Why exactly was Kevin kicked out of The Melvins? I remember in late 2004 they cancelled a ton of tour dates for some odd reason involving Kevin. He got back together with them for one show in 2005. Later that year news broke that he was no longer in the band. All I remember was reading somewhere that Buzz said "there's only so much I could take" or something like that.
Anybody know what went wrong?
hey leroy. you should spend some time browsing over this message board.
this has been hashed, hashed again and re-hashed here.
just do a search of "kevin rutmanis" in the MELVINS discussion. you'll find the opinions you're looking for. and thats all you'll find is opinions. if you want facts I suggest looking up the parties involved.
we will probably never really know. but this is from the wikipedia which
buzz has been known to edit and update and it hasn't been removed as
vandalism so you never know:
''In June of 2005, Rutmanis officially left the band with drug abuse rumored as the major cause.''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvins
We may never know until the Melvins biography is released but Monkey's Uncle provides some insight.
Don't ask us to explain please.
i recently heard from an unreliable source that he od'd on heroin and got sent away to an insane asylum for electroshock therapy. the irony is now clear..Kevin is an electroretard. the irony.. the metaphores the similies the ottomotopoieas ohhh the limmericks.
out of fantasy,he was kicked out cause was not able or didn't want to work seriously with the band.in my opinion the story is so clear that there is nothing to explain.i was very disappointed at the time,but seeing what kevin has done after the Melvins (nothing),think Buzz and Dale were forced to take the decison.about speculations,who know if was amphetamine or heroine?is not so important and Melvins aren't Guns n Roses :)
how do you pronounce kevin's last name?
rut man ass
Rutmanis.
i asked him what happened and this is what he said:
"Melvins fired me for a variety of personal/professional reasons, all of which started with my drinking problem....I've been sober now 2 1/2 years...but there was more, and frankly it's just as well. Tomahawk never officially fired me, I just heard through the grape vine they werent using me! ouch! thats show biz."
:) miss this guy!! looks so intellectual now
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Quote from: gronk on April 21, 2008, 05:09:55 AM
i asked him what happened and this is what he said:
"Melvins fired me for a variety of personal/professional reasons, all of which started with my drinking problem....
I hate to say I told you so, BUT......
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Quote from: black stallion on April 21, 2008, 05:49:14 AM
:) miss this guy!! looks so intellectual now
(http://a825.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_c1e48bb956b20e33aac23aed61d1aa40.jpg)
This is really Kevin?
on the right. :D
yes, that is the honest-to-goodness real deal.
the one and only kevin j. rutmanis.
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his new project called "Hepatitis" :
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=157609360
he's got nice boobs. :D
thats his art hanging on the wall. I wonder if thats his place. if so it looks like a nice place.
I wondered about the singer from the Cows. Shanon Seems like he's violent!
That's Rutmanis...Michael Keaton's twin brother:
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(http://a825.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_c1e48bb956b20e33aac23aed61d1aa40.jpg)
he's a damn good bass player
What a wasted opportunity.
Hey Uncle Glen, tell us the story again where you saw K in a bar and he downed two shots in a row? COME ON! [-o<
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 21, 2008, 07:41:26 PM
Hey Uncle Glen, tell us the story again where you saw K in a bar and he downed two shots in a row? COME ON! [-o<
I saw K in a bar and he downed two shots in a row.
His bass playing was really great in Orphan's Tragedy. He should have been allowed to co-write more of the stuff in The Melvins
He should join the Heroine Sheiks.
yeah i thought he was kickass for the melvins and tomahawk. he is missed
Buzz > Kevin, wholly, as a sexy beast, a gentlemen, and a musician.
I'm a relatively new Melvins fan (3 yrs really strong, though I saw them open for Tool in '97) and from listening to their progress, Kevin couldn't keep up with the Buzz/Dale songwriting.
unless you're kevin's brain you don't know anything dipshits
In all fairness, a bass player getting kicked out of the Melvins isn't exactly a new occurrence. It could be he just got canned.
