A Lot of people arent fully sold on These members of the band even now, but I mean Only because they are such a Close match to being equally heavy on their own.
honestly They worked their butts off and made it happen and the hard work paid off, Earned their place to play in the Melvins, who obviously have a good ear for talent, you dont pass that up...you Just dont do it.
Remember what a dream come true these two boys are to this band.
It was probly one of the best things to happen to the melvins, saved the day.
Lately Ive been playing the Big Biz Tour EP II and It Rules Ok. Its fucking badass heavy as hell, better *sounding* than their produced Albums in my oppinion...not that its better or worse, Just my ear likes the Cut and dry over the Glossy stock in the Full-lengths.
That EP is a Gem in my CD collection.
Kevin had left the Melvins and that could have been a near case of; All She wrote for a minute there.
Buzz was asked about that in a recent interview and made me realize Just how the whole Rutabega Rottenhaus thing went over for the band after youve Just put out some of your very best work to date.
Would KILL YA!!! YOU WOULD WANT TO CRAWL UP AND DIE!!!
Realize that without Big-biz to Breathe a new wind into the bands sails and help chart a new heading...that a lot of Great stuff you are now listening to was potentially like the Family photo from back to the future Starting to fade out of existance for a minute or two even. (not that the band would have been done completely at that point or anything by and stretch)
things may have gone in a way different direction than they took.
Look at how its Turned a fresh chapter for the band and allowed all the things that are happening now to happen.
Thank you Coady and Danger bass PLayin Daddy Jare.
We love you and miss you!!!
War on Wisdom is one of my top very most fav Melvins tunes ever ever.
XOXOX
i don't think they are out. just a break
I hope to hear more studio work from Big Melvins, for sure.
As for live, I don't know if I need to see double drummers anymore.
I'll find out next Saturday. I saw the 30th Anniversary Tour, last summer.
Same line-up, plus Coady.
I really appreciate the stability that Jared has brought to the band.
He became their longest tenured bass player last year.
For Buzz to have a partner on the non-percussion side of the band, who
can run his own band, sing lead vocals, write and play interesting bass parts and
the most important part - go away for a while. That's the key to making this work.
I think we've seen that this will be the format from now on.
I can't complain. I've enjoyed Freak Puke, Tres Cabrones, TMKA and now Hold It In
as much as Big Melvins.
Saw Big Business their last tour.. Freakin' Phenomenal!
Love them in Melvins also. I think ASA, NWB and the B&B EP are perfection..
I think it's good if Big Business are taking a break for a while. I mean Jared did just have a kid.
And I hope at sometime they can get back to collaborating. If that lies on the horizon, I can wait.
Battlefields Forever is a classic record in my opinion, and ASA got me into the Melvins.
"Without them, there would be no me."
I heard Big Business lately played as a two piece again? Is Scott also on a break, or busy with something else at the moment? I wonder if he will be joining Big Biz at their upcoming european tour.
Quote from: -xelA on May 06, 2081, 12:01:06 PM
I heard Big Business lately played as a two piece again? Is Scott also on a break, or busy with something else at the moment? I wonder if he will be joining Big Biz at their upcoming european tour.
That's a good question. I think Scott added a lot to the sound on Battlefields. Better than Toshi on The Drift, with his airy riffs.
Quote from: Alex- on October 19, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
I heard Big Business lately played as a two piece again? Is Scott also on a break, or busy with something else at the moment? I wonder if he will be joining Big Biz at their upcoming european tour.
Scott has had a bad back. He'll be up and about again soon.
More big biz, less big melvins? What does the future hold?
Quote from: Alex- on October 19, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
I heard Big Business lately played as a two piece again? Is Scott also on a break, or busy with something else at the moment? I wonder if he will be joining Big Biz at their upcoming european tour.
did they play live as two piece?
Quote from: black stallion on October 19, 2014, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Alex- on October 19, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
I heard Big Business lately played as a two piece again? Is Scott also on a break, or busy with something else at the moment? I wonder if he will be joining Big Biz at their upcoming european tour.
did they play live as two piece?
In Portland, a couple of weeks ago.
Big Business are great and they are formidable in the live department with Melvins but I hope it's over between them and Melvins. I mean look at the big picture here....they're Big Business NOT Melvins at the end of the day and I'm sure they get much more fulfilment artistically from creating their own stuff.
I hope BB go it alone because personally I think it's bands like Mastodan that should be supporting their shows.....but mainly because I much prefer Melvins without them. That's my opinion of course. But personally I think the collaboration on the road and in the studio has run it's course.
The new Melvins chapter is great.
Quote from: meezer on October 19, 2014, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: black stallion on October 19, 2014, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Alex- on October 19, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
I heard Big Business lately played as a two piece again? Is Scott also on a break, or busy with something else at the moment? I wonder if he will be joining Big Biz at their upcoming european tour.
did they play live as two piece?
In Portland, a couple of weeks ago.
And it was awesome....
And they ain't getting paid like buzz and dale either. They gotta make their own dough now.
Quote from: FartLips on October 19, 2014, 01:34:06 PM
More big biz, less big melvins? What does the future hold?
you wanna live forever or something, The bands are probly not going to be around for another three decades if thats what youre missing here.
seems to me thats what the future holds, the door we all step through in the end.
This is reality son.
Make your mark here on this earth instead of passing like a fart in the wind.
ass this much more to it fart, Melvins Made a lasting impression in a positive way to my life.
unlike a lot of others.
heres good advice from Honest Abe...
*I do good, I feel good.
I do bad, I feel bad.*
whats still even more...
If I was ever asked what Qualities I would want in a Boss
Mostly Buzz.
Butt Expect our Jobs to turn into this all day tho in no time;
Huh-huh-huh-huh.
What? :?
You obviously dont recognize the leadership qualities of a real man even if it takes 100Db Of Les paul feedback to get it through your head who is the king.
Big Biz boys got hired on..that was a challenge they were up to and faced and knocked down like the True professionals they are.
sometimes you see the good qualities of yourself Reflected in other people, I think Big Biz Really Resonated personally with the hogs.
It was a good work relationship and look how much it put the ball right to the back of that Glove between the two bands working together with eachother for the greater good of the band.
Thats why Big biz got the Job and Took it, They want to be the best they learn from the best and play with the best.
YOU WANTED IT YOU GOT IT, THE HOTTEST BAND IN THE WERRRRRLLLLLLLDD!!!!
*Crowd Goes fucking mental!!!*
has Buzz ever told something about Jared&Coady still being in the band or not?
yes, I think so.
*more is more* according to the Boss. 8)
in all honesty nothing can beat the current Melvins line up. with current line up i mean Buzz + Dale +" insert a name ". one word: TRIO
current bassist is great,though Jared was (is) really good as well
Very well said but I dont care if they hired the whole london philharmonic for a decade of touring..its THEIR choice and they know whats best.
Two Drummers is two Drummers no matter what thats Just more better...Its like how many other bands have a drummer that goes to Eleven. :?.
Whats more is that as a Fan I am finding it literally impossible to keep up to this band.
Thats exceptional. Name 3 other bands RIGHT now doing the same thing this band is doing...or has ever even DONE.
Amen.
Seriously, give it up for Coady and Jared man. :D
I think its hard to get attached to the bass player in this particular group. Poor Jared has a lot of that kind of thing to live up to.
and For christ sake, Coady Gets up on stage with Dale freakin Crover...come on!!!
Hard on the piss tonight huh Dumpster? :D
Every era of the Melvin's is defined by the bass player at the time. I miss Marks, Kevin,Joe, Lori etc...but then again Hold ItIn is an amazing record. Here's to the all the Melvin's contributions past, future and present..."raises glass"
Even Matt! :P
Sir David Scott Stone too!
I was reading an interview with Adam Jones the other day and realized how lucky we are to get a release a year but these releseasea are the real deal. No other band is as consistent as Melvin's. No one is close to how they reinvent themselves but also still have the fuel to continue for so long. New bassists helps I think, maybe they would've burnt out years ago if they kept the same bassist and still wrote houdini clones. Adam Jones mentioned legal bullshit, kids, maynard , indesecion all being excuses to why a still functioning band hasn't releases anything in almost 10 years. Its insane and thank fucknfor the Melvin's. Long may they dominate the underground!
Thanks Buzz, thanks Dale!
saw a tweet of Coady saying they are still in the Melvins
Quote from: meezer on October 20, 2014, 08:24:51 AM
Even Matt! :P
check out Mika's Mudhoney site: Matt and the Melvins
http://mudhoneysite.com/side_projectsother_bands_2/matt_lukin_and_melvins
they're great but i'm happy they have multiple line ups, it allows for more.
