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Title: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on February 18, 2018, 06:29:11 PM
Supposedly coming soon, gatefold editions for both albums.

midheaven.com
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullheadn
Post by: Jozzy on February 19, 2018, 11:15:16 AM
Ohhh, I have been holding off getting the reissue because I really am not a fan of them being packaged together and also wasn't a fan of how they looked. I hope this is for real!
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: (PAUL) on February 19, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
 :-k well since I got those twofers a while back I probably don't NEED this, but if it's like $10-12 maybe?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 20, 2018, 04:08:40 PM
FUCK YES finally no black borders!!
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: PepsiMike on February 20, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: Fureon Nectarmoon on February 20, 2018, 04:08:40 PM
FUCK YES finally no black borders!!
That's what I was thinking as well.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: tbang2391 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:32 AM
are they also remastered cause bullhead is really muddy in the 400 hz area  :? still their best from the early 90s
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on February 22, 2018, 05:44:31 PM
Quote from: tbang2391 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:32 AM
are they also remastered cause bullhead is really muddy in the 400 hz area  :? still their best from the early 90s

I have the two-fers, they sound awesome. They'll probably end up more collectable in 5-10 yrs. I'm not that much of a completist where I'd need to buy the single album versions too.
You must be referring to the Bullhead CD? Yeah, it's pretty thin, but if you turn the bass up all the way, it does the trick 8). The 2015 LP reissue sounds way better than the CD. These new reissues will be of the exact same sound quality as the two-fers.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: meezer on February 22, 2018, 09:33:07 PM
I've always thought if you record Bullhead on a tape at about a 6.5 - 7 recording level it compares pretty favorably with material from Eggnog and Lysol recorded at 5 or a bit lower.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: GrimReaper on February 23, 2018, 08:09:24 PM
I wonder why Tom Flynn put out the double releases? Maybe he was testing the interest before funding proper re-releases.

If that's the case, 10 Beers is probably correct.

Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on February 22, 2018, 05:44:31 PM
They'll probably end up more collectable in 5-10 yrs.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on February 23, 2018, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: GrimReaper on February 23, 2018, 08:09:24 PM
I wonder why Tom Flynn put out the double releases? Maybe he was testing the interest before funding proper re-releases.
I was thinking the same thing as well.  Probably figured it would sell, so why not?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 12, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
No ETA yet?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 13, 2018, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: Fureon Nectarmoon on April 12, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
No ETA yet?

What a coincidence! Just updated:
https://midheaven.com/item/ozma-by-melvins-cd
You can pre-order the Ozma gatefold LP for $17.50 + shipping.
eta: 4/27/18
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 13, 2018, 09:21:05 PM
Would like to get both and would prefer to order both at the same time.  Any word when Bullhead is up?  Might just make the voyage downtown to 2nd Ave Records.  They typically have any new Melvins release.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 13, 2018, 10:07:31 PM
Strangely the Bullhead lp isn't up yet, I'd assume it would be released along with the Ozma, but.. who knows.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Jozzy on April 26, 2018, 10:10:53 AM
I got an email from one of the people that works at Midheaven that my Ozma lp shipped yesterday. I asked if there was a date that the Bullhead lp was going to go up for pre-order, but have not got a reply back yet. If they do reply back I will post here when it is supposed to go up.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: GiveMe45 on April 26, 2018, 06:55:51 PM
I picked up Ozma at my usual shop last week.  They didn't have any info on Bullhead
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: (PAUL) on May 04, 2018, 07:23:20 PM
Looks like Bullhead has a 5/18 release date.

https://midheaven.com/item/bullhead-by-melvins-cd <- I know it says cd there but it has the preorder for the vinyl available on that page. I like their description of It's Shoved.

Quote"It's Shoved" is a groovy beat for the cast of Shindig to bop along to, until their carefree performances of The Pony, The Mashed Potato, and The Watusi are horribly interrupted by the soundstage tilting up and sliding them all into a mangled heap of screaming dancers, broken cameras and flaming electronic equipment at the bottom.

Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Jozzy on May 05, 2018, 11:21:46 AM
Thanks Paul! I got my copy Ozma a week or so ago, sounds great!
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: meezer on May 08, 2018, 12:45:15 AM
Tom Flynn - fakebook group

"And now comes Bullhead's turn for the vinyl reissue treatment. New gatefold cover. Put it on your turntable and pretend that you're Kurdt Kobain hearing it for the very first time (heroin is optional). Pre-order here: "

https://midheaven.com/item/bullhead-by-melvins-cd (https://midheaven.com/item/bullhead-by-melvins-cd)
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: jules on May 18, 2018, 02:47:01 AM
Mackie versions of Bullhead and Ozma available tonight in Cleveland:

(https://image.ibb.co/fOOz0d/bh.jpg)
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: deatheats on May 18, 2018, 09:43:08 AM
Ooh Pretty!
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 18, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
I wonder if it's colored vinyl?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: dirtmerchant on May 18, 2018, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 18, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
I wonder if it's colored vinyl?

