Melvins turn 40 next year so I thought this would be good to keep hold of anything pertaining to the Ruby.
Greg Werckman has vaguely commented on next year's tours being booked but I'm curious if there are plans for special occasions of any kind. Not necessarily because 40 is such a big deal but they weren't doing too many "specials" in recent years before the break.
Stuff like opening up for themselves as '83 for the 25th anniversary or fusing a Melvins Lite set with Big Melvins, Grumpy's, curating ATP, let alone the Residencies and numerous blowouts at GAMH with all that Ipecac cross-pollination happening. Plus Jello!
The Pinkus Abortion double bass lineup was also fun and hearing it live had me mulling over the rich lineup possibilities we have at this stage. It doesn't need to be a full-on tour but imagine a couple nights with all those heads playing together as an amorphous blob of Melvins. Shit, they might even get Leary out of the house.
In a 2013 thread gathering questions for an interview, GrimReaper asked:
Quote from: GrimReaper on August 15, 2013, 12:31:31 AM
5) After 30 years most bands are rehashing the "hits" at the Indian Casino amplitheaters. Where will the Melvins be in 2023 during a 40th anniversary tour?
I think it's fair to ask that again, not lastly because setlists have been a general point of discussion.
The possibilities are vast, the catalogue is deep, and I'm willing to drop good money on celebrating those old fucks.
I am betting they will have a tour, tour posters and a shirt - but outside of that? They just did a 4 album acoustic tribute to themselves.
I remember going to the 20th anniversary tour and getting a T-shirt. I remember going to the 30th anniversary tour and getting a poster.
Not to rain on the parade but Buzz (and therefore by extension Dale) never seems bothered about milestones. It doesn't seem to factor into his plans. Also i remember in a recent interview a couple of months ago Buzz said that "next year i will probably do a large tour with Trevor Dunn". So we may not see much Melvins touring at all. Perhaps 2023 will be what 2020 should have been. A year where Buzz goes on the road with Trevor whilst Dale and Steven do the Redd Kross thing. Still i agree, it would be nice for them to do at least a couple of 40 year shows and make it special in some way.
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 09, 2022, 05:23:09 PM
Not to rain on the parade but Buzz (and therefore by extension Dale) never seems bothered about milestones. It doesn't seem to factor into his plans. Also i remember in a recent interview a couple of months ago Buzz said that "next year i will probably do a large tour with Trevor Dunn". So we may not see much Melvins touring at all. Perhaps 2023 will be what 2020 should have been. A year where Buzz goes on the road with Trevor whilst Dale and Steven do the Redd Kross thing. Still i agree, it would be nice for them to do at least a couple of 40 year shows and make it special in some way.
With Redd Kross putting out the Neurotica re-issue and them not really getting to do any touring after Beyond the Door came out, I am hoping to get some Redd Kross touring - or at least LA shows!!!
They'll start playing swanky gigs at the Casino's like ZZ top. 8) :P
I was at the 20th in Olympia, with an old workmate of mine. Can't remember how he ended up driving to Olympia. :-k I think I had blow & go in my vehicles and wanted to drink.
Fitz of Depression and Mudhoney.
Buzz tried to tackle Mark on stage and he got away!
Quote from: GrimReaper on May 09, 2022, 11:04:05 PM
I was at the 20th in Olympia, with an old workmate of mine. Can't remember how he ended up driving to Olympia. :-k I think I had blow & go in my vehicles and wanted to drink.
Fitz of Depression and Mudhoney.
Buzz tried to tackle Mark on stage and he got away!
That was a killer show!!!!
I remember some knucklehead ruined Hung Bunny too! We never got the end of it!
What happened?
Quote from: Dumpster D on May 12, 2022, 06:07:00 PM
What happened?
I think it was a stage diver that bumped into Buzzo if I remember right. Then Buzz said something to the effect of "Take your violence to the streets!"
Quote from: sadcorps on May 10, 2022, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: GrimReaper on May 09, 2022, 11:04:05 PM
I was at the 20th in Olympia, with an old workmate of mine. Can't remember how he ended up driving to Olympia. :-k I think I had blow & go in my vehicles and wanted to drink.
Fitz of Depression and Mudhoney.
Buzz tried to tackle Mark on stage and he got away!
That was a killer show!!!!
I remember some knucklehead ruined Hung Bunny too! We never got the end of it!
