Hi!
I had the pleasure of interviewing Dale a few weeks ago whilst on tour in the U.K.
Thought some of you might be into reading it: sightsoundrhythm.tumblr.com
Thanks!
good stuff. shared on Melvins Facebook Group.
http://sightsoundrhythm.tumblr.com/post/180889612896/dale-crover?fbclid=IwAR30i2LNvRFaYq05gAcUXFEVaDsmqgWS2yWaXllt4Gs--YitZoebyFAB7cA (http://sightsoundrhythm.tumblr.com/post/180889612896/dale-crover?fbclid=IwAR30i2LNvRFaYq05gAcUXFEVaDsmqgWS2yWaXllt4Gs--YitZoebyFAB7cA)
Massively appreciated! Thanks for sharing.
great interview, thanks
Quote from: SIGHT/SOUND/RHYTHM on December 08, 2018, 09:48:13 AM
Hi!
I had the pleasure of interviewing Dale a few weeks ago whilst on tour in the U.K.
Thought some of you might be into reading it: sightsoundrhythm.tumblr.com
Thanks!
Strong work!!!
QuoteDave had even drawn up some plans for building one large drum set that we would both play
never heard that before. you broke some news.
well done. i really enjoyed the whole interview.
I wonder what really happened to end Crystal Fairy...I've heard all the Omar stuff like he played with At the Drive In instead...but why didn't they just pick it back up?
Quote from: moose on December 12, 2018, 09:30:56 PM
..but why didn't they just pick it back up?
I'm guessing that Buzz and co. have just moved on. Something caused the tour to be cancelled, and that something is probably going to prevent them from touring (as crystal fairy) any time in the near future.
Thanks for the interview, that three set tour was unbelievable.
Buzz wanted to practice for the tour and Omar refused, "I don't need to practice! I'm a professional musician for Fucks sake. Look at my extensive out put of music!"
I made the quote up, but the interviews at the time of the tour cancellation suggested it. Also dealing with a married couple must have been challenging.
http://ipecac.com/artists/omar_rodriguez-lopez
After Omar & Teri stood up the Melvins guys over that tour I noticed Ipecac haven't put out anything from them since either.
Quote from: Bigval on December 13, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
After Omar & Teri stood up the Melvins guys over that tour I noticed Ipecac haven't put out anything from them since either.
We heard Omar refused to rehearse the material. not even once. the album was made on an assembly line, btw. they never even played in the same room.
Quote from: vince furnier on December 13, 2018, 07:22:21 AM
We heard Omar refused to rehearse the material. not even once...
:facepalm:
It's just maddening, such an awesome album which would have killed live.
Yeah that's a great album. I'm guessing the ATDI reunion tour money was better too. On a personal note I was supposed to see At the Drive In live in Chicago last year but then they cancelled the show because they were booked to play Riotfest later in the year when I was on vacation so both At the Drive In and Riotfest can fuck right off :lol:
Quote from: GrimReaper on December 13, 2018, 12:23:54 AM
Buzz wanted to practice for the tour and Omar refused
I know im no musician myself, but i often wonder why bands do rehearse on every tour. I mean we've all seen Melvins rehearsing before - it never sounds any different. Same goes for any band that stick at it - they already have it down. It was fresh material too, they don't need to bother.
Quote from: GrimReaper on December 13, 2018, 12:23:54 AM
dealing with a married couple must have been challenging.
Probably. They could have been Sonic Youth 2.0!!!
Quote from: Bigval on December 13, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
I noticed Ipecac haven't put out anything from them since either.
I thought the latest Le Butchettes was on Ipecac?
Quote from: vince furnier on December 13, 2018, 07:22:21 AM
the album was made on an assembly line, btw. they never even played in the same room.
Having read all the interviews, it did seem it was basically Buzz, Dale and Teri who did the album and mostly worked on the songs. While Omar recorded his bass parts later. So yes, not really a full band effort in some regards.
Quote from: moose on December 12, 2018, 09:30:56 PM
I wonder what really happened to end Crystal Fairy...I've heard all the Omar stuff like he played with At the Drive In instead...but why didn't they just pick it back up?
I have no inside info at all, but my guess is Buzz asked Omar if he could commit to Buzz/Crystal Fairy plans, and Omar said yes. Omar then flaked, which really screwed over Buzz as, maybe unlike Omar, he needs to gig to make money for the year. So, Buzz saw Omar basically not caring about something that Buzz was putting 100% into and agreed to do (Dale even said they were going to pause the melvins for CF!) and that that rightfully so really angered Buzz. Also, I think Buzz is definitely the kind of guy that follows through on his word, and Omar's flakiness really made him mad, as well.
Honestly, I liked Crystal Fairy a lot, but I sort of thought Omar made it "too busy" sounding. I sort of wish it was just Melvins and teri, which from the live show, was definitely awesome. But, in the long run, for me personally, it doesn't really matter- as long as I get Melvins in some form, I probably get the same amount of "enjoyment" from it, no matter the form it takes.
