Well, I really like to listen to the monsterwork cd, but I'm just wondering why they didn't take the whole concert on the disc. It's just about 40 minutes of the show, too short, and I would say they have put more Fant
well, after listening to the entire show I was like why the hell did the put 'the omen' on it, I really missed mike patton say "fred durst has left the building" during on of the songs
Yeah, I believe the setlist was about 32 Songs, on the cd just 18!!!
But what I reelly hate on Mr. Patton is: On every Melvins song he has to cry or make noise, so he really "destroy" them. But he also destroy own songs (Tomahawk), like playing many songs live just with effects and stuff... Other than on the album...
i'm pretty sure buzz said he was in charge of putting that album together
Quote from: Anonymousi'm pretty sure buzz said he was in charge of putting that album together
Yea, I heard that also.
i'm more pissed about how they didn't mix it. you can barely hear the bass. every single live album the melvins have put out (except your choice) sounds like shit.
they have the full concert on bunglefever, i think.
good show with some new versions of the melvins songs, Hooch is my favor,well, have somebody recorded this in video?let me know.
where on bunglefever is fantomas/melvins??
P.S. Mr Bungle are class...
Quote from: mantraQuote from: Anonymousi'm pretty sure buzz said he was in charge of putting that album together
Yea, I heard that also.
That's possibel, because the artwork was made by Mackie O. and normaly the artwork for fant
What is currently up with the Melvins?:
"We're starting to record our new album on December first, which means we'll start touring again in the spring when it comes. We have a new Fantomas/Melvins live album coming out, I'm not sure of the exact date, February sounds reasonable to me. What it is, is a Fantomas/Melvins live thing that we did last New Year's Eve. I put together a 45-minute record out of the whole thing, without any of Mike's meddling, which is why this thing was able to come through, because Mike allowed me to do it on my own, as opposed to him doing it. It's a live to two-track recording, so there's not a lot of space for screwing around with it, I think it came out great. "We'll have that come out, Fantomas will probably record a new album, Mike has a bunch of material done, not in the near future but in the relatively new future. And the Melvins will have a new album and at some point we will re-release the Electroretard album, because Man's Ruin took a shit, probably with some extra tracks. Then we are going to re-release an old record of ours, the 10 Songs one off of C/Z. We're going to reissue that on Ipecac with some extra tracks and repackaged. Hey, did you go to the Toronto Fantomas show?
Also its Melvins+Fantomas, not the other way around.
I broke out this c/d yesterday and Mike Patton's screaming started to annoy the fuck out of me. I was literally embarassed for the Melvins.
I'm going to download some Fantomas off the net to get a good reference, but i'm curious about others opinions of Fantomas and the Bigband c/d.
I defintley agree with you about Pattons screaming it really bollocks that cd up. I also hate the way the melvins songs take the back seat ti the fantomas songs and they are also cut short.
the bigband idea seems to work okay on the fantomas tracks, sounds good. mike's singing doesn't sound that great on melvins ones, i would have prefered him use the racks of gear to make some noise to colour things a bit.. the recording itself sounds good though..
I think it is great and listen to it a fair bit
It would have been better if it was a longer CD, and had more Melvins tracks , which they cut off many from the disc. I think overall it's a good CD, but Patton's yelling doesn't "fit" some of the Melvins songs. Like Mombius Hibachi, the song is better hearing the riffs as is. But it's pretty cool how some sound fx were added to Night Goat. And the sound quality sounds good considering the circumstances. So overall, it's a good CD.
I don't listen to it much since it's mostly Fantomas songs. I stick with either 10 songs or Your Choice Live Series.
I think its an allright album. Ive listened to it about 6 times since I bought it when it came out.
Patton shouldve just shut up on the Melvins songs. He's a knob and he can't sing anymore - thats why he hides behind a bunch of gear and pretends to play it
I like the CD. Patton's screaming kinda was annoying me too, but after listening to it a few times I kinda felt like screaming with him. Mainly on the fantomas songs. I think the screaming on The Bit wasn't working and he fucked up the song performance.
I love Fantomas!!! Their first CD is especially brilliant. Though Director's Cut is an easier intro to the band.
The Big Band was awesome...LIVE. I was lucky enough to be there and I had a great time. Unfortunately, the CD covers only half the show. They opened with a super slow bass and drums-only version of Sacrifice that kicked my ass. Patton and Buzz shared vocals(Buzz on the lead) and it worked rather well. Why it isn't on the disc I don't know.
The CD was a bit of a dissapointment. The recording is "ok" and the choice of material included is questionable. The Bit and The Omen theme are particularly weak. They created a huge wall of sound that night and that is very difficult to capture off a soundboard recording.
I am a fan of Mike Patton and Fantomas but I would have to agree that some of his screaming on the Melvins tracks seems gratuitous and sort of gets in the way. Although, I do like the Fantomas-y yalping on Mombius Hibachi. It seems to fit the song well. I also liked the Patton vocals on Black Stooges.Both songs are great without them but Patton's work here seems to serve the songs and the concept of the Big Band. On the other hand, his screaming on The Bit seems like he felt he to had keep busy and "do something" so.... "Bwaaaaaarrrghh!!!!"
The show itself was a fucking blast and I hope they perform again in my neck of the woods. Even better I hope they one day write an album of new material for the Big Band incarnation. That would put a smile on me face as wide as all outside.
i think that cd is absolutely dreadful. it's the only melvins-related cd i can't even sit through. it's just not interesting, and it's completely monotonous. i sold mine, which is something i never thought i would do to a melvins cd. it made me start to abhor mike patton.
The only thing Patton should be doing with the Melvins is
giving them money to put out more Melvins recordings.
End of story.
The CD does sound like crap, but I thought the big band was pretty cool live.
I like it.
I'd give it 1 if there was such an option
The complete set they played was great, but the cd Ipecrap put out is terrible
No sir, I don't like it. Much at any rate...
Wow, I guess I'm alone on this.
Hearing Patton scream his nonsense and gibberish
over top of the Melvins songs gets annoying fast.
He ruins Night Goat and Mombius Hibachi with his
"vocal" diahrrea as well as most of the others.
The Fantomas songs are heavy and ok but his 'schtick'
gets tiring fast. It's a 6 out of 10 I guess. No higher though.
i gave it a 9 i thought it was good
I think it's good. It might be annoying for people who don't like Mike Patton and Fant
Don't get me wrong, I like the Melvins and the Fantomas,
just not mashed together. I think Mike shouldve kept
quiet on the Melvins songs thats all. He doesnt add
anything by screaming over top of them. :roll:
it was interesting to hear patton singing on melvins tracks. I'm a big melvins and patton fan and to hear them together was cool
it is really good!
but Amenaza al Mondo is Better!
good album! :D
I don't think they should have done melvins' songs
well, it's good but the complete bootleg of the show beats the ipecac release by far
hey melvin where are you from? eat my balls spock. :shock:
Quote from: noctrunwell, it's good but the complete bootleg of the show beats the ipecac release by far
Yup
I'm totally into Patton, btw. I just thought the quality of the recording sucked and the set choice was awful.
Quote from: GreenmushroomIt might be annoying for people who don't like Mike Patton and Fant
The Cd sounds like shit and Patton is just fucking dead-weight on the Melvins tracks. A non-essential release if there EVER was one!!!
Quote from: LeighThe Cd sounds like shit and Patton is just fucking dead-weight on the Melvins tracks. A non-essential release if there EVER was one!!!
youre sick 8)
If Mike Patton had shut the hell up on the Melvins tracks, this would have been a lot better of an album. He just made retarded noises that were uncalled for and killed the album. I think it's cool that both the bands played at the same time together, though. Very tight.
Buzz put that CD together - the tracks chosen and the order in which they were sequenced. Why they couldn't put out the bulk of the set on the CD defies explanation..
As for the Patton contributions..it's feasable that Fantomas fans aren't too keen on the bastardised versions of the Amenaza tracks. Not likely but feasable. Okay perhaps it's not really all that feasable. Okay I'll go now.
no man you're making sense! melvins fans were
kind of upset, and fantomas fans were sort of disgruntled
but in the end it was actually two bands together towards
one goal. so in that sense it's fucking kinda cool!
even if the track selection is flawed and the bootleg of the
complete show destroys it. i prefer the boot myself.
Would anybody out there be willing to trade for a copy of the whole show?
And what exactly is "Amenaza al Mondo"?
Quote from: AemonAnd what exactly is "Amenaza al Mondo"?
some people call the first fant
Quote from: AemonWould anybody out there be willing to trade for a copy of the whole show?
you can get most of it (if not all of it) if you do a
little digging around on here:
http://ftp.bunglefever.com
A while ago, the whole set used to be up for download. The main page on this website even had the link to it...I don't know if that's still around, see if you can find it
cmon!
its interesting to hear melvins songs with patton makin shit
dont be stubborns (we called ppl like you bravčov
I don't have a problem with him mutilating the songs, I just thought the set that got on cd wasn't particularly good...I heard the artwork for that is pretty simple, too
I kind of like it (I'll give it a 7) but I was disappointed with it all the same. I was actually at the show and it was a blast. But the recording sucked and the song selection on the CD was lackluster.
I am big fan of Patton/Fantomas and to hear him sing Melvins' songs was fuckin' cool. The set opener-the super slowed down bass and drum version of Sacrifice with Buzz on main vocal and Patton on back up was stellar and it wasn't included?! What the fuck!!!
Quote from: Anonymous
I was actually at the show and it was a blast
im so fuckin jealous of you :)
where and when was it?
could you write something about the show?
do you have any pics of that?
(sigh)
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its interesting to hear melvins songs with patton makin shit
dont be stubborns (we called ppl like you bravčov
Man, I really WANT to listen to this album, but then I put it on and the sound is SO bad it's like whatever!....so then I'm like ugh!...eew! and I just go to the mall instead.
I never listen to it anymore, once or twice when I got it. It does sound pretty bad. Some tracks are ok.
To be a release of the the first Melvins concert of 2000 you have to settle for what you record.
Think of it as a bootleg.
I wish the Melvins would release as many concerts as they can afford to.
Now there's an idea. I was at a show at the Crock a couple months ago and "they" were selling discs of the live show about 15 minutes after the show was over. Damn! who was that? I'm gonna remember just give me a minute - i just did a monster bong load - and yes boys and girls it is True; this shit seriously fucks with your head. For better or worse.
Meanwhile - I'll try again, who was that band?
Oh well Piss! I just went searching thru all my ticket stubs and i still can't can't remember who the band was, but - they were playing the Crocodile after all, and my point is this- the technology and equipment (low cost) is already there (here!) some bands are doing it already.
That's a perfect idea for the melvins. Good thinking Dood - whoever posted that. Cuz Now it's prob'ly Gonna happen! yeah - just wait and see.
And then there's that whole tour thing that pearl jam did, or does.
They do it over the internet, order the show ahead of time if you want, you get it in the mail 5-7 days later. That's any show, every show.
I'm not kidding about that band that played the Crock and was selling cd's of that show 15 minutes after the show was over.
Millenium Monsterwerks. Strangely, i was just listening to that this morning, first time in a long time. i just can't take patton's Vocals.
What a joke! The music is pretty cool - some straight up melvins and some other stuff. I gotta agree, it's at the bottom of my list of what i've got of the melvins.
yeah, i heard about selling cds of the show after the show, but i haven't been to one that's done it yet. it's a good idea. i went to primus a while ago and they were selling all of that tour for download on their site. i'd have to say i'd be much more willing to buy a copy of the concert right after the show then any other time. ...ya know, you're all emotional and stuff...if it's good. plus, it's the show YOU saw, not a compilation of the tour or a recording from some city you don't live in. i hope every body starts doing it, i've put so much work into tracking down crappy recordings of good shows i've been to.
this use to be a big secret before, but my band
does it, we've always recorded our shows and used
them as demos ---but the idea of selling multiple copies
afterwards never occured to me though!!!! 8)
all you'd need is a laptop with a burner built in and
pronto! thanks popeye, you rambling son-of-a-bitch !
:!:
hahha
I agree, its not the best recording, but i do believe its an EXCELLENT mix between patton and buzzo singing and definitely interesting mixes of styles between trey/kevin and dave/dale
this is weird i just listened to it yesterday. i would like to start off by saying in my opinion patton probably thinks he is a god. his stupid vocal wailings might add a little something to the songs but it's like a shred guitarist who doesn't know when to quit. he should've sang the melvins songs straight up b/c he does have a good voice .
Quote from: typing in a hazeit's like a shred guitarist who doesn't know when to quit. .
that's how I feel about Rocky George from Suicidal Tendencies; the music doesn't call for it.
Going to the mall is stupid. I was banned from our mall because I pissed in one of the the plants by the benches. Those bathrooms are hard to find. Tequila and pot are a hell of a mix.
DZ, Can you get me a bottle of Paddy's?
the best part of the mosterworks is the early renditions of what would become some of the H.A.T.
Yeah you're right, I forgot about that Soy Sauce.
yeah, i also sort of dig the slowed down version of the bit. not bad at all.
Hey, I think "Instant Live" is the company you guys are thinking about (that make the cds of the show and then sell them right afterward). Here's their webpage:
http://instantliveconcerts.com/
We are disappointed in this album. Doubling the amount of people in the band didn't work too well. Our hopes were set high for an awesome rendition of Night Goat, but what we got was barely above average.
The rest of the melvins songs were about the same quality except for Skin half Horse, which actually impressed us. Patton's screeches, wails, mumbles, and other strange noises were not well liked. We give it the "TRY HARDER" award for the year 2002. 6.5/10
We dont give a fuck what you think.
If only your posts would remain invisible.
There's a great link on the front page where the melvins rate their own
albums for CMJ. They go through one at a time and each make comments;
Fant
No, you are wrong. This CD owns. One of my favorite driving CDs. If only it was a double-set. What's not to love about Patton's screaming all over this set? It's a one-time collaboration, glad it was documented. Great when he sings the lead on Hooch. There should be a proper Fantomas live album though, I'd say.
they liked it, they gave it **** out of 5
Quote from: anaconda on October 08, 2005, 02:53:06 PM
they liked it, they gave it **** out of 5
Yeah, I know. That's a classic where Dale/Buzz rate their albums. My post was directed at the newbie who started this thread.
as were mine.
i think the CD is pretty damn good. grant it i'm not crazy about Mike Patton screaming on some of the songs, but i think it's a pretty strong record. instrumentally this album is brutal, they add a lot of little parts to songs. i love the parts added to "The Bloat". i agree with Dudbean though, i always forget i have this album.
i dont mind that cd, that version of mombius hibachi is much better except pattons screaming in the first half but the second part i like better because that riff isnt all wahy or whatever. i think i will take the first part from the studio version and the second from the fantomas melvins one and put them into one song to make the ultimate version of it :D.
I agree that's it'd kind of a retarded album and I almost never throw it on. However, I do love the song titles. Ripping Chicken Meat. Musthing with the Funts. She's A Puker. All great band names.
that version of Black stooges is INSANE.
When I listened to the origingal version afterwards it was almost like it missed something.
but they are both great renditions of the song.
but they could merge the two versions, that would be great.
Quote from: klump on October 09, 2005, 05:24:35 AM
that version of Black stooges is INSANE.
Agreed. That and Skin Horse are the highlights on Monsterworks, for me.
i liked it :P but then again, im not a patton hater like most people on this forum :)
This is a snap shot of our favorite band was at the turn of the century. It just so happened that they planned on recording a live set for us. Something different. As Dale says they are driving. That's what it is. A live recording documenting the Melvins at the turn of the century. Where were you? I can't remember where I was for fucks sake. I bet if I said I had a bootleg of the Melvins at the turn of the century, with Mike Patton and the Fantomas boys, everyone would be looking for a trade. It was a planned documentation, and I love it for what it is.
I'm relatively new to Melvins. I knew Hooch and Queen from way back when I was a kid so I have to thank Mike Patton for making me delve deeper and buy their albums. I bought Millenium Monsterworks and then proceeded to buy Honky, Hostile Ambient Takeover, Stag, Houdini and all the albums that contained songs from Millenium. So was it not a good introduction? I've since bought loads of their albums. I still need Gluey and Bootlicker and Prick and Electroretard but I'm still absorbing all their other stuff. Anyway Millenium Monsterworks is not a bad album. It just does'nt sound live i.e no audience cheers or speech from the band but musically it's excellent and I think Patton really adds to some songs.
Patton adds to some songs but becomes distracting on others. I have a few audio bootlegs of the big band and I like them a lot more than the Monsterwork.
the Monsterwork record i haven't listened to in a loooong time. it's not awful or anything, i just don't like what patton does so i'd rather listen to live melvins tracks instead. the cover art is pretty cool.
I like this album, but it would be a lot better if the sound quality was just a little better. You usually can't tell there are two basses or drums, unlike say, Divorced. The other day I downloaded all the other songs from that show that were left off the CD and they are pretty kickass too. They opened with a great version of Sacrifice.
If some of you have forgotten about this CD and haven't listened to it in a while, I suggest you throw it in and take another listen. I am listening to it right now and it is awesome. The best part is Buzz's guitar work and how every song is so fucked up. I always forget about this one, but its a good one to listen to when I want to take a breather from (a) senile animal.
Check it. :P
Quote from: the bloat on November 09, 2006, 09:52:10 PMwhen I want to take a breather from (a) senile animal.
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this is possible?
haha!
i knew you'd say something, maar. you are always very good at making sure people keep their musical horizons open and don't obsess (too much) on MELVINS
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Quote from: the bloat on November 09, 2006, 09:52:10 PMwhen I want to take a breather from (a) senile animal.
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this is possible?
It sure is.
I've been taking a break from (A)SA by listening to Collosus of Destiny. I've finally realized what a truly awesome album it really is.
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Quote from: the bloat on November 09, 2006, 09:52:10 PMwhen I want to take a breather from (a) senile animal.
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this is possible?
It sure is.
I've been taking a break from (A)SA by listening to Collosus of Destiny. I've finally realized what a truly awesome album it really is.
Ha, good for you!
And Vinney, yeah, I meant to say there is much more to listen to than just (A)SA, I also still haven't been listening to it religiously. I was just slightly dissapointed after the first listen, than it grew on me a little, because I got more familiar with the tracks. Then I read the first reviews and they were more positive than I would have had expected. Especially lately, since doom metal is being hyped and all that, and it's becoming quite popular, the Melvins have been mentioned a lot in all kinds of interviews and articles in that particular context, so I thought the majority of the people out there would be expecting something heavier and slower. And also, I still didn't like the album as much as I hoped I would.
But as always, the Melvins did their own thing and followed their own way. I don't think I've ever liked a Melvins album straight from the beginning, but there was always something that made me listen to it more.
But don't worry, I love everything they ever did, and my obsession with them will always stay, and even grow. But (A)SA still isn't my first choice when I put on some music - it sure will eventually, and then it will be played more and more - but right now it's other, but also good stuff.
QuoteI've been taking a break from (A)SA by listening to Collosus of Destiny. I've finally realized what a truly awesome album it really is.
I'm still waiting to catch that feeling. I throw it in about once every 3 months or so for some background noize.
Quote from: the bloat on November 10, 2006, 04:24:56 PM
QuoteI've been taking a break from (A)SA by listening to Collosus of Destiny. I've finally realized what a truly awesome album it really is.
I'm still waiting to catch that feeling. I throw it in about once every 3 months or so for some background noize.
It's a word feeling, that's for sure. But I threw it in last night, and I thought it was just amazing. The sounds swooshing and running around. There's a definite mood to it, but I have no idea what that could possibly be. Of course, my friends now hate me for listening to it, but fuck 'em.
I saw don't put it on as background noise, give it your full, undivided attention, and you'll grow to appreciate it.
This page says that cherub appears on the album, if so which track # is it?
http://www.themelvins.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cherub
I think the page is supposed to read that they performed the song at the show in which the recording is derived yet it is not included on the album. Let me know, I haven't listened to this one in years.
Quote from: Reverend Ebeneezer on December 28, 2003, 08:34:42 AM
No sir, I don't like it.
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Been listening to this one a few times lately. I don't know why but i had sort of completely forgot it even existed!! I hadn't checked it out for some time because i seemed to remember the recording not being very good. Anyway i was wrong and i really enjoyed it. Obviously the tracklist favours Fantomas more over Melvins, but do you guys see this is a proper Melvins record? Or maybe leaning more over to the Fantomas side? It would be great if they did something else like this in the future.
Quote from: brian on July 15, 2009, 08:35:48 AM
This page says that cherub appears on the album, if so which track # is it?
http://www.themelvins.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cherub
I think the page is supposed to read that they performed the song at the show in which the recording is derived yet it is not included on the album. Let me know, I haven't listened to this one in years.
Never noticed this on the wiki. Still needs to be updated.
I wish they'd release that version of "Cherub" and "Chariot Choogle"
Also, WTH is "White Men are the Vermin of the Earth" I thought these bizarre title tunes were all from the Fantomas debut, but no one lists it as a "page" song.
If you want an official version of Cherub I think you have to go to the mp3s on MLVNSvsMPLS.
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Quote from: brian on July 15, 2009, 08:35:48 AM
Also, WTH is "White Men are the Vermin of the Earth" I thought these bizarre title tunes were all from the Fantomas debut, but no one lists it as a "page" song.
Oh it's the David Scott Stone piece. Thanks, riffipedia. https://riffipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Millennium_Monsterwork_2000