I don't remember them playing Hung Bunny at this show. I have the setlist from that night and it's not on there. I have a recording of the Portland show from a few nights before and they didn't play it then either. I don't think they played it on that tour. Sure it's not from another tour?
they could give a big nod to their heroes, The Who.... and make it exclusively in Quadrophenia! :buzz:
Quote from: sadcorps on May 14, 2022, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Dumpster D on May 12, 2022, 06:07:00 PM
What happened?
I think it was a stage diver that bumped into Buzzo if I remember right. Then Buzz said something to the effect of "Take your violence to the streets!"
Hung Bunny isn't exactly 'stage diving' music. :-k
Quote from: Dumpster D on May 15, 2022, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on May 14, 2022, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Dumpster D on May 12, 2022, 06:07:00 PM
What happened?
I think it was a stage diver that bumped into Buzzo if I remember right. Then Buzz said something to the effect of "Take your violence to the streets!"
Hung Bunny isn't exactly 'stage diving' music. :-k
This guy would do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpaI8k1Z4-c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpaI8k1Z4-c)
I've been deliberately kicked in the head by a few stage divers in my day. :D
Actually now that I think about it some dude did stage dive during Hung Bunny when I saw them do the evening with set in 2013. No one caught him and he smacked the ground hard.
Dude was also was whacked out on all kinds of drugs and got kicked out before the second set. He legit forgot how to open a door so he tried to climb over it.
meh. Octogenarian or GTFO!
https://youtu.be/hOvLWSh8TZc
The 20th felt more special than subsequent milestone years. The PNW tour with Mudhoney (I was at the PDX stop) and the boss book was really cool.
50th is coming up in just 11 years!!
Quote from: sadcorps on May 19, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
50th is coming up in just 11 years!!
Lets hope they make that milestone too. Buzz would be 69 and Dale 65!!! I guess that would be pretty much the latter stages of the band if they indeed did make it.
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 20, 2022, 09:47:20 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on May 19, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
50th is coming up in just 11 years!!
Lets hope they make that milestone too. Buzz would be 69 and Dale 65!!! I guess that would be pretty much the latter stages of the band if they indeed did make it.
I just saw Paul McCartney kill it for 2.5 hours at 5 days shy of 80. I can see the Melvins trying to do the next weird thing by outliving every single other musician and band out there. I can see it being the year 2063 and Buzz saying "No band has ever been around as long as us. Period."
Quote from: sadcorps on May 21, 2022, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 20, 2022, 09:47:20 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on May 19, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
50th is coming up in just 11 years!!
Lets hope they make that milestone too. Buzz would be 69 and Dale 65!!! I guess that would be pretty much the latter stages of the band if they indeed did make it.
I just saw Paul McCartney kill it for 2.5 hours at 5 days shy of 80. I can see the Melvins trying to do the next weird thing by outliving every single other musician and band out there. I can see it being the year 2063 and Buzz saying "No band has ever been around as long as us. Period."
I would love that to be the case. I can definitely see that being the kind of thing that he would not only say but also be super proud of stating too.
QuoteI can see it being the year 2063 and Buzz saying "No band has ever been around as long as us. Period."
God I hope so! I will be in the audience, also old as fuck
Oh! Another idea, maybe they can build up a huge vault of audio and video, leave it to their estate and then slowly trickle it out over time so that in our lifetime, Melvins releases will never stop. Or maybe they'll freeze Buzz's head and use AI to predict the next song that he would come up. Im so high right now. Are these good ideas?
How about The Melvins 'Beyond Thunderdome'
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on May 23, 2022, 10:25:26 AM
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
I wouldn't attempt that kind of project unless the money was being brought to my door in a dump truck (and no one wants to pay for music anymore which might be part of it)... If I really want to hear whats on those tapes I'd send them five bucks and wait another 40 years.
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on May 23, 2022, 10:25:26 AM
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
I'm on the fence about it - one the one hand I fully get the Zappa heads that want to hear every note from every tour but I think it's starting to saturate.
I can't sit through four 1971 Mothers shows for enjoyment, maybe to study them on a good day at the most
Seems like Ahmet and Joe Travers are milking it to the last drop, seeing as anybody else of authority has either died or been ousted.
Quote from: Oscar on June 15, 2022, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on May 23, 2022, 10:25:26 AM
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
I'm on the fence about it - one the one hand I fully get the Zappa heads that want to hear every note from every tour but I think it's starting to saturate.
I can't sit through four 1971 Mothers shows for enjoyment, maybe to study them on a good day at the most
Seems like Ahmet and Joe Travers are milking it to the last drop, seeing as anybody else of authority has either died or been ousted.
I am a Zappa freak. I keep buying all of the new vinyl they put out, I can barely keep up! Between Zappa and the Melvins always putting out records, I am gonna be in the poor house!
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Oscar on June 15, 2022, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on May 23, 2022, 10:25:26 AM
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
I'm on the fence about it - one the one hand I fully get the Zappa heads that want to hear every note from every tour but I think it's starting to saturate.
I can't sit through four 1971 Mothers shows for enjoyment, maybe to study them on a good day at the most
Seems like Ahmet and Joe Travers are milking it to the last drop, seeing as anybody else of authority has either died or been ousted.
I am a Zappa freak. I keep buying all of the new vinyl they put out, I can barely keep up! Between Zappa and the Melvins always putting out records, I am gonna be in the poor house!
Damn, there will be probably be new releases from both of them dropping long after you've dropped. Which is where the cryogenically frozen Buzz head comes in.
I've become a lot more selective with releases like that but I had to go for the Halloween '73 box and the Roxy performances. Still trying to get my hands on the last '88 show vinyl because I've been streaming the dog shit out of that one.
Quote from: Oscar on June 17, 2022, 01:14:21 PM
Damn, there will be probably be new releases from both of them dropping long after you've dropped. Which is where the cryogenically frozen Buzz head comes in.
I forget whether it was Buzz or Dale, but i remember one of them saying they are not the kind of band that have unused material. So i guess it will only be live stuff that can get the post-death Melvins treatment.
Quote from: Oscar on June 17, 2022, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Oscar on June 15, 2022, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on May 23, 2022, 10:25:26 AM
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
I'm on the fence about it - one the one hand I fully get the Zappa heads that want to hear every note from every tour but I think it's starting to saturate.
I can't sit through four 1971 Mothers shows for enjoyment, maybe to study them on a good day at the most
Seems like Ahmet and Joe Travers are milking it to the last drop, seeing as anybody else of authority has either died or been ousted.
I am a Zappa freak. I keep buying all of the new vinyl they put out, I can barely keep up! Between Zappa and the Melvins always putting out records, I am gonna be in the poor house!
Damn, there will be probably be new releases from both of them dropping long after you've dropped. Which is where the cryogenically frozen Buzz head comes in.
I've become a lot more selective with releases like that but I had to go for the Halloween '73 box and the Roxy performances. Still trying to get my hands on the last '88 show vinyl because I've been streaming the dog shit out of that one.
That 88 show is great! I just got the new Fillmore June 1971 and Rainbow triple LP sets in the mail. I must have preordered them and then forgot? Because I bought them on release day at the record store. Jesus!
Buzz touches on plans for the 40th here at 12:20:
https://soundcloud.com/bax-obrien/baxies-musical-podcast-buzz-osbourne-from-the-melvins
I didn't see this thread until today. It's a way, way different story with Zappa. They're not milking it at all. The variety in the bands and arrangements mean that every tour - heck, every night of the tour - is a new and original thing. The vault is filled with legitimate top-quality stuff. Oh, and a bunch of crap from the 80's. :D
Quote from: John Schuller on June 17, 2022, 10:47:37 PM
Quote from: Oscar on June 17, 2022, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Oscar on June 15, 2022, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on May 23, 2022, 10:25:26 AM
so, kind of along those lines, what do all you fine folk here at this place think of the zappo family trust doing that very same thing with his vaulted recordings?
hmm?!!
interested in responses
I'm on the fence about it - one the one hand I fully get the Zappa heads that want to hear every note from every tour but I think it's starting to saturate.
I can't sit through four 1971 Mothers shows for enjoyment, maybe to study them on a good day at the most
Seems like Ahmet and Joe Travers are milking it to the last drop, seeing as anybody else of authority has either died or been ousted.
I am a Zappa freak. I keep buying all of the new vinyl they put out, I can barely keep up! Between Zappa and the Melvins always putting out records, I am gonna be in the poor house!
Damn, there will be probably be new releases from both of them dropping long after you've dropped. Which is where the cryogenically frozen Buzz head comes in.
I've become a lot more selective with releases like that but I had to go for the Halloween '73 box and the Roxy performances. Still trying to get my hands on the last '88 show vinyl because I've been streaming the dog shit out of that one.
That 88 show is great! I just got the new Fillmore June 1971 and Rainbow triple LP sets in the mail. I must have preordered them and then forgot? Because I bought them on release day at the record store. Jesus!
Oops, it looks like I replied to an Oscar who has left the building. Oh well, the thread awaits his return.
well i am the biggest zappa freak that i know. actually not many of the people i know care for him at all let alone like his music to a degree that they would be interested in even hearing all of his studio albums. I just can't keep up economically. so what i end up doing is maybe once a year or once every other year i will use like 100$ in credit points to splurge on several of the posthumous cd releases purchased at a discount from amazon. and what i found out this past year is that i can't make it through those releases like i used to be able to. i bought 6 double cds 4 months ago or so and have only been able to get through 3 and a half of them so far. but they are for sure top notch releases. I think i've just hit my personal threshold and think i can maybe get through one a month. by the way, anyone else in here donate to the alex winter Zappa movie/vault preservation kickstarter years ago? well i did, and i got a t-shirt and a bunch of other CRAP and my name in the credits. also anyone here seen the movie and what do you think?
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on February 09, 2023, 09:12:39 AM
well i am the biggest zappa freak that i know. actually not many of the people i know care for him at all let alone like his music to a degree that they would be interested in even hearing all of his studio albums. I just can't keep up economically. so what i end up doing is maybe once a year or once every other year i will use like 100$ in credit points to splurge on several of the posthumous cd releases purchased at a discount from amazon. and what i found out this past year is that i can't make it through those releases like i used to be able to. i bought 6 double cds 4 months ago or so and have only been able to get through 3 and a half of them so far. but they are for sure top notch releases. I think i've just hit my personal threshold and think i can maybe get through one a month. by the way, anyone else in here donate to the alex winter Zappa movie/vault preservation kickstarter years ago? well i did, and i got a t-shirt and a bunch of other CRAP and my name in the credits. also anyone here seen the movie and what do you think?
I did not donate to the Kickstarter, but saw the film and have the soundtrack boxset. It was well done!!!!
Yeah, if I were to buy the CD releases they have been putting out, there is no way that I could keep up! There is a LOT of music in those.
I am barely keeping up with the vinyl releases!!!
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on February 09, 2023, 09:12:39 AM
well i am the biggest zappa freak that i know. actually not many of the people i know care for him at all
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I only know a couple people who like him at all, which is probably why I bug you guys about him so much. Even the "more discerning than average" music fans I know aren't on board.
Quotewhat i found out this past year is that i can't make it through those releases like i used to be able to. i bought 6 double cds 4 months ago or so and have only been able to get through 3 and a half of them so far. but they are for sure top notch releases. I think i've just hit my personal threshold and think i can maybe get through one a month.
Yup. I realized the other day that I still haven't heard the entire Mothers 1971 set yet, and I bought that the day it came out. Mind you, 8 discs is a big chunk of content to take in. I also find it difficult to stop once I'm in a Zappa listening phase -- same with Beefheart; same with jazz -- so I have to consciously switch things up.
Quoteby the way, anyone else in here donate to the alex winter Zappa movie/vault preservation kickstarter years ago? well i did, and i got a t-shirt and a bunch of other CRAP and my name in the credits. also anyone here seen the movie and what do you think?
I liked it fine but I wish it had more insider stuff. It does what it set out to do, I think: appeal to the general public and maybe pique some interest.
I love that this Melvins related thread was hi-jacked into a Zappa topic, and I didn't even start it. :lol: I'm anxiously waiting for a MOT-F project/object style box set. Yes, the Thing-Fish demos, more live versions than what's on YCDTOSA, and everything left off the original release in all it's glory, along w/ an original vinyl re-release. Not joking. :o
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on February 10, 2023, 07:31:48 PM
I love that this Melvins related thread was hi-jacked into a Zappa topic, and I didn't even start it. :lol: I'm anxiously waiting for a MOT-F project/object style box set. Yes, the Thing-Fish demos, more live versions than what's on YCDTOSA, and everything left off the original release in all it's glory, along w/ an original vinyl re-release. Not joking. :o
14 CDs of Francisco Zappa outtakes :)