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Title: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 01, 2014, 07:02:29 AM
Hey guys!

Does anyone have some details to Dale´s not Tama kits?

I know that he  had one (or two?) Ludwig kits in Bonham sizes (26/24,14/15,18) and his "Piece of shit kit" which is heard one 6/8/10/26 songs and Gluey.

But...any detailed information on these?

What actual sizes were they?

What cymbals did he play back then?

ANY other information?:D


I don´t exactly know why I wanna know everything about his kits (maybe because he´s my idol...) but hell, I wanna know everything that can be found!:D

btw: my guesses on his drum sizes:

Ludwig: 26,15,18, 15 snare
Piece of shit: 20, 16,12,14,16, 15 snare


.If anyone has some information for me..thank you!:)
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: anaconda on April 01, 2014, 08:07:04 AM
(http://ry.bulldoghome.com/dale%20kit.jpg)
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: black stallion on April 01, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
i think he sold the Ludwig kit fom the early days to the Tweak Bird guy

... luckiest man ever?


Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: TheSwingSet on April 02, 2014, 11:11:12 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tama-Starclassic-Performer-15-18-24-Drum-Set-Black-with-Cases-Shell-Pack/291113039085?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D5923144973414160936%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271286736875%26clkid%3D5923146061502595764&_qi=RTM1562570 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tama-Starclassic-Performer-15-18-24-Drum-Set-Black-with-Cases-Shell-Pack/291113039085?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D5923144973414160936%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271286736875%26clkid%3D5923146061502595764&_qi=RTM1562570)
This is actually a really good deal.
But I have 2 Sets as it is...
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 02, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
Quote from: black stallion on April 01, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
i think he sold the Ludwig kit fom the early days to the Tweak Bird guy

... luckiest man ever?

hell yes. fuckin yes.




FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
I WANNA HAVE 1100 DOLLARS AND FREE SHIPPING TO EUROPE
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: TheSwingSet on April 03, 2014, 02:20:17 PM
Like I Said It's a great deal.
I had the same size set up years ago but it was a vintage Tama Imperialstar set...do not know where it ended up as I left it in Brooklyn with the band Bad Wizard who were "borrowing" it. Never saw or heard from those guys again.
John Sherman who I let use them now drums for Red Fang and I have reached out over and over to get that set back!
I will say tuning a 15x14 Rack Tom can be a BITCH!
especially when playing live, it seemed like after every 2-3 songs I would have to re-tune it.

Regardless. Hope someone snatches this deal up.
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: deatheats on April 03, 2014, 03:16:19 PM
Please don't put your drums in the hands of a Rock n Roll band....Who'll throw it all away
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: Dumpster D on April 04, 2014, 03:35:24 AM
Same I have A rogers 15 Inch tom with staying in tune things.
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: black stallion on April 04, 2014, 01:20:31 PM
hey drumfreak,did you see this? i think it's a nice read!

http://tama.com/silverstar/daleCrover.html (http://tama.com/silverstar/daleCrover.html)
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 05, 2014, 06:30:09 AM
hey stallion,

yeah, I´ve already read it like...3 times :D
It´s really interesting but I still don´t understand his tuning technique..can somebody help me?:)
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: black stallion on April 05, 2014, 06:33:03 AM
Quote from: drumfreak:) on April 05, 2014, 06:30:09 AM
hey stallion,

yeah, I´ve already read it like...3 times :D
It´s really interesting but I still don´t understand his tuning technique..can somebody help me?:)

i can't help unfortunately. ask Dumpster D!
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: meezer on April 05, 2014, 07:05:08 AM
Quote from: black stallion on April 05, 2014, 06:33:03 AM
Quote from: drumfreak:) on April 05, 2014, 06:30:09 AM
hey stallion,

yeah, I´ve already read it like...3 times :D
It´s really interesting but I still don´t understand his tuning technique..can somebody help me?:)

