Chicken Switch! Yes, Chicken Switch.
7.8 Chicken Switch
7.3 Never Breathe What You Can't See
7.3 A Senile Animal
7.0 Nude With Boots
6.7 The Crybaby
5.7 Houdini Live
5.6 Hostile Ambient Takeover
5.3 Mangled Demos from 1983
4.9 Millennium Monsterwork
I'm not angry, just fascinated.
Those dorks don't know anything about music.
If they did, they would know that HAT is the pinnacle of modern rock music.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on February 08, 2010, 06:39:02 PM
Those dorks don't know anything about music.
If they did, they would know that HAT is the pinnacle of modern rock music.
It didn't even make the top 5. You gotta be kidding me.
Quote from: rictus on February 08, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: ManWithNoName on February 08, 2010, 06:39:02 PM
Those dorks don't know anything about music.
If they did, they would know that HAT is the pinnacle of modern rock music.
It didn't even make the top 5. You gotta be kidding me.
We all know that H.A.T. is a mediocre album that the fans try to forget about. Also, I'm glad Kevin is gone. His dance was stupid.
Oh no..
Should Millenium Monsterwork even be on that list since it mostly Mike Patton's vocals?
(http://www.thisdayinrock.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/leif-garrett-then-and-now.jpg)
Breaking News! Leif Garrett busted for heroin possession!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8497527.stm
The list is a trolljob.
That said, Houdini Live is one of their most underrated of the last 10 years.
No. It's not a Melvins album.
In no way is it a Melvins album. It's an idea.
It's something that if we had a band and many decent/moderate musicians wanted to remix it, we'd say yes.
But it's NOT an original Melvins release, therefore it has no business on this list.
Millenium should not be on the list either.
By the way, where is the link to this 'list'?
Maybe a vote amongst us needs to be taken.
Quote from: Idlehanz on February 08, 2010, 10:06:16 PM
No. It's not a Melvins album.
In no way is it a Melvins album. It's an idea.
It's something that if we had a band and many decent/moderate musicians wanted to remix it, we'd say yes.
But it's NOT an original Melvins release, therefore it has no business on this list.
Millenium should not be on the list either.
By the way, where is the link to this 'list'?
Maybe a vote amongst us needs to be taken.
Well, there is no "list". I took all the scores of every Melvins album they reviewed in the past decade (ie every Melvins album they have reviewed) and noticed that Chicken Switch had the highest score. My guess is it got a high score because you haven't heard of the remixers.
Is it a Melvins album? I'd say yes. It was their idea to remix entire albums, they choose the people who remixed it, and they gave the green light to release it. It's even on Ipecac and was promoted by them. Compare that to the tribute album which the Melvins had nothing to do with.
My guess would be that Chickenswitch got such a high score because Bitchdork was trying to kiss the ass of all the remixers... Still, HAT with such a low score is a bit confusing. I can't say I'm surprised though from that mediocre website.
your list
garbage in + garbage out= :bs:
Clearly taking the piss here.
So what you're really trying to say is that their "highest" "rated" "album" is "actually" ASA..
This only proves that the only opinion that matters when it comes to music is one's own. To call Chicken Switch their best record is to say Turbo is Judas Priests' best record.
I just remembered I made this list awhile back. Here's the updated version:
7.8 Chicken Switch
7.3 Never Breathe What You Can't See
7.3 A Senile Animal
7.0 Nude With Boots
6.7 The Crybaby
6.7 Freak Puke
6.5 Everybody Loves Sausages
6.1 Hold It In
5.7 Houdini Live
5.6 Hostile Ambient Takeover
5.3 Mangled Demos from 1983
5.2 The Bride Screamed Murder
4.9 Millennium Monsterwork
Maybe one day those Melvins will finally top their masterpiece Chicken Switch!
The only one on that list that kinda makes sense is Millennium Monsterwork
If I were to have to give a rating for Hold it in (based on just 2.5 listens) I'd say it would be in the 8.6 range.
Great album, lots of diversity and a couple of whoa is this the Melvins kind of moments.
I'd love to know the process in getting the rating down to a decibel rating that isn't going to come off as subjective wankery.
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on October 17, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
I'd love to know the process in getting the rating down to a decibel rating that isn't going to come off as subjective wankery.
You've changed my mind it is definitely an 8.7 and not an 8.6 as previously stated :lol:
This is interesting because I knew this before ever seeing this thread.
I was going through Pitchfork a few months ago, and for whatever reason decided to look them up.
It forced me to listen to Chicken Switch.
It's not my favorite, with a few redeeming moments, but it's not the best of the Melvs.
And having read the review, it's only rated so high because nobody knows the remixers.
That much is true. It's hipster pathos bullshit.
Those are the actual scores. It surprised me too.
Too funny! Thanks for helping me to see through the cranium of the hipster reviewer,
and learn what's really important (to them (and not us)). =D>
Come to think about it a seperate post/thread on Decibel Magazine's Melvins ratings would be good fun too. Though it'd be harder since it'd involve sifting through a ton of Decibel Magazines.
The ones I remember or recall as best as I can:
Everybody Loves Sausages - 7
Freak Puke - 6
The Bride Screamed Murder - 5
Nude With Boots - 6 (?)
Chicken Switch - 5 (?)
7.8 Chicken Switch
7.3 Never Breathe What You Can't See
7.3 A Senile Animal
7.0 Nude With Boots
7.0 Three Men and a Baby
6.7 The Crybaby
6.7 Freak Puke
6.5 Everybody Loves Sausages
6.1 Hold It In
5.7 Houdini Live
5.6 Hostile Ambient Takeover
5.3 Mangled Demos from 1983
5.2 The Bride Screamed Murder
4.9 Millennium Monsterwork
Somehow I had a feeling those hipsters would be more generous because Mike Kunka was on the album. I guarantee you they would have not rated it as high if his name wasn't on it.
One day they'll top Chicken Switch! It's clearly everyone's favorite Melvins record of the past 15 years. God I'm so thankful we have Pitchfork for such great reviews!
Surprise surprise, Pitchfork gave three men and a baby a 7.0...
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21538-three-men-and-a-baby/
Someone else mentioned this on the forum;
QuoteBut the dated production works as an asset, distinguishing Three Men and a Baby from the increasingly prolific Melvins' recent output.
Thought this was an interesting line as well
Quotethere's just no substitute for the intangible magic of a band growing into its strengths while still brimming with youthful passion.
Sums up the trilogy and even HAT period for me.
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 31, 2016, 02:26:19 PM
What about Basses Loaded. An appearance by Krist will surely add a few points!
It'll probably get a 6.1 with the reviewer moaning the Krist wasn't on the whole album.
Quote from: (the) Razor on April 01, 2016, 02:41:42 AM
Someone else mentioned this on the forum;
QuoteBut the dated production works as an asset, distinguishing Three Men and a Baby from the increasingly prolific Melvins' recent output.
i think it sounds better than the recent output.
Wasn't a terrible review. That being said, any publication that gives HAT a 5.6 should not be taken seriously when it comes to reviewing Melvins (or anyone else's) albums. Is Pitchfork still a big thing?
I still look at Btichpork every day just because the sheer number of reviews the publish leads to me finding out about a new band at least once a week. I rarely read the actual reviews and when I do I never finish them.
Quote from: EGO the Living Planet on April 05, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
I still look at Btichpork every day just because the sheer number of reviews the publish leads to me finding out about a new band at least once a week. I rarely read the actual reviews and when I do I never finish them.
Could you please pass some of that knowledge along to us here? New thread or what's everybody listening to?
7.8 Chicken Switch
7.3 Never Breathe What You Can't See
7.3 A Senile Animal
7.0 Nude With Boots
7.0 Three Men and a Baby
6.7 The Crybaby
6.7 Freak Puke
6.5 Everybody Loves Sausages
6.1 Hold It In
5.7 Houdini Live
5.6 Hostile Ambient Takeover
5.5 Basses Loaded
5.3 Mangled Demos from 1983
5.2 The Bride Screamed Murder
4.9 Millennium Monsterwork
Quote from: LuckMach3 on April 01, 2016, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 31, 2016, 02:26:19 PM
What about Basses Loaded. An appearance by Krist will surely add a few points!
It'll probably get a 6.1 with the reviewer moaning the Krist wasn't on the whole album.
Wow, I was pretty close! I made that guess back before I had even heard the album! :lol:
I stopped reading the review after reading the first sentence which implied for the first time ever The Melvins ran out of energy. Strange considering they already said Houdini live was limp wristed and they gave a lower score to Bride Screamed Murder.
I did do a quick search for Novoselic's names and sure enough found the line, "Only the warped psychedelia of "Maybe I Am Amused," which features Nirvana's Krist Novoselic, legitimately goes down avenues the band hasn't explored before." I came pretty close with that prediction too!
I don't want to link to the review and give them more traffic. Most fans think it's great! 8)
This guy must be full of positives to give a score like 5.5, he barely looks at the meat of the album.
like seriously, Captain Comedown and War Pussy get no mention and those two songs alone at least give the album at least a 6.
This review leaves me scratching my head....
Someone posted this on Facebook. :lol:
http://www.theonion.com/article/pitchfork-gives-music-68-2278 (http://www.theonion.com/article/pitchfork-gives-music-68-2278)
I like how the pitchfork review only gets to the 2nd and 3rd sentence before contradicting itself, directly.
"Since their debut Gluey Porch Treatments almost three decades ago, the Melvins have barely wavered from the lumbering adamantine groove that made them so hugely influential on countless grunge, sludge, and alt-metal acts. At the same time, the group's nucleus, frontman Buzz Osborne and drummer Dale Crover, have jumped at opportunities to experiment for the better part of their history. "
Quote from: LuckMach3 on June 06, 2016, 01:16:10 AM
Wow, I was pretty close! I made that guess back before I had even heard the album! :lol:
I stopped reading the review after reading the first sentence which implied for the first time ever The Melvins ran out of energy. Strange considering they already said Houdini live was limp wristed and they gave a lower score to Bride Screamed Murder.
I did do a quick search for Novoselic's names and sure enough found the line, "Only the warped psychedelia of "Maybe I Am Amused," which features Nirvana's Krist Novoselic, legitimately goes down avenues the band hasn't explored before." I came pretty close with that prediction too!
I don't want to link to the review and give them more traffic. Most fans think it's great! 8)
Eh, screw them. They have the fatal flaw of reviewing albums on what they want them to sound like, as opposed to reviewing what they actually do sound like.
:lol:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21542-the-life-of-pablo/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21542-the-life-of-pablo/)
Quote from: (PAUL) on June 06, 2016, 05:33:07 PM
Eh, screw them. They have the fatal flaw of reviewing albums on what they want them to sound like, as opposed to reviewing what they actually do sound like.
I don't know how true it still is because I basically stopped reading but I used to say that they reviewed how cool a record is rather than how good.
Quote from: meezer on June 06, 2016, 10:01:13 PM
:lol:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21542-the-life-of-pablo/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21542-the-life-of-pablo/)
I stopped after the first sentence, "Pablo Picasso and Kanye West share many qualities..."
7.8 Chicken Switch
7.7 Crystal Fairy - Crystal Fairy
7.3 Never Breathe What You Can't See
7.3 A Senile Animal
7.0 Nude With Boots
7.0 Three Men and a Baby
7.0 Dale Crover - The Fickle Finger of Fate
6.7 The Crybaby
6.7 Freak Puke
6.6 A Walk With Love and Death
6.5 Everybody Loves Sausages
6.1 Hold It In
5.7 Houdini Live
5.6 Hostile Ambient Takeover
5.5 Basses Loaded
5.3 Mangled Demos from 1983
5.2 The Bride Screamed Murder
4.9 Millennium Monsterwork
I agree that most recent review is insanely harsh, even if I somehow wasn't a diehard fan. I honestly wondered if they were even going to review it at all up to this point, really it'd have been better off not doing one at all.
