Does buzz just alter words that have meaning so nobody knows what the hell he's talking about? Or do his words actually have meaning? Or does he just throw random words in songs cuz they SOUND cool?
some do, most don't.
hehe, i don't think it matter man, too AWESOME
Quote from: Simonhehe, i don't think it matter man, too AWESOME
absolutely! they have the best lyrics in the world. i cant remember where i read this but i think buzz thinks of lyrics as more of an instrument than a way to project ideas or thoughts. like this "HARDLY, WE REACH" sounds so cool.
That's pretty much what i think. I sometimes experiment like that, it makes making music so much more fun. What also blows me away is how he gets his song titles. "Spread Eagle Beagle", "shevil", "porg". i love it
His lyrics often sound like trendy Japanese t-shirt designs in their random use of English...
Quote from: deejuks2That's pretty much what i think. I sometimes experiment like that, it makes making music so much more fun. What also blows me away is how he gets his song titles. "Spread Eagle Beagle", "shevil", "porg". i love it
HAHA yeah man, song titles is good! Porg i love this name man, great name for song!
His lyrics just fit well with the music very well. I'm sure most 'mean' something, but he's not singing them to put out meaning. Its more like the melvins don't wanna be instrumental, but found a way to have vocals without people really lsitening to what he's saying.
What's the steve albini quote, vocals are for the people who can't handle music. Something like that.
he is a great dada/surrealist poet :)
yea i love buzz's lyrics. they make you think, and that is something i dont see alot with new bands out today, they just come out and say what there feeling wether it be angst, love, anger whatever, and after a while it gets a bit stale, hearing about how depressed they are :cry: . that is why i love buzz's lyrics, they never gets stale.
Yes, then he goes and takes a complete 180 and sings a song like "set me straight". wierd. the song seems too simple for them. Although, they wrote it way back on GPT, so maybe they were more "punk" back then.
Its not the words(or meaning for that matter) that make them cool. It's how he pronounces them which kickass. He'll strecth some words out, say them fast etc... Some do have meaning I'm sure but most are just cool sounding. Set me straight is probably my second favorite song next to the cover(?) of Candy-o.
The Melvins have spoiled me for all other lyrics... most lyrics I hear from other bands sound simply banal or plain stupid. On the other hand, Buzz's lyrics have so much meaning, even though they are seemingly meaningless and hard to understand.
isn't this where "hooch" comes in to be a perfect example?
pure nonsense. i sometimes think it all ties together... and i try to figure it out... but i get frusterated and just leave it.
as a fan of death metal and extreme metal in general, ive become used to not knowing lyrics-the singing to me is just a protection of the motion of the song, they could be singing about fluffy bunny tea parties for all i care it wouldnt make any difference
the melvins are exactly the same, buzz just screams when the song calls for it...but some little things he says are so cool, like on "dont piece me" when he sings "OH GOD, IT LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!" gives me shivers every time!
Quote from: deejuks2Yes, then he goes and takes a complete 180 and sings a song like "set me straight". wierd. the song seems too simple for them. Although, they wrote it way back on GPT, so maybe they were more "punk" back then.
set me straight was written by dale, one of the few.
It is simply sick....the earlier stuff musically and lyrically is amazing but, some of me personal favorite is off of Hostile Ambient Takeover...
the lyrics are almost mesmorizing...
I like the lyrics on Ozma. They are really amazing.
Revultion
``I got a word, that coming out
Coming out of my throat
It's a long ass word
Its gonna make me choke``
I think his insulting someone
lol
Crazy messiah
`` Caged small in its prophecy
I can feel the hearth
Beating the shape in my hand``
Deaddressed
``One tenth of her!!!!
I feel her talking thru my stand up hair`!!
Agonizer
``Sometine bad thing happened, what a bad place we've been...``
My favorite
``...my main oven drive you took from under
what come over me``
Or the way he say ``You seeeeeee`` at the end of At a crawl. also give me shiver
Quote from: SimonHAHA yeah man, song titles is good! Porg i love this name man, great name for song!
i think this is really beto...anyone with me here?
Quote from: VcavalloQuote from: SimonHAHA yeah man, song titles is good! Porg i love this name man, great name for song!
i think this is really beto...anyone with me here?
Yeah, I think so too.
Quote from: Vcavalloi think this is really beto...anyone with me here?
UHH?? :shock: :shock: :shock:
no way man !
I'm actually pretty for in the minority here, but I've always thought that most if not all of the lyrics in Melvins songs have meaning. It's just complicated by a few facts:
1) Buzz Osbourne and co, but especially Buzz, like to fuck with people. He likes to twist the tiny little brains of people who annoy him, which, and I'm a big fan of hte guy, seems to be most of the people in the world.
2) Buzz Osbourne is a pretty private person for the lead singer/primary songwriter for a band. He hides the meanings of the songs through a lot of wordplay and symbolism. I'm also a lead singer/primary songwriter in my band(s) and I know that I've had personal stuff that I wanted to put in a song, but didn't want to just say the words right out because it's private, or would just sound better with the symbolism. After all, if you're a Melvins fan, you're not exactly into things that are clear, concise, and easy to listen to. It's ridiculous to think that if we're going to listen (repeatedly) to not-exactly straightforward stuff like "Charmicarmicat," "The Anti-Vermin Seed" or "Goggles" that we're going to run screaming from a little lyrical obscurity, and say, "No no! It's just an instrument! It doesn't have any meaning!" Afterall, we'll appreciate the the screech, scream and roar, but then get all paranoid when it seems like he might be saying something.
If you want instrumental music, listen to instrumental music. Hell, I'm not a big fan of music without lyrics (then again, I'm a lyricist, it's a bit like a shred guitar specialist listening to songs without solos, or that never get off of Em/Am/G cowboy chords.
I like heavy, angry, ugly music, with genius-level lyrics, that's why I like the Melvins.
3) Maybe this should be 2b: There is sort of a Melvins language, maybe just a Buzz Osbourne language. Let's take the one we can all absolutely agree on the lyrics to, "Hooch." The lyrics are published and listening to the song, exact. In addition to emphasizing and pronouncing words in his own ways, he tends to break words in odd places, and make them into other words. For example:
"Your make a doll a ray day sender"
Drop "sender," it belongs on the next line, we get:
"Your make a doll a ray day"
A great nonsense line. Now, break it like this instead:
"Your make a dollaray day"
Drop the extra letters used to muddy the waters:
"You(r) make a dollar(ay) day"
You get the unandorned line:
"You make a dollar a day."
("Sender" begins the next line, and becomes "Send her." as best as I can tell. No, I do not have some weird hotline to Buzz's brain, and not sure I'd want one. No, I have never claimed to know what every Melvins song means, and I'm pretty sure that some of them mean nothing or close to nothing)
4) Some people don't want Buzz to have any emotions or opinions. The former because they're afraid to see him as anything but a wind up jukebox for our amusement, and the latter because they're afraid they'll disagree with him, or more to the point, the almighty Buzz might disagree with them. They don't want him to sing songs about BDSM ("Roman Dog Bird" "Boris") war ("Roadbull", "The Hawk" "Revolve" "Let it All Be" "Civilized Worm") left-wing politics ("Captain Pungent" "Revolve" "A Civilized Worm") religion ("Suicide in Progress" "The Bloated Pope", hell pratically the entire "Pigs of the Roman Empire" album and large parts of Bullhead.) doomed love ("Easy as it Was", "With Teeth", "Grinding Process") masturbation ("Koollegged"), mysticism (just about all of the Honky and Bullhead albums, "The Anti-Vermin Seed" "The Fool, The Meddling Idiot") the "scene" ("Foaming" "Rat Faced Granny" "AMAZON" practically all of the Stoner Witch album, "Billy Fish") or hte difficulty involved with being an artist, especially as one gets older ("Skin Horse" "Rat Faced Granny" "Billy Fish")
Listen to him scream "You had better damn well tell green from gold" in "The Anti-Vermin Seed," and tell me that he does not express emotion in his music. The force behind that line is amazing. Listen to "Manky" and tell me he's not angry.
Buzz Osbourne is not a human jukebox, where put a coin in his mouth, press his nose, and he plays a song for us. He's a human being with emotions and opinions. Nothing to be afraid of here.
5) I have never seen anyone else think that Buzz Osbourne curses in his lyrics. Just about every time he says "shit" someone writes it out as "sick." Was it a typo for the first track on Electroretard? Was it suppose to be "Sickstorm"?
up next. rene translates the bible!
5 year hibernation
i like melvins cause they takes me away from the thinking
interesting thread.
i got a laugh out of a few people trying to sing along to certain songs when i saw them live.
rene, I think Boris is about Buzzo's cat. :?
QuoteFor example:
"Your make a doll a ray day sender"
Drop "sender," it belongs on the next line, we get:
"Your make a doll a ray day"
A great nonsense line. Now, break it like this instead:
"Your make a dollaray day"
Drop the extra letters used to muddy the waters:
"You(r) make a dollar(ay) day"
You get the unandorned line:
"You make a dollar a day."
QuoteBuzz Osbourne is not a human jukebox, where put a coin in his mouth, press his nose, and he plays a song for us. He's a human being with emotions and opinions. Nothing to be afraid of here.
I'm sorry but i just read this and what the hell.
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 22, 2009, 03:38:06 PM
5 year hibernation
(http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1912;type=avatar)
:D
Buzz is probably into stream of consciousness lyric writing and is influenced by James Joyce.
Try to read Finnigan's Wake and you will see what I mean.
Quote from: Rene They Call Him on March 22, 2009, 02:37:41 PM
"Your make a doll a ray day sender"
Drop "sender," it belongs on the next line, we get:
"Your make a doll a ray day"
A great nonsense line. Now, break it like this instead:
"Your make a dollaray day"
Drop the extra letters used to muddy the waters:
"You(r) make a dollar(ay) day"
You get the unandorned line:
"You make a dollar a day."
i started reading this like i was about to hear an explanation on some cryptical illuminati mystery that buzz encoded into Hooch... and then .... nothing. no punchline or anything :(
Quote from: erin on March 22, 2009, 05:19:14 PM
rene, I think Boris is about Buzzo's cat. :?
Seriously? NEver heard that theory before. Now that I think about it, I guess it's possible.
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 22, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Buzz is probably into stream of consciousness lyric writing and is influenced by dr. seuss.
Try to read the cat in the hat and you will see what I mean.
this is more like it.
Quote from: cara on March 22, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
I'm sorry but i just read this and what the hell.
That's why I visit this board.
I think Rene makes more sense than most others do in this thread, except that his statements aren't facts, but they sure are interesting observations. I like to drift away about it myself, but I would never have the guts to post my interpretations in this thread, or present them as facts.
Quote from: Rene They Call Him on March 22, 2009, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: erin on March 22, 2009, 05:19:14 PM
rene, I think Boris is about Buzzo's cat. :?
Seriously? NEver heard that theory before. Now that I think about it, I guess it's possible.
IIRC he told someone from tool. And yeah I think it's possible.
Ya, that's why they have the pic of Boris on the inside of the Bullhead cassette sleeve.
(http://thesickos.free.fr/bullhead2.jpg)
(http://thesickos.free.fr/bullhead1.jpg)
That totally slipped my mind. :( But thanks conda.
Now I just have to wonder if Roman Dog Bird is about BDSM. :lol:
I used to think it was about masturbation:
- I'd like to take I like to feel wanted
- It's like sin.
- I got a small, got what they call the lack
- See Boris has way of seeing through my eyes
Where Boris symbolizes the master of LUST (sin).
Quote from: norecess on March 23, 2009, 09:12:39 AM
I used to think it was about masturbation:
- I'd like to take I like to feel wanted
- It's like sin.
- I got a small, got what they call the lack
- See Boris has way of seeing through my eyes
Where Boris symbolizes the master of LUST (sin).
I guess you could have thought that, but I think Buzz wanted mainly to convey the self-centered personality of a cat.
And isn't masturbation a 'sin'? Not 'like sin'? I dunno.
Quote from: erin on March 23, 2009, 09:15:56 AM
I guess you could have thought that, but I think Buzz wanted mainly to convey the self-centered personality of a cat.
I know that too now ;)
Quote from: norecess on March 23, 2009, 09:12:39 AM
I used to think it was about masturbation:
- I'd like to take I like to feel wanted
- It's like sin.
- I got a small, got what they call the lack
- See Boris has way of seeing through my eyes
Where Boris symbolizes the master of LUST (sin).
back when i used to think about the lyrics of melvins i thought along similar lines
thought boris was a pseudonym for his cock
Quote from: FART LIPS on March 22, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 22, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Buzz is probably into stream of consciousness lyric writing and is influenced by Henry Rollins' spoken word albums.
this is more like it.
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 23, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: FART LIPS on March 22, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 22, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Buzz is probably into stream of consciousness lyric writing and is influenced by Henry Rollins' spoken word albums.
this is more like it.
uhh,say what? Rollins?....Maybe a DaDa/Stream of Consciousness mix.
The Melvins are in the truest sense Artists and the reason they keep such a hardcore following is because their aesthetics are so unique and fluid.Part of the reason I got into the Melvins was the lack of traditionally structured lyrics. Speaking for myself, I find their songs have a longer shelf life because of the lyrical chaos & allow the listener to come to their own conclusions as to what any particular song is about. The songs sometimes seem to have new meanings over time & in different settings. "Hardly we reach"...YES! When you hear that after the more free form 'words' that come before it, they carry so much more weight because it makes you ask questions; What are they reaching for ?, What am I reaching for ? ...The mark of great artists/preformers is not only to get attention,but to keep it and leave the viewer/listener with new thoughts,questions & different perspectives.The Melvins do this for me.
Rollins seems to be direct with his thoughts. Even when he is saying something abstract like,"I've got diamonds in my eyes!",you know
exactly what he means...mostly because the the rest of the 'picture' he is 'painting' is quite clear and to the point.
Quote from: norecess on March 23, 2009, 04:40:23 AM
Quote from: cara on March 22, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
I'm sorry but i just read this and what the hell.
That's why I visit this board.
I think Rene makes more sense than most others do in this thread, except that his statements aren't facts, but they sure are interesting observations. I like to drift away about it myself, but I would never have the guts to post my interpretations in this thread, or present them as facts.
It's not a fact that Buzz Osbourne is not a jukebox, just an observation? :-)
I guess I'm just the opposite. I'd love to be able to post my interpretations for the meanings of the songs on this or any other board. (Note: That does not mean that I know what all of them are about.)
Oh, and erin, anaconda, et. al, I the cat thing makes perfect sense now. I originally thought that "Boris" was either a split personality, or a demon possessing the narrator. Trust me, as the owner of six cats myself, I can understand how I confused those. (Never play online poker with a cat on your lap. . .unless they're a better player than you.)
:lol:
Quote from: jzacs71 on March 23, 2009, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 23, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: FART LIPS on March 22, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 22, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Buzz is probably into stream of consciousness lyric writing and is influenced by Henry Rollins' spoken word albums.
this is more like it.
uhh,say what? Rollins?....Maybe a DaDa/Stream of Consciousness mix.
The Melvins are in the truest sense Artists and the reason they keep such a hardcore following is because their aesthetics are so unique and fluid.Part of the reason I got into the Melvins was the lack of traditionally structured lyrics. Speaking for myself, I find their songs have a longer shelf life because of the lyrical chaos & allow the listener to come to their own conclusions as to what any particular song is about. The songs sometimes seem to have new meanings over time & in different settings. "Hardly we reach"...YES! When you hear that after the more free form 'words' that come before it, they carry so much more weight because it makes you ask questions; What are they reaching for ?, What am I reaching for ? ...The mark of great artists/preformers is not only to get attention,but to keep it and leave the viewer/listener with new thoughts,questions & different perspectives.The Melvins do this for me.
Rollins seems to be direct with his thoughts. Even when he is saying something abstract like,"I've got diamonds in my eyes!",you know
exactly what he means...mostly because the the rest of the 'picture' he is 'painting' is quite clear and to the point.
It was a joke. Buzz laughs at Henry Rollins.
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 24, 2009, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: jzacs71 on March 23, 2009, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 23, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: FART LIPS on March 22, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: Flavius Joesephus Deutromius on March 22, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Buzz is probably into stream of consciousness lyric writing and is influenced by Henry Rollins' spoken word albums.
this is more like it.
uhh,say what? Rollins?....Maybe a DaDa/Stream of Consciousness mix.
The Melvins are in the truest sense Artists and the reason they keep such a hardcore following is because their aesthetics are so unique and fluid.Part of the reason I got into the Melvins was the lack of traditionally structured lyrics. Speaking for myself, I find their songs have a longer shelf life because of the lyrical chaos & allow the listener to come to their own conclusions as to what any particular song is about. The songs sometimes seem to have new meanings over time & in different settings. "Hardly we reach"...YES! When you hear that after the more free form 'words' that come before it, they carry so much more weight because it makes you ask questions; What are they reaching for ?, What am I reaching for ? ...The mark of great artists/preformers is not only to get attention,but to keep it and leave the viewer/listener with new thoughts,questions & different perspectives.The Melvins do this for me.
Rollins seems to be direct with his thoughts. Even when he is saying something abstract like,"I've got diamonds in my eyes!",you know
exactly what he means...mostly because the the rest of the 'picture' he is 'painting' is quite clear and to the point.
It was a joke. Buzz laughs at Henry Rollins.
Then disregard the last two lines.
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 22, 2009, 03:38:06 PM
5 year hibernation
damn! It happened again. Five year hibernation! :P
Quote from: Mad Arab on March 24, 2009, 02:54:58 PM
It was a joke. Buzz laughs at Henry Rollins.
Well, maybe when he refers to the "Nutmeg" album. One of his favorites. :lol:
i think Melvins love SATAN
Quote from: black stallion on May 09, 2014, 10:59:36 AM
i think Melvins love SATAN
And you love Melvins, therefore you love SATAN.