Uh...well, working with Buzz and Dale would probly drive you and challenge you harder than you could ever imagine.
like i said in another topic, i predict a fall 2015 album with the big bizzers!!
Quote from: anaconda on October 24, 2014, 01:41:46 AM
like i said in another topic, i predict a fall 2015 album with the big bizzers!!
And I predict that this year IS NOT the year I finally go see the Warped Tour! :P
Quote from: anaconda on October 24, 2014, 01:41:46 AM
like i said in another topic, i predict a fall 2015 album with the big bizzers!!
Melvin's could almost get a subscription plan done with all their consistent releases.....sign me up.
Im with Conda on this, something tells me it will be an all star tour de force if its gonna be anything.
Never Expect the next move, these guys are always Ten steps ahead of everyone.
HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZZY!!!??
AM I THE ONLY ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RULES?
WHAT THE KINGS SAYS GOES!!!!!!
BB is awesome, hands down, i appreciate their work by themselves and with the Melvs even more as the days grow colder
but for god's sake if you're that worried about pull up the youtube and watch a tour video,
and pull that pud
if it happens again great!
if it doesn't get over it.
Quote from: acid policy on October 21, 2014, 10:18:53 AM
they're great but i'm happy they have multiple line ups, it allows for more.
it took me 2 3/4 pages to actually find somebody with some uncommon sense.
it has never been announced that the BB are out of the band.
what makes more sense to me is that there will be more tours coming up, different lineups
and buzzo has mentioned several times that he wants to maybe have tours with 2-3 or god forbid 4 lineups
it could happen
but if it doesn't... well to bad
so take my advice,
and close your eyes,
put on some senile animal, or nude with boots
hope you don't toot
and if you still haven't pull one off,
listen to BSM or Bullz & Beez
and if that doesn't get you off then you're probably dead
I'm pretty sure Jared and Coady hold the record for longest amount of time playing with Buzz and Dale without getting fired. :D
I'm really looking forward to the next Belvins album. A Senile Animal and Nude With Boots are still two of my favorite records.
Quote from: Dumpster D on October 19, 2014, 06:38:36 AM
A Lot of people arent fully sold on These members of the band even now, but I mean Only because they are such a Close match to being equally heavy on their own.
honestly They worked their butts off and made it happen and the hard work paid off, Earned their place to play in the Melvins, who obviously have a good ear for talent, you dont pass that up...you Just dont do it.
Remember what a dream come true these two boys are to this band.
It was probly one of the best things to happen to the melvins, saved the day.
Lately Ive been playing the Big Biz Tour EP II and It Rules Ok. Its fucking badass heavy as hell, better *sounding* than their produced Albums in my oppinion...not that its better or worse, Just my ear likes the Cut and dry over the Glossy stock in the Full-lengths.
That EP is a Gem in my CD collection.
Kevin had left the Melvins and that could have been a near case of; All She wrote for a minute there.
Buzz was asked about that in a recent interview and made me realize Just how the whole Rutabega Rottenhaus thing went over for the band after youve Just put out some of your very best work to date.
Would KILL YA!!! YOU WOULD WANT TO CRAWL UP AND DIE!!!
Realize that without Big-biz to Breathe a new wind into the bands sails and help chart a new heading...that a lot of Great stuff you are now listening to was potentially like the Family photo from back to the future Starting to fade out of existance for a minute or two even. (not that the band would have been done completely at that point or anything by and stretch)
things may have gone in a way different direction than they took.
Look at how its Turned a fresh chapter for the band and allowed all the things that are happening now to happen.
Thank you Coady and Danger bass PLayin Daddy Jare.
We love you and miss you!!!
War on Wisdom is one of my top very most fav Melvins tunes ever ever.
XOXOX
Agreed. In my opinion
(a) Senile Animal is
Melvins masterpiece as well. I had the good fortune to thank Cody for joining Melvins and taking their music to a whole new level. Unfortunately Mr. Warren was far too drunk to take anything like that on. It was NYE!
Quote from: Yanayaya on October 25, 2014, 11:37:24 AMAgreed. In my opinion (a) Senile Animal is Melvins masterpiece as well.
It's an awesome album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uADoQoDfcNU
Top shelf.
I love each and every lineup this band has ever had. I do not ever want to see the end of Big Biz in Melvins, and I want as much variety in their lineups as they are willing to give.
I hope they have a break.
For new Fantomas.
With the recent news of the next planned Melvins records somewhat out there with Steve involved, i have a feeling that the days of Big Biz Melvins are long gone. I just can't really see that there will ever be another Melvins album with just the two of them again. Possibly a few tracks here and there like on Basses Loaded and ...Sausages but not a full studio release. Amazing to think that Bulls And The Bees (the last thing they put out together) is now 5 years ago! For the record i liked Senile, Nude and Bride but i think a change is good also.
As much as I like the newer releases the last real quality release they did was Bulls and the bees. Everythkng since then has had a good bit of filler. With the exception of The tres album. I really liked that one. I just don't see what the big deal is with Steve. I don't think he adds anything but a new level of goofiness that really hurts the dignity of the melvins to me. I know I'll probably get some shit for that but whatever. He doesn't add anything musically. I feel like anyone could have his tone, nothing stands out about it. Jared on the other hand, well, need I say more. I say this as a jaded fan who only wants a new big melvins album. Haha. I know the guy is talented and all. I've read an interview where Dale said he is the best bass player they've ever played with and that may be true. But when it comes to melvins songs I don't hear anything special
Surprised that with both Melvins and Murder City Devils playing Psycho Las Vegas there hasn't been speculation it might be Big Melvins lineup.
Quote from: dirtmerchant on February 19, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
As much as I like the newer releases the last real quality release they did was Bulls and the bees. Everythkng since then has had a good bit of filler. With the exception of The tres album. I really liked that one. I just don't see what the big deal is with Steve. I don't think he adds anything but a new level of goofiness that really hurts the dignity of the melvins to me. I know I'll probably get some shit for that but whatever. He doesn't add anything musically. I feel like anyone could have his tone, nothing stands out about it. Jared on the other hand, well, need I say more. I say this as a jaded fan who only wants a new big melvins album. Haha. I know the guy is talented and all. I've read an interview where Dale said he is the best bass player they've ever played with and that may be true. But when it comes to melvins songs I don't hear anything special
In the world of Melvins bass players, no one can top Jared's tone.
However, as far as musically, Steven's level of musical knowledge/ability/technique allows him to embellish the music with the use of harmony, melody and counterpoint on the bass in a classic bass player way (think of how rock bassists played in the late 60's - early 70's.). Jared is a master of tone and heaviness, his bass playing is incredibly tasteful and perfectly thick and fuzzy. Ain't nothing wrong with preferring one over the other - it is all about what you like to hear in music.
I remember back when Mark D joined the band and a real good friend of mine and massive Melvins fanatic HATED the bass playing on Stoner Witch. So much so that he didn't get back into the Melvins until Kevin joined. At the time I thought he was crazy, especially knowing that Buzz plays all kinds of bass on that album and Mark D plays guitar on it too. But, now that I am older and have a lot more years of playing bass under my belt, I HEAR what Mark is doing on the bass. He has a deep understanding of music theory as well (like Steve and Trevor). Hence his basslines contributing to the music in a different way than Matt, Joe, Lorax or Kevin.
And Kevin contributes in ways that Steven, Trevor and Mark D could never do.
They are all just different flavors of bad ass in my book of bass.
truth ^
If anyone saw the tour in '96 when they did 3 sets on their own you would understand how important Mark D was....
Quote from: GiveMe45 on February 19, 2017, 09:37:27 PM
If anyone saw the tour in '96 when they did 3 sets on their own you would understand how important Mark D was....
Fact.
MD rulz nuff said
Quote from: dirtmerchant on February 19, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
As much as I like the newer releases the last real quality release they did was Bulls and the bees. Everything since then has had a good bit of filler.
I would go further back than that! For me i think Nude With Boots was the last really good, consistent Melvins album. Although admittedly Freak Puke did get close.
I absolutely love that Bulls & The Bees EP I still listen to it regularly and must've listened to it nearly a 100 times now not only do I think it's the last great EP or album the band have released but I'd probably even rate it the Melvins best ever release even over HAT. That EP is just unique in the Melvins back catalogue.