I was listening to the latest Conan Neutron podcast with Buzz yesterday. Near the end where upcoming things get mentioned Buzz says "were getting Coady back in the band". Also new material with Coady and special live plans. Here is a link: https://youtu.be/1vbjEDYFw_c?si=cv3NnibI-3UxRBew
Really exciting news. Now if this is for one tour and a release or for the foreseeable future I don't know, but from hearing how Buzz mentioned it I do really think we might get the double drumming back. I couldn't find anything already being mentioned on the forum so started a new thread for this.
Yeah Buzz has mentioned it in a few recent interviews so it seems a done deal. It's kinda funny to think it probably wouldn't have happened if Dale hadn't been temporarily out of commission. I wonder how Jared would feel about all this. Would he mind not being invited back. I'll guess they will record sometime this year and release/tour with Coady in 2025.
Hopefully not as a replacement for Crover. Dale's missed the last two Melvins tours and he's going to tour with his solo band in August, not drumming obviously.
Still seems really weird the Melvins not touring to promote a new album, Melvins 1983 excluded. I wouldn't be surprised if another 1983 album happens soon as Dale won't need to drum for that either.
Quote from: Bigval on April 24, 2024, 07:38:57 AMHopefully not as a replacement for Crover. Dale's missed the last two Melvins tours and he's going to tour with his solo band in August, not drumming obviously.
Still seems really weird the Melvins not touring to promote a new album, Melvins 1983 excluded. I wouldn't be surprised if another 1983 album happens soon as Dale won't need to drum for that either.
When Buzz said "we're" getting Coady back in the band I read it as Buzz and Dale as that is the core of the band. But perhaps he ment differently, hope not.
Almost seems like this is what they'd wanted ten years ago, keep Coady but ditch Jared. Now with this injury and your they have the excuse to say "hey this is working" without it ruffling too many feathers. Not thatBuzz would care, likely. But Dale and Coady might (if Buzz had told only Jared to fuck off after Bulls & Bees). Am I making any sense?
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 24, 2024, 10:07:06 AMAm I making any sense?
Yes. but i doubt it was that calculated. I suspect that similar to getting Roy on the new album, it's more that they play or tour with people and then just naturally end up working with them in some capacity.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 24, 2024, 10:07:06 AMAlmost seems like this is what they'd wanted ten years ago, keep Coady but ditch Jared. Now with this injury and your they have the excuse to say "hey this is working" without it ruffling too many feathers. Not thatBuzz would care, likely. But Dale and Coady might (if Buzz had told only Jared to fuck off after Bulls & Bees). Am I making any sense?
Why you think they want to ditch Jared? Did I missed something? In the same podcast I mentioned Buzz said there is no beef with the Big Biz guys.
I'm quite sure Jared lives in Seattle now and he's still playing with Unwound, and Coady is still in LA where Buzz, Dale and Steve are located as well.
Coady now in Melvins, HOF, Big Biz and Murder City Devils, crazy! I'm really excited though, my fav times i've seen Melvins was with the Big Biz lineup, and big part of that was the double drums.
Quote from: Bigval on April 24, 2024, 07:38:57 AMHopefully not as a replacement for Crover. Dale's missed the last two Melvins tours and he's going to tour with his solo band in August, not drumming obviously.
Still seems really weird the Melvins not touring to promote a new album, Melvins 1983 excluded. I wouldn't be surprised if another 1983 album happens soon as Dale won't need to drum for that either.
i think your point is not totally wrong, i'm not so sure that Dale will be back as drummer in a near future and that visa problem for the Japan tour sounded a bit weird to me.in that case Coady would be a perfect solution. obviously hope we are wrong because Melvins without Dale on drums is not the same
I'm pretty sure Buzz has used the phrase "two drummers" or to that effect in one of the recent interviews. From what I understand, Dale is good to drum again. It's just been the visa thing holding him back from touring abroad.
I suspect Jared may be too strong minded. He writes, he sings, he has political opinions, he moved away. And yes, Steven and Pinkus both write and can take lead. But it's just a personality thing. I think Jared is closest to Deutrom in terms of his own musical criteria and vision. I'm basing this on just what I see in the tunes, the interviews, and my own shitty thoughts.
