What do you all think of the second half of this album? Sounds like Buzz just ran out of material. (Writers block maybe?)
I see what your saying. I love the whole album. Though the second half isnt as good as the first.
I think Joan of Arc and Teet are two of the best songs on the album.
I love copache, all songs from this album is excellent!
:shock: :shock: :shock:
I think that the album is good for the most part, except the last track with only the drums, i think spread eagle beagle is the name.
I like the lkast song light psychopathic
From Melvins Land:
Melvins lyrics, as King Buzzo once put it, suggest meaning!
Some references that have been documented include:
HONEY BUCKET - it's about the toilets at the Reading Festival in England, which they played in 1992 (along with NIRVANA)
LIZZY - it's a tribute to BEWITCHED star Elizabeth Montgomery ("For some reason, whenever I watched that show, I always thought she was a lesbian. I wanted to call the song "Lezzie"." - King Buzzo)
HAG ME - "we wrote it in tribute to our favourite roadie, Gary MacKenzie. He's from Scotland, and you know that Hadrian's Wall? They built it to keep people like Gary out. He eats haggis raw, with the intestines still warm." - King Buzzo
SPREAD EAGLE BEAGLE - "I'd describe it as typewriter rock, because all the drums sound like a giant typewriter. I think it's going to startle a lot of people. But then, I think we startle a lot of people anyway." - Dale Crover
HOOCH - "It's like speaking in tongues." - King Buzzo
You rock Cooter!
ya thats good stuff! even if it IS all made up.
i hate the album, it's really bad. honey bucket is the only decent song.
Quote from: kl0pperi hate the album, it's really bad. honey bucket is the only decent song.
if Houdini is bad, i think that you hear BSB no?
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Without a doubt this is one of the most incredible albums I own, its simplistic, yet HUGE. Its heavy over the edge. Its a work of art that many could never understand. The Melvins definately sound like nothing else out there. There music is pure, full of soul, and doesnt apologize. Houdini is one record that you wont forget when it's over. Looking at it as an audio engineer, it is simply a triumph. Its not easy making some strings tied to wood sound so big. The guitars on the album sound 12 feet long, and the drums sound like they are at least each 6 feet in diameter. This album is pure art.
Quote from: AnonymousQuote from: kl0pperi hate the album, it's really bad. honey bucket is the only decent song.
if Houdini is bad, i think that you hear BSB no?
:shock: :shock: :shock:
what?
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Quote from: VUHwexWithout a doubt this is one of the most incredible albums I own, its simplistic, yet HUGE. Its heavy over the edge. Its a work of art that many could never understand. The Melvins definately sound like nothing else out there. There music is pure, full of soul, and doesnt apologize. Houdini is one record that you wont forget when it's over. Looking at it as an audio engineer, it is simply a triumph. Its not easy making some strings tied to wood sound so big. The guitars on the album sound 12 feet long, and the drums sound like they are at least each 6 feet in diameter. This album is pure art.
i just love posts like that... well, houdini is not under my favourites but
nonetheless it's still great and you somewhat encouraged me to listen to it
right now :)
Quote from: AnonymousQuote from: kl0pperi hate the album, it's really bad. honey bucket is the only decent song.
if Houdini is bad, i think that you hear BSB no?
:shock: :shock: :shock:
hahaha it says guest but you just kno wits beto brasil
what the hell is bsb??
its ya mama :p NO IM JUST KIDDING, its for Beto Satan Brasil :)
Quote from: kl0pperwhat the hell is bsb??
BSB : BACK STREET BOYS !
Quote from: klumpits ya mama :p NO IM JUST KIDDING, its for Beto Satan Brasil :)
hey man, never, i repet, never speak about my mother again ok?
never.....
thank you
HOUDINI ROCKS THE VIBES JUST FLOWS,ITS JUST CERTAIN TRACKS R IN THE WRONG PLACE LIST.......PLAY IT ON RANDOM...........MELVINS RULE :shock:
Quote from: IRON-MANTISHOUDINI ROCKS THE VIBES JUST FLOWS,ITS JUST CERTAIN TRACKS R IN THE WRONG PLACE LIST.......PLAY IT ON RANDOM...........MELVINS RULE :shock:
I've been playing their albums backwards (last track to first track) recently.
I now see that if the second half was more like the first half it would probably be another "Bullhead." Kudos to Melvins!
Quote from: Beto BrasilQuote from: kl0pperwhat the hell is bsb??
BSB : BACK STREET BOYS !
sure
It just seems like it was thrown together; not much thought put into it. Plus, "Going Blind' has to be my least favorite Melvins song - ever. I don't know what it is, I just can't get into that album. It's the only one I don't care for. What do you think?
"Goin' blind" is a Kiss cover
i think its better than stoner witch, alot better.
i really like alot of that album... but some songs arent that great.
This is actually one of my fave melvins records.
I belive the idea was for Kurt Cobain to produce the thing, but Dale and Buzz ended up doing most of it alone.
"Going blind" is not a melvins song, it's written by Gene simmons I belive.
Hooch and Night goat is two of their best songs if you ask me.
I give it 2 thumbs up.
I personally think it's one of their best albums. That album was kind of the end of their straight up heavy metal sound. After that, they started getting more experimental with their work. I kind of wish they would get back to writing that heavy as hell, straight forward rock shit (ex. Gluey Porch Treatments.)
here! here! well said.
Quote from: anacondahere! here! well said.
Thank you! Just speaking my mind.
That last post was me. For some reason it put me as a guest.
Night Goat and Sky Pup are fucking great.
amazing album... i second the notion of it being better than stoner witch... every song except going blind and those last 2 noise tracks fucking kill!!!
oh come on. ya gotta love it, initial post-on-thread guy! i'd call it the "quintessential" Melvins album. Sooo potent. Sooo heavy. I can [/i]taste the blackness every time I listen.
cant exactly say that GPT is a straight rock album...but you can say that Houdini was a big step in the right way with effects :) HAT is the best! :D LUUUV IT
my dear american friend send me about 10 albs (10 songs, crybaby, bootlicker, stag, stoner w., hat, houdini, honky, prick, the maggot, king b ep)
to say the truth, i expected a bit more, but i liked it anyway
but i knew, the melvs are fuckin great, so i kept to listen to it, and houdini was the album which made me love the melvins
im not sure if i expressed my self as well, im just tryin to say, houdini was my fisrt melv album i was really into
then i started to love the maggot, then 10 songs, honky, bootlicker, prick, stag ....
my 3 fave albs (at the moment): 10 songs, honky, stag
Quote from: kurvathen i started to love prick
I didn't get there yet
I think my fave houdini moment is in Honey Bucket when the song totally changes and it's just that palm-muted D chord. Fucking brilliant.
And Going Blind is the worst moment. They played that both times i saw them recently and it was the only dull moment of each show.
I think Houdini is one of their weaker albums.That doesn't make it bad by any stretch. I love the first six songs(Hooch, Night Goat, Honey Bucket, even Going Blind). Then it kind of falls apart. It seems to get more disjointed and thrown together as it progresses. And Set Me Straight is the WORST MELVINS SONG EVER!!!
I actually prefer Stoner Witch. So sue me.
Quote from: SwaggerSet Me Straight is the WORST MELVINS SONG EVER!!!
Have you heard the version on 26 Songs? Give it a listen and you will change your mind.
Set Me Straight goes back to the beginning of the Melvins. Kurt Cobain recycled it for Houdini. Cobain's influence in the studio is evident on the Houdini version of Set Me Straight, and I agree it is one of the weaker songs on Houdini.
its one of their worst
the first half is pretty good, but the second is absolutely awful
It's one of my least favourites too. However, when comparing to most other music, it still kicks all holy ass. Great album, just not THEIR greatest. Stoner Witch has more flow and conistency while still having a lot of variety in the music. I love the noise and space out moments on SW too. That being said, Houdini still has several crushing tunes, the likes of which are to be found on no other album. Honey Bucket, Night Goat, Joan of Arc, Copache to name a few. rockin' album.
Houdini was the first Melvins album I owned. It started my mad search for their other albums. I still like it. If I had to choose a "weak" Melvins album, it would have to be The Crybaby in that it is a guest album and not a true, all songs written by The Melvins release. However, I like The Crybaby but I like it least of all when I want to hear The MELVINS.
Quote from: GrindfagQuote from: kurvathen i started to love prick
I didn't get there yet
GOOD LUCK!
it's great for spacing out or background music
Quote from: Dr. Gonzoamazing album... i second the notion of it being better than stoner witch... every song except going blind and those last 2 noise tracks fucking kill!!!
theres noise tracks on houdini?
spread eagle beagle isnt noise, if you listen close its got quite a rhythm to it.
i really like set me straight on houdini.... it takes you back waayy back to when melvins were more punk...... goin' blind is a great cover too.. cant see why people dislike it
Quote from: melvinsatemypoopQuote from: Dr. Gonzoamazing album... i second the notion of it being better than stoner witch... every song except going blind and those last 2 noise tracks fucking kill!!!
theres noise tracks on houdini?
spread eagle beagle isnt noise, if you listen close its got quite a rhythm to it.
Almost all of COD has a rhythm too. THat ain't noise??
Quote from: BillQuote from: melvinsatemypoopQuote from: Dr. Gonzoamazing album... i second the notion of it being better than stoner witch... every song except going blind and those last 2 noise tracks fucking kill!!!
theres noise tracks on houdini?
spread eagle beagle isnt noise, if you listen close its got quite a rhythm to it.
Almost all of COD has a rhythm too. THat ain't noise??
fine example.... but thats got no guitar feedback and distortion... its just a bunch of people doing different precussionsm, i dont consider it noise... pearl bomb isnt noise either.
Houdini better than Stoner Witch? NEVER!
Quote from: eddieHoudini better than Stoner Witch? NEVER!
houdini > way better.
sorry eddie... but its the truth :lol:
Are you all just stupid retards?
I think all of the Melvins albums are great.
After reading some of these posts on this message board it seems that you turds are just a bunch of idiots who can't accept that when a band does something different that doesn't live up to "Honey Bucket" or "Night Goat" that the band is always criticized doing "stupid shit".
Fuck you all!!!
Go listen to Limp Bizket, Blink 182, recent Metallica, and get into their mind-set rather than the Melvins.
Quote from: islekilluAre you all just stupid retards?
I think all of the Melvins albums are great.
After reading some of these posts on this message board it seems that you turds are just a bunch of idiots who can't accept that when a band does something different that doesn't live up to "Honey Bucket" or "Night Goat" that the band is always criticized doing "stupid shit".
Fuck you all!!!
Go listen to Limp Bizket, Blink 182, recent Metallica, and get into their mind-set rather than the Melvins.
Talk about open-mindedness :roll:
Forcing your opinion on others is the lowest form of douchebaggery.
Boo-hoo Grindfaggot.... :cry: you broke my heart. :D
Yeah, well, what are you gonna do about it? Call me a faggot and try and change my opinion?
Dear Grindfag, :D
There's no need to call you any other names because I think you know what you are. :wink:
My point was not change or "force" my "opinion" on others. :D
This message board is also entirely about "opinions" whether you like them not. :lol:
Bye-bye and Happy New Year. :)
Quote from: islekilluAre you all just stupid retards?
I think all of the Melvins albums are great.
After reading some of these posts on this message board it seems that you turds are just a bunch of idiots who can't accept that when a band does something different that doesn't live up to "Honey Bucket" or "Night Goat" that the band is always criticized doing "stupid shit".
Fuck you all!!!
Go listen to Limp Bizket, Blink 182, recent Metallica, and get into their mind-set rather than the Melvins.
Dood, my dawg, The Melvins don't do "stupid shit" when they don't live up to "Night Goat" or "Honey Bucket" they do "stupid shit" when they don't live up to "Sky Pup" and "Skin Horse".
You cock suckah.
By the way, Are girls offended when you call them a "cock sucka"? I've never tried, cause Im too dainty...
magic pig detective - maybe the only song i really hate
kurv man i cant believe you said that!!!
after you were so right about the change in honey bucket
where buzz does continual palm muted shit on the d string!!
its so heavy that continuous riff pattern on honey bucket
Quote from: anacondakurv man i cant believe you said that!!!
after you were so right about the change in honey bucket
where buzz does continual palm muted shit on the d string!!
its so heavy that continuous riff pattern on honey bucket
:?: ? :?:
Quote from: anacondakurv man i cant believe you said that!!!
after you were so right about the change in honey bucket
where buzz does continual palm muted shit on the d string!!
its so heavy that continuous riff pattern on honey bucket
that was me, which is why kurva's confused.
that used to remind me of negative freak (the d riff) but now it stands alone. and for the record i think stag/stoner witch are the best albums.
Quote from: islekilluMy point was not change or "force" my "opinion" on others. :D
No shit? Cause that sure as Hell didn't sound like a lesson in tolerance:
Quote from: islekilluGo listen to Limp Bizket, Blink 182, recent Metallica, and get into their mind-set rather than the Melvins.
Quote from: islekilluThis message board is also entirely about "opinions" whether you like them not. :lol:
I'm sure it is, but can you tell this guy here is aware?
Quote from: islekilluAre you all just stupid retards?
After reading some of these posts on this message board it seems that you turds are just a bunch of idiots who can't accept that when a band does something different that doesn't live up to "Honey Bucket" or "Night Goat" that the band is always criticized doing "stupid shit".
Maybe it's just me, but I have the impression someone doesn't quite know how to deal with a different point of view at times.
Quote from: islekilluhappy new year
Hey, thanks. For a second, I thought we were having an altercation there. hahahah. Oh man. Cheers.
:D :lol:
Quote from: kurvamagic pig detective - maybe the only song i really hate
:?: :?:
Instead of rehashing this again I will try a different spin on it:
Ever hear FX/Supernaut off Black Sabbath Volume 4?
Same concept with Magic Pig Detective. The excruciating wait through the feedback for the fast part is what gives the song its strong appeal.
Difference is Sabbath spend less than a minute on FX and it is a separate song. Buzz doesn't want you to skip the feed back, he wants you to suffer through it only to be rewarded by an amazing finish.
Quote from: GrimReaperQuote from: kurvamagic pig detective - maybe the only song i really hate
:?: :?:
Instead of rehashing this again I will try a different spin on it:
Ever hear FX/Supernaut off Black Sabbath Volume 4?
Same concept with Magic Pig Detective. The excruciating wait through the feedback for the fast part is what gives the song its strong appeal.
Difference is Sabbath spend less than a minute on FX and it is a separate song. Buzz doesn't want you to skip the feed back, he wants you to suffer through it only to be rewarded by an amazing finish.
That's gotta be the heaviest album ever. (Vol. 4) Just that "Under the Sun" riff alone.
Also, when the melvins would do medleys like Echohead/Don't Piece Me and Revulsion/We Reach; i'd imagine they thought of Luke's Wall/War Pigs (from Paranoid) or the above mentioned Under the Sun/Everyday Comes and Goes.
This may be slightly off topic but do either of you
guys like Mob Rules era Sabbath with Dio??
come on guys houdini has HAG ME on it. fuckin HAG ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAGMEHAGMEHAGMEHAGMEHAGMEHAGME
HHHHHHAAAAAAGGGGGG MMMMMMMMEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: kurvamagic pig detective - maybe the only song i really hate
thats the greatest song on stoner witch, if you dont like the feedback, well... thATS just your problem... the feedback on that song is the creepiest thing.
then when it gets into the actual song buzzo's voice is terrifying , does anybody know if he uses an effect thing for that voice or does he do it by himself.
Quote from: islekilluAre you all just stupid retards?
I think all of the Melvins albums are great.
After reading some of these posts on this message board it seems that you turds are just a bunch of idiots who can't accept that when a band does something different that doesn't live up to "Honey Bucket" or "Night Goat" that the band is always criticized doing "stupid shit".
Fuck you all!!!
Go listen to Limp Bizket, Blink 182, recent Metallica, and get into their mind-set rather than the Melvins.
amen.
Quote from: anacondaThis may be slightly off topic but do either of you
guys like Mob Rules era Sabbath with Dio??
I don't have any Dio/Sabbath albums. I'd like to check out "Live Evil" Dio's first solo release did kick some mighty ass, but him taking Ozzy's place, i don't know about that...
Quote from: pottyfuckfeedback on that song is the creepiest thing.
then when it gets into the actual song buzzo's voice is terrifying
Exactly, listen to this articulate individual. Thanks PF.
Quote from: eddieI don't have any Dio/Sabbath albums. I'd like to check out "Live Evil" Dio's first solo release did kick some mighty ass, but him taking Ozzy's place, i don't know about that...
No one could have stepped into Ozzy's shoes. Dio with Sabbath proved to me that Sabbath is Tony Iommi's band. Whoever the fuck is singing, Sabbath is Iommi's gig.
I loved Sabbath so much Fred Durst could fronted the band and I wouldn't have cared. But Dio was too much of an individual to accept the fact Sabbath was Iommi's band. He tried to make Sabbath his band. Fuck that.
Ian Gillan from Deep Purple is another hero of mine. Born Again sucked. No one can replace Ozzy in Sabbath, Sabbath was Ozzy, not Iommi. Iommi finally figured it out and thus the reunion at World Peace or what ever the fuck.
I met Ronnie James Dio at the Rock N' Roll Clinic in Honolulu HI (a bar). I had just witnessed his show at the NBC arena and I was drunk as fuck. He stepped out of a limo and I yelled "there you go big guy!". He is a little fuck and his body guard took me as a hostile threat.
That being said I have some tastey Sabbath Vinyl that I will make a CRD for you. Bootlegs from the day. One with Ozzy at Lund, Sweden called "Doomsday Resitation" the other with Dio, Providence RI, thats in the USA, Death Riders.
Grim
Nice story Grim, i'd like to hear that "blow on a jug" and "Evil Woman" (ELO cover, their first single)
Also thanks to Chalupa for the www.black-sabbath.com site. I liked reading about the bands lineup changes. (I didn't know Rob Halford did a couple shows when Dio refused to open for Ozzy on his "No More Tours" tour.)
Also, i found on that site that Rhino is releasing (early March) a "Black Box" with all 8 original albums, with two of the above mentioned songs that I don't have. I just hope the original lineup can get along and release a new studio album soon. (loved Psycho Man, and Selling My Soul)
if theres one song by the melvins that makes me think of nirvana its set me straight. That part in Honey Bucket is old school hardcore as fuck. Reminds me of the groove parts of pig destroyer and shit.
Quote from: GrimReaperQuote from: eddieI don't have any Dio/Sabbath albums. I'd like to check out "Live Evil" Dio's first solo release did kick some mighty ass, but him taking Ozzy's place, i don't know about that...
No one could have stepped into Ozzy's shoes. Dio with Sabbath proved to me that Sabbath is Tony Iommi's band. Whoever the fuck is singing, Sabbath is Iommi's gig.
I loved Sabbath so much Fred Durst could fronted the band and I wouldn't have cared. But Dio was too much of an individual to accept the fact Sabbath was Iommi's band. He tried to make Sabbath his band. Fuck that.
Ian Gillan from Deep Purple is another hero of mine. Born Again sucked. No one can replace Ozzy in Sabbath, Sabbath was Ozzy, not Iommi. Iommi finally figured it out and thus the reunion at World Peace or what ever the fuck.
I met Ronnie James Dio at the Rock N' Roll Clinic in Honolulu HI (a bar). I had just witnessed his show at the NBC arena and I was drunk as fuck. He stepped out of a limo and I yelled "there you go big guy!". He is a little fuck and his body guard took me as a hostile threat.
That being said I have some tastey Sabbath Vinyl that I will make a CRD for you. Bootlegs from the day. One with Ozzy at Lund, Sweden called "Doomsday Resitation" the other with Dio, Providence RI, thats in the USA, Death Riders.
Grim
I saw Sabbath's last tour with Ozzy in 1978..."Never Say Die" It was fucking horrible!! The one saving grace of that show was the opening act which know one I knew had heard of....Van Halen touring their first album....Eddie played "Eruption" and the place went dead silent in awe....Anyway it was Ozzy's time to go. I thought Sabbath were done... but Heaven & Hell suprised me...I mean i was only like 17, but I thought it was a good album then.....but that was it...Mob Rules & Born again and all that other crap they put out was shite imo.....My fave album would probably be Sabotage....that was about their peak to me...and I was raised on that stuff...
-s
I really like houdini. A lot of poeple say it's half-assed but i think it has a lot of good songs on it. Except for a few and that last track with the weird drumming is a waste of time, but other than that it's solid.
Quote from: AnonymousEddie played "Eruption" and the place went dead silent in awe
Thank you guest, i was one year old and i could still shred.
Guest,
I don't know about Born Again but are you saying you didn't even like
Neon Nights, The Mob Rules, or Turn up the Night from the Mob Rules
album? There's a few good numbers on there c'mon, sure it's not the
classic lineup with Ozzy but it's not as bad as some of the shit from
that era like Manowar, or Twisted Sister for instance.
(http://www.black-sabbath.com/images/covers/mobrules.jpg)
Quote from: pottyfuckQuote from: kurvamagic pig detective - maybe the only song i really hate
thats the greatest song on stoner witch, if you dont like the feedback, well... thATS just your problem... the feedback on that song is the creepiest thing.
omg
i like the noiz but the song really sucks
Quote from: anacondaGuest,
I don't know about Born Again but are you saying you didn't even like
Neon Nights, The Mob Rules, or Turn up the Night from the Mob Rules
album? There's a few good numbers on there c'mon, sure it's not the
classic lineup with Ozzy but it's not as bad as some of the shit from
that era like Manowar, or Twisted Sister for instance.
(http://www.black-sabbath.com/images/covers/mobrules.jpg)
Yes I think Mob Rules really blows....and Neon Knights is from Heaven & Hell...which was the only Sabbath/Dio album I liked.....Heaven & Hell imo was a better album than the previous two with Ozzy...Never Say Die & Technical Ectasy.....Basically Sabbath blew it's wad with Vol 4 & Sabotage...it just went downhill fast after that....
-s
neon nights is also on mob rules. thanks for
your feedback. now whats your opinion of
Motorhead??
Quote from: anacondaneon nights is also on mob rules. thanks for
your feedback. now whats your opinion of
Motorhead??
It's Neon Knights..not Neon Nights....big difference. And it is not on Mob Rules.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002KMY/qid=1073507997/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_11/002-3244541-9979264?v=glance&s=music
Motorhead is ok....I'm more into old school punk....Dead Boys, Ramones, Stooges, VU, MC5, Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, The Real Kids, Television....shit like that.....77 Punk Rules!! OMFUG!!
-s
Quote from: scott carlinDead Boys, Ramones, Stooges, VU, MC5, Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, The Real Kids, Television
All right! Great selection!
Quote from: scott carlinit is not on Mob Rules.
Motorhead is ok....I'm more into old school punk....Dead Boys, Ramones, Stooges, VU, MC5, Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, The Real Kids, Television....shit like that.....77 Punk Rules!! OMFUG!!
-s
My error, i had a brain fart there, i was looking at Turn up the Night
on the jacket but I typed Neon Nights. Please don't behead me oh
grand wizard. ;)
btw, Motorheads first album came out in 77, and they were one of
the few so called 'metal' bands at the time that actually had mohawks
and metalheads in the same mosh pit without murders taking place. heh.
Another question if i may; where might one find Jello and the Melvins
on your FTP? Thanks in advance. Peace.
-anaconda
Quote from: anacondaQuote from: scott carlinit is not on Mob Rules.
Motorhead is ok....I'm more into old school punk....Dead Boys, Ramones, Stooges, VU, MC5, Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, The Real Kids, Television....shit like that.....77 Punk Rules!! OMFUG!!
-s
My error, i had a brain fart there, i was looking at Turn up the Night
on the jacket but I typed Neon Nights. Please don't behead me oh
grand wizard. ;)
btw, Motorheads first album came out in 77, and they were one of
the few so called 'metal' bands at the time that actually had mohawks
and metalheads in the same mosh pit without murders taking place. heh.
Another question if i may; where might one find Jello and the Melvins
on your FTP? Thanks in advance. Peace.
-anaconda
-anaconda[/quote]
I wasn't trying to be a douche or anything, but I just remember this stuff....I liked metal in the 70's...When I first heard Judas Priest's Hell Bent for Leather I thought it was the heaviest thing I'd ever heard, but a couple of years ago I picked up a vinyl copy on eBay for like a dollar...now mind you I was like 16 then and I'm 40 now, people change, but that album to me sounds so dated and quaint... By the time Quiet Riot & Twisted Sister became the "new" metal bands I got turned on to Black Flag & well it changed my life...that was the early 80's....To me metal sucks ass. I know some of you consider the Melvins a metal band, but I've interviewed Buzz 3 times now...We've talked on and off mic....I once drove him to my radio station and asked him what he considers the Melvins, and he said they are first and foremost a punk band, which I have always believed. Ozzy is an adle minded old fool now who has nothing to contribute but his own displayed stupidity for our entertainment. Look at Iggy Pop...guys like 58 or something and he still kicks anyones ass onstage...I'm rambling...anyway I don't know about Jello & The Melvins on the FTP....ask Brian..He'll probably know what you're talking about.
-s
no sweat, we're cool dude. black flag is my favorite band EVER.
I have all my Dad's old BF records and 'Slip it In' has to be my
personal fave folowed by' Damaged'. It's nice to have someone as knowledgable as yourself around here.
im a houdini fan myself not all songs are brilliant agreed but there is enough for me to make it a worthwhile album.
i also quite like melvins version of goin' blind...very repetetive but it works
I think Houdini is one of their best. Out of my favorite Melvins songs, i think Houdini would be represented the most. Night Goat, Hag Me, Honey Bucket, Joan of Arc, Teet, are some of the Melvins best songs, IMO.
Quote from: AnemicRoyaltyI think Houdini is one of their best. Out of my favorite Melvins songs, i think Houdini would be represented the most. Night Goat, Hag Me, Honey Bucket, Joan of Arc, Teet, are some of the Melvins best songs, IMO.
yeah, and dont ferget copache
QuoteI have all my Dad's old BF records
*gasp* *cough cough hack hack*
Fuck that makes me feel old.
Houdini is one of my favorite MELVINS albums. To each his own.
Houdini is the weakest of the normal melvins albums. Night goat is good, but on the single its better. Honey Bucket got me into the melvins, and that song kicks ass. Hag me is heavy, but it lacks something. I don't know what else is on there.
I can't express how awesome honey bucket is.
I STOLE YOUR GRAVITY! I DAMNED YOUR HOUSE!!!
man that's a good song.
Quote from: smokeyI STOLE YOUR GRAVITY! I DAMNED YOUR HOUSE!!!
man that's a good song.
dont hag me with your frisby
hehe
Quote from: idiotboyQuote from: smokeyI STOLE YOUR GRAVITY! I DAMNED YOUR HOUSE!!!
man that's a good song.
dont hag me with your frisby
hehe
I always thought it was "don't hag me with your four-string"
isn't it 'foreskin'? :twisted:
Quote from: anacondaisn't it 'foreskin'? :twisted:
I could see that...
don't hang me with your forcefield (?)
no, prick is the worst melvins album. houdini's great, in my opinion. i didn't used to like going blind until recently. whenever i hear that song i sorta go into this trance. i just feel really calm and the song keeps moving really well. it's like my brain just turns off or something. the only thing i don't like about it is that guitar solo. of course, it is not played by buzz. otherwise it would've been great.
don't hag me with your forsquee?
Actually, Houdini was the last of their (theMelvins) Atlantic Records deal.
They got a lot of money ($xxx,000) from Atlantic back in "91 and made 3 records for them.
These were "Big Budget" Productions for Buzz.
I like houdini. There's some great stuff on there.
They're all Good.
Colossus of Destiny (60 minutes of ?) man i love that. Really.
you have to be a good listener. anybody who digs the melvins must be a good listener, non?
Quote from: popeyewho digs the melvins must be a good listener, non?
it's good to be optimistic I guess
Quote from: guestno, prick is the worst melvins album. .
Don't be ridiculous. If anything the variety of Prick is more appealing to me than the repetition and shit production of Ozma. There's a lot on Prick to get lost in if you give it the time. Chief Ten Beers f'rinstance, and Roll Another One can keep me entertained for hours... The whole album was fun. I think I just went at it with the idea in my head that it would be a pile of crap, and through the miracle of under-expectation was pleaseantly surprised. I prefer Prick to Collossus, too...
As for the Atlantic Melvins in general: it's their peak.
Quote from: popeyeColossus of Destiny (60 minutes of ?) man i love that. Really.you have to be a good listener. anybody who digs the melvins must be a good listener, non?
COD is really bad.
my last favor album from Melvins,of course...
Quote from: BillIt just seems like it was thrown together; not much thought put into it. Plus, "Going Blind' has to be my least favorite Melvins song - ever. I don't know what it is, I just can't get into that album. It's the only one I don't care for. What do you think?
I don't agree at all !This album is not from the "Atlantic" period and its sonority is disgusting. It's true. But it 's a masterpiece !
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerQuote from: guestno, prick is the worst melvins album. .
Don't be ridiculous. If anything the variety of Prick is more appealing to me than the repetition and shit production of Ozma. There's a lot on Prick to get lost in if you give it the time. Chief Ten Beers f'rinstance, and Roll Another One can keep me entertained for hours... The whole album was fun.
Ozma is great!The most powerfull songs I
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Ozma is great!The most powerfull songs I
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerQuote from: meryl`sdrummer
Ozma is great!The most powerfull songs I
Hey Meryl
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerQuote from: meryl`sdrummer
Maybe you could explain your definition of power because the songs sound so weak and lifeless to me...
Every fucking song on ozma is a slap in the face!We played some of the songs ourselfs and if you do you turn into a fucking monster!You don`t play that songs-you beat them no riffs-just hits! After listening that record as loud as even possible you go straight on to do some drive-by shootings!PURE VIOLENCE honestly!
Quote from: Meryl
Maybe you should try it with Korn or Limp Biskit. That is a million dollar production. The production means nothing to me. Ozma is great. Emulate industrial Music? Oh, come on reverend. The GPT/Ozma CD is the only one i can hear every day. There is no usual song construction like on most songs of the newer records. It
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerQuote from: Meryl
A comparison for you: listen to At A Crawl on 10 Songs and then the version on Ozma...The feel on 10 Songs is infintely thicker than that of the Ozma sound.
Anyhow, as your drummer pointed out a lot of Ozma is just pounding away rather than actually riffing or anything, which is another turn-off when you consider how masterfully the Melvins could construct songs.
Thinking about it, I might just be more of a fan of Mark Deutrom and his style of writing than Buzz and Dale alone...
Experience playing the songs and post a reply afterwards! Maybe that would make you see things a little different! You realy should!
Goin' Blind was a song - they melvins made it an Epic.
it is best listened to in a car, dense fog, cigars, whiskey, beer, driving to the a certain remote river about midnight to fish for god knows what's in that river.
like floating on air-
true story
Quote from: meryl`sdrummer
Experience playing the songs and post a reply afterwards! Maybe that would make you see things a little different! You realy should!
You know what? That was fun...I played it for like 45 mins! I concede this point to you, good sir.
thats kind of ironic. i JUST got through with playing along with houdini and stag. in the process of playing the latter parts of bootlicker right now.
i concur, you definitely gain a new appreciation for the melvins if you pick up an instrument and play along with it!
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerQuote
Power? Excuse me while I scoff. No, seriously, my problem with Ozma is that the production is flat, tinny, bland and stark that it just kills the songs dead for me. There's no excuse either, Gluey, whilst obviously not setting industry standards is infinitely more pleasing on the ear. You can't seriously tell me that the production Ozma recieved is appropriate for the Melvins at all. Not to mention that they sound like they were trying to emulate industrial music on guitars in some songs...
Maybe you could explain your definition of power because the songs sound so weak and lifeless to me...
Thank you!! Very nicely said. I think the sound was very disappointing.
aw, i missed the argument.....still-think-it-sucks! ha. i can't play any instruments to try it though.
still, though i think most would agree it's definitely not one of their best
No no no! OZMA is a fine record!!!
its a formative record for the band by jeebus!!
its got Oven, at a crawl, even the goofy shit like
love thing and candy-o! sounds fine on the cassette copy
of it that i got from my step-dad. its a great album.
the most cohesive one with lorax in the lineup at least!
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerNot to mention that they sound like they were trying to emulate industrial music on guitars in some songs....
Ohh cmon now Rev! that was Buzz doing his Public Image Ltd
type of guitar shrapnel! He cites them is an influence around that
period chap! metal box and what have you haha
oh by the way mate, i was the bloke that posted this below,
and i just wanted to say i appreciated the acknowledgement.
in a phrase your response was 'droll' so very droll but witty!:
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heh, right now, im downloading ozma :twisted: (yes i am sick, blame me)
oh my fucking god!
creepy smell is one of the heaviest songs ive heard in weeks
but really, its recorded very badly
the vocals on at a glance / at a stake is so poor comparing to the 10 songs ver. (but the drums kick ass)
and i think Koollegged is the worst melvins song, especially the lyrics
or is it just the vocals?
(im not a melvins lyrics expert, ive never read them, only now - Ozma)
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
i just wanted to share my thoughts about this record, im listening for the first time at the moment :)
many melvins records aren't very good soundquality-wise but i just try to
blind that out and focus on the music when i listen to it. a good amount of
db can make the flatest production sound great. and while speaking about
ozma, after all these years it's still one of my all time favourites. i am
always pushing myself to get into "new" music so it got a little hard, i
mean i heard almost every melvins song thousands of times so it bores
me every now and then - but not ozma.
Hooch is one of their best songs ... Houdini is a masterpiece.
:evil:
Ozma and GPT are my favorite album. I own all there record, and these two, i cant get tired of it (even if it was the first melvins album i got and Oven made me discover the Melvins).
Ozma is a classic. It take a while to get into it, but its one of my favorite grunge album:P
-At a crawl on Ozma is a lot better than the one on 10 songs. It has a depressing feeling to it. I think its cause of Buzz voices and the amp buzzing in the background.
-Creepy smell is heavy
-Kool legged is slow and kinda boring but the lyric are cool and i like the orgasm part (the end)
-Raise a paw have cool riffs
Deaddressed and Cranky messiah, these two make the album good. Specially Cranky messiah, you could'nt like this song
And finally, Revulsion is my favorite ambient Melvins song, jsut play it loud in the big speaker and you will see its a masterpieces, specially the part when you hear the amp buzzing behind the riffs, its like a slow giant Tidal wave of sounds crashing everything (just before We reach).
Oh, and Ozma was on the top 10 grunge album of all time in Revolver magazine:P
yea, im with 'pringles' here. (which i thought was the lovely marilyn at first because of the logo...what a let down). i've listened to ozma/gpt more times than i could possibly begin to count. sometimes many times in one day. i can never get tired of them. and you people saying ozma has shitty production, i am listening to it now and you kinda ruined it for me you fuckholes... until i TURNED THE VOLUMED UP. that did the trick. simple step to curing all production problems. (sure, dale's snare is a little tinny, but come on, any album with song writing like OVEN on it is un-beatable. there are like 2 chords in that song. buzz is a fucking genius. oven oven oven. oven me.)
cranky messiah and raise a paw ... haha YES!!! it's just impossible to NOT
like these songs
And what about Deaddressed and Ever since my accident, these song rock!
Ozma is by the way the best album to listen while your stoned. Specially Revulsion/We reach.
Quote from: AnonymousOzma is by the way the best album to listen while your stoned. Specially Revulsion/We reach.
Baloney! Lysol owns all when flooded with THC...With Teeth will make you weep...
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerLysol owns all when flooded with THC...With Teeth will make you weep...
It's true.
i havnt heared much of the melvins because im a new fan but the 2 cds i have are great. I have bullhead and houdini. IMO Bullhead is better but houdini is still a sik album. Tunes like sky pup, set me straight, night goat, honey bucket, lizzy, copache, but my favorite on that album is definatly joan of arc!! I love it when buzz wails in that tune and also in night goat. Is this known as one of the better/more sucsessful melvins cds? Is it one of ur favorites?
discuss it bitches
Hmm no one has replied to this yet and I just registered as a member. Houdini's pretty cool but I'm not as into it as Stoner Witch, and in turn I'm much more into Houdini than Prick. Just to respond specifically to your comment though, I think "Hooch" might be my favorite Melvins song, and the song I listened to through Rhapsody that really got me into the Melvins. It's a cool album but a little bit creepy or sad when hearing Cobain's fairly obvious influence in the song Sky Pup. :cry:
Houdini is one of my least favorite album.
Hooch: good song, I like the guitar on the chorus chorus and the way buzz sing during the chorus. One of my favorite song on Houdini.
Night goat: A classy for msot of the people. But I think it repeat to much. I usually skip it.
Lizzy: Good song, but normal. Not a classic.
Going Blind: good cover, but I dont really like it.
Honey Bucket: A classic. When I have someone who dont know the melvins and he want to hear them, I play this song.
Hag Me: Long stoner song. Its good.
Set Me Straight: Sound like a song from The beatles. I like it but usually skip it. Its like the Pop song of the melvins. We get tired of it pretty fast.
Sky Pup: My favorite song on Houdini. I cant get tired of sky pop. It just groove like a psycho hendrix song.
Joan Of Arc: I dont really like it. My least favorite after Spread eagle beagle
Teet: I like this song. One of my favorite on Houdini. I like the mood of the song.
Copache: Great song, the solo give me shiver everytime
Pearl Bomb: I like it. I play it on bass often.
Spread Eagle Beagle: Shitty song, I dont like it.
My favorite album:
Stag (the Nevermind of the Melvins)
Gluey porch treatment (my favorite album, special place in my heart)
Ozma (I like it alot, dont know why)
Lysol (no comment, you know why its good)
Bullhead
Hostile ambient takeover
Electro retarded
Honky
The maggot
Stoner witch
Houdini
26 songs
Pig of the roman empire
Colossus of destiny (good to listen while stoned)
Crybaby
Eggnog (I dont like it. Sorry, I hate this album)
Prick
I never heard Bootlicker
did u never hear it?
hoho
after last song prig i always cry
buzz s voice is sooooo sweeeeeeeeeeet
chords C G
YEAH!
8) 8)
btw. i love prick
QuoteHoney Bucket: A classic. When I have someone who dont know the melvins and he want to hear them, I play this song.
before few year: me too :shock: :twisted:
Houdini is one of my least favourite albums too, but it's the melvins and still kicks a whole lot of ass.
set me straight it one of their only songs that i don't really enjoy too much, it's kind of dull.. that one drags the album down for me
Hey welcome to the Board. As dead as it is, or seems to be, it's a great place to connect with other melvin's fans, and rave on about the last show you saw, and what the fuk is wrong with kevin. All that stuff1 Right here1 Right now! 24/7 if anyone's paying attention.
I've been gone - Ran away from home again, this time for 3 weeks. yeah - Indian Summer in no. California. it was sweet wow- when i got home i felt so wierd - like i didn't really belong here (i mean in Seattle - where i live)
Houdini is a Great Album. Yeah - it really is. i believe it was the last of the 3 "Atlantic Records" Deal. Big Budget - Lavish Production.
You can see where Cobain found some of his own inspiration. Soundgarden (Early - Louder than Love, Badmotorfinger - also had a huge influence on Cobain. But...
Back to the melvins.
Buzzo is Not a God - I believe he is a Boddhisattva- what he's sharing with us is Art - music - Montesano Metal, whatever. i love it it's all Good.
the live performances are the Best of All. Make the Effort - You won't regret it.
My favorite Melvin's album? that kinda Rotates. Most recently it has been "Honky" which was also my latest acquisition.
Before that - Stoner Witch - ElectroRetard - Hostile Ambient Takeover (gets my vote for masterpiece) Colossus of Destiny - of course it all started out for me with Gluey Porch Treatments.
if Kevin needs a "Vacation" for health reasons (Please come back Kevin you are Definitely the Best and most Creative Bass player the melvins have ever had - Lorax used to be my favo. Kevin it's you now)
I hope Buzzo can talk melissa Auf dermaeur into covering the Bass slot. She could play Topless in her panties and continue the melvins tradition of ???.
melissa auf der mau = yummy
i bet she has lovely strawberry colored pubes too, grrrr baby
Quote from: popeyeMontesano Metal, whatever. .
:lol: oh man
The song Honey Bucket's overrated, but I really like Goin' Blind (even though I hate Kiss with the fire of 100 suns). As of lately, I've been listening to my newly purchased copy of 26 Songs, which is the head of the ass-kicking departmant.
HOUDINI is a album to NIRVANA fans.
Old Fans of Melvins know this.Just because KURT COCAINA played in Sky PUP and produced some songs,did HOUDINI a POP album of the MELVINS.
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Set Me Straight: Sound like a song from The beatles. I like it but usually skip it. Its like the Pop song of the melvins. We get tired of it pretty fast.
What's up w all these Beatle references? " Set Me Straight " goes all the way back to Mangled Demos. I always liked it but the version on Houdini is my least favorite.
Quote from: Beto BrasilHOUDINI is a album to NIRVANA fans.
Old Fans of Melvins know this.Just because KURT COCAINA played in Sky PUP and produced some songs,did HOUDINI a POP album of the MELVINS.
Kurt Cobain seem to bug you a lot, goes to show he did something right.
Houdini / Stag / Pigs / Never Breathe
Does are my favorite discs... I think pigs and never breathe will drop down soon.. it's just new songs makes me want to listen to them more than the old ones.
Quote from: PringlesHoney Bucket: A classic. When I have someone who dont know the melvins and he want to hear them, I play this song.
Same here, for some reason I think it makes a great introduction to the Melvins for newcomer's. Bar X The Rocking M is another good choice.
Quote from: GalvanoQuote from: Beto BrasilHOUDINI is a album to NIRVANA fans.
Old Fans of Melvins know this.Just because KURT COCAINA played in Sky PUP and produced some songs,did HOUDINI a POP album of the MELVINS.
Kurt Cobain seem to bug you a lot, goes to show he did something right.
galvano my friend,im a old big fan of Nirvana, yes, you are correct.
but , before, i dont know the real histories of kurt cobain ,but after i read HEAVIER THAN HEAVEN , i know the REAL Kurt Cobain.i dont like more Kurt Cobain,for me Nirvana are a good band man, but the man called Cobain is the loser for me.... is my opinion only man, and i respect your opinion too. i think that nirvana fans like Houdini because Kurt Cobain produced and played some songs.only this.now, get 10 songs and heard this good album with a new nirvana fan, hahaha, no way, of course he says to you, Hey i dont like this, i like houdini.
yes Houdini is good, but i prefer others melvins albuns.
Quote from: DudbeanHuh? Houdini is a pop album? What songs? Lizzy is really, really formulaic and pretty boring, but I wouldn't even call that song pop.
And what do you mean Houdini is an album to Nirvana fans? Do you think Buzz had that in mind when he wrote the songs? I don't. You say some really weird stuff sometimes, Beto, but I like your accent, so it's fun to read.
how many years you have bro?
i hear Melvins since 1989/1990.For old fans,Houdini is , yes , a POP version of Melvins.the same to Piece of Cake of Mudhoney.its POP too. :D
Quote from: DudbeanHey, are you a Sepultura fan? I bought Chaos A.D. a few weeks ago and I think it's boring. Alex Newport from Fudge Tunnel helped with the guitar sound on the album - I think that's what bugs me about it. The guitars sound really dull, just like Fudge Tunnel.
yes man!! of course !! i like Sepultura too!great band from Minas Gerais Brasil.i know that Alex have a solo project with Max ,Ex-Sepultura.i dont remember the name.Fudge Tunnel is a good , fucking band!! pretty good!yeah!
i like the song by song tactic
Hooch: immediately a hit, very much meant to be poppy. still an amzing song. the chorus=great.
Night Goat: the fuzz is amazing in this song. and whatever that buzzing is in the background. nice touch. i think dale does especially good in this good in this song.
Lizzy: definitely one of my favorites. cannot beat that chorus. real boring at some points though.
Goin' Blind: ah alice cooper. amazing song buzzo shows his pipes can fuckin howl. the hair metally part gets to me after a while though.
Honey Bucket: unforgettable verse riff. thats all i have to say.
Hag Me: Buzzos singing is a hi lite but the song never hit me as anything special. tune is very good.
Set Me Straight: very poppy. very forced song. its ok. singing annoys me, effect is weird.
Sky Pup: Cobain on gittar is a cool touch, the song on a whole isnt amazing.
Joan of Arc: amaizng shrieks. amazing song. and of course the ending. so cooool.
Teet: best part of song;feedback at end.
Copache: AMAZING. best song on album. lead part rocks my fucking skull. one of my favorite melvins songs, up there with easy as it was and junebug.
Spread Eagle Beagle: boring. Dumb. Don't like it at all. pearl bomb too but good bass line.
My favorite album list?:
Stoner Witch
10 songs
Ozma
Houdini
Gluey Porch Treatments
Stag
Eggnog
Electroretard
Bullhead
The Maggot
Honky
The Crybaby
The Bootlicker
and last and least, Prick.
never heard LYSOL.
Goin' Blind is a kiss song.
You should buy Lysol it's great.
Have you heard COD yet?
Ummm didn't Courtney love have to do with a lot of the writing in Heavier than heaven... and we know how much she tells the truth. as for the backing of this http://www.justiceforkurt.com/investigation/heavier_than_heaven.shtml
When i bought Houdini I didn't even know he 'producded' untill i bought and opened the cd and read the linnier notes and it only says he produced a few songs on there.... And I find Sky pup to be an annoying song. Kindof a primus feel to it but whatever.
All I have to say is I was happy as hell to see a melvins cd in a music store (which is a rare as hell around here) and I'd buy any album unless I already have it.( even the roman pigs but that ones growin on me)
Quote from: anacondaGoin' Blind is a kiss song.
You should buy Lysol it's great.
Have you heard COD yet?
yeah bro!! i doubt! COD?new fans hearding COD? never bro!! :D
Quote from: Beto BrasilHOUDINI is a album to NIRVANA fans.
Old Fans of Melvins know this.Just because KURT COCAINA played in Sky PUP and produced some songs,did HOUDINI a POP album of the MELVINS.
I don't think that "houdini" is a pop album ... It's one of my favourites. The sound is rough but the songs are pretty cool. If there was a melvins album which deserves the "pop" qualifier, it would be stoner witch, or stag ... (good albums anyway)
Quote from: Hog logI don't think that "houdini" is a pop album ...
for you and more 95% of nirvana fans,dont think that Houdini is POP.
but for OLDs fans of MELVINS, yes, is POP. :D
houdini sounds like the melvins. not like a pop album. maybe 4 or 5 out of the 13 songs on that album would have potential to ever be aired on mtv. that does not make a pop record if you ask me
WHA!? Hooch sounds NOTHING like a pop song. No one even knows what the hell the lyrics are. Anyways, I understand what Beto is saying, that Houdini isnt as hard as the previous albums.
Quote from: Beto Brasilthe same to Piece of Cake of Mudhoney.its POP too.
I KNOW! Don't even get me started in on Suck You Dry. I mean, its a good song and all, but it sounds a hell of a lot like a pop song.
i agree. beto never makes any sense. he's just saying stuff so people think he's all 'underground'
YUO IDIOT MAN!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
i love Houdini because it was one of my first melvins cds. It will always be one of my fav album of all times.
Quote from: ziumi agree. beto never makes any sense. he's just saying stuff so people think he's all 'underground'
YUO IDIOT MAN!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
hahahah thank you ,zium! but if im a idiot , you are.....? hahhahha :D
for me Houdini is POP, is a album to nirvana fans. :wink:
Quote from: DeleriumI KNOW! Don't even get me started in on Suck You Dry. I mean, its a good song and all, but it sounds a hell of a lot like a pop song.
yeah man, contain good songs, of course,but is POP,is WARNER!!! :wink:
hello hello.
i just got my copy of Houdini on vinyl which i found on the internet.
apparently this vinyl wasn't released commercially and was not available to the general public... does anyone know the true history of houdini on vinyl? is this right and it is super-rare, or was the seller dicking me over? either way it's pretty cool.
see for yourself:
...uhhh there were supposed to be pictures here but i can't get them on to a website to host them. mine is fucked currently.
if anyone wanted to see them they can email me.
bricolleran@gmail.com is me.
i sent em. notice the witchy poo vinyl in the corner? i left that there with you in mind.
ta da
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:lol: that was a kind of scary email, please don't talk to me again.
Nice MC5 cover as an extra track!
hahaha sorry brian. i was feeling needy.
thanks for the hosting!
Quote from: Dog Tired:lol: that was a kind of scary email, please don't talk to me again.
oh shit man, i just read the email. i mean custom pictures of the vinyl, as in if there are any other angles you'd be curious about..oh man im sorry!
:lol: it's alright.
Sweet, an extra track!
And how is that track by the way?
Man, I have no vinyl at all and I want some really bad. My dad has a whole collection and the only vinyl I have is some 7-inch by one of my mom's friends that I never met.
Quote from: LividitySweet, an extra track!
And how is that track by the way?
It was also on the Hooch single. Great cover.
Quote from: Vcavalloi just got my copy of Houdini on vinyl which i found on the internet.
apparently this vinyl wasn't released commercially and was not available to the general public... does anyone know the true history of houdini on vinyl? is this right and it is super-rare, or was the seller dicking me over? either way it's pretty cool.
Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4750205843&category=306&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1)
Quote from: Dog Tiredta da
i WANNA one !!!! :cry:
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Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4750205843&category=306&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1)
awww.....lllaaammmmeeee. i thought it was one(or at least 50) of a kind. i guess nothing in this crazy world is these days. shucks
I'm sorry to say it, but it's not particularly rare. When it came out my recordshop had loads of it.
