out there and you do what you have to.

"That's what's good about baseball. It's such a long season, and even the best teams are going to lose more than 60 games. It's very human that way."

Osborne picks the nearby Angels to win the World Series this year and says their outfielder, Vladimir Guerrero, is his favorite player to watch.

"I've never seen that guy when he wasn't smiling," Osborne says. "And can you blame him? How could he possibly be happier? He's playing baseball for a living."

But even though King Buzzo loves the game and likes the Angels and wishes he could hit like Vlad, one thing you won't see him in is a baseball cap. Not on that head.

"I'm not real hat-friendly," he says with a laugh. "Believe it or not."
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: ManWithNoName on October 09, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
Vlad rules!
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: grays harbor mafia on October 09, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
Awesome post michael thanks!!!
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Buick GN on October 09, 2008, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: grays harbor mafia on October 09, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
Awesome post michael thanks!!!
Agreed.

(Beane is rebuilding..give us two years)

:D
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: grays harbor mafia on October 09, 2008, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Buick GN on October 09, 2008, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: grays harbor mafia on October 09, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
Awesome post michael thanks!!!
Agreed.

(Beane is rebuilding..give us two years)

:D
Im sick of hearing about how beane failed this year ..But the system works, obviously.
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: cara on October 09, 2008, 07:47:43 PM
 "I'm all about the media. Any chance for me to get on TV, I'll take it. Of course, the guys calling the game didn't have much interest in me. But that's OK."

hah. Buzzo rules.
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Buick GN on October 09, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: grays harbor mafia on October 09, 2008, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Buick GN on October 09, 2008, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: grays harbor mafia on October 09, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
Awesome post michael thanks!!!
Agreed.

(Beane is rebuilding..give us two years)

:D
Im sick of hearing about how beane failed this year ..But the system works, obviously.
I don't think he failed at all. Shit, we fought LAA back and forth..for first place, up until the All-Star break..we were like only 4 back.

Rich Harden will break.(mark my words) He's the 'glass jaw Joe' of MLB, or glass shoulder Rich, if you will. We'll be stout in 2 years..at the top of the AL West.

Look at the Anaslime Anals payroll from this year: $119,216,333 (yes, that's Million) ..and the fuckers can't even make it past the first round of play-offs.

Look at the A's payroll this year..$47,967,126. The A's ranked 28th out of 30 teams in money spent. The Angels had the 6th highest payroll out of 30 teams.

The Tigers had the 2nd highest payroll.($138,685,197)   :shock: ..and the M's had the 6th highest payroll.($117,993,982 )



Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: GrimReaper on October 09, 2008, 08:25:25 PM

I would say it all started at the Capital Hill Block party. See the World According to King Buzzo.

GrimReaper Fact:

Name the only sport where the defence controls the ball?

Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: GrimReaper on October 09, 2008, 08:27:41 PM
 

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From the Capitol Hill Block Party

July 26, 2004

Melvins closed the Party playing Sunday 8:30 Pm
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Buick GN on October 09, 2008, 08:29:20 PM
Osborne picks the nearby Angels to win the World Series this year and says their outfielder, Vladimir Guerrero, is his favorite player to watch.

"I've never seen that guy when he wasn't smiling," Osborne says. "And can you blame him? How could he possibly be happier? He's playing baseball for a living."

About Vlad smiling. I just checked my LAA vs OAK photos that I snapped this summer. I took 7 individual photos of Vladdy, and in every photo Vlad is smiling.  8)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/BuickGN/Oakland%20vs%20LAA%20-%20Jun%202008/IMG_0050.jpg)


Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: ManWithNoName on October 11, 2008, 09:42:26 PM
the man loves the game of baseball! Too bad his post-season numbers are ugly.
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: GrimReaper on October 13, 2008, 06:09:44 AM

Did anyone see the Dodgers vs. Phillies fight?

Moyer had a horrible game.
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Eye in Triangle on October 13, 2008, 08:20:30 AM
I enjoyed that interview, and I don't know anything about baseball other than the fact that it involves a bat, a ball, and uniforms that look like pyjamas.
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Buick GN on October 13, 2008, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on October 13, 2008, 06:09:44 AM

Did anyone see the Dodgers vs. Phillies fight?

Moyer had a horrible game.
I saw a couple of clips on SportsCenter. Moyer got rocked..pulled after 1.5 
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: glen on October 13, 2008, 12:16:42 PM
the dodgers live!

somewhere buzz, dale and toshi are still clinging to world series hope.

ya think buzz will attend a playoff game?
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: chrons on October 15, 2008, 12:59:22 AM
Moyer is a pretty terrible pitcher.. why they would have started him I dunno... I saw a mariners/tigers game 8 years ago.. moyer started for the M's. Tigers loaded the bases in the top of the 1st and Juan Gonzalez pokes a grand salami to deep left. That was a treat to see... Tigers won it 14 - 4
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: Buick GN on October 19, 2008, 02:00:09 PM
Quote from: glen on October 13, 2008, 12:16:42 PM
ya think buzz will attend a playoff game?
I recently spotted this on teh interwebz. (myspace)

Oct 16 2008 5:41 PM

I went to the Dodger game last.
Up on the Jumbotron was BUZZ!
Title: Re: Sabermetrics, the Dodgers and the National Anthem: Buzz on Baseball
Post by: GrimReaper on October 26, 2008, 12:52:38 AM

Moyer pitched into the 7th inning in tonights game (game 3 of World Series). Not a bad game for him.