Anyways, yeah, Kevin has rocked in the Cows, he rocked in Tomahawk, and he rocked in the Melvins.
Shitbeard is a great song. A GREAT SONG
Kevin was pulling hella-more birds than Buzz or Dale. That's why.
I hope he joins the Christina Aguilera on her next album, imagine the live show him dancing and her, all the gyrating would be something to behold.
Ugly man, ugly face and propably 100 years old... Did they have any other choice than fire him?
Quote from: YearZero on May 12, 2008, 08:58:05 AM
ugly face
thank you for that. you've brightened my day.
find the sign :D
(http://a592.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/124/l_6ceb746543ab17f8fce3766d69cca157.jpg)
ps:love new Hepatitis stuff,sounds so sick..hope one day they will release an album http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=157609360
Quote from: YearZero on May 12, 2008, 08:58:05 AM
Ugly man, ugly face and propably 100 years old... Did they have any other choice than fire him?
by that logic buzzo may fire dale and himself soon
don't be hating kev
kev is the man, brilliant to watch. the man has style.
I wonder if Buzz went to Mike or Duane and told them to sack him? The two events seems awfully connected...
Quote from: bionicanchovy on September 03, 2008, 03:46:12 PM
I wonder if Buzz went to Mike or Duane and told them to sack him? The two events seems awfully connected...
This is some info I received from an inside source. Kevin was let go, mainly due to an alcohol issue that I hope has been resolved. I am sure this is the exact same reason he is no longer in Tomahawk. I am just glad to see he is doing some killer music and staying active.
There's also been some discussion that he was let go
from Tomahawk before the Melvins fired him
Kevin read on the internet that he was no longer in Tomahawk. This was after Melvins fired him, I think.
Quote from: black stallion on September 03, 2008, 04:03:06 AM
find the sign :D
(http://a592.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/124/l_6ceb746543ab17f8fce3766d69cca157.jpg)
ps:love new Hepatitis stuff,sounds so sick..hope one day they will release an album http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=157609360
Ha, melvins -> kevins
Isn't Tomahawk over and done with already as a band? Or is that another discussion on another board ?
the only sure thing is that Kevin is missed by many.
Quote from: Dead Guy Ale on September 03, 2008, 05:34:09 PM
Isn't Tomahawk over and done with already as a band? Or is that another discussion on another board ?
If Tomahawk is no more, that's news to me (and probably them as well).
Quote from: spunkmonkey on September 03, 2008, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: Dead Guy Ale on September 03, 2008, 05:34:09 PM
Isn't Tomahawk over and done with already as a band? Or is that another discussion on another board ?
If Tomahawk is no more, that's news to me (and probably them as well).
i'm... 90 percent sure they're still active.
you saying that made me 10 percent less confident.
although, they didn't tour Anonymous did they?
Quote from: Dead Guy Ale on September 03, 2008, 05:34:09 PM
Isn't Tomahawk over and done with already as a band? Or is that another discussion on another board ?
I remember Mike Patton being asked about this and he said that when the album came out he was busy with Peeping Tom, Daune was busy with USSA, and John was busy with Battles. He also mentioned a possiblity of touring in the future. It seems like it was rumored that Mike Watt was going to tour with them.
whoever posted hepatitus' myspace page, thanks. it never occurred to me to look there to find stuff by them. just goes to show how far behind the times i am.
how is this band not signed? from what i've been listening to so far, it's pretty friggin' great.
i can see Hepatitis as a project,not as a main project though.guess Kevin and the other members involved work on that stuff not fulltime.besides rumors about don't know what,guess right now he isn't really interested about to be in a band and work hard in a band.
Kevin is the only Melvin's bassist where I could actually see him playing again in some reunion shows in the future.
Before you say anything...Mike Dillard did it!
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
Although I like all of their bassists, I found Kevin to be the most creative one overall. I always dug the way he'd step waaay outside of the box of the "bass player role". And for the record, his bass work was a big part of the appeal for the Tomahawk stuff IMHO...I didn't even really like (or purchase) Anonymous for that matter.
How the hell did Kevin pull more birds than Buzz or Dale?!? Women are so confusing.
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on September 05, 2008, 02:25:39 AM
How the hell did Kevin pull more birds than Buzz or Dale?!? Women are so confusing.
women like the bad boy. come on bUTTHOLE, get with it!
Quote from: PAUL on September 04, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
Dillard has remained a close friend of Buzz's since he quit the band.
Quote from: PAUL on September 04, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
Buzz has brought him back so that he can fire him. He has that collector mentality.
I heard Kevin hitting on Mackie was the last straw [-X
Quote from: PAUL on September 04, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
I was thinking the same, but I was just going thru "Heavier than Heaven" by Charles R. Cross and on page 81 you can read:
Quote from: glen on September 05, 2008, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on September 05, 2008, 02:25:39 AM
How the hell did Kevin pull more birds than Buzz or Dale?!? Women are so confusing.
women like the bad boy. come on bUTTHOLE, get with it!
Bad boy? More like gimp boy.
Quote from: Smellis on September 05, 2008, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: PAUL on September 04, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
Dillard has remained a close friend of Buzz's since he quit the band.
Yep, unfortunately I don't think Kevin remained close to anyone in the Melvins. And I've never read Heavier than Heaven, isn't it mainly about Nirvana?
Quote from: PAUL on September 07, 2008, 12:41:57 AM
Quote from: Smellis on September 05, 2008, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: PAUL on September 04, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
Dillard has remained a close friend of Buzz's since he quit the band.
Yep, unfortunately I don't think Kevin remained close to anyone in the Melvins. And I've never read Heavier than Heaven, isn't it mainly about Nirvana?
yeah, it's one of those kurt cobain books where the first chapters are funny because it's all about the melvins :D
Ah, well I might have to check out the first couple chapters then stop reading.
lukin's a whiner....
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that never gets old. glad to see it back in action.
kevin rutmanis is an indie rock jesus christ
Quote from: ManWithNoName on April 21, 2008, 09:20:49 AM
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Grapes!
Quote from: (PAUL) on September 04, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Mike Dillard was also the only member to quit, not get fired.
Dillard quit to go on a Mormon mission to Bohemia.
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is that a recent pic?
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?
what band?
Quote from: bruce on March 26, 2012, 04:13:30 AM
what band?
i think he's recording the new Hepatitus with Toshi&Dale
Quote from: jules on March 26, 2012, 04:16:27 AM
Is that Dale behind him?
Im almost certain that's a YES.
Quote from: black stallion on March 26, 2012, 04:26:16 AM
maybe he's recording that cover song with the melvins
I would say that's the best guess.
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 26, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
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Who's this with Buzzo then, plus is that an ipod or something?
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Quote from: GrimReaper on March 26, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
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Who's this with Buzzo then, plus is that an ipod or something?
It's a stylophone I think
Quote from: )))((( on March 26, 2012, 05:18:30 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on March 26, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
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Who's this with Buzzo then, plus is that an ipod or something?
MARK ARM!!!!!
^^^ Seing this makes me very happy!!!
Mark Arm stopped levelling up in time since he was a teenager.
Cows live @ CBGB - Hitting the Wall,GarbageSoup(Part 2 of 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3kIfBCylk#)
Great Kevin video and his base sounds incredable. What is on his face?
Lipstick. I'd wager.
love that song
In the studio with Toshi.
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i thought that was coady at first.
Lovely pic. Parenting Kevin style! :)
Quote from: norecess on April 17, 2012, 04:25:57 AM
i thought that was coady at first.
you mean the kid?
ok, what's going on between Buzzo and Mark Arm?
Working on a split Sugar Daddy Single release is my guess.
Is that Kevin's kid? :shock: I don't remember him having all those tattoos on his arms when he was with the Melvins either.
apparently its coady. hard to tell.
Quote from: Lurch on April 18, 2012, 01:46:28 PM
apparently its coady. hard to tell.
it's Kevin doing vocals for the new Hepatitus
WOO KEVIL! Like Evil Kevin!!!
WE love you!!!
RRrrrutabega Rottenhaus Rides AGAIN!!!
Hm wow man, someone else here has heard of a Stylophone!!! WOW! :shock:
buzz Is like,.."you call that thing a STYLOPHONE??? That's not what we had when I was a Kid!!!"
Kevin and Mark got married and adopted a baby.
Quote from: Kolonel Kurtz Kobain on May 30, 2012, 09:40:30 AM
Kevin and Mark got married and adopted a baby.
did they invite Buzz at the wedding?
he was the ring boy
Is Mark on bad terms with Dale and Buzz?
Sorry to change the subject
ya, they addressed it with the trilogy:
Mark Deutrom = The Crybaby
Matt Lukin = The Maggot
Joe Preston = The Bootlicker
Quote from: anaconda on May 30, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
ya, they addressed it with the trilogy:
Mark Deutrom = The Crybaby
Matt Lukin = The Maggot
Joe Preston = The Bootlicker
I never realized that. :shock:
and the order of the albums coincide with the order the bassists were in the band.
It's good to know they've kind of reconciled with Kevin, and I get the feeling they're not really on bad terms with Lori. granted, probably no contact, but probably not as bad as Matt, Joe, and Mark.
A Senile Animal=Lori
Nude With Boots=Kevin
That seems fitting :lol:
Quote from: anaconda on May 30, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
ya, they addressed it with the trilogy:
Mark Deutrom = The Crybaby
Matt Lukin = The Maggot
Joe Preston = The Bootlicker
:shock:
That's fascinating. They should do a Kevin one called The Returner. :D
Quote from: anaconda on May 30, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
ya, they addressed it with the trilogy:
Mark Deutrom = The Crybaby
Matt Lukin = The Maggot
Joe Preston = The Bootlicker
and mark d titled his first solo album 'the silent treatment'.
Quote from: Metalhead Cow on May 30, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
Is Mark on bad terms with Dale and Buzz?
Sorry to change the subject
there's a mark d interview during the release of one of his albums where he seems very apologetic to buzz and dale, offering out olive branches.
Rutmanis would weird me the fuck out with his facial expressions and the way he contorted around onstage. REALLY liked his bass playing both on H.A.T. and for live performances though. Had never seen someone rock slide bass before him (i.e. see how pretty, see how smart). Had never thought much about why he isn't in the Melvins anymore; probably because they seem to generally go the route of the disposable bassist.
I have to admit at times I've been a little on the fence concerning my feeling towards good ole Mr. Rutmanis. He almost always looks like he could use a shower and shave! :lol: but more Importantly why would he leave Tomahawk??? Anyhow these petty things are really of no consequence and if anything my failed attempt at humor. In all seriousness tho, I just listened to The Fool 45 on my system with the awesome speakers and had a realization: "Holy fuck his bass line during the quiet part where Buzz's vocals come in is off the hook". I've always loved this song but must have overlooked how great the bass line is. Kevin Rutmanis and H.A.T. are both the shit!!!
Quote from: Dan_Halen on August 03, 2012, 11:00:30 PM
I have to admit at times I've been a little on the fence concerning my feeling towards good ole Mr. Rutmanis. He almost always looks like he could use a shower and shave! :lol: but more Importantly why would he leave Tomahawk??? Anyhow these petty things are really of no consequence and if anything my failed attempt at humor. In all seriousness tho, I just listened to The Fool 45 on my system with the awesome speakers and had a realization: "Holy fuck his bass line during the quiet part where Buzz's vocals come in is off the hook". I've always loved this song but must have overlooked how great the bass line is. Kevin Rutmanis and H.A.T. are both the shit!!!
I always thought that Mike and the boys just recorded Anonymous without telling Kevin. I thought it kind of just happened like this.
Pretty weak if it was like that.
The world needs musicians like Shannon Selberg, Rutmanis etc.. to be making music.
First of all, I am pretty darn sure that is Coady in the photo. Hard to tell, but I think it's him.
Second, Tomawho? Tomawhat? Let's get down to brass tax and talk about what's important here:
Well, from the recent photos I have seen, Kevin is looking a lot healthier these days. If any one bass player could or would be taken back for another EP or whatever, surely it would be him. Right? Right guys? [-o< He does look like he's cleaned up.... that's...the most important part.
No jinxin, but Dale did mention a lot of upcoming projects with special guests (beyond the three line-ups and splits that we already know about :shock: :shock:) in that Metal Sucks interview from earlier this year. I'm looking forward to ungodly amounts of new material as well as a lot of surprises. I can only cross my fingers that Kevin can take a part in this awesome awesome awesome time to be in the Melvins Army. If not...life goes on.
Also.THIS. :love: :love: :love:
The Melvins Manky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCAg3axbu3c#ws)
http://hepa-titus.bandcamp.com/album/follow-me (http://hepa-titus.bandcamp.com/album/follow-me)
090310 • Hepa/Titus • Echopulco @ Sancho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=020tIxu5YwM#)
Hepa/Titus @ The Stud in SF, CA. Kevin Rutmanis (ex-COWS/ex-MELVINS/ex-TOMAHAWK)'s new band. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K3NaHVVYeg#ws)
Quote from: (the) Razor on August 04, 2012, 12:03:19 AM
I always thought that Mike and the boys just recorded Anonymous without telling Kevin. I thought it kind of just happened like this.
Pretty weak if it was like that.
I only know what it says on Wiki....that he left during Anonymous and reasons were unknown. If they did that to him then that is messed up, but maybe it's because he was messed up at the time?
Quote from: JUDY on August 04, 2012, 01:35:27 AM
Second, Tomawho? Tomawhat? Let's get down to brass tax and talk about what's important here:
Isn't that a Jay Z song? :P... and I only brought Tomawhatsitsface up because if it was Kevin's choice to leave then I would question his judgement and mental stability at that particular point in time. I'm glad to hear he is healthier and I hope they do a single together. Even if they don't...Maggot and HAT are two of the best albums the Melvins have ever put out and nobody can ever take that away from him.
(Unless Patton has Ipecac change the credits on the CD cover :lol:)
Quote from: (the) Razor on August 04, 2012, 12:03:19 AM
I always thought that Mike and the boys just recorded Anonymous without telling Kevin.
Yep.
Hey man, I like Tomahawk. True, it's a shitty situation but getting the boot from that band doesn't seem like a big loss to me. Then again, what do I know? I'm just a nerd spouting off opinions on a message board.
The MS interview mentioned recording one song (a Roxy Music Cover :lol:) with Kevin and Jello. That'd be super awesome if that happened. It would be even awesomer if Kevin stuck around to record a few more. If not, oh well. He's an amazing bass player and if he choses to stay clean I really can't see him stopping anytime soon.
Quote from: "El Hombre" on August 04, 2012, 02:14:16 AM
Hepa/Titus @ The Stud in SF, CA. Kevin Rutmanis (ex-COWS/ex-MELVINS/ex-TOMAHAWK)'s new band. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K3NaHVVYeg#ws)
Yes please 8)
Quote from: Dan_Halen on August 04, 2012, 09:16:44 AM
I only know what it says on Wiki....that he left during Anonymous and reasons were unknown. If they did that to him then that is messed up, but maybe it's because he was messed up at the time?
He went AWOL from the Melvins in like 2005, the story goes the band couldn't contact him (he'd got back on the gear) so had to get Trevor Dunn in to record that Houdini live album with them. Buzz supposedly kicked him out of the band immediately and Tomahawk basically did the same. Buzz & Patton are really close so I assume Patton just followed Buzz's lead on that.