Funny thing is that it's not mentioned in the official Amphetamine Reptile discography and the # doesn't fit in with any other AmRep releases.
it's rare enough these days.
Quote from: MesterenI'm sorry to say it, but it's not particularly rare. When it came out my recordshop had loads of it.
Funny thing is that it's not mentioned in the official Amphetamine Reptile discography and the # doesn't fit in with any other AmRep releases.
well the guy i bought it from said that it was some special promo edition that they found in their bosses desk after the rest of the store had a mutiny against him and he left. i think the promotional nature of it explains the punched out little notch in the right hand side. does that make it virtually valueless? or are promos considered rarer? i have a promo stag CD as well
That little notch means it was destined for the delete bin
It's been said that Ozma is really about Dale's drumming and that Gluey Porch Treatments shows Buzz''s nasty, raw guitar playing. Houdini then must be about the bass playing as it features some really great and catchy bass lines throughout with the exception of Spread Eagle Beagle, of course. Although when hearing the Melvins uninitiated for the first time Dale's drumming is the first thing that really stands out. Houdini in particular was the first Melvins album I heard and I was floored by the powerful beginning of Hooch, but after becoming accustomed to the professionalism and quality of the Melvins output, you do notice a great many other things to appreciate about their musicianship. Just saying that Houdini is a great album is an understatement.
Jiminy crickets, this is a great album.
Quote from: Vcavallo on July 26, 2005, 04:05:20 PM
well the guy i bought it from said that it was some special promo edition that they found in their bosses desk after the rest of the store had a mutiny against him and he left. i think the promotional nature of it explains the punched out little notch in the right hand side. does that make it virtually valueless? or are promos considered rarer? i have a promo stag CD and THE interview, as well
:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRTvpI-ma2Y
tourette syndrome
Awwwwww! For someone who "is not that familiar with the album", I thought his review was great!
What modesty.
that kids sucks.
He calls Dave Grohl superior to Dale.
FREAKING Rock Moranis! Someone take that stupid link down! I hate seeing his face.
20 years old today.
Good Lord.
Quote from: jules on September 21, 2013, 01:21:32 PM
Good Lord.
Patrick Stewart reacts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AArX50Kulns#)
:lol:
Quote from: (PAUL) on September 21, 2013, 12:51:46 PM
20 years old today.
That's crazy, I remember ordering the vinyl and my friend got the tape and we were on the phone freaking out over the fact we each had a different last track on the album. I also remember opening it up for the first time and being blown away by the artwork. Then as soon as I put it on and heard "hooch" it was all over. By the time "Goin' Blind" came on I was almost in tears I was so happy. I had only known the shitty live bootleg previously and didn't even know it was a Kiss song until Houdini :oops:
Quote from: (PAUL) on September 21, 2013, 12:51:46 PM
20 years old today.
Just as good now as it was when it was released.
Thing about Melvins albums, they do age well.
Houdini review from my old Guitar Player magazine December 1993.
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I like that last line. 8)
My guitarist gave me a (manufactured) cassette of Houdini. Sounds great. Just annoying, to wait so long for the music to start at the beginning of each side. Also, I would never program the track order the way the Melvins have it. It was an interesting experiment to hear it that way, and not do anything about it.
Yep. Though ALL tapes are Manufactured..I believe you meant to say COMMERCIAL cassette.
While cassettes are also mastered different than LP or CD, so the higher Harmonic spectrum that digital doesnt Capture is well encoded into the cassette, you might notice though its more compressed sounding too.
Dead air at the beggining and end of a tape is important. The first 20 seconds of a tape are no good.
I think that was an Atlantic Tape so DO check and see if there is the DD Logo on the side of the tape For DOLBY Noise Reduction. (dont remember if It does have Dolby NR or not) ITs the little Square Symbol. That means its encoded with Dolby B Noise Reduction.
Which was desighned to work both ON and Off. Should give you 10Db of boost if your Deck is calibrated right tight.
play the Tape with NR on, and boost up the treble to +6Db (midway around noon) Cut your Bass to 0Db (Dead centre) and you can turn it up real loud, and the Punch of the midrange will do its Job.
Love this guy!!
it's a transitional album. i love it but it would've made a great mini EP.
Hooch
Honey Bucket
Hag Me
Sky Pup
Joan of Arc
all kill!!!!!
Was Houdini released on cassette in Japan? I have a niggling feeling that it might have been. Photos and rumours, please.
Pitchfork adds a review: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/melvins-houdini/
That's actually a really good read there, digging into the history prior and acknowledging the fact Lori isn't on it. The observations of Buzz's lyrics, the songwriting and a bit on Spread Eagle Beagle is quite the read too.
Funny how it scored a 7.7, one decimal behind Chicken Switch. :lol:
they're excited! :lol:
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I think that while Houdini has some great songs on it, they have better albums that make for a more satisfying front to back listen. I think Stoner Witch is slightly superior during this era. I've always liked the way Houdini was recorded. The drums sound full and the guitars are dense. Interesting how Pitchfork labels Houdini as a "transitional" record. I don't really see it that way. I think you could call Stag or Honky more transitional, since those were more rooted in sonic experimentation. I see Houdini as a logical extension to Bullhead.
Good point, it's totally in Bullhead's lineage.
The thing I feel dampens Houdini is that it's not as well performed as other albums of its time.
Stoner Witch especially kicked things into a tighter gear in terms of performance and production.
Billy and GGGarth did great work to make Houdini sound enormous though.
I think the big set list songs in Houdini generally sound good. But the Kurt parts are kinda wack. Night Goat may have been superior on the single. Lizzy, Going Blind, and Set Me Straight stick out as weaker sonically. I get it being transitional.
I'm splitting hairs anyway, the album is a solid 9 or better.
Agreed, it's all still high-level critique. What's interesting about that set of songs is how the subsequent heavy touring shaped the tunes into how they're supposed to be played, which is why I think they felt Gluttony and Lust to be necessary.
Hag Me is a good example - that drum pattern took on a completely different shape over the years with Dale finding a much more fitting pocket for it later on. Having heard the matured versions way more often by now, the Houdini recording feels unwieldy.
happy 31st, old boy :lol:
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In this video, they talk a lot about Kurt Cobain being the producer of Houdini. He say he mostly spend his time stoned and sleeping on the couch behind the consol. Kurt only contribution was Sky Pup and Spread Eagle Beagle and lending his name to the album, which helped make it one of the best-selling Melvins album.
Buzz said that the reason Kurt Cobain play on Sky Pup, is that it was a really old song that they used to play in their practices sessions back in the Aberdeen days (the other one is Set Me Straight, a staple in their setlift in 1984-1985 and now remade for Houdini). Its possible Kurt played on Sky Pup as some sort of throwback moment.
In the same video about Spread Eagle Beagle, Buzz said everyone in the studios lined up side by side with percussion and they just improvised together. It was just some fooling around and they decided to include it on the album. He mention that this was the most fun he had with Cobain during the Houdini session and everyone had a good fun.
In the book An Oral History Of Grunge, Buzz mention that Kurt slept on the couch most of the time he was in the studios for Houdini