It's funny because at the time the album was announced and we started hear the odd song preview, i remember reading from fans on The Comatorium forum (a place for all things ATD-I, Mars Volta and Omar) that this project wouldn't have legs. That it would soon sink down and be forgotten among Omar million other projects and records. At the time i thought this was ridiculous and fully expected Crystal Fairy to be quite a stable, long running thing. Lots of shows and more records in the future. Seems i was very much mistaken. Same happened to me with Shrinebuilder. I had high hopes that soon fizzled out.
Quote from: ))))(((( on December 13, 2018, 02:49:59 PM
It's funny because at the time the album was announced and we started hear the odd song preview, i remember reading from fans on The Comatorium forum (a place for all things ATD-I, Mars Volta and Omar) that this project wouldn't have legs. That it would soon sink down and be forgotten among Omar million other projects and records. At the time i thought this was ridiculous and fully expected Crystal Fairy to be quite a stable, long running thing. Lots of shows and more records in the future. Seems i was very much mistaken. Same happened to me with Shrinebuilder. I had high hopes that soon fizzled out.
Shrinebuilder had such promise. People weren't thrilled with the album, but I actually loved it. Also, the live show was amazing. I saw it in san jose and it was incredible.
Thanks for the good interview. The part that stuck out to me the most was Dale needing to wear hearing aids at home around the kids.
I was also interested to learn just when Dale had his shoulder injury. Touring with Jello, so probably 2005 or so. He mentioned the injury briefly in a podcast interview a year or two ago but didn't say when it happened.
Quote from: Bigval on December 13, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
After Omar & Teri stood up the Melvins guys over that tour I noticed Ipecac haven't put out anything from them since either.
I doubt Ipecac is that petty or that Buzz/Dale would influence the label to disassociate w/ them. Teri probably tried another label under the guidance of Omar. Ipecac isn't run like a mafia, and they don't really "sign" anyone. Ipecac has basically one-album deals, where bands are free to go to other labels and come back later if they like. Dub Trio & Dalek are two examples of that.
I have to admit a lot of bands I like and/or discover on Ipecac I don't follow as much when they jump to another label. Has anyone heard the new Le Butcherettes btw, and how is it?
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 13, 2018, 06:23:21 PM
. Has anyone heard the new Le Butcherettes btw, and how is it?
Not released yet afaik, but here's one song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEV_xEQ4tZw
That must be pretty shitty for Teri, holding Melvins in such high esteem, and then her husband fucks it up. Who knows though...
Rather humorously, even in the band photos Omar doesn't look too bothered about it!
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/21773/unnamed_1486938776_crop_550x394.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NDpkOqmSL._SY355_.jpg)
(http://www.themelvins.net/wiki/images/9/99/CrystalFairy_instudio.jpg)
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 13, 2018, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 13, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
After Omar & Teri stood up the Melvins guys over that tour I noticed Ipecac haven't put out anything from them since either.
I doubt Ipecac is that petty or that Buzz/Dale would influence the label to disassociate w/ them.
When Rutmanis was kicked out of the Melvins he was then kicked out of Tomahawk even though they didn't do anything again until a few years later. Patton holds Buzz in very high regard and I have no doubt after Omar & Teri screwed over Buzz & Dale that that's why the conveyor belt of Omar releases on Ipecac came to a grinding halt.
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on December 13, 2018, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 13, 2018, 06:23:21 PM
. Has anyone heard the new Le Butcherettes btw, and how is it?
Not released yet afaik, but here's one song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEV_xEQ4tZw
Looks like a February release date. Here's a bunch of bundles: https://merchnow.com/catalogs/le-butcherettes
Quote from: Bigval on December 14, 2018, 01:33:50 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 13, 2018, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: Bigval on December 13, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
After Omar & Teri stood up the Melvins guys over that tour I noticed Ipecac haven't put out anything from them since either.
I doubt Ipecac is that petty or that Buzz/Dale would influence the label to disassociate w/ them.
When Rutmanis was kicked out of the Melvins he was then kicked out of Tomahawk even though they didn't do anything again until a few years later. Patton holds Buzz in very high regard and I have no doubt after Omar & Teri screwed over Buzz & Dale that that's why the conveyor belt of Omar releases on Ipecac came to a grinding halt.
It's common knowledge Kevin got the boot from Melvins cuz his drinkin' & druggin' was out of control during the POTRE tour, fall '04. So I'm sure Patton wouldn't have wanted to put up with that either. I dont' recall him ever calling out Kev, or saying he's out of T-hawk. As I remember T-hawk didn't hardly play shows once Mit Gas touring was done.