Coady is back in the Melvins and they are going to be doing the double drummer thing again - for how long? Who knows? Coady is a busy guy with High on Fire and Big Business and the occasional Murder City Devils reunions.
Jared lives near Tumwater, WA again in the house he grew up in with his wife and kids. He is playing in Big Business and Unwound. My "guess" is that when Jared had to cancel on the 30th anniversary tour for "Paternity Leave" as Buzz put it, that he might have been given walking papers by Buzz, Jared very well might have just given notice (having kids takes a lot of time and energy). I doubt it is bad blood as much as it would be uncomfortable blood, and not fun blood. Not sure if once Pinkus joined on bass for that tour if there was ever another show with Jared and Coady?
I have never heard Buzz say a negative thing about Jared, and obviously Jared is still friends with Coady and Toshi. So, I am just hoping that all is ok between all of the guys. I mean, it has been 10 years now.
Now.....in my dreams, I would love to see "Melvins XL" with Dale and Coady on Drums, Steven and Jared on Bass, and Buzz and Toshi on Guitars. Now that would be a party!
I've always loved the extra punch that double drumming brings to their live shows. It'd be amazing to see Coady back with the band and maybe even get some fresh tracks with that setup.
I doubt there is any uncomfortable blood either. Well after the Hold It In album and tour, small 2015 early fall tour with the Big Belvins lineup for the last time (so far). No new album to promote. (This sticks out because I had to miss the gig :x )
Next tour was Imperial Savage and Steven's debut.
Quote from: Hakal on August 12, 2024, 10:50:00 AMI've always loved the extra punch that double drumming brings to their live shows. It'd be amazing to see Coady back with the band and maybe even get some fresh tracks with that setup.
Buzz said he wants to record with Coady again so i think it is a certainty! Probably wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for him replacing Dale on tour recently though.
A few weeks ago i put a comment on the Coady insta page..something in the line of, cannot wait to see you back in the Melvins.he replied as always ,being a super nice guy, something like :-$ and deleted my comment. wonder if he wanted to keep it secret
Quote from: black stallion on August 15, 2024, 10:56:23 AMA few weeks ago i put a comment on the Coady insta page..something in the line of, cannot wait to see you back in the Melvins.he replied as always ,being a super nice guy, something like and deleted my comment. wonder if he wanted to keep it secret
Last night i listened to an old The Vinyl Guide episode with Matt Pike and Coady from when Cometh The Storm came out. The host mentioned Coady going back on tour with Melvins next year and Coady was reluctant to say anything about it. Almost trying to say it was just a rumour until the host said Buzz had mentioned it on a recent interview. Then Coady talked about it. I guess people just like to keep stuff secret until it's officially announced. But yeah we all KNOW that he's back in the band and they are doing some recording together.
That's such cool news! I've always loved the double drumming vibe they had before. I'm definitely hoping it's not just for a tour but something they'll keep around. Can't wait to see what they come up with!
Quote from: Hakal on August 15, 2024, 03:02:06 PMThat's such cool news! I've always loved the double drumming vibe they had before. I'm definitely hoping it's not just for a tour but something they'll keep around. Can't wait to see what they come up with!
You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?
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We got Jared at The Unwound gig. That was super fun.
You can't truly have a MELVINS experience without Buzz and Dale. It's like Cheech and Chong. Sonny and Cher. Abbott and Costello.
When Dale had to sit out Coady was literally the only person who could do it. He filled the spot well but obviously will not do as a replacement.
Dale was on point at the Redd Kross show. He seemed healthy and doing well :)
Personally, I'd love another round of the foursome with the shiny dueling drums :D
Quote from: Bigval on April 24, 2024, 07:38:57 AMHopefully not as a replacement for Crover. Dale's missed the last two Melvins tours and he's going to tour with his solo band in August, not drumming obviously.
Still seems really weird the Melvins not touring to promote a new album, Melvins 1983 excluded. I wouldn't be surprised if another 1983 album happens soon as Dale won't need to drum for that either.
Dale is doing just fine. promise.
Melvins is not touring because both Buzz&Dale are busy with other stuff...Dale just did a massive US tour with Redd Kross (drumming) and is about to start a massive European tour still with RK. My guess is as the RK tour in Europe is over (November?) there will be some Melvins dates with two drummers
Quote from: Alex- on April 24, 2024, 10:37:05 AM, and Coady is still in LA where Buzz, Dale and Steve are located as well.
dale lives out in the desert near palm springs now, and didn't buzz move out of LA too?
i saw steven at a restaurant the other night. pretty sure he's LA or the grave.
Quote from: Nizamark on August 22, 2024, 04:49:16 PMdale lives out in the desert near palm springs now, and didn't buzz move out of LA too?
Yep he lives in Tucson, AZ now.
Toshi is still in L.A, though, right? So is Dale still involved in the studio and anything under Deaf Nephews moniker?
I was wondering today how long Coady will be in the band. We all know he originally stepped in whilst Dale was recovering so it wasn't really, initially a long term planned thing. But now it feels like he is back for the foreseeable. I'll be very interested to see if Coady is still in the band after this year and these tours. It seems Buzz wants to make the most of it and do some recording with him again. So feasibly we could see quite a bit of Mr Willis for a while.
good point,I think he's back in the band again. probably not a temporary thing
whoa
maybe just being good about the recovery. wishing a good recuperation
love cody but there's only one dale
I saw the band Thursday. It was awesome. One of the best Melvins shows I've seen in the Steven era.
Coady is the star of the show. He is such an acrobatic performer. He and Dale work together so well. Buzz seems entirely satisfied with the duo behind him. Dale leads still, it seems, but even Dale is influenced by Coady's playing.
Also notice that they did dual drums on the EP with Matt Cameron and on Tarantula Heart. I don't think Buzz ever got over it. I think he's been pining to be a dual drummer band again for the last decade.
oh, both of them. good.
The first time I saw Coady play with big Melvins, he came in, shook everyone's hand, very professional. Came across as genuinely nice.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 12, 2025, 06:22:26 PMAlso notice that they did dual drums on the EP with Matt Cameron and on Tarantula Heart. I don't think Buzz ever got over it. I think he's been pining to be a dual drummer band again for the last decade.
Yes, it does seem to be the case. The double guitars or basses line-ups never come back but double drumming returns now and then.
Part of me feels a bit sad to see Dale hit a lot less hard now than he did in the 90's. Seeing him paired with Coady again now you can really see the difference. Coady a monster and Dale playing far more reserved as someone older would. Even just the layout of Dale's kit - everything down low looks easier. Which i don't blame him for at all of course. It's just sad to see things go like that.
mmmh are you sure?i think he still hit a lot harder than Coady, if you happen to hear that Evil New War drum battle Dale's volume is doubled
Quote from: black stallion on April 14, 2025, 02:37:18 PMmmmh are you sure?i think he still hit a lot harder than Coady, if you happen to hear that Evil New War drum battle Dale's volume is doubled
I don't know, i just think for a while now Dale's not really been a big hitter. That's been the case way before any back problems he had. It's night and day when you go back and watch live clips from the 90's or early 00's. Drums is the instrument that suffers most in terms of musicians getting older. It's sad to see once great, dynamic players just sat there tapping away. Dale's certainly not at that point yet but i fear when that day comes. He's 57 now, i think over the next few years we'll see some decline.
It happens. So many dinosaur bands have younger drummers because drumming is really a young man's game. It takes such a physical toll and we know what Crover's just been through because of it. Herb just quit Primus because he's had enough, Wild Mick Brown quit Dokken a few years back sold his kit and made himself uncontactable. I'm actually surprised Lombardo at 60 is still kicking it live with Bungle and the Misfits.
I think Buzz has got one eye on the future with getting Coady back in the band, Dale might be able to keep going for a few more years but I can't see him still being there past 65. The good thing though as Dale is a part-owner of the band he doesn't have to worry about being fired and will likely keep getting a cut once he steps away. That goes on a lot these days with part-owners of bands who decide to retire from the stage or whatever.
Quote from: Bigval on April 15, 2025, 09:19:41 AMI think Buzz has got one eye on the future with getting Coady back in the band
Possibly. One would think Buzz and Dale would have discussed these sorts of things at some point. I like the idea of Dale still being involved. Both Buzz and Dale have done the solo record thing and now with Thunderball we are seeing Dale doesn't even need to be included for something to be considered Melvins.
I know many fans don't like to think along these lines - about the end of a band. I think about these things all the time though. Melvins could go on in some form for another 20 years or it could end tomorrow! Of course no one knows what the future holds. I mean look at Albini and the end of Shellac. You don't always see it coming. I do love the thought of Buzz and Dale still working together and continuing to put something out as Melvins into their 80's.
Melvins without Dale is a totally different beast..remember those recent shows with just Coady.it was ok, not the same thing, if you ask me not that great, especially some songs sounded a bit weird.Coady plays fast and busy, Dale even playing a simple pattern is on another level. i see it Dale changed his style a bit, set up too.Buzz changed his style/sound a lot through the years too, inevitable
Seems Coady is back in the band for the VERY long term!
Buzz: Yeah, the last time we did it with Coady was in 2015 so it's been almost ten years. I think he's gonna be back in the band for good, probably, I would say, unless he quits or something. I really like it. I think we barely scratched the surface on what we what we're capable of doing with it.
wonder how he can conciliate Melvins and HOF massive tour schedule.also wondering about Big Biz future. On a related note i would have loved to see Jared in the band again too
Quote from: black stallion on April 30, 2025, 04:25:36 AMwonder how he can conciliate Melvins and HOF massive tour schedule.also wondering about Big Biz future. On a related note i would have loved to see Jared in the band again too
Honestly i just can't see how it will work out long term with Coady. Between Melvins, HOF and (it looks like) Big Business the guy is gonna be knackered from all the physical demands!! He'll make a ton of money of course but virtually never be home! Melvins and HOF tour all the time as it is. Also i wonder how it will impact both bands. I can't imagine Buzz pausing touring plans just because Coady is off with High On Fire. So i suspect sometimes Coady will miss the occasional tour then hook up again later.
Just read that High on Fire announced an upcoming European tour on Oct/Nov 25 and Coady will be replaced by another drummer being him busy with other stuff (which i suppose is Melvins). If you think that means he gives priority to Melvins (?). that is weird
Quote from: black stallion on April 30, 2025, 11:03:37 AMJust read that High on Fire announced an upcoming European tour on Oct/Nov 25 and Coady will be replaced by another drummer being him busy with other stuff (which i suppose is Melvins). If you think that means he gives priority to Melvins (?). that is weird
Well i didn't expect it to happen THAT soon! It does stand to reason that scheduling conflicts will obviously arise around him. I like Coady with HOF but at some point probably someone needs to decide whether it's best to just go separate ways. They need to find a way to clone him! EVERY rock band can have their own Coady!
I recently saw that Unwound is going back out for a short jaunt so at least Jared is still paying the bills.
I see Coady as maybe being a soft replacement for Dale in future. Bring him back in now to get the fans used to him again and after a few years when the surgery + age catches up with Dale let Coady take over full time.
Dale as a co-owner of the band would likely still keep getting paid everytime they played live, that's usually how it works with other bands in similar situations. Mick Jones still gets paid every time Foreigner play live even though he's sitting at home.
I also think Coady likes the way Buzz operates. Schedules for the Melvins are planned well in advance. There's never a shit drive. Downtime is planned or used efficiently. You don't have crazy commitments that have you jetlagged and hung over.
If the money's the same I'd choose the Melvins caravan just on practical terms.
But also I think he just loves Dale to death and I don't think Coady has stopped missing the dual drummer setup either. It was probably ultimately a relief that Jared got this other gig so that Coady can continue on with the Melvins as his primary touring commitment.
Totally speculative. I don't know shit.
And Dale seems plenty healthy up there. He looks fine wearing the guitar in DCB, too.
I think playing in High on Fire pays bills equally if not more than playing in Melvins..I'm really surprised Coady is not giving priority to HOF considering he just recorded an album with them. probaly playing with Crover is too cool to miss out , how to disagree :P
Quote from: black stallion on May 01, 2025, 02:44:37 AMI think playing in High on Fire pays bills equally if not more than playing in Melvins..
I always remember Buzz saying the Melvins play cheaper that most bands but they make up for it by playing a lot more shows than most.
Quote from: Bigval on April 30, 2025, 08:14:09 PMI see Coady as maybe being a soft replacement for Dale in future. Bring him back in now to get the fans used to him again and after a few years when the surgery + age catches up with Dale let Coady take over full time.
I could see that definitely being in their thoughts but maybe not the deciding factor. Buzz is 61 now and the band could feasibly still go on in some form for another 20 years so probably as some point Dale wouldn't be so great behind the kit. I think Dale wouldn't ever be out of the band. Unless he chose to be that is.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 30, 2025, 11:23:39 PMIf the money's the same I'd choose the Melvins caravan just on practical terms.
As great and lovable as he is, i'm sure working with Matt Pike is probably a bit more tricky than working with the Melvins boys. Personality wise, Coady and Steven seem perfectly suited to working with Buzz and Dale.
Quote from: Bigval on May 01, 2025, 05:46:31 AMQuote from: black stallion on May 01, 2025, 02:44:37 AMI think playing in High on Fire pays bills equally if not more than playing in Melvins..
I always remember Buzz saying the Melvins play cheaper that most bands but they make up for it by playing a lot more shows than most.
yeah, i remember that too!
Coady is a beast. Seems like a real stand up guy, too.
I loved that line up so much. More! More! More!
The way those two mirrored each other on drums... super hot.
I was googling Coady last night and saw that he's supposedly 50 years old!!! Born 1st Nov 1974 apparently. That kinda surprised me. I always thought he was younger than that. If indeed that is correct of course.
I think it's correct.he looks a lot younger!
Seriously. He's one of those like Fred Savage who looks 13 even with some grey hair.
Perhaps Coady could be the new drummer in Foo Fighters? :lol:
Quote from: Bigval on May 16, 2025, 09:35:30 PMPerhaps Coady could be the new drummer in Foo Fighters? :lol:
oh please no, maybe just for the money :D
Quote from: black stallion on May 16, 2025, 09:12:08 AMI think it's correct.he looks a lot younger!
It's the case with a lot of us childless rockers!
hahaha
Also, read the whole thread... but it is important to note that Jared Warren is straight up *IN* Unwound now. And they are going wild *AND* hard with touring all over the place. That is bittersweet because Vern Rumsey was a friend of mine and an ex-bandmate, but he is the only guy that could do it and he is doing an amazing job. He wouldn't even have time to do Melvins.
He is back in the pac nw though, and Jared is a (GREAT) family man. Respect that comes first.
Everybody is on good terms as far as I know.
They've wanted to do more double drumming stuff for years.
Dale may not be breaking the drums in half anymore, but he's still one of the greatest living drummers in rock 'n roll and he is still a powerhouse. Coady is as well, but weirdly in slightly different ways. You truly love to see it.
And i'm glad i'm going to get to next month, because I missed *ALL* of the spring shows by a day.
One of Coady's other bands Nuclear Dudes has a new album out:
Nuclear Dudes is the inventive, anarchic yet sophisticated project of multi-instrumentalist and underground mainstay Jon Weisnewski (Sandrider, Akimbo). Originally conceived as a Covid lockdown hyper hybrid, clever blend of Gary Numan meets Carcass, the project has since grown longer legs to include collaborations and a wider array of influences.
"Nuclear Dudes started as "something to do" during the pandemic," Weisnewski offers. "Turns out it's real sticky. It's become a consistent project that is exploring metal/grind, synth, and collaborating with musicians I love and admire."
Skeletal Blasphemy is the perhaps the most focused effort yet under the Nuclear Dudes moniker, a rollercoaster team-up with Coady Willis (High On Fire, Melvins, Murder City Devils), one of heavy rock's most lauded percussionists.
https://theghostisclearrecords.bandcamp.com/album/skeletal-blasphemy
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