I think the bullhead is green vinyl. Should have went with blue.
If Anyone on here is goin to that show tonight could pick me up a set of those I could pay you some cash or a tour/haze glow version of PAT. Long shot but figured I'd ask.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: buddy holiday on May 18, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 18, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
I wonder if it's colored vinyl?
these are colored (from fb). green and blue, I don't know which is which.... colored ones are only available from these letterpress editions on the road from the band. good luck to those who have a chance to get one!

anyone with success; please post pics...
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 18, 2018, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: buddy holiday on May 18, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 18, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
I wonder if it's colored vinyl?
these are colored (from fb). green and blue, I don't know which is which.... colored ones are only available from these letterpress editions on the road from the band. good luck to those who have a chance to get one!

anyone with success; please post pics...
Thanks buddy holiday. I wouldn't be surprised to see these show up in a bundle as well.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: buddy holiday on May 19, 2018, 08:02:51 AM
https://www.discogs.com/Melvins-Ozma/release/12020937

https://www.discogs.com/Melvins-Bullhead/release/12020904
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: vince furnier on May 19, 2018, 08:07:06 AM
Tom says on fakebook that he'll rerelease Lice-All and Eggnog separately too but it'll take a while.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: jules on June 01, 2018, 04:37:13 AM
Picked up Ozma and Bullhead today; the gatefold sleeves really do them justice, great work!


Quote from: vince furnier on May 19, 2018, 08:07:06 AM
Tom says on fakebook that he'll rerelease Lice-All and Eggnog separately too but it'll take a while.
Expect around this time next year.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Dumpster D on June 03, 2018, 04:51:32 PM
My guess is They will Re-press using the original Stampers, that would be a time and money saver too.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: DLaurel on June 07, 2018, 03:47:43 PM
This Boner reissue sucks....again. I've really had it with them. What's the coolest thing about vinyl? To me clearly the size of the cover artwork. And what do they do? They make the acutal art smaller (why on Earth would you do that????), put an ugly frame around it, and as a last straw pair it with another release, which I already have in its original form (Ozma). Now a second chance to make it right - and they fuck it up again. Before ordering, I just had a quick look on Discogs and the Bullhead reissue seemed to look fine. Unfrotunately, they have uploaded the original artwork, not the, as they proudly(?) call it, updated art. When my LP arrived, I wanted to throw it right out of the window. They made the letters bigger and the art smaller (again, WHY???), gave it a duller shade of blue than the original (or my bootleg, which I wanted to replace), and to top it off, there is a pink smudge on the front cover (I asked my dealer, and the other copy he has, has the same issue). How can you botch so many things at a time? Was it a wager or something? Beats me.

Third Man did it better, but not perfect either. What's cool about physical releases? The credits in the booklet/on the sleeve. So why did they remove the credits from the Stag reissue??? Makes no sense. And it's not really cool towards all the people who were metioned there.

Do the Melvins deserve these shitty reissues? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: John Schuller on June 07, 2018, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: DLaurel on June 07, 2018, 03:47:43 PM
This Boner reissue sucks....again. I've really had it with them. What's the coolest thing about vinyl? To me clearly the size of the cover artwork. And what do they do? They make the acutal art smaller (why on Earth would you do that????), put an ugly frame around it, and as a last straw pair it with another release, which I already have in its original form (Ozma). Now a second chance to make it right - and they fuck it up again. Before ordering, I just had a quick look on Discogs and the Bullhead reissue seemed to look fine. Unfrotunately, they have uploaded the original artwork, not the, as they proudly(?) call it, updated art. When my LP arrived, I wanted to throw it right out of the window. They made the letters bigger and the art smaller (again, WHY???), gave it a duller shade of blue than the original (or my bootleg, which I wanted to replace), and to top it off, there is a pink smudge on the front cover (I asked my dealer, and the other copy he has, has the same issue). How can you botch so many things at a time? Was it a wager or something? Beats me.

Third Man did it better, but not perfect either. What's cool about physical releases? The credits in the booklet/on the sleeve. So why did they remove the credits from the Stag reissue??? Makes no sense. And it's not really cool towards all the people who were metioned there.

Do the Melvins deserve these shitty reissues? I don't think so.

I'm not a fan of the way the albums were packaged together. Even less of a fan of the shitty pixelated images in the gatefolds.

But I do think for the single issues of Bullhead, Ozma, Houdini, Stoner Witch and Stag they have changed the artwork slightly to differentiate from the original releases?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on June 07, 2018, 07:15:52 PM
These details of the stand-alone Boner reissues probably don't concern the Melvins one bit. Buzz would probably say - if you don't like it, buy our $60 AmRep letterpress version at a show, or else pay $300 for an original pressing on ebay. :lol:

I don't have a major problem with the K-Tel versions, or the 3rdMan's. I'd give them both an 8/10.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: PepsiMike on June 08, 2018, 12:44:37 AM
Does anyone have pictures of the pixelated pictures from the boner release?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: jules on June 08, 2018, 05:05:45 AM
These are the latest gatefolds Bullhead and Ozma:

(https://image.ibb.co/dsvjco/DSC03097.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/iWeo3T/DSC03098.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/c8wqHo/DSC03099.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/dDpMOT/DSC03100.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/hYrCV8/DSC03101.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/gxF6q8/DSC03102.jpg)


(https://image.ibb.co/j52KA8/DSC03103.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/dpMeA8/DSC03104.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/iOgeA8/DSC03105.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/jxdgOT/DSC03106.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/jyAHxo/DSC03107.jpg)

Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Garnz on June 08, 2018, 07:09:22 AM
Quote from: jules on June 08, 2018, 05:05:45 AM
These are the latest gatefolds Bullhead and Ozma:


Thanks for the Photos! Looks worth to buy :-)
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: DLaurel on June 09, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on June 07, 2018, 04:24:54 PM

But I do think for the single issues of Bullhead, Ozma, Houdini, Stoner Witch and Stag they have changed the artwork slightly to differentiate from the original releases?
First of all, they come from two different labels. But I don't really see a pattern there. The cover artwork was changed only for Bullhead, as far as I can tell. And I think it really sucks:
(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180609/epmllwsc.jpg)

Damn, I love this fruit basket. And they make it smaller! And all the colours are less vibrant.
And to make things worse, there is this smudge I mentioned:
(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180609/29ewhisj.jpg)

I don't know, either they don't have quality control, or they don't care. What I do know is that if ever want to sell it like this (which I actually do, because I don't like this reissue) and won't mention this ahead, the buyer will probably see this and demand a 50% refund. I don't want to seem too anal, but...hell, aren't most record collectors?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: PepsiMike on June 09, 2018, 01:38:03 PM
Sorry, but you're being too anal. Just return the record and get the original.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: John Schuller on June 09, 2018, 05:27:09 PM
The artwork is different on the Third Man records as well. Same with Ozma.

It looks like the images in the gatefolds are much better on these. Might be time to trade up.

And yeah, if you want an original, they have a bunch on Discogs all of the time.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: DeeSonyaChin on June 09, 2018, 06:27:32 PM
18 dollar record and you are worried about resale.  :lol:

Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Dumpster D on June 09, 2018, 09:17:00 PM
 
These records are clearly for people who have been bitching about overpriced Limited Vinyls, and you're still going to find something else to gripe about.

On what planet is that ok?

How does the Record actually SOUND? dare I ask a rhetorical question.




Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: ))))(((( on June 10, 2018, 02:58:36 AM
Quote from: DLaurel on June 09, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
Damn, I love this fruit basket. And they make it smaller! And all the colours are less vibrant.
I completely disagree. I think the new cover is a vast improvement over the original. Much more coherence and a clearer design than the previous, horribly garish artwork.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Fureon Nectarmoon on June 10, 2018, 07:58:05 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 10, 2018, 02:58:36 AM
Quote from: DLaurel on June 09, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
Damn, I love this fruit basket. And they make it smaller! And all the colours are less vibrant.
I completely disagree. I think the new cover is a vast improvement over the original. Much more coherence and a clearer design than the previous, horribly garish artwork.
Well the original is supposed to be kitschy. I remember that they found that image on a tablecloth or something like that.

Personally, I didn't even notice they made the fruit basket smaller.
I'm sort of against that too, but it still works with the new design.
Even if the basket is smaller it just kinda fits.
Definitely doesn't look botched and castrated like the black-bordered edition did.
I still want to buy it.

The only problem with Ozma is that they didn't put the lyrics in the gatefold.
But it's not a deal breaker either.

Most importantly, the sound has been improved  :)
Before that, I've always thought Ozma and Bullhead were two albums that really needed a remaster.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: vince furnier on June 10, 2018, 08:33:41 AM
you guys (and gal?  :-k ) just can't see the salad of a thousand delights for the fruit basket.  [-X
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Buttcakefred on June 10, 2018, 03:44:53 PM
The original boner reissues, despite not having a very pleasing presentation packaging wise were very well pressed, flat and dead quiet. Those third man reissues were really pieces of shit in comparison.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: DLaurel on June 11, 2018, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: PepsiMike on June 09, 2018, 01:38:03 PM
Sorry, but you're being too anal. Just return the record and get the original.
I can't return it, because I unwrapped it (yes, should have had a closer look first). I'm keeping the bootleg (which I believed to be the original when I bought, but it sounds really good).
Quote from: sadcorps on June 09, 2018, 05:27:09 PM
The artwork is different on the Third Man records as well. Same with Ozma.
The changes are so cosmetic, I wouldn't have noticed. Unless of course you mean the expansion to gatefolds. Which apparently they fucked up too by not including the cat photo in Ozma, which is just about the coolest Melvins pic ever. Way to re-release...
 
Quote from: DeeSonyaChin on June 09, 2018, 06:27:32 PM
18 dollar record and you are worried about resale.  :lol:
Actually it cost me more, I'm based in Europe. It's just kind of annoying, I already have a whole bunch of records lying around that no one wants to buy even at bargain prices.
Quote from: Dumpster D on June 09, 2018, 09:17:00 PM
These records are clearly for people who have been bitching about overpriced Limited Vinyls,
Exactly. It was a long-awaited reissue. The first time around they fucked it up big time, and the second time around they still fucked it up. On what planet is it not okay to be annoyed? I don't know how it sounds, by the way, I had no reason to put it on. Besides, if I have an album on my computer, I mostly listen to MP3s nowadays and buy records mainly for my tactile and visual pleasure.

Quote from: Fureon Nectarmoon on June 10, 2018, 07:58:05 AM
Well the original is supposed to be kitschy.
Exactly. Of course it's a matter of taste, but I love it and I love this shade of blue.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: baruk on June 12, 2018, 11:22:44 PM
Held off on buying the two-fer reissue...is the pressing quality the same for the double bullhead/ozma and the single gatefold editions for each of the albums?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: vince furnier on December 18, 2022, 07:39:54 AM
something's brewing.....  :-k

(https://i.postimg.cc/tZjYpZW1/tom-flynn-boner-remix-screenshot.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZjYpZW1)

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4V8NW5y/tom-flynn-boner-remix-screenshot.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Dumpster D on December 18, 2022, 03:44:56 PM
wow! Those Ampex boxes are prehistoric, would be miraculous if those tapes are even holding up still.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on December 18, 2022, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: Dumpster D on December 18, 2022, 03:44:56 PM
wow! Those Ampex boxes are prehistoric, would be miraculous if those tapes are even holding up still.

They'll probably need to be baked. Many of the recent Zappa releases were pulled from tapes 20 years older or more than that. It's a long tedious process, but it can be done. Joe Travers said with some of those Zappa tapes, they were baked/played once and transferred/digitized simultaneously. So if it didn't work the first time, you'd basically lose everything.
Hopefully they were stored well. In the recent SST book, it was stated that the reason why you'll never see any of those early '80s classic SST releases re-issued/re-mastered is because the tapes were stored in such horrible climate/conditions and most didn't survive.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: vince furnier on December 18, 2022, 06:19:34 PM
Tom pointed out that the full tracklist (not shown here) has a track dedicated to the amp fan for the SVT bass amp. maybe for noise cancelling purposes?
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: rimb on December 18, 2022, 11:39:34 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on December 18, 2022, 06:19:34 PM
Tom pointed out that the full tracklist (not shown here) has a track dedicated to the amp fan for the SVT bass amp. maybe for noise cancelling purposes?

Instant drone classic!

:lol:
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: ODB3 on December 22, 2022, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: vince furnier on December 18, 2022, 06:19:34 PM
Tom pointed out that the full tracklist (not shown here) has a track dedicated to the amp fan for the SVT bass amp. maybe for noise cancelling purposes?

The first sound on the album to start Vile is the miced up amp fan.  The bass guitar amp was a Mesa Boogie Bass 400+, not an svt.  They're heavy fuckers to move around.  Pinkus sold his 400 that he used for 30+ years during the pandemic and I wanted to buy it.
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: baruk on May 14, 2023, 11:10:13 AM
Interesting thing on the handwritten track titles: I wonder if  'clawed' was supposed to be spelled that way versus how it came out on the release ('Claude').
Title: Re: Tom Flynn - thevinylguide.com
Post by: PepsiMike on February 27, 2024, 07:37:20 AM
Tom talks about boner, melvins, and more.

https://www.thevinylguide.com/episodes/ep438-tom-flynn-of-boner-records
Title: Re: Boner Records Re-releases Ozma and Bullhead
Post by: vince furnier on February 27, 2024, 09:59:38 AM
Quote from: PepsiMike on February 27, 2024, 07:37:20 AMTom talks about boner, melvins, and more.

https://www.thevinylguide.com/episodes/ep438-tom-flynn-of-boner-records
missed opportunity to call it The Bone Zone  :buzz: