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Title: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: GrimReaper on January 20, 2008, 12:55:34 PM

First off I want to thank Brian for the Melvins Wiki. What an amazing archive that has become.

The single is all silence but some say it's a cover of this work of silence by John Cage:

Black Mountain, 4
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: (PAUL) on January 20, 2008, 01:02:40 PM
I remember when they toured in I think it was '02 when they would just stand there on stage without playing anything it was regarded as a cover of 4'33" by some people.
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: anaconda on January 20, 2008, 01:04:18 PM
http://www.themelvins.net/covered.html 

C

Artist- John Cage

Album- Shit Sandwich 7"

Song- 4'33
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 20, 2008, 01:06:37 PM
There's one song where, a note is played each year, and I believe the song ends in thirty years.  Let me find what its called.
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: Eponymous on January 20, 2008, 02:32:08 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on January 20, 2008, 01:06:37 PM
There's one song where, a note is played each year, and I believe the song ends in thirty years.  Let me find what its called.

"Organ2/ASLSP"

As Slow As Possible

Composed in 1987, avant-garde American composer John Cage (1912-1992) adapted Organ
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: GrimReaper on January 20, 2008, 02:42:59 PM
Quote from: anaconda on January 20, 2008, 01:04:18 PM
http://www.themelvins.net/covered.html 

C

Artist- John Cage

Album- Shit Sandwich 7"

Song- 4'33

That's cool.

I always wondered what was going through Buzz's mind during the silence of the '02 Tour. He definately was concentrating on something. Maybe he was somehow timing 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

I'm still curious if anyone actually timed their Grumpy's single.

How long is Pure Digital Silence?

What about the silence after the Honky CD? Is this in fact a hidden song?

:shock:
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: bathroom creep on January 21, 2008, 09:53:38 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on January 20, 2008, 02:42:59 PM

How long is Pure Digital Silence?

What about the silence after the Honky CD? Is this in fact a hidden song?

"Pure Digital Silence" (Melvins)
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: norecess on January 21, 2008, 09:57:17 AM
It's studio time, paid for by Atlantic.
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: rimb on January 21, 2008, 11:09:07 AM
Don't forget Blood Duster's cover of the Melvins version on their Str8outtanorthcote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Str8_Outta_Northcote) album!

:lol:
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: GrimReaper on January 21, 2008, 12:05:51 PM
There's also around 6'54 of silence at the end of the Crybaby, then "Again."

I always liked the way it kicks back into Smell Like Teen Spirit.

I have one of the first copys of Nirvana 'Nevermind" with out the silence and the extra song.

I've never thought about it but maybe Buzz put the silence after Moon Pie on Crybaby to emphasise Nevermind and Smells like.

Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: norecess on January 21, 2008, 12:17:17 PM
Quote from: GrimReaper on January 21, 2008, 12:05:51 PM
I've never thought about it but maybe Buzz put the silence after Moon Pie on Crybaby to emphasise Nevermind and Smells like.

It was first used on The Maggot, where the beginning of Toy can be heard.
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: bathroom creep on January 21, 2008, 12:21:02 PM
After Moon Pie on the Crybaby, isn't there also a tiny preview of  amazon?
Like the preview of Smells Like Teen Spirit at the end of the Bootlicker?
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: GrimReaper on January 21, 2008, 12:39:33 PM

I just listened to Crybaby

Crybaby Starts out clean with Smell Like Teen Spirit and ends with Moon Pie and the silence and the "again."

Bootliker does tranition into Crybaby like you guys stated, but I'm talking about the comparison to the Nevermind album, after Geffen allowed the silence and the "hidden song".

Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: Eponymous on January 21, 2008, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: GrimReaper on January 21, 2008, 12:39:33 PM

I just listened to Crybaby

Crybaby Starts out clean with Smell Like Teen Spirit and ends with Moon Pie and the silence and the "again."

Bootliker does tranition into Crybaby like you guys stated, but I'm talking about the comparison to the Nevermind album, after Geffen allowed the silence and the "hidden song".



I just thought it was a way of linking the albums.

Regarding the silence and hidden track on Nevermind;
Quote from: WikipediaNevermind was mastered on the afternoon of August 2 in The Mastering Lab in Hollywood, California (according to the album's sleeve notes). Weinberg started working alone when no one else showed up at the appointed time in the studio; by the time Nirvana, Andy Wallace, and Gary Gersh arrived, Weinberg had mastered most of the album.[19] One of the songs mastered at the session, a hidden track called "Endless, Nameless" intended to appear at the end of "Something in the Way", was accidentally left off of initial pressings of the album. Weinberg recalled, "In the beginning, it was kind of a verbal thing to put that track at the end. Maybe I misconstrued their instructions, so you can call it my mistake if you want. Maybe I didn't write it down when Nirvana or the record company said to do it. So, when they pressed the first twenty thousand or so CDs, albums, and cassettes, it wasn't on there." When the band discovered the song's omission after listening to their copy of the album, Cobain called Weinberg and demanded he rectify the mistake.[20] Weinberg complied and added about ten minutes of silence between the end of "Something in the Way" and the start of the hidden track on future pressings of the album.

I didn't know it was not initially there. I always thought it was only on some pressings, then on all re-pressings. I remember seeing an interview with Krist, I think, where he was a little surprised that people found it.
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: Chief Ten Beers on January 21, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
I've got a Frank Zappa VHS boot from Germany '78 @ the Circus tent aka "We Don't Mess Around" where he does an "on the spot" take of 4:33.  I couldn't find that part of the show on youtube.
Title: Re: Grumpy's Shit Sandwich Single
Post by: GrimReaper on January 21, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on January 21, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
I've got a Frank Zappa VHS boot from Germany '78 @ the Circus tent aka "We Don't Mess Around" where he does an "on the spot" take of 4:33.  I couldn't find that part of the show on youtube.

:lol: :lol: