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Title: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: ))))(((( on April 16, 2024, 04:01:57 PM
There are at least 3 times riffs have been reused identically in other songs that i know of. Are there any more?

1.
The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead
A History Of Bad Men

2.
Dawn Of The Locusts
Bummer Conversation

3.
Bird Animal
Pain Equals Funny
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: black stallion on April 16, 2024, 04:43:10 PM
that song from the first Buzz solo album and the At The Stake version on Five Legged Dog?
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: neverabreak on April 19, 2024, 03:10:03 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 16, 2024, 04:01:57 PMA History Of Bad Men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXQfwDmSo_w&t=30s
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: neverabreak on April 19, 2024, 03:17:10 AM
Pain Equals Funny (from ~ 10:00) <> Boris
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: z on April 19, 2024, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 16, 2024, 04:01:57 PM1.
The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead
A History Of Bad Men
Chromed Smoke (from A Purge of Dissidents soundtrack)

Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: the bloat on April 19, 2024, 01:51:31 PM
QuoteChromed Smoke (from A Purge of Dissidents soundtrack)

Didn't know Melvins had tunes on this soundtrack. How does one listen to this soundtrack? Not finding it on any streaming services
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: z on April 19, 2024, 02:13:08 PM
Here's the CD/DVD set (available elsewhere too):

https://www.discogs.com/release/1329247-Haze-XXL-Dalek-A-Purge-Of-Dissidents (https://www.discogs.com/release/1329247-Haze-XXL-Dalek-A-Purge-Of-Dissidents)


Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 12:59:52 AM
wonder if this thing is intentional or not, probably Buzz wants to confuse or piss fans off a bit
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: amazonAMAZON on May 08, 2024, 01:57:30 AM
I'm convinced that "Pain = Funny" was at least partly assembled from Roy and Dale playing actual Melvins tunes. Like there's obviously Boris happening there. But I also think I hear something from Stag and something from Lysol.
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: ))))(((( on May 08, 2024, 04:05:10 AM
It wasn't too clear, but in one of the recent interviews Buzz said something about Toshi made a rock mix of Bird Animal when they were doing Gift Of Sacrifice. That this is the version we hear at the start of the song. So how formed that was is anyone's guess. From how they said it i couldn't tell if Toshi recorded that bit and then kept it by accident and then Buzz heard it more recently and included it as the intro to the song.


Quote from: amazonAMAZON on May 08, 2024, 01:57:30 AMLike there's obviously Boris happening there.
It's definitely got that Boris thing that Buzz was doing on the last Melvins tour. Where he would play it super slow and on his own at the end of the song.
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 05:54:22 AM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on May 08, 2024, 01:57:30 AMI'm convinced that "Pain = Funny" was at least partly assembled from Roy and Dale playing actual Melvins tunes. Like there's obviously Boris happening there. But I also think I hear something from Stag and something from Lysol.

ah,that would make things possibly weirder than what already are



Quote from: ))))(((( on May 08, 2024, 04:05:10 AMIt wasn't too clear, but in one of the recent interviews Buzz said something about Toshi made a rock mix of Bird Animal when they were doing Gift Of Sacrifice. That this is the version we hear at the start of the song. So how formed that was is anyone's guess. From how they said it i couldn't tell if Toshi recorded that bit and then kept it by accident and then Buzz heard it more recently and included it as the intro to the song.



My least favourite part of the album
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: ))))(((( on May 08, 2024, 06:22:48 AM
Quote from: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 05:54:22 AMMy least favourite part of the album
Do you think you might like it more if the solo song had never existed? I keep wondering that about myself, i think part of why i don't like it is because it refers back. It's like if they put out a new song that featured the beginning of Honey Bucket or something.
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 06:30:26 AM
i like the album, though that part is just generic and sounds a bit "gay" to my ears...also this thing to recycle riffs contrasts with Buzz opinion that all artists except Melvins are lazy, don't you think?
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: ))))(((( on May 08, 2024, 06:36:31 AM
Quote from: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 06:30:26 AMi like the album, though that part is just generic and sounds a bit "gay" to my ears...also this thing to recycle riffs contrasts with Buzz opinion that all artists except Melvins are lazy, don't you think?
Yes, i know what you mean on both counts. It's an odd song how it starts like that then ends up somewhere else. Maybe Toshi just presented him with the old recording and Buzz simply decided to not discard it. I can imagine him being "we worked on that so i'm not going to NOT use it".
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 06:43:58 AM
I think that Buzz and Dale wanted to release an album without having too much time to spend in the studio and/or in the songwriting process, result is still good but a little weird , like a copy paste, especially the first track. also drums seem not totally in synch with the music at times
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: amazonAMAZON on May 08, 2024, 12:41:36 PM
I'm normally super anti-rehashing riffs and covering your own songs. Melvins generally get a pass.
On Tarantula Heart especially I don't think it was lazy. The album is a new work, moreso than Electroretard or Five Legged Dog.

The unconventional approach and some of the disjointedness is part of its charm. I like the whole narrative, both what Buzz has said in interviews and what we obsessives can speculate. We know that Dale suffered an injury, and yet they managed to make a new album with what was available.

It may take a few more listens before I stop being distracted by the "how" or "why" in some places and just feel the "where" of this record.
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 01:50:32 PM
i think Dale's injury happened after TH was recorded. btw i agree the unconventional approach is part of the charm. i like the new album, i think also that after so many great releases Buzz is free to do whatever he wants
Title: Re: Melvins songs that reuse the same riff
Post by: ))))(((( on May 08, 2024, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: black stallion on May 08, 2024, 01:50:32 PMi think Dale's injury happened after TH was recorded.
Well he may have been a little hindered but yes they didn't discover his injury and his need for surgery until quite a while AFTER the album had been recorded.