Quote from: Captain CoryCory on August 14, 2017, 11:36:05 AM
I agree that most recent review is insanely harsh, even if I somehow wasn't a diehard fan. I honestly wondered if they were even going to review it at all up to this point, really it'd have been better off not doing one at all.
The Dale review seemed especially mean to me. I do wonder what is the cause of the grudge.
Buzz throws a nice little jab right back at Pitchfork here...
"Odds and Sods: Still one of my favorites from one of my favorite bands. A very strange album. I think it stands as the best pop-art record ever made. It would be interesting to hand a copy of Odds and Sods to any of the reviewers at Pitchfork and tell them it was a new album from an unknown band. I guarantee they'd call it gimmicky and give it a shitty review ... Unless of course it was the new Radiohead record, then they'd declare it the greatest album of all time."
https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/know-your-product/Content?oid=11331842 (https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/know-your-product/Content?oid=11331842)
Wow, I'm a longtime Who fan, and I think Odds & Sods is a snoozefest. Basically a quickly thrown together album of leftovers to please the record company at the time between Quadrophenia & By Numbers. It's just too all over the place, stuff ranging from the early days to songs that weren't good enough for Who's Next. A few of the songs are great, some are easily filler. That was the first Who album I owned, on 8-track no less. I recently traded in my vinyl of it, because it just collected dust.
Live @ Leeds on vinyl and the expanded version on CD is the only Who I really need along with the Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy set.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on September 03, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
Wow, I'm a longtime Who fan, and I think Odds & Sods is a snoozefest. Basically a quickly thrown together album of leftovers to please the record company at the time between Quadrophenia & By Numbers. It's just too all over the place, stuff ranging from the early days to songs that weren't good enough for Who's Next. A few of the songs are great, some are easily filler. That was the first Who album I owned, on 8-track no less. I recently traded in my vinyl of it, because it just collected dust.
Live @ Leeds on vinyl and the expanded version on CD is the only Who I really need along with the Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy set.
Live at Leeds is the bees knees.
Okay, im Mr Negative here, but honestly i've never been able to get into The Who. Although not all their material, it sounds so silly and goofy. So "of it's age" you could say. Fairly recently i attempted Tommy again and just couldn't hack it after 15 minutes or so. It's weird because i enjoy The Beatles who are also pretty goofy at times but i think that was because i got into them BEFORE hearing heavier music. Listening to The Who just makes me think "why am i listening to this when i could be hearing something i actually enjoy?".
Place your bets for Pitchfork's review of Pinkus Abortion Technician right now, before any music is released. I say pitchfork gives it a 6.7
I'm saying 5.9 :lol:
I think it might be low too. There could be some talk of it only being 9 tracks and lots of covers. Pitchfork suggesting the band are running on empty or such. It is destined that Chicken Switch will never be beaten!!
Блядь, это каким надо быть долбоёбом, чтобы оценить HAT на 5.6?! Ёбаный в рот...
...Sorry, seeing their 5.6 score for HAT evoked such primal rage in me I busted out swearing in my native language.
These scores make no sense whatsoever. :cobain:
At this point, does anyone care about Pitchfucks opinion?
Quote from: GiveMe45 on February 17, 2018, 09:04:25 PM
At this point, does anyone care about Pitchfucks opinion?
No, Pitchfork can lick my sack and like it.
Quote from: GiveMe45 on February 17, 2018, 09:04:25 PM
At this point, does anyone care about Pitchfucks opinion?
At this point, not really. Over past 2-3 years they've mostly lost their ability to influence the public, but for a good while, their review could seriously make or break the sales of a record... maybe not a Melvins record, but a record considered "cool" by "cool type" music press. The best example would be the Dismemberment Plan guy's solo record, which they gave a 0.0 and it basically destroyed his career. But, on the other hand, that's what happens when your audience is built up of mostly"flavor of the moment" type audience. I think we can all agree that Melvins really have operated outside of trends their entire career, so a pitchfork review, at any stage, isn't likely to affect them too much. If pitchfork gave them a glowing review and that caught on, it could bring in some new audience, but Buzz has stated several times before that the Melvins audience usually loses about 1/3 old fans and gains a new 1/3 of fans every album cycle.