Does anyone know the back story to this song? It was mentioned in the following article, as an "unrecorded Melvins song - "Rabbit's Revenge" ".
http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-01/music/the-melvin-s-power-disinfectant/ (http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-01/music/the-melvin-s-power-disinfectant/)
I thought this was the unpublished finale in the John Updike series where Harry "Rabbit" Angstrom returns from the grave to exact unholy vengeance upon his high school nemesis, Ronnie Harrison. But a lost melvins song of this name would be something I might actually enjoy.
Miscredited my ass (miscredited isn't even a word)...Sunn O))) just did a cover, and they did it their way.
Here you go...
03 - Sunn O))) - Rabbits' Revenge [Melvins cover] (Part 1 of 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqzwe4S8SgA#)
03 - Sunn O))) - Rabbits' Revenge [Melvins cover] (Part 2 of 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B25bxNl7Vbs#)
Cover or not? Youdeside.
I always figured "Rabbits Revenge" was Sunn's reply to the notion of a "Hung Bunny", hence Melvins getting credited on the track. but what do i know?
around 5:30 of part 1 of the videos axel posted, you can hear a sample from a melvins bootleg greg anderson recorded.
Rabbit's Revenge is an early Melvins track from the Lukin era that they only played live. Joe told me he used to have a recording of it from a radio show they did back in the 80's, but otherwise it seems only Greg Anderson has the live version, or someone else who hasn't come up off a tape.
Goddamnit, this is what happens when I start dealing with my own life and failing marriage instead of writing my Lysol article/book 2 years ago. Motherfucker.
Cool Article!!
Very good read.
QuoteFor the hulking "Hung Bunny," Osborne wanted to play "what the Swans would sound like if they played heavy metal"
Next time I want to hear Sunn 0))) I'll just put on Lysol. Loudly.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-01/music/the-melvin-s-power-disinfectant/ (http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-01/music/the-melvin-s-power-disinfectant/)
Pretty Cool article.
nice find pinky!
great shirt pinky!
That is a great article! Thanks for posting it Pinky!
no problem everyone :D
Quote from: Braykfast on June 01, 2011, 07:03:46 PM
Next time I want to hear Sunn 0))) I'll just put on Lysol. Loudly.
i thought all there stuff was just a tribute to lysol,or more specifically the first few minutes of lysol before the drums come in.
but people keep telling me theres more to them than that. i will buy one more of there albums before i give up.
Quote from: oldernie on June 06, 2011, 03:27:03 PM
i will buy one more of there albums before i give up.
Which ones do you have? Nothing absolutely mind blowing but i enjoy most of their releases in a ambient, heavy background music kind of way. I do think Monoliths & Dimensions was overrated if thats any help.
i got oracle first, then altar, i dont mind that song on altar with that female singer, that was interesting, im not really a fan of boris either so that album didnt do much for me.
on the other hand i really like earth, who were probly an even bigger influence on sunn than the melvins
Quote from: oldernie on June 06, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
i dont mind that song on altar with that female singer, that was interesting
:lol:
That was my least favourite song off there but yeah it is interesting in its difference all the same.
Oracle is absolutely the weakest Sunn album, Altar is not fully representative. 00 Void is their best for pure guitar drone, Black One is awesome for evil ambiance, and I think Monoliths is a great distillation of what they had done up to that point. I need to be in a certain mind set to listen to Sunn, but I think what they do well, and volume does help. I will go see them live every opportunity I can though. I love being enveloped in sound, and they do that like no other, fully encased in sound. I took a friend of mine to see them a few years back and he is generally more of a thrash and hardcore dude and I was worried he would be bored, he really enjoyed it, but he wouldn't sit down and listen to them.
They definitely should be experienced live before writing them off, and, for home listening, as their albums say, Maximum Volume Yields Maximum Results.
They sound great when I'm drunk and self destructive, wanting to fall asleep to oceans of oblivion.
Nice.
I really enjoy Sunn O)) a lot, I just usually need to be on opiates of some kind to really get into it.
You're late by like two weeks. Nice try.
http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=15406.0 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=15406.0)
u r a creep. :-&
private detectives... pffff... good read.. thanks!
don't know if this has been posted.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-01/music/the-melvin-s-power-disinfectant/ (http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-01/music/the-melvin-s-power-disinfectant/)
The Melvins' Power Disinfectant
How their sludgy 1992 album Lysol became the blueprint for the metal underground
In the post-Nirvana moment of 1992, major labels were in a feedback-fucked, Seattle-sniffing feeding frenzy. Sludge-metal surrealists the Melvins were in an especially advantageous position; old buddy Kurt Cobain was championing the band right and left, even telling Spin that he wanted to buy Kirk Hammett a Melvins tee. Frontman Buzz Osborne correctly assumed that a major-label deal was nigh, and Atlantic ultimately took the bait for a three-record run that began with 1993's Houdini. But before that, Osborne says, "We knew we wanted to do a record that would be totally opposite. I didn't want to be perceived as somebody that was going for the gold, the brass ring. I think the same way as I ever did. And here was the record to prove it."
Which brings us to a visual that neatly sums up the '90s alternative-rock bubble: The Melvins, perched across from a table of record executives and proudly playing Lysol
Nice find. That's a great little bit of behind the scenes on that record.
That guy tries WAY to hard to express his article. ( I mean he did his homework at least)
would have been better with just the facts instead of breaking all his sentances up with bone-crushingly mega-wrap chicken bucket slop-punk expressionisms that totally take aways from the actual Substance of the whole point....
A bunch of Huge Pot heads LOVE the record and totally Ripped it off for all it was worth.
The melvins Created an entirely new Genre of music with ONE album!!!
the melvins spent, "5 days...more like 4"....and there's all these bands spending their entire careers on this sound!
I think it's almost a good thing Melvins moved past that album, a lot of bands kind of ruin that sound in my opinion, by trying to be like the melvins and only succeeding in boring the crap out me with a cheap and watered down substitutes that people who haven't heard the Actual Lysol album seem to get huge kicks out of...and It's fucking PASSE! it's Retro, the Friggin Lysol Record is ancient history, and yet STILL Big news apparently, lookit ALL the new Doom-stoner-sludge stuff thats just Everywhere, it's un-believable to me honestly.
The Melvins have probably gotten over all the money that some other band wound up with that is rightfully thiers.
I've spent years saying this to people, and I guess there's no changing it for the better.
don't get me wrong, It looks like the melvins were "on to something" with that concept, I mean, Earth is pretty cool but IT's nowhere NEAR as moving as "with teeth" I mean, Even fucking NIN ripped off that track title for a whole album...I just about Spilled my drink when that thing was being advertised on Much music!!!
I can't even IMAGINE what The melvins feel like about all of it.
first they got ripped off by a bunch of bands
and THEN they got sued.
AND THEN they got Ripped off by a ton of other bands.
the question still, is how do you start off as a band like the melvins and become un-fathomably influencial and just way beyond all there is... without reward, profit and basically none of the public credit!!!
poor melvins, They need a relief fund for all the bullshit that's happened to them.
I think the rock and roll hall of fame can double go-fuck-itself with Jimi Page's double neck guitar.
The "SECRET" blueprint of contemportary metal...PHPHP!!!
What the fuck kind of Romanic bullshit is that?
They put THAT album out in less than a WEEK!!!
What is so Truly Giving about the album, is that It gives you that "hey, I could DO this too" kind of inspiration.
try using 3 minutes of H.A.T. to base your band's talent level around and see how well you hold up to that when all's said and done?
I read an article about how Buzz Showed the guitar player of soundgarden How to Drop D tune a guitar...and blew his mind...
Where does it end with these guys?
Don't pity them. I interviewed Buzz and Dale about Lysol before this article came out for my own deal that never materialized. They don't give a shit about what came after Lysol. They think it's funny Reznor used With Teeth after they went on tour w/ NIN. Considering everything Melvins have borrowed and appropriated I think it can hardly be called ripping off. Melvins did not get sued, Boner got threatened with a lawsuit, that is all. They do think it's bizarre that none of their former friends who are A list have anything to do with them anymore, but they don't feel slighted or ripped off by anyone.
Quote from: Rev. Mike on September 15, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
Don't pity them. I interviewed Buzz and Dale about Lysol before this article came out for my own deal that never materialized. They don't give a shit about what came after Lysol. They think it's funny Reznor used With Teeth after they went on tour w/ NIN. Considering everything Melvins have borrowed and appropriated I think it can hardly be called ripping off. Melvins did not get sued, Boner got threatened with a lawsuit, that is all. They do think it's bizarre that none of their former friends who are A list have anything to do with them anymore, but they don't feel slighted or ripped off by anyone.
Everytime I see you post about Lysol it gives me a glimmer of hope that we might get to see the fruits of your labour one day.
Any hope of that?
:)
There is some hope, but I don't know how much. Not getting the book deal and then the steady decline of my marriage kinda got in the way. This article took the wind out of my sails a little bit too. Now that I am on my own, settled into a place, and only have my kids half time my plan is to start work on this again. We shall see.
yeah, I guess...you can't feel sorry for the heaviest band ever.
OH, before I forget...my buddy brought over an old metal church CD from 1985...self titled.
In the liner notes of all the bands in all the world guess who they give thanks too>
That's right!!!
right there in the liner sleeve....THE MELVINS...I could not believe.
how'd that come to pass? 1985!~
And Yeh Mike, I wanna see some of your mad writing skills too!
you probly did a good job with the interview!
It's some weird omen that I saw that today!
Dumpster i can never fathom whether your insight into the Melvins is either crazed nonsensical rambling, seeing things that aren't there or the work of a genius detective. Deciphering and decoding the Melvins cannon like none of us could ever wish to.
Quote from: )))((( on September 15, 2011, 02:01:21 PM
crazed nonsensical rambling
genius detective
:lol:
Either way, it's win-win.
Quote from: Dumpster D on September 15, 2011, 01:03:58 PM
yeah, I guess...you can't feel sorry for the heaviest band ever.
OH, before I forget...my buddy brought over an old metal church CD from 1985...self titled.
In the liner notes of all the bands in all the world guess who they give thanks too>
That's right!!!
right there in the liner sleeve....THE MELVINS...I could not believe.
how'd that come to pass? 1985!~
Have you read the liner notes to Mangled demos?
Rev, have you thought about self-releasing your Lysol book? Something like kickstarter could be used to generate start-up funds.
hell, do it thru blurb.com !
I have thought about it yes. Gimme another 3 years.
Yeah Rev. sounds like a good read. Hope it sees the light one day. Even so, must've been a kick interviewing the players and stuff, huh? Did you interview more than the band? You know, producers, techs, peers, people influenced by the record?
As for popularity? Respect? Success? I donno, I think they seem to be doing pretty well these days. No? Granted the music biz ain't what it used to be; and granted I live and thrive in a bubble of unpopular music. But they seem to be everywhere these days. Where once reviews were at the least confused, all raised eyebrow, head cocked like a dog; and at the most just out right hostile ... these days reviews, articles have a very different tone. Usually one of complete reverence and outright admiration. Seems lots of bands these days publicly cite them as influence and model. It's like their approaching that "Godfather of ... " tag, ya know? Does it all translate into $$$? No idea. But they're arguably more "popular" now than they were 10-15 yrs. ago. Even their new model of biz ... special edition, small run, high cost releases seems to be working pretty well. Shit sells out in a blink! In years past it was way easier to score online shit right outta the gate rather than on the flip.
Still beyond this seeming upsurg, they ain't no U2 or even Foo Fighters ... So, of course I'd join in the chorus of "Melvins are criminally under rated, under exposed, completely influencial and perpetually ripped off!!"
Though as for With Teeth as Dumpster was speaking? Who knows if Reznor ripped it? Probably. But Buzz probably did too. I mean, who knows if Buzz knew or not (though he's no dummy) but With Teeth is very reminicent of the latin term Vagina Dentata (Pussy With Teeth) a common folk & literary motif/theme throughout many ancient cultures used in cautionary tales against promiscuity and rape. To boot, Vagina Dentata was the name of one of Gerber's (Germs/Darby Crash fame) bands. Again Buzz is no dummy ...
I HAVE Read the mangled demo liner notes, but It's content currently eludes me..that happened a long time ago, and it's filed away somewhere in a sever jam of blocked memories, when It must have been hastily Read by myself under tense and severe circumstances.
I totally forgot about it being there untill you mentioned it, you mean the Alternative tentcacles virus 10" re-release right?
dang, well, for all of us out there, what part am I looking for specifically?
I do want to get to the bottom of this case Chief!
I got some more genius detectiving work ahead of me.
and MIKE!!! carry on with finishing your writings!!! SPILL THE BEANS!!!
Let us know the publishing cost, maybe we can do you a little bit of a fundraiser event?
I got 5 bucks advance if you can hit me up with a small slice of the scripture.
-J
Dumpster, Metal Church was from the same area ... one of them Metal Churchers (Kurt??) befriended Buzz ... it was probably a crush thou, as he turned out to be gay.
FO' REALS? :o
well In that case, I don't want to sound like a queer or nothin' but I think Metal church is pretty Kickass!
(like as if none of the users of this BBS don't have a secret Crush on Buzzo either!!!)
you better not be pulling my leg! :lol:
Quote from: Dumpster D on September 15, 2011, 11:02:18 PM
I don't want to sound like a queer or nothin' ...
Too late you crazy sword swallower!
Quote from: Dumpster D on September 15, 2011, 11:02:18 PM
you better not be pulling my leg! :lol:
Yeah, I'm sure you want me to pull something else, right? Perhaps if you don't want to sound so "queer or nothin' ..." You shouldn't employe such stock fag innuendo or admit to liking Metal Church ... so transparent. I mean just ask me on a date ... I'll say no ... I'm not gay ... plus your nuts ... but still ya know, fly your freak flag proud man.
Ha Ha Ha ... I kid Dumpster, I kid. The gay part is true ... the crush part ... pure conjecture on my part.
But really, Metal Church? I saw those dudes open for the Crue back in '85.
I think you might have mis-read old chum.
I Think metal church Is Thrashy!
Like metallica totally wants this band, Hard!
and likewise to Mega-deaf.
(lately I've been listening to a lot of Exciter and for some reason Venom and cryptic slaughter too.)
That is to say that I think that Metal Church sounds Awesome.
Quote from: Dumpster D on September 16, 2011, 12:35:05 AM
I think you might have mis-read old chum.
I Think metal church Is Thrashy!
Like metallica totally wants this band, Hard!
and likewise to Mega-deaf.
(lately I've been listening to a lot of Exciter and for some reason Venom and cryptic slaughter too.)
That is to say that I think that Metal Church sounds Awesome.
Yeah, I haven't actually heard Metal Church in probably 25yrs. But I seem to remember they seemed like a more NWOBH band that bit onto Thrash 'cause it was the thing to do.
Though I have listened to Cryptic Slaughter pretty consistantly for 20 some odd years ... Venom too.
In a thrash mood check out Sacrifice's 1st record "Torment In The Fire" great shit! Or Fratricide ... they never really released much ... but the deleted release that was supposed to be out on Pusmort back in '86 (a split 12" with Hollands' Neuroot) is definatly floating around the net ... I upped my Test Press up like 10 yrs. ago ... it even got "issued" by some little record company a couple yrs. back.