By the time Anonymous came out in '07, they were basically a studio band, all living in different cities. At that point I'd guess Kevin was onto other things, & they just didn't bother to call him. Then once Oddfellows was being made, & Dunn being back & forth w/ Fantomas & Melvins Lite, it wasn't a surprise that he took over bass duties when touring resumed - though not much of a tour, with the FNM reunion looming in bigger venues.
I haven't kept up on much of Patton's soundtrack/film score albums of late or much else new on Ipecac in the last 5 yrs. I seriously thought someone at Ipecac had either lost their mind or was asleep on the job when it was announced that Omar would be releasing a dozen plus albums on the label. But then again, they were just straight digital downloads - no real labor or manufacturing involved.
Last I read Le Butcherettes is signed to Rise Records. The new stuff I've heard studio wise sounds a bit overproduced but live it absolutely scorches. As far as Crystal Fairy and Shrinebuilder goes while both were one-and-done bands at least Shrinebuilder got to doing about fifty live shows and had a handful of songs lined up for a second album before it fell apart (I'd guess largely between Wino and Cisneros based on interviews with Wino I'd read). Crystal Fairy never even got that far off the ground.
On a more positive note this interview is utterly fantastic.
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on December 13, 2018, 04:06:31 PM
Thanks for the good interview. The part that stuck out to me the most was Dale needing to wear hearing aids at home around the kids.
I was also interested to learn just when Dale had his shoulder injury. Touring with Jello, so probably 2005 or so. He mentioned the injury briefly in a podcast interview a year or two ago but didn't say when it happened.
yeah, that part was interesting. didn't know he had that problem
I can't believe they don't wear ear plugs. #-o
Love this interview! Specifically the 1996 tour of the UK:
Dale: I remember that tour. The Seattle thing was kind of over by that point and I remember our booking agent trying to talk us out of doing the whole tour in the U.K. He was saying, 'Look, it's going to be bad. London will be fine, but you just shouldn't do it'. We really wanted to do it though... but, on the whole, it was really under-attended.
(https://i.ibb.co/FsSLkT6/1996-tour.png)
Second time I saw Melvins was in Coventry in 1996. It wasn't at the University as the poster suggests, but at a huge nightclub venue called The Planet. They played to about 40 people. No one could understand a) why they played Coventry in the first place and, b) why so few people showed up. Whatever, I have fond memories of that show, Buzz playing bass and Mark guitar during the first set. We kinda hoped Coventry was on the list because of Buzz's love for World War II - Coventry was mostly destroyed by the Luftwaffe in 1940 and we noticed that Dresden (which was mostly destroyed by the RAF in 1945) was on the itinerary, too, about three weeks later. Coventry and Dresden were Twinned in 1956. There was a connection............
Quote from: jules on December 19, 2018, 02:38:57 PM. We kinda hoped Coventry was on the list because of Buzz's love for World War II - Coventry was mostly destroyed by the Luftwaffe in 1940 and we noticed that Dresden (which was mostly destroyed by the RAF in 1945) was on the itinerary, too, about three weeks later. Coventry and Dresden were Twinned in 1956. There was a connection............
So are you saying the Melvins are not only louder than Soundgarden, they're also louder than bombs? :D
Quote from: meezer on December 19, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
Quote from: jules on December 19, 2018, 02:38:57 PM. We kinda hoped Coventry was on the list because of Buzz's love for World War II - Coventry was mostly destroyed by the Luftwaffe in 1940 and we noticed that Dresden (which was mostly destroyed by the RAF in 1945) was on the itinerary, too, about three weeks later. Coventry and Dresden were Twinned in 1956. There was a connection............
So are you saying the Melvins are not only louder than Soundgarden, they're also louder than bombs? :D
Thats why I love those guys, Man oh man, I'd love to talk about WWII with those guys someday. that would be awesome.
I want to know what they think about the invasion of Russia by the Nazis.
That tour flyer is pretty interesting! When I bought Stag from Plastic Factory in Birmingham back in 1996, it came sealed with a copy of Interstellar Overdrive inside. I just thought the record shop had had a few 10"s they couldn't sell and sealed them into Stag to get rid of them. Now I see some Stag LPs came with a free Interstellar Overdrive! 8)
While looking to fill in some dates in Europe from that tour, I came across this. It looks like a PLAQUE on a wall in Dresden, just in case you need reminding for ever that Melvins played there.
(https://i.ibb.co/5GZLBHj/112896-poster.jpg)
I Just watched a good documentary about the 100th Bomb Group who flew in part, the Dresden mission. Very interesting history.
Maybe the Melvins read Slaughterhouse five?
Civilians thought that the bombing was incorrect, but I guess they wanted to completely break morale, it was near the very end of the war when it happened.
Same I learned how sometimes German fighter pilots would intentionally ram B-17s out of sheer frustration, ran out of ammo, guns jammed...They'd aim themselves into a Bomber and Bail out...It's like the original Rage quit. :x
The Melvins deliberately bombed in dresden. :buzz: