A lot will be coming in so I thought it would be easier to bitch about them on one thread. :P
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/15421/reviews/4140101 (http://drownedinsound.com/releases/15421/reviews/4140101)
"Oh, and if you were wondering why I wrote about the tracks on this album in roughly reverse order: why, that
There is already a thread for this in the Album Discussion forum. Or is this thread only for "official" reviews from "reputable" music magazines and blog sites?
Quote from: Jared Preston Esquire on May 30, 2010, 10:09:10 PM
is this thread only for "official" reviews from "reputable" music magazines and blog sites?
Yep. Most of these reviews are going to be completely uninformed, ie Spin, so I I figured it'd make more sense to keep them separate.
AMG reviewed it but they didn't give it a score. It sounds like they'll eventually update it to have a 7 out of 10. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:3ifoxzldldfe
That's actually an okay review.
TOOL are great
http://mishkanyc.com/bloglin/2010/05/28/review-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://mishkanyc.com/bloglin/2010/05/28/review-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Quote from: Kolonel Kurtz Kobain on May 31, 2010, 01:02:44 AM
TOOL are great
bootlicker. you must be in the music industry, i hear it's full of them there.
Quote from: black stallion on May 31, 2010, 10:10:25 AM
http://mishkanyc.com/bloglin/2010/05/28/review-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://mishkanyc.com/bloglin/2010/05/28/review-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
"The same heavy-as-shit, wacky group that pissed your parents off growing up is back to tickle your nostalgia in your 30
9/10 from NME (though the review is lacking)
http://www.nme.com/reviews/melvins/11335 (http://www.nme.com/reviews/melvins/11335)
AV Club review
http://www.avclub.com/articles/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder,41646/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder,41646/)
has the rock a rolla review been posted yet? i hope not because i typed it all out after not finding the scan below readable enough for some of our older members. (i now feel like i wrote it myself.)
the third manifestation of the nth inacrnation of the thing known as melvins brings mostly refinement, but hints of revolution. half of the tracks continue in the principles established by the big business-enhanced line-up on (a) senile animal and nude with boots. for virgin ears, that means knotty, reptilian guitar lines, muscle-bound twin drum attack by dale and coady, and refreshingly inviting harmony-saturated vocals from buzz and jared.
the average tempo and pop saturation of melvins has increased significantly since the big business boys came to town. buzz's crispy latter-day guitar sound is even more sharp and sprightly, especially on the spiralling, companion pieces 'electric flower' and 'hospital up', the latter soaring oddly like jane's addiction if perry farrel were two burly men. however, the strongest tracks are the most anomalous and experimental. irresistible opener 'the water glass' starts out in a tangle of suitably crushing riffage, but gives way to few minutes' full metal jacket-style drill sergeant call and response. layered vocals and cavernous effects give super-heavy crawl 'i'll finish you off' a curious high church feel, and impression cemented by queasy, high-pitched vocals from menacing altar boys.
the highlight is arguably the treacle-paced version of the who's 'my generation', seemingly sung by a gang of muppet weasels in an anderson shelter. where the original was fuelled by brash hedonism, this sinister dirge resembles a recruitment anthem for sociopaths. as the riff cycles, ever slower and more distant, enveloped by muffled noise, it's diffcult to shake the feeling that your bathysphere has been cut loose and you're heading for the ocean floor. the closing 'pg x 3' is one of the band's strangest works - a surreal collage of suffocating drones, funeral a cappella folk, sensuous guitar resonance, and a lonely child reciting numbers in a hyperbanic chamber. beautifully balanced between anticipated and the aberrant, the bride screamed murder is the sound of melvins continuing to ignore your idea of what they're supposed to be.
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5959/photo217p.jpg)
Thanks for taking the time to type this out, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
That was an excellent and well written review.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on June 01, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
That was an excellent and well written review.
Yeah always on the money over at Rock-A-Rolla HQ. Probably the best music mag going, that is unless you're some kind of elitist, snobby Wire type. :)
Cuz they're actually music listeners.
That review sucked. Rolling Stone is where it's at.
Has Rollingstone ever even reviewed a Melvins album?
(Insert Melvins fanboy response here)
No, but the BBC has:
BBC Review
"They
This review from The Skinny sums up my feelings on the album pretty much....
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/99304-melvins---the-bride-screamed-murder (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/99304-melvins---the-bride-screamed-murder)
3 Stars Out Of 5
With 18 studio albums, half a dozen EPs, seven live albums and literally scores of other odds and ends scattered across the musical landscape, for Melvins the act of releasing a record might well be as numbingly routine as loveless, over-familiar sex with a partner whose benign expressions you now gently despise.
For better or worse, Buzzo and Dale have rediscovered their mischievous side with some chain-gang vocals on opener The Water Glass and an idiosyncratic rendition of The Who's My Generation. Yet despite packing a couple of belters in Evil New War God and Pig House there's an unmistakeable sense of Bride... running in third gear for much of its 45 minutes.
What would be a great record by most other bands' standards looks anaemic in comparison to much of that brilliant back catalogue amassed over the past 25 years. Then again, that's a hell of a lot longer than most marriages. [Austin Tasseltine]
Melvins- The Bride Screamed Murder ALBUM REVIEW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzsUK9Iq4DU#)
:lol:
you think he talks like that to everyone?
Quote from: black stallion on June 03, 2010, 09:25:46 AM
Melvins- The Bride Screamed Murder ALBUM REVIEW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzsUK9Iq4DU#)
:lol:
Isn't that Buick? :cheers:
I've been busy the past few days publicizing The Melvins. I wrote all of these, so some themes and pics overlap.
general melvins news:
http://www.chunklet.com (http://www.chunklet.com)
album review:
http://www.comfortcomes.com/2010/06/03/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://www.comfortcomes.com/2010/06/03/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
this is my personal website. it's supposed to be about comics, but i can put whatever i want, so:
http://youdontlookhip.blogspot.com/ (http://youdontlookhip.blogspot.com/)
Awesome stuff, thanks for posting
http://www.chimpomatic.com/reviews/20333/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://www.chimpomatic.com/reviews/20333/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Quote from: Senior Chiffon on June 04, 2010, 05:24:27 AM
http://www.chimpomatic.com/reviews/20333/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://www.chimpomatic.com/reviews/20333/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Call me a naysayer but i actually agree alot with this review, although i wouldn't rate it a 2/5 kinda record.
Pitchfork gave the a album a 5.2 - http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14313-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14313-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Of course, they also awarded Chicken Switch a 7.8. ..
Quote from: (((O))) on June 04, 2010, 08:23:56 AM
Quote from: Senior Chiffon on June 04, 2010, 05:24:27 AM
http://www.chimpomatic.com/reviews/20333/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://www.chimpomatic.com/reviews/20333/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Call me a naysayer but i actually agree alot with this review, although i wouldn't rate it a 2/5 kinda record.
Totally agree with that review apart from Evil New War God...........sorry but I just don't rate the song......also I rate the album as a 3 out of 5.
Here's the above review for the lazy folk here............
This is the first proper Melvins release for two years and the third to feature Jarred Warren and Coady Willis from Big Business. The two preceding albums (Senile Animal, Nude With Boots) were chock full of twin-drummer assaults and memorable tracks that somehow combined the best of the Melvins sound with that of Big Business. This new release has its moments, but ultimately fails to satisfy.
Speaking as a total fan-boy, I can't say I'm not disappointed. I've travelled more miles to see this band play live than any other. I've always loved the new ideas that come with shifting line-ups, and lived with this new release for a month before posting my review, but I can't get over the fact that this album is (at best) hotch-potch, and at worst, weak.
It's certainly diverse - the opening track The Water Glass is a rallying cry for the Melvins massive - all military cadence drumming and boot-camp chanting. OK, a bit baffling, but perhaps it'll work live. Things suddenly look up with track 2 - Evil New War God. This is the best track on the album - classic Melvins chunk winding into a doomy synth assisted riff during it's outro. Great stuff, but from here on in, the pickings get much slimmer. Pig House starts out promisingly enough but ends up in a rock-bolero - that most hackneyed and corny device. Even if it's meant to be ironic, it still sounds cheesy.
I'll Finish You Off is next - and to my ears it sounds just like a Big Business track. I'm not hearing much Buzz and Dale in there. Electric Flower follows and this could be said to be the other highlight of the album. Hospital Up comes next, which sounds like a track that might have been left off Nude With Boots - it starts well but dissolves into two minutes of faux-jazz fucking around. The joke wears thin after about 20 seconds. Inhumanity And Death is a bit incoherent - a stitch-together of left-over riffs, or orphans that don't really get along with each other. Then we get an 8 minute version of The Who's My Generation played as a sloppy bar blues. Once again, the irony is lost on me - it's just boring. The Melvins have done some awesome cover versions over the years (White Punks On Dope, Promise Me) but this doesn't come up to scratch.
The album winds down with PG x 3 - a folksy tone-poem played through three times - on melodica, a-capella, and on fuzz guitar. It ends with a child's voice counting numbers and looping on the number 4. I quite like this, but it's not exactly Steve Reich. Perhaps that repeated number 4 is reminding us that there are four people in the Melvins, each with equal input. Perhaps - but I'm not sure if this serves as a declaration or a disclaimer.
Quote from: Dubwise Ministry Juan on June 04, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
a 3 out of 5
Yeah that sounds about right upon the Melvins scale for albums but in relation to most OTHER music out there its probably more like a 4 or 4.5/5! As for Evil New War God, i'd argue that it's one of the best recent songs they've done to these ears!! Definitely the best on the record.
NWB and ASA had some memorable tracks and this is weak :-k
Quote from: black stallion on June 04, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
NWB and ASA had some memorable tracks and this is weak :-k
These critics can't handle anything that's not mass hyped or fits neatly into their cool scene. Fuck them. Make up your own mind about an album. If you enjoy it that's what matters.
Quote from: Angus Khan on June 04, 2010, 09:45:58 AM
Quote from: black stallion on June 04, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
NWB and ASA had some memorable tracks and this is weak :-k
These critics can't handle anything that's not mass hyped or fits neatly into their cool scene. Fuck them. Make up your own mind about an album. If you enjoy it that's what matters.
Amen brother!
Fuck Pitchfork
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14313-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14313-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
and yet they gave Chicken Switch a 7.8. Derrrrrrr....
http://consequenceofsound.net/2010/06/04/album-review-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://consequenceofsound.net/2010/06/04/album-review-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Ahhh
http://sputnikmusic.com/review_37187 (http://sputnikmusic.com/review_37187)
A quick browse through any list of
Quote from: the bloat on June 04, 2010, 10:36:50 AM
Fuck Pitchfork
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14313-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14313-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Let's just state a fact. Most people, if they have heard of them, hate the Melvins. They can't stand their sense of humour, think they are unnecessarily complicated and noisy and want them to do 3 minute pop tune verse-chorus-verse arrangements. How dare a band make a song that changes mid way or god forbid changes twice in one song? Don't they know they are supposed to play the same riff over and over? Don't they also realize that covers are supposed to sound identical to the originals? And whatever you do, don't have fun. Every second of the album must be SERIOUS!!!!
There's so much going on on this album it is going to make me a while to fully digest it and its got enough turns and surprises to keep me coming back for a long while. I think the real reason they get reviews like these is that the Melvins put out the albums they want to make not the albums critics want them to make.
Perhaps Pitchfork ought to stick with their hyperliterate folk-rock. No alarms and no surprises please!
Most critics listen to an album once before writing their review, I can't think of one Melvins album that doesn require multiple listens to fully enjoy.
Also...
Quote from: deatheats on June 04, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
Perhaps Pitchfork ought to stick with their hyperliterate folk-rock. No alarms and no surprises please!
Hyperliterate? More like pseudo-literate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the majority of the people who write for pitchdork are douche english-lit dop outs who couldn't accept criticism. They're the same type of tards who think they're intellectuals because they've taken a few university courses who have graduated from university. Bitch, please!
Quote from: ManWithNoName on June 04, 2010, 12:01:19 PM
Most critics listen to an album once before writing their review, I can't think of one Melvins album that doesn require multiple listens to fully enjoy.
Also...
Quote from: deatheats on June 04, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
Perhaps Pitchfork ought to stick with their hyperliterate folk-rock. No alarms and no surprises please!
Hyperliterate? More like pseudo-literate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the majority of the people who write for pitchdork are douche english-lit dop outs who couldn't accept criticism. They're the same type of tards who think they're intellectuals because they've taken a few university courses who have graduated from university. Bitch, please!
Sorry, Hyperliterate folk-rock was a quote from one their reviews of the Decemberists. I just couldn't resist.
My bad, I should have known. :lol:
Quote from: ManWithNoName on June 04, 2010, 12:01:19 PM
think they're intellectuals because they've taken a few university courses
yeah, I hate people like that
Listen to all you crybaby sissy folk who are throwing hissy fits because some folk point out the obvious about the new album HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
This album is better than Houdini, Stoner Witch and Eggnog.
aQ (http://www.aquariusrecords.org/)
Has it really been two whole years already since the last Melvins long player, the supremely rockin' Nude With Boots? They've been around so long and yet remain so vital and prolific and reliable, it always seems like they just put something out the other day, yet each release is a marvelous surprise. This is their third album since they recruited bass/drums duo Big Business into the band, and this phase of the Melvins' storied career has been a fruitful one.
The first minute or two of the first track "The Water Glass" starts off sounding very much typically thunderous heavier than thou Melvins... but woah, hey, it then takes a MAJOR turn into, what, a rhythmic marching band drumline thing (why not, they've got two drummers), with call and response vocal chant, the Melvins as cheerleaders or drill sergeants gettin' pumped up and ready to go. We're smiling like fools, and confused, what IS this? It's somehow like the MC5 or Dictators meet the Boredoms or go-go music or, we dunno, it'd be awesome and hilarious to see this live. Wow. All right, fair warning, this is clearly the Melvins getting weird on us, something of course they've have always had a knack for. Nude With Boots had its experimental moments, as all Melvins records do, more than moments sometimes, to varying degrees of accessibility, and this one ups the ante, coming closer in WTF?-ness to their recent radical remix album Chicken Scratch... and this time in ways that we don't think we've heard from them before.
All the while keeping it damn catchy, and HEAVY too, at least some of the time. Right on cue, track two again kicks out the jams in old school Melvins style... but a percussive breakdown isn't far away. Neither are cinematic keys, herky jerky prog parts (Ruins-esque, even, or Nomeansno-ish), quirky POP, frenzied metal, and plenty more random what the fuck weirdness, as warned. Such as a ploddingly odd, semi-abstract cover of "My Generation", ferinstance, or the lonely harmonica and hymn-like a cappella of the album's final track, "PG X 3" (and that's not even what's weird about that one). As always, they're part Kiss and The Cars, heavied up and punk rocked, and now we're realizing that Sparks just might be another big fave of theirs.
So, go along for the ride, trust us. And them. Ok, maybe "Hospital Up" is a bit of a throw-away (random improv scatter there). But otherwise, we're sold. And maybe it's the frequent vocal holler, echoing with chorus effect, or the double drummer bombastic battery, but this album sounds particularly triumphant. As well it should. One of the best bands ever, once again deliver the goods. And it can't be easy, after, what, 30 albums??? All we know is, THE MELVINS RULE. End of story.
Quote from: norecess on June 05, 2010, 04:37:13 AM
All we know is, THE MELVINS RULE. End of story.
Totally agree with that part of the review.
Is this their Music From The Elder?
No. Slap yourself.
Quote from: Jared Preston Esquire on June 05, 2010, 02:58:33 PM
Is this their Music From The Elder?
No......this is their St Anger
:o
"The critics have always been our enemy because of the self-appointed, self-anoited, houlier-than-thou approach they take. Even though they rarely have credentials, never went to school,never studied journalism and have no ethics, they have the point of view that their opinion is more important than ours. They are a bane to society, a completely worthless form of life as we know it on this planet." - Gene Simmons
Quote from: Buick on June 05, 2010, 04:51:30 PM
"The critics have always been our enemy because of the self-appointed, self-anoited, houlier-than-thou approach they take. Even though they rarely have credentials, never went to school,never studied journalism and have no ethics, they have the point of view that their opinion is more important than ours. They are a bane to society, a completely worthless form of life as we know it on this planet." - Gene Simmons
As far as Kiss goes, I don't go beyond Creatures Of The Night. However I do dig one track of their Revenge album called Unholy.
Sorry I don't do KISS, never have.
AC/DC was my KISS.
I do remember when The Elder came out and my bud was super stoked to finally land it @ the local record store.
It was in rotation in his home for only a short period of time.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder,41646/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder,41646/)
"After its so-so start, the disc settles into a grinding yet angular groove that feels as fresh and energized as anything the group released during its
The term "heyday" is probably just in reference to their most commercially successful period.
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 06, 2010, 12:28:19 AM
I often forget that some people think they peaked in the 90's.
You can see Melvins topping Bullhead, Eggnog, Lysol, Houdini, Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky, Trilogy by 2020?
You are a very optimistic person..............
And I hope you're right. :wink:
Quote from: Razor on June 06, 2010, 05:40:32 AM
You can see Melvins topping Bullhead, Eggnog, Lysol
not as long buzz stays off the soda pop!
Quote from: Razor on June 06, 2010, 05:40:32 AM
You can see Melvins topping Bullhead, Eggnog, Lysol, Houdini, Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky, Trilogy by 2020?
You forgot to include POTRE
Quote from: Razor on June 06, 2010, 05:40:32 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 06, 2010, 12:28:19 AM
I often forget that some people think they peaked in the 90's.
You can see Melvins topping Bullhead, Eggnog, Lysol, Houdini, Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky, Trilogy by 2020?
You are a very optimistic person..............
And I hope you're right. :wink:
I think that H.A.T., POTRE, ASA, and NWB are on par with those albums. Actually if I remember correctly most fans who post here thought H.A.T. was their best album.
People are so fickle. Melvins have never done a metallica or a slayer or an ac/dc or an iron maiden for that matter so I will be a longterm follower. If they decide to do a nu metal/carnival music fusion double album next time I'll still find something to love in there. Melvins do not go stale.
Mark Prindle's review! 8/10!
http://www.markprindle.com/melvinsa.htm#bride (http://www.markprindle.com/melvinsa.htm#bride)
BSM has been rolling on the car stereo in Schnabs rental car all the week i sunny france, and the verdict is that this a severly good record. Not a fan of the chants and stuff, but the highlights are so strong that it doesn`t matter. And, Dale should vocal more, Inhumanity or Death is awesome, allthough it`s too short. This record will also function live VERY well.
A buddy showed me how to shop I- tunes! :D. Downloaded it ( right word?) . One listen so far. Dig. Give it 2 thumbs^! Not a review necessarily, just an a-hole! :lol:
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 06, 2010, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: Razor on June 06, 2010, 05:40:32 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 06, 2010, 12:28:19 AM
I often forget that some people think they peaked in the 90's.
You can see Melvins topping Bullhead, Eggnog, Lysol, Houdini, Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky, Trilogy by 2020?
You are a very optimistic person..............
And I hope you're right. :wink:
I think that H.A.T., POTRE, ASA, and NWB are on par with those albums. Actually if I remember correctly most fans who post here thought H.A.T. was their best album.
This is getting way off point. So I'll reiterate so that you can understand that we're actually kinda on the same page here: I'd be very happy if you're right and that between 2011 and 2020, Melvins produce 10 albums on par as those 90's classics. IE that they haven't peaked yet.
Anyway, back on topic.....my signed copy hasn't arrived yet - bet the postie flogged it
I'm sorry guys, but the Pitchfork review has it right.
QuoteHowever, if that all doesn't sound appealing to you, you'll probably hear The Bride Screamed Murder as an album full of unfinished sketches and lazy doodles masquerading as proper tunes. The digressions will either come off as failed experiments or unfunny jokes, a handful of good ideas undercut by either their context or their brevity.
The end of "Finish" is that. I cringe everytime I hear it. It feels like some juvenille joke that got left it. My Generation is lazy, and PG x 3 is a little bit of filler.
We get some great rockers out of Pighouse and Inhumanity, but overall.....ok amounts of meh.
LIke Nude or ASA, I like it, but I don't love it.
turnacus, Dale Crover told me to kill you.
Quote from: Schnabster on June 07, 2010, 06:38:48 AM
turnacus, Dale Crover told me to kill you.
schnab, i heard coady thinks the new album sucks as well -- now what??
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on June 07, 2010, 06:38:48 AM
turnacus, Dale Crover told me to kill you.
schnab, i heard coady thinks the new album sucks as well -- now what??
I guess Melvins will have one drummer less, and BB will need a new drummer.
Quote from: Schnabster on June 07, 2010, 06:59:35 AM
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on June 07, 2010, 06:38:48 AM
turnacus, Dale Crover told me to kill you.
schnab, i heard coady thinks the new album sucks as well -- now what??
I guess Melvins will have one drummer less
which is exactly what norecess wanted :lol:
Quote from: black stallion on June 07, 2010, 07:37:53 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on June 07, 2010, 06:59:35 AM
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on June 07, 2010, 06:38:48 AM
turnacus, Dale Crover told me to kill you.
schnab, i heard coady thinks the new album sucks as well -- now what??
I guess Melvins will have one drummer less
which is exactly what norecess wanted :lol:
I too, Dale must be on his own again. Dale doesn`t need others to accompany him, Dale manages fine by himself. Dale has to lower his standards just to let Coady hang with, Dales individuality is threatened. Coady must watch his back on this tour.
I like the diversity on this album, and don't necessarily want every song to be a full on rock fest (which is kind of what we got with ASA).
I really enjoy the albums that diverge and go into experimental areas and show the lighthearted side of the Melvins. So I am very happy with the way this album turned out and its brought a smile to my face every time I've listened so far.
Anyone else notice how instead of separating the "joke" tracks out like they did say on Stag, they are incorporating them within the other songs (thus the 9 song tracklist instead of 13 or so)?
I'm totally with you Deatheats.
Am I allowed to quote myself?
Quote from: GrimReaper on May 26, 2010, 09:36:47 PM
The album makes perfect sense after listening to it a few times. The harmonies are great, the guitars kick ass. The more I listen to it the more I like it.
TBSM is like a soundscape that gets better as it goes on culminating in the harmonies of P.G. X 3.
Quote from: deatheats on June 07, 2010, 11:05:05 AM
Anyone else notice how instead of separating the "joke" tracks out like they did say on Stag
what joke tracks?
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: deatheats on June 07, 2010, 11:05:05 AM
Anyone else notice how instead of separating the "joke" tracks out like they did say on Stag
what joke tracks?
Yeah?
That's why I put it in quotes, reviewers like to call them Joke tracks for whatever reason. Songs like Hide, Yacob's Lab, Flush etc. It's totally insulting, but that's how they tend to talk about them.
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: deatheats on June 07, 2010, 11:05:05 AM
Anyone else notice how instead of separating the "joke" tracks out like they did say on Stag
what joke tracks?
I assume he refers to at very least the end of Hospital Up.
I like most of the album. Some of it I don't like much. I've said it before that in my opinion that these past 3 studio albums are not as strong as their past stuff. I don't attribute it to Jared or Coady either, but to the more "rock" approach they have taken. But it is a direction they have gone in and either you accept it or you don't. In my opinion as a fan I think their strongest releases are: GPT, Ozma, Houdini, Stoner Witch, Stag, The Maggot, The Bootlicker, H.A.T. P.O.T.R.E.
As for the other releases in between, I think they are great. I like them too. But again the albums listed above is their strongest material in my opinion. Lysol for example is great, but the bulk of the album is covers and I don't consider Hung Bunny even a song but more of a slow buildup to Roman Bird Dog. Bullhead as another example is great too but it doesn't hold up to those mentioned above as their strongest material and I think is in need of remastering. Additionally The Crybaby is my least listened to Melvins album. If it did not say Melvins on the front of it, you could not tell it is even a part of their discography. Prick, COD and Chicken Switch are appreciated if you are into noise, soundscape, collage music so the appeal of those albums are in the margins. I understand that they make music that they themselves would be fans of but that honestly doesn't always translate into other fans holding every release they have in the same level of personal taste.
But aside from all this, there is no other band like The Melvins that has the amount of artistic creativity they have. 26 years and still going strong. There is not a lame release among them. Not even Chicken Switch and I haven't even heard that yet so I give it the benefit of the doubt. No one truly doubts the Melvins onslaught or the enjoyable idiosyncrasy of their music.
Quote from: Barack Osborne on June 07, 2010, 12:19:42 PM
No one truly doubts the Melvins onslaught or the enjoyable idiosyncrasy of their music.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. We all (well some of us) bit*h and moan about this and that but in the end we still all love 'em and wouldn't want to see the band call it a day anytime soon. If ever!
Quote from: glen on June 07, 2010, 12:18:08 PM
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: deatheats on June 07, 2010, 11:05:05 AM
Anyone else notice how instead of separating the "joke" tracks out like they did say on Stag
what joke tracks?
I assume he refers to at very least the end of Hospital Up.
no i mean which joke tracks on stag.
Maybe Cottonmouth??? I think that track is cool and remember that that was the last song the did on their 96 tour.
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: glen on June 07, 2010, 12:18:08 PM
Quote from: norecess on June 07, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: deatheats on June 07, 2010, 11:05:05 AM
Anyone else notice how instead of separating the "joke" tracks out like they did say on Stag
what joke tracks?
I assume he refers to at very least the end of Hospital Up.
no i mean which joke tracks on stag.
Just to be clear, I don't think of them as joke tracks (more like interludes), Soup, Hide, Yacob's Lab. All I was trying to say is the tracks like these are more incorporated into the tracks on BSM rather than getting their own titles.
Quote from: turnacus on June 07, 2010, 06:02:15 AM
I'm sorry guys, but the Pitchfork review has it right.
QuoteHowever, if that all doesn't sound appealing to you, you'll probably hear The Bride Screamed Murder as an album full of unfinished sketches and lazy doodles masquerading as proper tunes. The digressions will either come off as failed experiments or unfunny jokes, a handful of good ideas undercut by either their context or their brevity.
The end of "Finish" is that. I cringe everytime I hear it. It feels like some juvenille joke that got left it. My Generation is lazy, and PG x 3 is a little bit of filler.
We get some great rockers out of Pighouse and Inhumanity, but overall.....ok amounts of meh.
LIke Nude or ASA, I like it, but I don't love it.
This is what has generally driven the Melvins music their whole career. If you agree with that statement you would have to agree with it for their whole catalog. This is nothing new. I've always felt this way about Buzz's writing "style" and I think this is that "weird" aspect from the Melvins songs that I enjoy. I believe that I get the joke though. Pitchfork might not...but I feel lucky that I am able to understand.
Pitchdork doesn't get the joke because they are themselves a joke.
matlock
Quote from: deatheats on June 07, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
Just to be clear, I don't think of them as joke tracks (more like interludes), Soup, Hide, Yacob's Lab. All I was trying to say is the tracks like these are more incorporated into the tracks on BSM rather than getting their own titles.
to me, the joke tracks on tbsm sound more playful (childish?) than the 'joke' tracks on stag, which are ambient experimental works that serve that perfect flow we all love.
i really fail to see a connection except for the melvins pulling a joke, which is part of their character of course.
p.s. whats the big deal about pitchfork? theyre so easy to ignore! (they, although most of their melvins reviews were written by different people) are they such an overwhelming power that force their opinion on them? people who really care for those reviews have a shitty taste in music anyway.
Oh its true, oh its true
This had to be written by a fan,
"The Melvins, a band on par with the Beatles, the Who, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, R.E.M., and Echo and the Bunnymen, have just released an incredible new album called The Bride Screamed Murder. King Buzzo, a growler and guitarist of the highest order, is in fine form. The legendary Dale Crover and Coady Willis drum with abandon and regard for all rules. We are thrilled to be able to hear Jared Warren
There is an odd review on amazon.com that starts with the guy saying, " Slow and heavy. Guitar work reminiscent of Gluey Porch Treatments.". He brings up GPT again while mentioning I'll Finish You Off.
"I'll Finish You Off
Gluey porch treatments at its slowest best. Close your eyes and meditate to this one.
5 stars"
:-s I really don't hear that at all.
It's a melodica not a harmonica. They are completely different.
Quote from: turnacus on June 07, 2010, 06:02:15 AM
I'm sorry guys, but the Pitchfork review has it right.
QuoteHowever, if that all doesn't sound appealing to you, you'll probably hear The Bride Screamed Murder as an album full of unfinished sketches and lazy doodles masquerading as proper tunes. The digressions will either come off as failed experiments or unfunny jokes, a handful of good ideas undercut by either their context or their brevity.
The end of "Finish" is that. I cringe everytime I hear it. It feels like some juvenille joke that got left it. My Generation is lazy, and PG x 3 is a little bit of filler.
We get some great rockers out of Pighouse and Inhumanity, but overall.....ok amounts of meh.
LIke Nude or ASA, I like it, but I don't love it.
You might not like P.G.1.3 but it is obvious they worked hard on that song. It's not filler.
I like the stupid My Sharona bit as a bit of sonic contrast between two tracks, but they should have saved the jazz joke for one of those limited edition vinyl releases they love so much. It's sort of interesting that they achieved the effect with balloons and rubber chickens, but "rock band does a jazz/do-wopp/whatever pastiche hidden track" is a tired, tired joke.
The melvins crew brought the idea of a heavy album with them to a new level. It's classically "heavy", without relying on too much "wall of sound" arrangements.
I'm about tired of reviews not having a damn clue about how to take the Peggy Gordon arrangement. Calling it a prayer, chanting, ghost song, or what the hell ever else they think it might be. I mean, have they never heard a folk song before? Traditional ballads? Monks aren't the only folks who can sing a cappella. Songs aren't necessarily religious just because you don't hear drums and guitars.
As for the jazz farts, I don't see why everyone things they are so offensive. Might not be the best or funniest thing ever worked in to an album but it doesn't shit the bed either.
I think It's a totally Epic album, like I said, this one is pure Mutant!
and yeah, I never tire from people who question the melvins.
I think people need to do a little more research in the feild of musical history to "get" why they used "peggy gordon".
I always felt a "military" vibe from the melvins, and this album totally makes it for me!
I think of roadbull and Lysol, the drums remind me of going on a huge native warpath!
oh don't forget Joan of arc.
what other melvins reminds you of something "military"
and you can tell by my "photo" I'm a huge WW2 collector/enthusiast.
in a way, digging military history is kinda the same as playing the melvins for me, I know that's a pretty cracked thing to explain, but how DO I explain what the melvins put into song so much more eloquently?
all I know is that if I was hanging out with the melvins I'd be talking with them about the great wars!
and If I got them each a gift, It would be a military antique of some sort.
p.s. if you can score me a melodica for under 20 bucks...lets talk, why not?
my buddy has a real one and I missed getting a good solid honer one when I had the chance.
primus uses one on a few tracks.
they are a little pricey..and I don't know if they make them anymore.
P.P.S, I can't beleive they actually put a part in a song with straight double kicks, on a metal riff...like hearing nu-metal on a melvins record???
they resisted the temptation long enough I suppose, but it's very A-typical for them, I guess maybe thats the Irony they wanted?
why after SO many songs have they never done that, I mean I've always imagined them doing that because they totally could, but I kinda was proud of them for avoiding going down that road, I dunno...it's one of those beats EVERY metal band has done and I guess I liked the fact that the melvins could totally do stuff like that for an entire album, like be a generic sounding metal band. but WHY after so many years do they finally crack?
I mean the melvins can do whatever the hell they want, I was just pretty confused, I wasn't sure I was actually Listening to the MELVINS for a second!!!
don't get me wrong, it's cool they did that of course..I just consider that beat to be one of those over-kill kind of things used by WAYYY too many sucky bands
I believe that Dale actually "patented" the little triplet builds before a snare hit on early melvins stuff...a LOT of bands have totally killed that for me, but I give dale the credit for keeping it real.
ok so anyone else kinda raise an eyebrow at that part of the song?
to make a serious point, Dale is one of the most original drummers I've ever heard, he's a HUGE influence On probably hundreds of great bands, so what was the deal with throwing that into the song? It's like they are making some sick comment about "selling out" or something. (whats YOUR theory?)
if you heard Buzz doing angel of death at the fantomas sound check you'd KNOW they could be the greatest thrash metal band in the universe if they felt like it!
I guess It reminds me of why they did a song like revolve (in a sense that they could stick to writing catchy tunes if they wanted to but chose to put out challenging albums, and for that decision alone, this band had me at hello) I mean they could have sold out, I think they wanted to be huge for a while, and finally realized that it wasn't what they wanted in the end, and made the right decision by doing the music THEY wanted to make.
well sorry for the rant, I'm done.
Quote from: Dumpster Diver on June 09, 2010, 01:55:14 AM
P.P.S, I can't beleive they actually put a part in a song with straight double kicks, on a metal riff...like hearing nu-metal on a melvins record???
explain please,which part,which song?to me the nu metal part of TBSM is a riff on Inhumanity and Death(middle of the song)..Smiling Cobra is nu metal too if you put that way...i have no problem with that though.
and yeah,i saw King Buzzo playing that Slayer riff during a Fantomas show...it was funny to see he could play it better than the original
Quote from: black stallion on June 09, 2010, 03:56:55 AM
Quote from: Dumpster Diver on June 09, 2010, 01:55:14 AM
P.P.S, I can't beleive they actually put a part in a song with straight double kicks, on a metal riff...like hearing nu-metal on a melvins record???
explain please,which part,which song?
Evil New War God is straight up Nu-Metal.........Melvins Vs My Chemical Romance stylee.
Quote from: Dubwise Ministry Juan on June 09, 2010, 04:05:37 AM
Quote from: black stallion on June 09, 2010, 03:56:55 AM
Quote from: Dumpster Diver on June 09, 2010, 01:55:14 AM
P.P.S, I can't beleive they actually put a part in a song with straight double kicks, on a metal riff...like hearing nu-metal on a melvins record???
explain please,which part,which song?
Evil New War God is straight up Nu-Metal.........Melvins Vs My Chemical Romance stylee.
LOL,honestly i didn't believe you guys meant that song as nu metal...i thought that was the "classic" on the new album,the song all the fans would have appreciated.
Too much meh on this record.
Quote from: black stallion on June 09, 2010, 04:16:38 AM
LOL,honestly i didn't believe you guys meant that song as nu metal...i thought that was the "classic" on the new album,the song all the fans would have appreciated.
yeah I've noticed that?
IMO Evil New War God is quite possibly the most banal metal riff Melvins have ever created. They've lifted it straight off am My Chemical Romance record.
Quote from: black stallion on June 09, 2010, 04:16:38 AM
i thought that was the "classic" on the new album,the song all the fans would have appreciated.
ha no way, that weak-ass intro alone make me wanna skip it, let alone that 'civilized' riff or the riff in the outro i've already heard in 2 or 3 variations on the other two 'bb' albums.
NEXT!
Haha, I've thought it to be the best song on the record right next to the first half of I'll Finish You Off.
Banal riff salad = Electric Flower
Quote from: turnacus on June 09, 2010, 06:03:37 AM
Too much meh on this record.
as if the melvins give a fuck!
p.s. dont forget to buy the box set. you might already have all material on it but the melvins want your $$$
We should take bets as to see who's the first of the haters to come around in a couple months who's going to be all "OMFG THIS ALBUM IS THE BEST! I WAS SO WRONG! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT! OMGZ!!!1111!!!11!!11!!!"
2004 and you still haven't learnt the internet is just a big outlet for negativity? :lol:
Quote from: norecess on June 09, 2010, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: turnacus on June 09, 2010, 06:03:37 AM
Too much meh on this record.
as if the melvins give a fuck!
p.s. dont forget to buy the box set. you might already have all material on it but the melvins want your $$$
:cheers:
TBSM is a great album over all. I am digging Jared's space bass. I do not like every song on the album, but I can not think of any records by the melvins that i like EVERY single song on except the maggot.
I am starting to get tired of all the harmony signing. a track here and there is cool, but they are almost using every song it seems, i would rather them trade off singing (Buzz does not have to sing everything).
Quote from: linoleum blownapart on June 09, 2010, 10:08:51 AM
Buzz does not have to sing everything.
Perhaps not but he does have by far the best voice.
Cult rock band Melvins hit pop charts after 26 years
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6586UR20100609 (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6586UR20100609)
THEY MADE IT :lol:
hilarious
Quote from: Razor on June 09, 2010, 10:38:52 PM
Cult rock band Melvins hit pop charts after 26 years
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6586UR20100609 (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6586UR20100609)
THEY MADE IT :lol:
About time a Thud-Rock band made the charts.
nevermind, they will make more money once they are all dead.
If Buzz had lost some weight, prettied up and killed himself in the 90's, he'd be set for life.
Quote from: Barack Osborne on June 07, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
It's a melodica not a harmonica. They are completely different.
Put that on the Melodica Wikipedia entry:
Melodica
Used on the Melvins release "The Bride Screamed Murder".
The band Faith No More uses this instrument as well. It is played by Mike Patton, the vocalist, during the songs "Midnight Cowboy" and "This Guy's in Love with You". Patton has also used the melodica in his band Fantomas to play the intro to the cover version of the theme to "The Godfather" in both a live setting and on the album "The Director's Cut."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodica_in_music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodica_in_music)
Quote from: norecess on June 09, 2010, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: black stallion on June 09, 2010, 04:16:38 AM
i thought that was the "classic" on the new album,the song all the fans would have appreciated.
ha no way, that weak-ass intro alone make me wanna skip it, let alone that 'civilized' riff or the riff in the outro i've already heard in 2 or 3 variations on the other two 'bb' albums.
NEXT!
Exactly. The original parts are few and far between. I don't know, maybe it's me. I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago, maybe I just outgrew the band.
Give this album a chance, it grows on you. And none of us are the same as 10 years ago, but we all grew old together.
Quote from: GrimReaper on June 10, 2010, 06:13:48 AM
Quote from: Barack Osborne on June 07, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
It's a melodica not a harmonica. They are completely different.
Put that on the Melodica Wikipedia entry:
Melodica
Used on the Melvins release "The Bride Screamed Murder".
there's no need to have a melodica,Crover can do that sound with his mouth
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2918763169_6efffa2076.jpg)
Quote from: black stallion on June 10, 2010, 06:46:04 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on June 10, 2010, 06:13:48 AM
Quote from: Barack Osborne on June 07, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
It's a melodica not a harmonica. They are completely different.
Put that on the Melodica Wikipedia entry:
Melodica
Used on the Melvins release "The Bride Screamed Murder".
there's no need to have a melodica,Crover can do that sound with his mouth
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2918763169_6efffa2076.jpg)
Crover can do this aswell:
(http://renaissanceronin.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/moses-parts-the-red-sea-2.jpg)
Crover is the chosen one.
CD Review: Melvins
http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2010/06/04/melvinsreview/ (http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2010/06/04/melvinsreview/)
http://www.metalunderground.com/reviews/details.cfm?releaseid=3859 (http://www.metalunderground.com/reviews/details.cfm?releaseid=3859)
and
http://www.noripcord.com/reviews/music/melvins/bride-screamed-murder (http://www.noripcord.com/reviews/music/melvins/bride-screamed-murder)
and
http://www.musicemissions.com/artists/albums/index.php?album_id=11589 (http://www.musicemissions.com/artists/albums/index.php?album_id=11589)
QuoteAnd so it is with 'The Bride Screamed Murder.' Opener 'The Water Glass' almost teases the listener by launching into one of those super-heavy trademark riffs, before going all native American. It's a trick! You think it's going to be a straightforward heavy rock number, but then... well, it's never what you expect.
This made me laugh from the
Music Emissions review. Native American? I suppose that's the only genre Melvins haven't really delved into yet with the exception of the Lysol cover
I don't know...there are some moments on Bootlicker that have a Native American feel.
Don't forget "Chief Ten Beers".
Tangle it in the ends
Heart in hand
Lookin for the blood
Of the White Man
Lookin for the day
When I can be an Indian
After all this time
I get my revenge
But I, I aint no Indian
I have to kill
With what I can
Dream of their fall, dream of their death
http://thenumberoftheblog.com/2010/06/12/fucking-metal-album-reviews-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/ (http://thenumberoftheblog.com/2010/06/12/fucking-metal-album-reviews-melvins-the-bride-screamed-murder/)
Quote from: norecess on June 01, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
has the rock a rolla review been posted yet? i hope not because i typed it all out after not finding the scan below readable enough for some of our older members. (i now feel like i wrote it myself.)
the third manifestation of the nth inacrnation of the thing known as melvins brings mostly refinement, but hints of revolution. half of the tracks continue in the principles established by the big business-enhanced line-up on (a) senile animal and nude with boots. for virgin ears, that means knotty, reptilian guitar lines, muscle-bound twin drum attack by dale and coady, and refreshingly inviting harmony-saturated vocals from buzz and jared.
the average tempo and pop saturation of melvins has increased significantly since the big business boys came to town. buzz's crispy latter-day guitar sound is even more sharp and sprightly, especially on the spiralling, companion pieces 'electric flower' and 'hospital up', the latter soaring oddly like jane's addiction if perry farrel were two burly men. however, the strongest tracks are the most anomalous and experimental. irresistible opener 'the water glass' starts out in a tangle of suitably crushing riffage, but gives way to few minutes' full metal jacket-style drill sergeant call and response. layered vocals and cavernous effects give super-heavy crawl 'i'll finish you off' a curious high church feel, and impression cemented by queasy, high-pitched vocals from menacing altar boys.
the highlight is arguably the treacle-paced version of the who's 'my generation', seemingly sung by a gang of muppet weasels in an anderson shelter. where the original was fuelled by brash hedonism, this sinister dirge resembles a recruitment anthem for sociopaths. as the riff cycles, ever slower and more distant, enveloped by muffled noise, it's diffcult to shake the feeling that your bathysphere has been cut loose and you're heading for the ocean floor. the closing 'pg x 3' is one of the band's strangest works - a surreal collage of suffocating drones, funeral a cappella folk, sensuous guitar resonance, and a lonely child reciting numbers in a hyperbanic chamber. beautifully balanced between anticipated and the aberrant, the bride screamed murder is the sound of melvins continuing to ignore your idea of what they're supposed to be.
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5959/photo217p.jpg)
I love Rock-A-Rolla, consistently excellent
Quote
I love Rock-A-Rolla, consistently excellent
Amen to that
http://ripplemusic.blogspot.com/2010/07/melvins-bride-screamed-murder.html (http://ripplemusic.blogspot.com/2010/07/melvins-bride-screamed-murder.html)
Prior to hearing The Bride Screamed Murder from Melvins, I knew very little about the group. Now, after listening to The Bride Screamed Murder several times back to back to back, I know even less about them. I can say this, though . . . Melvins approach the creation of music unique to their own perspective, a perspective forged from the fires in the bellies of stars in solar systems light years away from what we may perceive as normal. That
Quote from: Smash the State on June 16, 2010, 06:09:03 PM
Tangle it in the ends
Heart in hand
Lookin for the blood
Of the White Man
Lookin for the day
When I can be an Indian
After all this time
I get my revenge
But I, I aint no Indian
I have to kill
With what I can
Dream of their fall, dream of their death
the highlight of bootlicker imo.
black santa also has a native western feel to it.
Quote from: black stallion on August 14, 2010, 04:08:40 PM
http://ripplemusic.blogspot.com/2010/07/melvins-bride-screamed-murder.html (http://ripplemusic.blogspot.com/2010/07/melvins-bride-screamed-murder.html)
"detuned guitar riff . . . all sludge-y and fat"
"dense onslaught of sludge toned guitars"
"That
I've never understood why everyone considers the band to be Sludge. Perhaps some earlier stuff like Hung Bunny, Boris etc but now??? When i hear the term "Sludge" i think of bands like Sourvein or Buzz-Oven or such. Never Melvins!
when I hear the term sludge thrown around I just think slow thick and heavy. isnt that a large part of the melvins sound? that is just one of many aspects to their sound though. it doesnt just end at sludgey metal riffs.
Quote from: Uncle Fester on August 15, 2010, 07:50:30 AM
when I hear the term sludge thrown around I just think slow thick and heavy. isnt that a large part of the melvins sound? that is just one of many aspects to their sound though. it doesnt just end at sludgey metal riffs.
IMO, the word " Sludge" should be replaced with the word " Dynamic " in the reviews.
the term I hate most is "stoner rock".
one guy I work with who despises the melvins says their just "stoner metal"
heres the irony..... he loves Pantera!
Quote from: Uncle Fester on August 15, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
the term I hate most is "stoner rock".
The term I hate the most is "sounds like Black Sabbath".