The latest issue of Revolver is all about Tool and there is a short interview with Buzzo. I'm bored waiting to see Thrones tomorrow so I might as well type it up for you people!
Revolver: When did you first meet the guys in Tool?
Buzz: It was in the early 90s when they opened for us at the Hollywood Palladium at a show with Gwar. Adam now says we were "mean" to them, but I know that's bullshit because I'm never mean to anyone. I don't remember much about them, but about two seconds later they were all over MTV. I'm surprised they ever talked to us again. Later on, in about '97, we did an arena tour opening for them, and then in '98 they asked us to do the horrid Ozzfest tour and I became better friends with them. Adam is one of my dearest friends.
Revolver: How have Tool's fans responded to your bands?
Buzz: It varies from bad to worse. Some of it was OK, but by and large arena-level audiences are total idiots and Tool's crowd is no different. I remember once a Tool fan insisted on stopping me in the hallway after our set to explain in detail why we sucked. I listened for about 30 seconds and then I showed a security guard my all-access pass and told him I saw the guy pull his pants down in front of a chick coming out of the girls' can and the kid got tossed out on his ass before Tool even played! Ha!
Revolver: What influence have Tool had on you?
Buzz: I've worked a lot with Adam and I dig it a whole lot. He understands my strange way of writing songs and he's not afraid of noise. He has a really great guitar tone, which I would love to steal.
Revolver: What do you think makes Tool so unique?
Buzz: Smoke and mirrors.
They also interview Tomas Haake and Mike Patton. I might post those if anyone is interested.
Woah, very cool, thanks for typing this out.
I wonder if the interviewer saw your question on here, bHm, and wanted to get to the bottom of it with Buzz? :shock:
Haha, I wonder too. :lol: :P
Quote from: seas of luck on May 13, 2008, 01:01:33 AM
Revolver: What do you think makes Tool so unique?
Buzz: Smoke and mirrors.
That's right.
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
folks, this is the kind of posts you'll make when you listen too much "for" the stone temple pilots.
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
Tool is a great big yawn. Buzz does of course not, both of tactical reasons and perhaps out of friendship-reasons, want to say his actual meaning about Tool.
Me and Fart are colliding planets on many aspects, but when it comes to Melvins and Tool we are on the same wave. (perhaps Farty now decides to begin fancying
Tool after this? :lol:)
And YearZero, to intelctualize music is just totally lame. Even Melvins aren`t doing rocket science when they play their instruments, although they are
very close.
Quote from: Schnabster on May 13, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
Tool is a great big yawn. Buzz does of course not, both of tactical reasons and perhaps out of friendship-reasons, want to say his actual meaning about Tool.
Me and Fart are colliding planets on many aspects, but when it comes to Melvins and Tool we are on the same wave. (perhaps Farty now decides to begin fancying
Tool after this? :lol:)
And YearZero, to intelctualize music is just totally lame. Even Melvins aren`t doing rocket science when they play their instruments, although they are
very close.
Exactly. It doesn't make people "too stupid" just because they dont understand or enjoy Tool's music...
That's just like saying "every single person that enjoys The Ramones music (because it's simple) is stupid, and has bad taste in music".
Quote from: Leroy on May 13, 2008, 11:40:21 AM
Exactly. It doesn't make people "too stupid" just because they dont understand or enjoy Tool's music...
if not understanding or enjoying tool's music makes you stupid then call me a vegetable.
I loves me some tool digs!
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
Stupid statement. But maybe in 16 I thought also.
I'm pretty sure that people who check out Tool are not trying to find any similarities to The Beatles in their music. 8)
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
Or maybe tool fan boys are just pretentious twats who don't know shit.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on May 13, 2008, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
Or maybe tool fan boys are just pretentious twats who don't know shit.
=D> =D> =D>
There seems to be two types of Tool fans; the asformentioned pretentious twats, and the idiotic cavemen who hate everything else. For a band who seems intelligent their fans sure are stupid.
it's not unlike rush fans, really. when i saw BB open for tool last year, i thought i was at a giant kegger or in the middle of some toxic waste dump in cottage country...
Quote from: seas of luck on May 13, 2008, 01:01:33 AM
Revolver: How have Tool's fans responded to your bands?
Buzz: It varies from bad to worse. Some of it was OK, but by and large arena-level audiences are total idiots and Tool's crowd is no different. I remember once a Tool fan insisted on stopping me in the hallway after our set to explain in detail why we sucked. I listened for about 30 seconds and then I showed a security guard my all-access pass and told him I saw the guy pull his pants down in front of a chick coming out of the girls' can and the kid got tossed out on his ass before Tool even played! Ha!
this is in the top five things buzz has ever said (competition is, of course, fierce). if it's actually true, it's surely one of the greatest non-musical things he's ever done.
behind giving kurt cobain a "hot shot," i mean. i'm just going to keep repeating that until it becomes part of the generally accepted rock mythology, along with ler does coke.
Quote from: Schnabster on May 13, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
perhaps Farty now decides to begin fancying
Tool after this?
me loves tool, hates slayer!!!!!
i like everything up to aenima, after that its just really heavy jam band music. i'm a so-so fan right now, but i think maynard's pretentiousness has rubbed off on the majority of their fans.
Quote from: YearZero on May 13, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
Some people are just too stupid to understand Tool's music. That's what happens when you listen too much for The Beatles.
you are going to miss out on everything cool in life.
Quote from: seas of luck on May 13, 2008, 01:01:33 AM
The latest issue of Revolver is all about Tool .....
Thanks for starting this thread - I just got the last copy @ the newsstand - Karma for you!!
I liked Aenema, but yes, after that the stuff was too boring and jammy
I used to like Tool a lot but at this point I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there's nothing too special about them and they're way too far up their own asses, along with all their pretentious, stoned "hipper than thou" fans. My buddy met Maynard and Adam at a guitar clinic that was meant to teach kids to play guitar and said that Maynard wouldn't even acknowledge anybody in the room.
i had a friend relate to me a story from adam about how he met maynard and you'll understand the dude is firmly stuck up his own wierd ass. the friend was a labelmate so there is some validity.
I met Adam outside a Melvins show in Oly many years ago. He was cool. I only spent 30 seconds talking to him, but he was pleasant. As for Maynard, no idea.
Maynard is very friendly with the ladies.
All of these posts remindes me of a really hilarious joke that I heard...
Puscifer
#-o
Quote from: PAUL on May 13, 2008, 05:15:37 PM
There seems to be two types of Tool fans; the asformentioned pretentious twats, and the idiotic cavemen who hate everything else. For a band who seems intelligent their fans sure are stupid.
Each group have "the idiotic caveman who hate everything else" amongst the fans.
I think the pretentious twats take the cake for the most annoying people you could ever meet. I know all these guys that sit around in a garage and trip balls on whatever hallucinogen they can find and try to find the "meaning" of the latest Tool offering. Then you try to introduce them to music that's not tool and it's "irrelevant" and "meaningless" compared to Maynard's "lyrical genius" or whatever other crap they have to say.
Ugh, I hate how every time Tool gets mentioned it turns in to a huge debate about if the band sucks and if their fans suck. I still like them a lot and wouldn't consider myself a pretentious twat or a caveman. I could honestly care less how they act in person. I've heard worse stories about David Sims and Steve Albini.
Anyway... I think it's hilarious that a dumbass Tool fan got kicked out for telling Buzz he sucked!
Id say there is a 3rd group of tool fans.
Ones who realise that their music is good but they also like the Melvin's so cant be arsed with all tools twatery.
Quote from: glen on May 13, 2008, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: Leroy on May 13, 2008, 11:40:21 AM
Exactly. It doesn't make people "too stupid" just because they dont understand or enjoy Tool's music...
if not understanding or enjoying tool's music makes you stupid then call me a vegetable.
I loves me some tool digs!
:lol:
Quote from: seas of luck on May 14, 2008, 03:47:56 AM
Ugh, I hate how every time Tool gets mentioned it turns in to a huge debate about if the band sucks and if their fans suck. I still like them a lot and wouldn't consider myself a pretentious twat or a caveman. I could honestly care less how they act in person. I've heard worse stories about David Sims and Steve Albini.
Anyway... I think it's hilarious that a dumbass Tool fan got kicked out for telling Buzz he sucked!
I used to defend Steve Albini for some reason; someone said he was misogynistic, I said he wasn't..but he probably is.
Quote from: seas of luck on May 14, 2008, 03:47:56 AM
Ugh, I hate how every time Tool gets mentioned it turns in to a huge debate about if the band sucks and if their fans suck. I still like them a lot and wouldn't consider myself a pretentious twat or a caveman. I could honestly care less how they act in person. I've heard worse stories about David Sims and Steve Albini.
Anyway... I think it's hilarious that a dumbass Tool fan got kicked out for telling Buzz he sucked!
david sims hit one of my friends on the head with his bass, and steve albini put one of the same friends, friends into a headlock :shock:! both stories are true.
on the other hand i met sims years ago and he was extremely nice to me.
Quote from: NickP on May 14, 2008, 01:07:05 AM
I think the pretentious twats take the cake for the most annoying people you could ever meet. I know all these guys that sit around in a garage and trip balls on whatever hallucinogen they can find and try to find the "meaning" of the latest Tool offering. Then you try to introduce them to music that's not tool and it's "irrelevant" and "meaningless" compared to Maynard's "lyrical genius" or whatever other crap they have to say.
you sound a little bitter... are you saying that listening to Tool desensitizes people?
i thought Tool was supposed to be waking us up from desensitization.
i wouldnt say people who don't get Tool are stupid, they are just different.
i mean, everyone can't be perfect... lol
to me Tool is like pink floyd or led zeppelin, Tool is the ultimate journey into the rhythmic landscapes of Danny Carey & Adam Jones (2 main members).
overall the band belongs to Adam.
if you ask him, he'll tell you the same thing.
Tool fans are not Tool.
if you judge the band by their fans then you are ignorant anyways.
i really hate all those pretentious ones too, i doubt maynard is one of those ones.
Quote from: ninigiku on May 14, 2008, 04:59:57 PM
i really hate all those pretentious ones too, i doubt maynard is one of those ones.
umm... ever tried listened to his lyrics?
nm- I`m just joking (or atleast half-joking)
What's Mike got to say??
PAGING REVEREND MIKE!
seas, can you post the patton interview? i'm curious to see if he says anything about a tomahawk tour.
Sorry guys my friend took back the magazine. His interview was as short as Buzz's and he was asked similar questions. To paraphrase it he was asked how Tool fans felt and he replied, "Weeellll, let's just say I got a lot of spare change after the show. I can't really blame them though because I'd be mad too if I paid $60 to see my favorite band and then a bunch of weirdos starting making noise on stage." He also joked about meeting Tool at the Kansas fan club in the late 70's.
Quote from: ninigiku on May 14, 2008, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: NickP on May 14, 2008, 01:07:05 AM
I think the pretentious twats take the cake for the most annoying people you could ever meet. I know all these guys that sit around in a garage and trip balls on whatever hallucinogen they can find and try to find the "meaning" of the latest Tool offering. Then you try to introduce them to music that's not tool and it's "irrelevant" and "meaningless" compared to Maynard's "lyrical genius" or whatever other crap they have to say.
you sound a little bitter... are you saying that listening to Tool desensitizes people?
i thought Tool was supposed to be waking us up from desensitization.
i wouldnt say people who don't get Tool are stupid, they are just different.
i mean, everyone can't be perfect... lol
to me Tool is like pink floyd or led zeppelin, Tool is the ultimate journey into the rhythmic landscapes of Danny Carey & Adam Jones (2 main members).
overall the band belongs to Adam.
if you ask him, he'll tell you the same thing.
Tool fans are not Tool.
if you judge the band by their fans then you are ignorant anyways.
i really hate all those pretentious ones too, i doubt maynard is one of those ones.
Yeah, bitter is the term I'd use. To clarify I don't absolutely hate Tool I just think they get a little more credit than necessary. coincidentally the most arrogant and stunningly rude/dysfunctional people I have met in my life wear Aenemia artwork t-shirts and lecture me on spiritual awakening through maynards "brilliant lyrics" (I like to remind them that they have a song that's a cake recipe). For the record though I really do enjoy a few tracks on 10,000 Days (not really sure why people knock that one as much as they do) and I think the recording quality of the album is one of the finest examples of audio-engineering, in terms of popular music.
I don't know many Tool fans and I find it quite easy to ignore Tool, or the hype around them.
Tool is as underground as many people will ever get, it's many people's limit. I think they function pretty well as a band, and they have cool opening bands, except for Isis, but to each his own taste.
Quote from: PAUL on May 13, 2008, 05:15:37 PM
and the idiotic cavemen who hate everything else.
The same obviously goes for the Melvins -fans. Somehow other Melvins -fans have given me the image of them that they don't like anything else unless it's Melvins -related or some stuff from 70's and 80's. I actually understand that, because most people here are clearly over 30 years old and don't wanna hear anything new.
Quote from: YearZero on May 15, 2008, 07:09:50 AM
because most people here are clearly over 30 years old and don't wanna hear anything new.
no dis but I don't totally agree with this. I'm over thirty. I love to hear something new.
the problem is when you get over 30 your life gets so cluttered up with other things that you don't have the time to prioritize with searching for new music like you did when you were 18 and had not a care in the world. being a member here is about my only hope for some exposure (thanks maar!!!). like anything else its all relative to the person you're refering to. I can see where some 30+ers cop an attitude and say "fuck that! everything sucks but what I liked when I was 20.". thats how you get losers with mullets who are still playing the same motley crue greatest hits cd that they bought in 1992.
in summary I would like to say that I have no idea what I am trying to say. and tool is still weak. thank you.
i completely get what you're trying to say and second it glen.
Yeah, same here. Thanks for typing it out, Glen. I had started, and then I realized 0 wasn't going to get it anyway, because that's why he created that post in the first place.
Ahh yes, the popularity vs. talent debate.
Quote from: glen on May 15, 2008, 07:21:56 AM
Quote from: YearZero on May 15, 2008, 07:09:50 AM
because most people here are clearly over 30 years old and don't wanna hear anything new.
no dis but I don't totally agree with this. I'm over thirty. I love to hear something new.
the problem is when you get over 30 your life gets so cluttered up with other things that you don't have the time to prioritize with searching for new music like you did when you were 18 and had not a care in the world. being a member here is about my only hope for some exposure (thanks maar!!!). like anything else its all relative to the person you're refering to. I can see where some 30+ers cop an attitude and say "fuck that! everything sucks but what I liked when I was 20.". thats how you get losers with mullets who are still playing the same motley crue greatest hits cd that they bought in 1992.
in summary I would like to say that I have no idea what I am trying to say. and tool is still weak. thank you.
Are you trying to say that in 92 you where a motley crue fan?
Quote from: jaymz on May 15, 2008, 10:27:11 AM
Are you trying to say that in 92 you where a motley crue fan?
no. but in 87 I was. is that worth anything?
Quote from: YearZero on May 15, 2008, 07:09:50 AM
Quote from: PAUL on May 13, 2008, 05:15:37 PM
and the idiotic cavemen who hate everything else.
The same obviously goes for the Melvins -fans. Somehow other Melvins -fans have given me the image of them that they don't like anything else unless it's Melvins -related or some stuff from 70's and 80's. I actually understand that, because most people here are clearly over 30 years old and don't wanna hear anything new.
Well, I don't think so. I always get the feeling that Melvins fans, especially on this board, are very open-minded when it
comes to music. Of course there's a lot of stuff that's somehow Melvins related but nevertheless there's a lot more than that.
Quote from: glen on May 15, 2008, 07:21:56 AM
Quote from: YearZero on May 15, 2008, 07:09:50 AM
because most people here are clearly over 30 years old and don't wanna hear anything new.
no dis but I don't totally agree with this. I'm over thirty. I love to hear something new.
the problem is when you get over 30 your life gets so cluttered up with other things that you don't have the time to prioritize with searching for new music like you did when you were 18 and had not a care in the world. being a member here is about my only hope for some exposure (thanks maar!!!). like anything else its all relative to the person you're refering to. I can see where some 30+ers cop an attitude and say "fuck that! everything sucks but what I liked when I was 20.". thats how you get losers with mullets who are still playing the same motley crue greatest hits cd that they bought in 1992.
in summary I would like to say that I have no idea what I am trying to say. and tool is still weak. thank you.
Glen you don't know shit, no offense
My number three mission in life is to convert Glen into a Tool fan.
Quote from: change&suffocation on May 15, 2008, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: glen on May 15, 2008, 07:21:56 AM
Quote from: YearZero on May 15, 2008, 07:09:50 AM
because most people here are clearly over 30 years old and don't wanna hear anything new.
no dis but I don't totally agree with this. I'm over thirty. I love to hear something new.
the problem is when you get over 30 your life gets so cluttered up with other things that you don't have the time to prioritize with searching for new music like you did when you were 18 and had not a care in the world. being a member here is about my only hope for some exposure (thanks maar!!!). like anything else its all relative to the person you're refering to. I can see where some 30+ers cop an attitude and say "fuck that! everything sucks but what I liked when I was 20.". thats how you get losers with mullets who are still playing the same motley crue greatest hits cd that they bought in 1992.
in summary I would like to say that I have no idea what I am trying to say. and tool is still weak. thank you.
Glen you don't know shit, no offense
thats a little harsh, but i'd have to agree. i have no problem at all finding new music. my ipod has never been so overloaded.
There is amazing music out there...
You just have to be pro-active.
A list of some recent stuff worth looking into...
Qui
Black Cobra
The Saviours
Drunk Horse
Citay
Fucking Champs
Pig Destroyer
:-k
Quote from: change&suffocation link=topic=9763.msg170277#msg170277
Glen you don't know shit, no offense
/quote]
I can live with that.
at least I attempted to make it semi-polite :toke:
(as karma slowly dwindles for offending a mod)
I'm over thirty, and have to tell you priorities change when you've got a kid, and a career and bills(or at least they should). I like all kinds of different music. But I find it hard to like a band when I can't respect the people in the band. So I stopped paying attention to all that. If I hear music I like, I go with it, and don't read the articles or worry about if they're selling out on the radio or Mtv. I don't care what the "most awesomest fan ever" says about them, I just listen to the music. It's easy to do when you're over the hill. As far as what kinds of fans a band has...look around you, there's stupid people everywhere. The law of averages says some of them are going to like the same music you like too. Someday kiddies, you'll listen to NPR more than you listen to hipster FM too. Ooooh scary!
OOps I posted this in the wrong thread, and there was a lot of typing, so pretend this is the other Tool topic.
Quote from: change&suffocation on May 16, 2008, 11:30:47 AM
at least I attempted to make it semi-polite :toke:
(as karma slowly dwindles for bashing a mod)
never. I'm a big change& fan. and lumps are an essential part of personality. taking them is what makes me so goddammed special.
hugs and kisses.
and another thing... I like this linesbetweentheread fella, he reminds me of another golden oldie around here:
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/CNR14.jpg)
Quote from: glen on May 16, 2008, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: change&suffocation on May 16, 2008, 11:30:47 AM
at least I attempted to make it semi-polite :toke:
(as karma slowly dwindles for bashing a mod)
never. I'm a big change& fan. and lumps are an essential part of personality. taking them is what makes me so goddammed special.
hugs and kisses.
and another thing... I like this linesbetweentheread fella, he reminds me of another golden oldie around here:
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/gshap/CNR14.jpg)
Quotehe reminds me of another golden oldie around here:
Hey! I'm a man, I'm 30!
(http://a1167.g.akamaitech.net/7/1167/32585/0/content.catalog.video.msn.com/ft/share0/5c5d/0/gundy400.jpg)
Quote from: linesbetweentheread on May 16, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
I'm over thirty, and have to tell you priorities change when you've got a kid, and a career and bills(or at least they should). I like all kinds of different music. But I find it hard to like a band when I can't respect the people in the band.
OOps I posted this in the wrong thread, and there was a lot of typing, so pretend this is the other Tool topic.
It's surprising how cool the people in the melvins actually are. I think it makes me like the band more.
Quote from: linesbetweentheread on May 16, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
I'm over thirty, and have to tell you priorities change when you've got a kid, and a career and bills(or at least they should). I like all kinds of different music. But I find it hard to like a band when I can't respect the people in the band. So I stopped paying attention to all that. If I hear music I like, I go with it, and don't read the articles or worry about if they're selling out on the radio or Mtv. I don't care what the "most awesomest fan ever" says about them, I just listen to the music. It's easy to do when you're over the hill. As far as what kinds of fans a band has...look around you, there's stupid people everywhere. The law of averages says some of them are going to like the same music you like too. Someday kiddies, you'll listen to NPR more than you listen to hipster FM too. Ooooh scary!
OOps I posted this in the wrong thread, and there was a lot of typing, so pretend this is the other Tool topic.
very well put!
Quote from: change&suffocation on May 16, 2008, 03:27:18 PM
Quotehe reminds me of another golden oldie around here:
Hey! I'm a man, I'm 30!
(http://a1167.g.akamaitech.net/7/1167/32585/0/content.catalog.video.msn.com/ft/share0/5c5d/0/gundy400.jpg)
just lovely. :lol:
Without Tool, I don't know if I would have gotten into the Melvins.
Or Bill Hicks, or Mr Show...
I guess I wasn't a fan of them post Aenima, but Lateralus and 10,000 days are ok. I guess. Even The Melvins sound a little samey now a days.
I've been getting into "guilty pleasure" music recently, namely, Toto, Dio, The Outfield... shit like that.
Quote from: linesbetweentheread on May 16, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
I'm over thirty, and have to tell you priorities change when you've got a kid, and a career and bills(or at least they should). I like all kinds of different music. But I find it hard to like a band when I can't respect the people in the band. So I stopped paying attention to all that. If I hear music I like, I go with it, and don't read the articles or worry about if they're selling out on the radio or Mtv. I don't care what the "most awesomest fan ever" says about them, I just listen to the music. It's easy to do when you're over the hill. As far as what kinds of fans a band has...look around you, there's stupid people everywhere. The law of averages says some of them are going to like the same music you like too. Someday kiddies, you'll listen to NPR more than you listen to hipster FM too. Ooooh scary!
OOps I posted this in the wrong thread, and there was a lot of typing, so pretend this is the other Tool topic.
^ this