i can't help unfortunately. ask Dumpster D!
I just joined a group of musicians, still not quite a band. I'm the only one who even had a clue how to set up the drums or tune them. Our "drummer" just started playing. He's over 45. He's actually got good rhythm and he can play the same groove for 10 minutes. So that's about where we're at. I learned the basics from YouTube videos. I didn't really learn much from that Tama blog thing. I hope Dale does a YouTube video on it, someday. Or not, if he doesn't want to. He's earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants, in my book.
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 09, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
one year went by and sadly this thread didn´t get any attention... :(
am i the only gear neard here?!:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3S0qx4rr2I
i deeply fell in love with that concert, just because of the drumset.
so...does anyone have a guess what sizes this could be?
i´m going for 24" bassdrum, 16" racktom and 18" floortom.
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: meezer on April 10, 2015, 12:22:14 AM
What did you think of the cocktail kit, at the Permanent Records gig? That should be in here. Hope they tour someday as Melvins Lite Lite, or whatever they called it.
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: Dumpster D on April 10, 2015, 02:25:20 AM
Naw, I wish they had the Clout to go back to being *Melvins SUPREME* with the wheel and deal Ear-Raping disgusting sound vomit and 110 Db of Ear piercing Jet-engine style PA system they had back in the day to bring along and practically double the Venues sound capacity.

But of course they have tamed it down in the best way possible for the right amount of intimacy at shows to really properly connect with an audience at a reasonable volume and an early night too.

Cant say I could withstand or subject myself to that type of Punishment for over a decade or more and still sweat balls and wrench my vocal cords and Tendons and tour and basically Run like a goddamn Tractor at that Age every six ways from Sunday.

That is hardened, these guys are tough nuts, Like take your best and double it Tough at any volume.

Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 10, 2015, 05:10:34 AM
We could start something like a dale drum encyclopedia...

Dumpster D : I really wish I could see them live as a three piece with kevin or joe...till now i only have been to one melvins concert (the 5 records tour) and although it was great, I didn't think that it was as loud or as impressive as it could have been.

I watched the record store concert on youtube now quite a few times and i think its great  these guys could play anywhere and make it sound good ;)
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: StrangerDanger on April 10, 2015, 05:43:49 AM
Dale can breack open a mans skull with one hit with them sticks of his, a hammer hit!
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: crushr24 on April 10, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Personal, I wish Dale would go back to the big, over size drum kit.  There's something about that deep thump!

(http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss3/crushr24/dale.jpg)

Also, Buzz needs to go back to the Les Paul Classic.  His tone is soooo different with that new 'tin can' aluminum guitar.
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 12, 2015, 06:54:57 AM
Yeah, me too.
It´s not that the tama starclassic sounds bad or something, but with it and the EGC-guitar their sound is just so much cleaner and kinda downgraded..
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: black stallion on April 12, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Dumpster D on April 10, 2015, 02:25:20 AM
Naw, I wish they had the Clout to go back to being *Melvins SUPREME* with the wheel and deal Ear-Raping disgusting sound vomit and 110 Db of Ear piercing Jet-engine style PA system they had back in the day to bring along and practically double the Venues sound capacity.



:love:
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: black stallion on April 12, 2015, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: crushr24 on April 10, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Personal, I wish Dale would go back to the big, over size drum kit.  There's something about that deep thump!

(http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss3/crushr24/dale.jpg)

Also, Buzz needs to go back to the Les Paul Classic.  His tone is soooo different with that new 'tin can' aluminum guitar.

:excited:
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 12, 2015, 11:56:48 AM
how the hell does dale mounts his crashers?
with some kind of hoop claws?
and if he does so, how does he stop them from rattling when he´s hitting the toms?
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: meezer on April 12, 2015, 01:52:01 PM
I got a small ribbon crasher. Hell if I know how to mount the thing. I don't want to spend a fortune on hardware. My drummers didn't like it, either.  :?
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: drumfreak:) on April 12, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
i know how to mount it but the only possible way to not have it rattling all the time is mounting it with a cymbal clamp on a cymbal stand. if i´m doing it like i think dale does it it rattles and rattles and rattles.
why didn´t they like it?
Title: Re: Dale Crovers Kits
Post by: meezer on April 12, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: drumfreak:) on April 12, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
i know how to mount it but the only possible way to not have it rattling all the time is mounting it with a cymbal clamp on a cymbal stand. if i´m doing it like i think dale does it it rattles and rattles and rattles.
why didn´t they like it?
Because they're pussies! Or not real drummers.  :P
At this point, I'm just lucky to have a human show up and play these damn things.  #-o