https://ipecac-music.myshopify.com/
https://ipecac.tmstor.es/
If you're not based in the U.S., it seems like there's a few sites you can buy from (to avoid import taxes/etc.)
Thanks bHm.
Damn that ASA lim Ed went p fast..never had a chance but whatevs
If you were interested in the editions of 500, don't panic, it's possible the melvins blixt page will put more up for sale in the future.
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on April 28, 2021, 05:14:58 PM
If you were interested in the editions of 500, don't panic, it's possible the melvins blixt page will put more up for sale in the future.
Quote from: jules on April 28, 2021, 01:31:25 PM
Thanks bHm.
I'm holdling out for the Basses Loaded and Hold It In reissues
Quote from: sadcorps on April 28, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
I'm holdling out for the Basses Loaded and Hold It In reissues
Seriously? You can find those on vinyl pretty much anywhere, though the LP tracklisting is shorter and doesn't quite match the CD.
This probably deserves it's own thread, but where are the proper vinyl releases for?:
26 Songs
Houdini Live '05
Chicken Switch(not that anyone really needs this on vinyl)
Everybody Loves Sausages
Tres Cabrones
Sugar Daddy Live (as a single LP or double set, I know of the AmRep individual singles)
My first pressing NWB is fine, no need to buy again. I will get aSA(aqua-blue double vinyl :shock:), and BSM. Never have had those on wax.
Definitely would want (a)SA on vinyl as it's one of my favorites. Nude With Boots on a vinyl pressing where the packaging isn't warping the vinyl to shit would be nice too.
The BB Trilogy!!! I just want to know why (A)SA is a double vinyl release. Forgive this totally foolish question, but is it because it's cut at 45rpm and this takes up more surface space?
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on April 28, 2021, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on April 28, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
I'm holdling out for the Basses Loaded and Hold It In reissues
Seriously? You can find those on vinyl pretty much anywhere, though the LP tracklisting is shorter and doesn't quite match the CD.
This probably deserves it's own thread, but where are the proper vinyl releases for?:
26 Songs
Houdini Live '05
Chicken Switch(not that anyone really needs this on vinyl)
Everybody Loves Sausages
Tres Cabrones
Sugar Daddy Live (as a single LP or double set, I know of the AmRep individual singles)
My first pressing NWB is fine, no need to buy again. I will get aSA(aqua-blue double vinyl :shock:), and BSM. Never have had those on wax.
26 Songs definitely needs a vinyl reissue. I grabbed the NWB and BSM limited release. ASA I passed on. I already have the the 4 lp set from Hydra Head
Shit: I missed all the special colour variants :shock:
Meh. I'd be a lot more excited if they released an album of equivalent creative level as these records.
Quote from: dead mike on April 29, 2021, 10:07:08 AM
I'd be a lot more excited if they released an album of equivalent creative level as these records.
I do long for another record like (A)SA - something that is just great song, after great song. A solid record from the start to the finish.
Quote from: dead mike on April 29, 2021, 10:07:08 AM
Meh. I'd be a lot more excited if they released an album of equivalent creative level as these records.
ah, good point
Quote from: sadcorps on April 28, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
I'm holdling out for the Basses Loaded and Hold It In reissues
I got my first press Basses loaded lp from AMAZON
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 28, 2021, 09:12:54 PM
The BB Trilogy!!! I just want to know why (A)SA is a double vinyl release. Forgive this totally foolish question, but is it because it's cut at 45rpm and this takes up more surface space?
I'm not a fan of stretching out 40-45 min albums to double vinyl. I would think it's gotta be 45rpm. Plus it jacks the retail price up. Pinkus Abort Tech for instance, stretched to a double 10", and I've never seen it for under $30.
I was checking out Primus vinyl in a brick/mortar store the other day, and I saw that Rhinoplasty is a double LP. Why? :o
I am going to hold out for the Walk With Love & Death and Working With God vinyl reissues.
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on May 01, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
These people all need to be locked up in the nut house. Switching from 33 to 45 is a pain in the ass with many turntables. Especially mine.
Quote from: dead mike on May 01, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on May 01, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
Switching from 33 to 45 is a pain in the ass with many turntables. Especially mine.
:lol:
Do you have to ford a moat of hungry piranhas to get to your spindle, or something?
was going to snag a bsm lp but everything now sold out, dam...although im sure my local shop will have
Quote from: sadcorps on April 29, 2021, 09:07:46 PM
I am going to hold out for the Walk With Love & Death and Working With God vinyl reissues.
I see copies at Walk With Love and Death on vinyl at most record stores I go to. Imagine not many people were interested in spending 40 bucks on a fancy 2LP.
And I am fine with Senile Animal as a 45RPM double LP as that is going to sound MASSIVE. Nude With Boots I wouldn't mind owning and you can hold that Bride Screamed Murder.
If any records really need a proper 2LP treatment it's for sure Tres Cabrones, Everybody Loves Sausages, Hold It In and Basses Loaded. I'd for sure buy a proper vinyl of Tres Cabrones instead of having the album spread out over six releases. Hold It In and Basses Loaded got done dirty because Ipecac wanted to be cheapskates.
In a future state where I actually have a sound system with a decent turntable at the ready and a room where I won't bother anyone, these are the recent Melvins records I'd want to hear crackling
1. Love
2. Hold It In
3. Pinkus Abortion Technician
4. Sabbath
I have all but number two on vinyl already.
Everything else I might as well play the CD. If I buy vinyl it would be for the art or to support the cause.
(No specific criteria on why I chose these, but I wholeheartedly stand by it.)
Quote from: laptop sorcery on May 04, 2021, 02:54:17 AM
was going to snag a bsm lp but everything now sold out, dam...although im sure my local shop will have
i missed the colored vinyl and ordered all 3 on Amazon. same as last time. free shipping with prime at least! :buzz:
Quote from: vince furnier on May 05, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: laptop sorcery on May 04, 2021, 02:54:17 AM
was going to snag a bsm lp but everything now sold out, dam...although im sure my local shop will have
i missed the colored vinyl and ordered all 3 on Amazon. same as last time. free shipping with prime at least! :buzz:
Thanks for the tip! Just got all 3 on Amazon and I must have had some leftover gift cards loaded or something because I didn't pay a cent.
Quote from: GiveMe45 on May 06, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on May 05, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: laptop sorcery on May 04, 2021, 02:54:17 AM
was going to snag a bsm lp but everything now sold out, dam...although im sure my local shop will have
i missed the colored vinyl and ordered all 3 on Amazon. same as last time. free shipping with prime at least! :buzz:
Thanks for the tip! Just got all 3 on Amazon and I must have had some leftover gift cards loaded or something because I didn't pay a cent.
Amazon might charge you once they've been dispatched. I don't think they charge upfront for pre-orders.
Quote from: jules on May 06, 2021, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on May 06, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on May 05, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: laptop sorcery on May 04, 2021, 02:54:17 AM
was going to snag a bsm lp but everything now sold out, dam...although im sure my local shop will have
i missed the colored vinyl and ordered all 3 on Amazon. same as last time. free shipping with prime at least! :buzz:
Thanks for the tip! Just got all 3 on Amazon and I must have had some leftover gift cards loaded or something because I didn't pay a cent.
Amazon might charge you once they've been dispatched. I don't think they charge upfront for pre-orders.
No, I double checked my account. Definitely gift cards that I forgot about. That's the bonus of being a lazy Amazon shopper.
Quote from: GiveMe45 on May 06, 2021, 07:47:19 PM
Quote from: jules on May 06, 2021, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: GiveMe45 on May 06, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: vince furnier on May 05, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: laptop sorcery on May 04, 2021, 02:54:17 AM
was going to snag a bsm lp but everything now sold out, dam...although im sure my local shop will have
i missed the colored vinyl and ordered all 3 on Amazon. same as last time. free shipping with prime at least! :buzz:
Thanks for the tip! Just got all 3 on Amazon and I must have had some leftover gift cards loaded or something because I didn't pay a cent.
Amazon might charge you once they've been dispatched. I don't think they charge upfront for pre-orders.
No, I double checked my account. Definitely gift cards that I forgot about. That's the bonus of being a lazy Amazon shopper.
Very nice! :cheers:
Looks like the plain red NWB and BSM are available again (or still) at Ipecac Europe.
https://ipecac.tmstor.es/
Quote from: jules on May 01, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: dead mike on May 01, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on May 01, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
Switching from 33 to 45 is a pain in the ass with many turntables. Especially mine.
:lol:
Do you have to ford a moat of hungry piranhas to get to your spindle, or something?
It's more I'm Forrest Gump disassebling and re-assembling an M-16 made of papier mache. First of all, I have a cork slip mat that sticks fast to the pin. If I don't carefully lift it up, it will crack. Then I have to remove the metal platter -- again,
carefully -- then I have to
carefully unfasten the belt and move it onto the other pulley. Finally, I have to
carefully put everything back in its place.
Sure, I
could have bought the turntable that changes the speed with the flip of a switch, but I wanted the cool audiophile kids to like me.
I got an email today from Ipecac saying my apple red Nude With Boots and The Bride Screamed Murder are on their way! :shock:
You know... CDs play at a standard speed and can hold 80 minutes of high fidelity music. 8)
Quote from: dead mike on May 14, 2021, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: jules on May 01, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: dead mike on May 01, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on May 01, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
Switching from 33 to 45 is a pain in the ass with many turntables. Especially mine.
:lol:
Do you have to ford a moat of hungry piranhas to get to your spindle, or something?
It's more I'm Forrest Gump disassebling and re-assembling an M-16 made of papier mache. First of all, I have a cork slip mat that sticks fast to the pin. If I don't carefully lift it up, it will crack. Then I have to remove the metal platter -- again, carefully -- then I have to carefully unfasten the belt and move it onto the other pulley. Finally, I have to carefully put everything back in its place.
Sure, I could have bought the turntable that changes the speed with the flip of a switch, but I wanted the cool audiophile kids to like me.
That really sounds complicated as fuck, mine has a switch to change the speed. I would like to see your turntable, could you take a picture please?
Quote from: Stonergrunge on June 21, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: dead mike on May 14, 2021, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: jules on May 01, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: dead mike on May 01, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on May 01, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
Switching from 33 to 45 is a pain in the ass with many turntables. Especially mine.
:lol:
Do you have to ford a moat of hungry piranhas to get to your spindle, or something?
It's more I'm Forrest Gump disassebling and re-assembling an M-16 made of papier mache. First of all, I have a cork slip mat that sticks fast to the pin. If I don't carefully lift it up, it will crack. Then I have to remove the metal platter -- again, carefully -- then I have to carefully unfasten the belt and move it onto the other pulley. Finally, I have to carefully put everything back in its place.
Sure, I could have bought the turntable that changes the speed with the flip of a switch, but I wanted the cool audiophile kids to like me.
That really sounds complicated as fuck, mine has a switch to change the speed. I would like to see your turntable, could you take a picture please?
It might look like this as he changes the speed:
(https://i.ibb.co/c3tBbxn/Iuu.png)
I have one of those turntables as well. At first I thought it was fun. Now I'm lazy and all of my 45s just sound really slow
:lol: :lol:
For most of these turntables you can buy an external power supply. These small boxes usually also have a switch 33/45 that steers the motor directly without switching the belt on the pulley. I bought one for my rega player. I think it was 200 to 300.
Someone posted on fb that civilized worm is on the track list but not on the record, anyone here can confirm ?
Quote from: dirtmerchant on June 23, 2021, 06:28:43 PM
Someone posted on fb that civilized worm is on the track list but not on the record, anyone here can confirm ?
Whaaaaaa???
Quote from: dirtmerchant on June 23, 2021, 06:28:43 PM
Someone posted on fb that civilized worm is on the track list but not on the record, anyone here can confirm ?
ahah that would be crazy.. i'm super happy with my original cd btw
Civilized Worm isn't on the vinyl... Damn. Someone goofed. They'll just say that makes it even more collectible 😆
Quote from: runk the punk on June 24, 2021, 09:02:25 AM
Civilized Worm isn't on the vinyl... Damn. Someone goofed. They'll just say that makes it even more collectible 😆
Yikes.
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 24, 2021, 09:15:03 AM
Quote from: runk the punk on June 24, 2021, 09:02:25 AM
Civilized Worm isn't on the vinyl... Damn. Someone goofed. They'll just say that makes it even more collectible 😆
Yikes.
....and someone has mentioned that A Vast Filthy Prison is on both Side A and Side D.....
Ipecac: Making people sick since 1999!!
I did think 'Civilized Worm' being missing could have been possibly intentional for some reason, but to put the same song on both sides sounds like a clear fuck up all round to me!
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 24, 2021, 09:59:28 AM
Ipecac: Making people sick since 1999!!
I did think 'Civilized Worm' being missing could have been possibly intentional for some reason, but to put the same song on both sides sounds like a clear fuck up all round to me!
That sucks. Thats the song that heralded in the Big Melvins line up!
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.M_P-z4oyvKT7rl4O2knrcgHaHG?w=160&h=180&c=7&o=5&dpr=1.51&pid=1.7)
Quote from: jules on June 24, 2021, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 24, 2021, 09:15:03 AM
Quote from: runk the punk on June 24, 2021, 09:02:25 AM
Civilized Worm isn't on the vinyl... Damn. Someone goofed. They'll just say that makes it even more collectible 😆
Yikes.
....and someone has mentioned that A Vast Filthy Prison is on both Side A and Side D.....
:lol:
What if it's a Double Groove vinyl?!?!
When I saw the Big melvins Lineup back in 2007 in Victoriaville. There was no opening act. about two thirds into the set they played Let it all be Twice in a row, twice in a row back to back to back to back, then they finished the set playing Okie from Muskogee two times as well then proceeded to sing an even stranger ironic acapella version of it as a coup de gras...Singing in a bizarre and somewhat out of tune and slow and melvins style weird weird and somewhat avant garde almost mocking the audience. Hard to remember but Dale and Cody might have stood up on their drum stools as well. This went on for a little while.
I'll always remember that Buzz's guitar playing was blowing my mind at one point, they played so damn tight. They were really 'on' that night.
The best thing was they had a Francophone announce them to the stage by name and he said "Dale Grover" :lol:
That, and they opened the set with loud noise, and the drummers took to the stage from either side with their T-shirts over their faces and their arms drooping down and swinging, their backs hunched over like two Goons. It was so badass.
8) 8) 8)
Almost forgot to mention, They DIDN'T play Civilized worm that night either.
When I asked Buzz, he just said they didn't want to get tired of playing it.
I don't want to get tired of hearing it though
Take a cue from Rephlex and the original fuckup of some analord shipments and sent the few folks rare as all hell test pressings of the never released Analogue Bubblebath 5 EP in the makeup shipments. They ought to press some cassettes of Civilized Worm with an unreleased track on the b-side.
Ipecac won't do shit about it. I keep seeing people post on fb they have sent messages but not heard back yet. Haha. I predict they're gonna say fuck off. Do people expect them to take all those records back? That ain't happening. I can't imagine this was something done on purpose, having a song on there twice gives it away that it was a mistake. I say that, but..... they did put "i fuck around" first on the new album and buzz just thinks it's hilarious, and if you don't think so, then you just don't get humor 😐
Can Anyone comment on how the reissues sound?
That's utterly disheartening to read as Senile Animal is the one I actually wanted to get on vinyl the most. Now I'm kinda turned off on the idea of it.
wonder what Buzz would say about this
Buzz would say he doesn't own a turntable
Or Buzz would say that a fool and their money are soon parted.
Them frisbees be flying!
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on June 25, 2021, 06:28:50 AM
Buzz would say he doesn't own a turntable
I can totally see him saying that. I would guess that most people who buy these on vinyl (and most vinyl purchasers out there) don't really intend on playing them anyway. It's just a collectors thing so i doubt it matters too much that a song is missing or such.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, goodness. This is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
Quote from: vince furnier on June 24, 2021, 11:11:35 AM
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.M_P-z4oyvKT7rl4O2knrcgHaHG?w=160&h=180&c=7&o=5&dpr=1.51&pid=1.7)
Nailed it.
Quote from: Stonergrunge on June 21, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: dead mike on May 14, 2021, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: jules on May 01, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: dead mike on May 01, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on May 01, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
45 RPM is preferred by some as it has a higher sampling rate than 33 rpm. I have not done a side by side comparison yet
Switching from 33 to 45 is a pain in the ass with many turntables. Especially mine.
:lol:
Do you have to ford a moat of hungry piranhas to get to your spindle, or something?
It's more I'm Forrest Gump disassebling and re-assembling an M-16 made of papier mache. First of all, I have a cork slip mat that sticks fast to the pin. If I don't carefully lift it up, it will crack. Then I have to remove the metal platter -- again, carefully -- then I have to carefully unfasten the belt and move it onto the other pulley. Finally, I have to carefully put everything back in its place.
Sure, I could have bought the turntable that changes the speed with the flip of a switch, but I wanted the cool audiophile kids to like me.
That really sounds complicated as fuck, mine has a switch to change the speed. I would like to see your turntable, could you take a picture please?
It's this one (https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/debut-carbon-dc/).
:?
Quote from: dead mike on June 25, 2021, 11:55:47 AM
It's this one (https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/debut-carbon-dc/).
Whoa. That's a beautiful turntable. I've just sold mine (bought new in around 1981) and will be looking for something like this to replace it. Reading the blurb, I see it increases stiffness, too, which has to be a bonus.
On my copy of NWB both labels are labeled as "B". Anyone else's like this?
How hilarious would it be if both sides are actually pressed with the b side songs. Everyone would have only half the album.
Quote from: Tobias on June 25, 2021, 01:30:20 PM
On my copy of NWB both labels are labeled as "B". Anyone else's like this?
nope
I got the cheaper apple red one if that helps.
On Discogs reviews have it ipecac is aware and will replace the records (in December 🤦♂️). It appears to be the first 1000 pressed and includes the limited blue/splatter. Someone there says it also seems to be Amazon UK shipments, not sure on this though. I have blue asa coming from jb here in aus with red nwb and bsm also. If they're fucked up, I'll let you know.
Sea blue, ordered from Amazon UK, no worm.
Ipecac should step up and just send everyone the correct record. It's their fuck up. Let us keep the 'collectors item'
I ordered all 3 at the same time on Amazon. On Monday their status all changed to 'Arriving Friday'. Yesterday their status all changed to 'Arriving Friday by 8pm'. Bride left Newark, NJ last night at 10:43pm and made its way through Louisville,KY and Spokane, WA before arriving today at 2pm. Senile and Boots 'arrived at carrier facility' in Fort Worth, TX at 4:30pm yesterday but didn't leave until 9am this morning. Last update is that it arrived in Louisville at 1:45pm and it still says arriving by 8pm tonight......
Quote from: jules on June 25, 2021, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on June 25, 2021, 12:13:27 PM
:?
I wonder what test pressings are for?
Just got my 3 limited versions this morning. Bummer about the mispress, but hey, at least they're not dished this time! Labels on NWB correct. All three look wonderful...great to see Mackie art in the preferred footlong format.
Quote from: buddy holiday on June 21, 2021, 03:36:11 PM
For most of these turntables you can buy an external power supply. These small boxes usually also have a switch 33/45 that steers the motor directly without switching the belt on the pulley. I bought one for my rega player. I think it was 200 to 300.
Yes.. One of these. Great investment because it is a total pain to switch speeds on a belt drive. And you end up stretching the belt out over time too. Until I got this I rarely played any of my 45rpm records too because of that.
https://www.rega.co.uk/accessories/neo-ttpsu
I got that one for my Rega turntable also. I have the Planar 3.
https://www.rega.co.uk/products/planar-3
It's a beauty. I love it's simplistic elegance and it has one of the best tonearms around for it's price point.
Quote from: jules on June 25, 2021, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: dead mike on June 25, 2021, 11:55:47 AM
It's this one (https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/debut-carbon-dc/).
Whoa. That's a beautiful turntable. I've just sold mine (bought new in around 1981) and will be looking for something like this to replace it. Reading the blurb, I see it increases stiffness, too, which has to be a bonus.
Jules.. Rega is an Iconic producer and they are made in the UK. Check them out. I love mine
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 25, 2021, 09:59:28 AM
Quote from: Brooklyns Finest PoonTang on June 25, 2021, 06:28:50 AM
Buzz would say he doesn't own a turntable
I can totally see him saying that. I would guess that most people who buy these on vinyl (and most vinyl purchasers out there) don't really intend on playing them anyway. It's just a collectors thing so i doubt it matters too much that a song is missing or such.
This quote makes no sense to me. Yes I "Collect" records. But it is because I love to listen to music on vinyl.
I couldn't imagine buying records and not playing them.
Quote from: jonE5 on June 26, 2021, 09:10:42 AM
Jules.. Rega is an Iconic producer and they are made in the UK. Check them out. I love mine
Hey. I haven't looked at a Rega since everyone started buying the Planar 2 in the late 70s/early 80s. I didn't like the 'S' - shaped tonearm or that it had only 3 feet. I bought a Sansui SR-222 Mk.IV because it was black, built like a tank and it looked like it would last for ever. It probably will. It was still playing perfectly when I sold it a couple of months ago. Regas nowadays look nicer.
BTW a neighbour of mine has been building mind-blowing hi-fi equipment for as long as I've been in Hove. If I had the money, I'd spend it on him:
https://www.audionote.co.uk/turntables
Quote from: jonE5 on June 26, 2021, 09:10:42 AM
This quote makes no sense to me. Yes I "Collect" records. But it is because I love to listen to music on vinyl.
I couldn't imagine buying records and not playing them.
Obviously a lot - such as yourself - do purchase vinyl to listen to it. But honestly many don't. It would be interesting to know a percentage either way among music fans. Yet even on here im sure there are quite a few who collect them solely as desirable items.
i'll keep the fuck up and order the fix. only question is, how different will these be without opening and listening to it? something needs to be visibly different on the cover or back cover (or spine) to distinctively tell these two versions apart, right?
Quote from: vince furnier on June 26, 2021, 10:19:10 AM
something needs to be visibly different on the cover or back cover (or spine) to distinctively tell these two versions apart, right?
When Nude With Boots was recalled (warping, remember?) the replacements came with a sleeve that had a small "JK2" on the back that the original didn't.
Quote from: jules on June 26, 2021, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: vince furnier on June 26, 2021, 10:19:10 AM
something needs to be visibly different on the cover or back cover (or spine) to distinctively tell these two versions apart, right?
When Nude With Boots was recalled (warping, remember?) the replacements came with a sleeve that had a small "JK2" on the back that the original didn't.
I didn't know they offered replacements. I remember it being the same kind of deal as this senile animal. Kind of " send it back if you're not happy" and that was it. Was that a JK2 a sticker on the shrink or what?
Also, I keep reading it was 1000 copies that are messed up, that's the whole pressing right? They don't use different stampers for different colors. The limited one was 500 copies so that means the normal blue is 500 as well haha. Those slick bastards.
Quote from: dirtmerchant on June 26, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: jules on June 26, 2021, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: vince furnier on June 26, 2021, 10:19:10 AM
something needs to be visibly different on the cover or back cover (or spine) to distinctively tell these two versions apart, right?
When Nude With Boots was recalled (warping, remember?) the replacements came with a sleeve that had a small "JK2" on the back that the original didn't.
I didn't know they offered replacements. I remember it being the same kind of deal as this senile animal. Kind of " send it back if you're not happy" and that was it. Was that a JK2 a sticker on the shrink or what?
Also, I keep reading it was 1000 copies that are messed up, that's the whole pressing right? They don't use different stampers for different colors. The limited one was 500 copies so that means the normal blue is 500 as well haha. Those slick bastards.
The normal blue is advertised as 3000. How many can you press before you need to replace the stamper?
The Nude With Boots thing was printed on the sleeve:
(https://i.ibb.co/ThJZwwp/WP-20210626-18-59-45-Pro.jpg)
Quote from: jules on June 26, 2021, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: dirtmerchant on June 26, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: jules on June 26, 2021, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: vince furnier on June 26, 2021, 10:19:10 AM
something needs to be visibly different on the cover or back cover (or spine) to distinctively tell these two versions apart, right?
When Nude With Boots was recalled (warping, remember?) the replacements came with a sleeve that had a small "JK2" on the back that the original didn't.
I didn't know they offered replacements. I remember it being the same kind of deal as this senile animal. Kind of " send it back if you're not happy" and that was it. Was that a JK2 a sticker on the shrink or what?
Also, I keep reading it was 1000 copies that are messed up, that's the whole pressing right? They don't use different stampers for different colors. The limited one was 500 copies so that means the normal blue is 500 as well haha. Those slick bastards.
The normal blue is advertised as 3000. How many can you press before you need to replace the stamper?
The Nude With Boots thing was printed on the sleeve:
(https://i.ibb.co/ThJZwwp/WP-20210626-18-59-45-Pro.jpg)
Ah ok, I'm a moron. I missed that somehow. And i don't know about the stamper, that's a good question. So does this mean there are copies out there that aren't fucked? I thought it was the whole pressing
Quote from: dirtmerchant on June 26, 2021, 01:23:25 PM
And i don't know about the stamper, that's a good question. So does this mean there are copies out there that aren't fucked? I thought it was the whole pressing
Ipecac said 1000 (out of 3500) are affected. If we assume approx 1000 pieces per stamper before it needs to be replaced, there would be three knocking around. Maybe one of these was overlooked. But why would the track list change between stampers? Is each stamper programmed manually? I have no idea what I'm talking about, btw, I've never seen inside an LP factory.
Maybe they were made in two different places? Southern might manufacture the European ones and Fontana or Caroline the U.S. ones.
Maybe the winner of the next Melvins competition can get a tour of one of these places and report back.
*edit* This (https://blog.discogs.com/en/cascade-record-pressing-2/) is informative.
In true Ipecac fashion, my fucking ASA is so warped it's unplayable. I'm returning this bullshit.
:toke: Hold up, what the fuck is going on in here ?
Which records are fucked up ?
My (B group) records are still in the mail....Who the fuck is fucking up these records ?
It took me 3 months to flatten the first Nude With Boots LP !
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Quote from: Jozzy on June 26, 2021, 02:32:52 PM
In true Ipecac fashion, my fucking ASA is so warped its unplayable. I'm returning this bullshit.
that's crazy
(https://i.ibb.co/Jk8sjTV/FB-IMG-1624797237564.jpg)
Got an email exactly like that, but with my name at the top.They should take our details and post us out the correct record, instead of adding us to a mailing list for another lottery
Un-freaking-believable :shock:. There's just no excuse for this. No fucking QC at that plant. :lol: I will send mine back for a refund and re-order for end of year. While they're at it, why not just scrap the double-45 plan and just go with a single record. The CD clocks in @ 41:22, so why drag it out to 4 sides?
My recent vinyl copies of H.A.T., WWG, & GPT all sound fine, but I think the speed may be off slightly on these(AsA & Bride). I never have to adjust the speed on my turntable. It stays true. I think these two new ones sound slightly slower than the CDs.
It will be a collectors item someday, that's what the Ipecac guy said, I'd hang on to it.
Quote from: Dumpster D on June 27, 2021, 05:42:51 PM
It will be a collectors item someday, that's what the Ipecac guy said, I'd hang on to it.
Do you really think so? The warped missing song version?
I don't know, I googled it now and this was what came up:
https://blog.discogs.com/en/top-10-expensive-mispressed-records-ever-sold-discogs/
It all depends on how many ipecac get back. 1000 is a lot, so the more they get back the better. Then time depicts it's increase. I'll keep mine, like the nwb 2008. I just tuck them away then buy it again. I have multiple copies as it is. I have 2 copies of the zipper sticky fingers just because depending on if the zipper was up or down fucked a different track. Then I just bought the reissue to play
I get why so not judging, but still if I stop for a second I'm like "that's a fucking paperweight."
Mispress aside (I have one of the affected copies), has anyone else noticed that amongst the kind words from Buzzo about the Big Biz boys, he spells Jared's name wrong ('Jarod') several times in the booklet?
Quote from: 117 on June 28, 2021, 08:01:30 AM
Mispress aside (I have one of the affected copies), has anyone else noticed that amongst the kind words from Buzzo about the Big Biz boys, he spells Jared's name wrong ('Jarod') several times in the booklet?
I did notice that. Ironically, he spelled Coadys name correctly.
I just read TBSM booklet and he does it in there too, although at the very end he gets it right at least.
Quote from: 117 on June 28, 2021, 08:01:30 AM
anyone else noticed that amongst the kind words from Buzzo about the Big Biz boys
By this am i to take it that these re-releases have additional text and thoughts inside from Buzz? If so, could someone please scan/photograph them for here? I'd love to read something like that.
Keep the original release with the mistake. In a few years you will be OG and this pressing will command max $!
How much is an original Lysol going for these days? or Nevermind cd without the hidden song at the end?
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 28, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: 117 on June 28, 2021, 08:01:30 AM
anyone else noticed that amongst the kind words from Buzzo about the Big Biz boys
By this am i to take it that these re-releases have additional text and thoughts inside from Buzz? If so, could someone please scan/photograph them for here? I'd love to read something like that.
Guy who throws away sleeves and liner notes of all his albums suddenly wants to look ones from this release.
Wish I still had some of the original longboxes from the introduction of CDs. I recall the original Cypress Hill being a full length design. https://www.discogs.com/Cypress-Hill-Cypress-Hill/release/13974642
Just reminds me there was a time when I didn't keep everything from the package. (Compare to today: I have a tin full of retail stickers still attached to excised bits of cellophane from CDs. "featuring members of The Melvins, Le Butcherettes, The Mars Volta")
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 28, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: 117 on June 28, 2021, 08:01:30 AM
anyone else noticed that amongst the kind words from Buzzo about the Big Biz boys
By this am i to take it that these re-releases have additional text and thoughts inside from Buzz? If so, could someone please scan/photograph them for here? I'd love to read something like that.
Yeah, someone please scan the new liner notes to NWB. That's the only one I didn't buy, since my original was acceptable. He doesn't say much in the BSM notes, other than people thought it was too weird, he says not weird enough, and the engineer was an idiot, some miserable ex-'80s rocker.
aSA liner notes just re-iterate the massive re-start the band took after Kevin's demise, and much praise of Jared & Coady.
Maybe I'll keep my copy after all. It's not like I'm hurting to get that $20 back. Will probably buy a fixed copy again later this year.
Yeah, what's with the f'd up spelling of Jared's name? Kinda like Osborne or Osbourne? Is it a stupid A-Rod(the retired Yankee) reference, maybe Buzz used to call Jared Ja-Rod?
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on June 28, 2021, 05:12:29 PM
Yeah, what's with the f'd up spelling of Jared's name? Kinda like Osborne or Osbourne? Is it a stupid A-Rod(the retired Yankee) reference, maybe Buzz used to call Jared Ja-Rod?
Very likely, but other Buzz liner notes have been riddled with grammatical mistakes and typos. I don't think they've ever had an effective proofreading process.
Quote from: #2 Pencil on June 25, 2021, 04:54:20 PM
On Discogs reviews have it ipecac is aware and will replace the records (in December 🤦♂️). It appears to be the first 1000 pressed and includes the limited blue/splatter. Someone there says it also seems to be Amazon UK shipments, not sure on this though. I have blue asa coming from jb here in aus with red nwb and bsm also. If they're fucked up, I'll let you know.
I can confirm the pressing sold in JB Australia are fucked also.
My guess is the whole pressing. I cannot confirm anyone yet to have one with the correct track listing.
you dont have to change the stampers for a color change. unless there were different pressing plants used theres a good chance every copy is affected.
I do realise this, but was just taking into account that Ipecac said it only affected 1000. And also it was mentioned that it was Amazon UK shipments mostly (not sure who said this officially, but that is on Discogs).
As also mentioned here with someone having a warped copy, while my copy is not warped, the discs themselves have crap all over them and in the sleeve from the end trimming.
Personally I think Ipecac have approached this all wrong. Rather than trying to sugar coat it with the collectors baseball card analogy, why not just repress the 1st disc correctly. It don't really matter what colour it is or even make it a lucky dip. You just have to contact them so they can ship it out or do it through your place of purchase. I think that would impact their bottom line better. Either way they look at it, it's their fuck up, so they will lose money because of that. Just stem the bleeding.
This is true D, but the cover has 2020 on it. Preorders also went out very early also. And I work in manufacturing. Not only would Ipecac have got a print proof to sign off on, they would have also been given a test pressing and even a master used for the stampers. They, plus the small manufacturing company and countless others, all still missed it. They also randomly pull out discs for spot checks. Every time things like this happen, the finger gets pointed. The creative print team, oh we just made sure the colours were correct, the production, we just made sure the discs had no visible defects. Sorry buddy, where I work I always cop it. Whoever is responsible for QC at Ipecac, and in charge of the project is to blame. And to press 3500. Well that's just embarrassing. And now to be only able to fix it by approx Dec. that's incompetence.
They didn't get the track listing wrong. They put the last track as track 2. Then track 2 as track 3. How do you do that? Did they even supply A Civilized Worm? This again comes back to incompetence at Ipecac's end. So sorry but it all points back to them. I would also put my money on the pressing/manufacturing plant can also prove this like my company does when this happens and they point at me.
I would also suspect Ipecac picked it up when a small batch of samples were shipped to the label. All manufactures send a sample batch of the product to the company and production manager as part of the production. By then it was too late.
Was the ASA supposed to come with a booklet? Mine didn't.
Quote from: Benjamin Way on June 30, 2021, 08:50:33 PM
Was the ASA supposed to come with a booklet? Mine didn't.
Yes, contact ipecac to get your booklet.
What gets me is there are Hydrahead test pressings out there. Somebody in the Melvins/Ipecac camp has to have one. Why didn't they use it? How did this track order get fucked up w/ CW missing and VFP as track two? Maybe looking to much into this as a conspiracy theory, but makes me think Ipecac could be doing vinyl releases all along cut off of wave files, and maybe this fuckup just came off an email that was errored or an out of order track list.
Kind of ironic in all this that Buzz doesn't have a turntable, and is not a vinyl enthusiast. :lol:
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on July 01, 2021, 06:33:32 PM
Kind of ironic in all this that Buzz doesn't have a turntable, and is not a vinyl enthusiast. :lol:
Given Buzz's hands on approach to everything Melvins, I can see this going to him to sign off on and having no way to play it!
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on July 01, 2021, 06:33:32 PM
What gets me is there are Hydrahead test pressings out there. Somebody in the Melvins/Ipecac camp has to have one. Why didn't they use it? How did this track order get fucked up w/ CW missing and VFP as track two? Maybe looking to much into this as a conspiracy theory, but makes me think Ipecac could be doing vinyl releases all along cut off of wave files, and maybe this fuckup just came off an email that was errored or an out of order track list.
Kind of ironic in all this that Buzz doesn't have a turntable, and is not a vinyl enthusiast. :lol:
No conspiracy, but a typical rookie mistake.
My guess is the tracks were sent as digital files. Numbered 1 2 3 4 5. If you don't put it as 01 02 03 etc. your pc will put the order as 1 10 2 3 4.
Quote from: #2 Pencil on July 02, 2021, 01:27:01 AM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on July 01, 2021, 06:33:32 PM
What gets me is there are Hydrahead test pressings out there. Somebody in the Melvins/Ipecac camp has to have one. Why didn't they use it? How did this track order get fucked up w/ CW missing and VFP as track two? Maybe looking to much into this as a conspiracy theory, but makes me think Ipecac could be doing vinyl releases all along cut off of wave files, and maybe this fuckup just came off an email that was errored or an out of order track list.
Kind of ironic in all this that Buzz doesn't have a turntable, and is not a vinyl enthusiast. :lol:
No conspiracy, but a typical rookie mistake.
My guess is the tracks were sent as digital files. Numbered 1 2 3 4 5. If you don't put it as 01 02 03 etc. your pc will put the order as 1 10 2 3 4.
Well, if that is the actual reason... Fuck, digital vinyl is quite a controversial topic, most people hate them but nowadays it's almost impossible to determine if today releases are digital, analog or both.
Remember in the '80s/'90s when all CDs had a 3 letter statement on the back cover - AAD, ADD, or DDD? I wish vinyl releases would spell out the source, but they don't because A- most kids don't care, and B - most vinyl purists would avoid buying an overpriced digital LP if it came with a "warning".
I like with some of the recent Zappa reissues/vault releases, that they actually went direct from analog tapes to vinyl, when they could have done it the easy/cheap way. I'm thinking of Weasels Ripped My Flesh, & Finer Moments. And then you have a band like Shellac, where they take pride in the way they do vinyl, the real way.
Id be surprised if analog masters still exist. There might a few in estates like Zappa you described, but vast majority probably don't exist anymore. Everything is getting mixed to 5.1 now in deluxe and super deluxe boxsets. And even those guys struggle to find all the original masters. If they do, then it's digitally captured at that point. It's probably destroyed after this. It's all digital now. Even then, how did the Melvins record this? Even if it was analog, it was more than likely digitally mixed and mastered. Even Jack White admits to doing it.
i have an interview from the PHX New Times from this era where they talked about Toshi recording (A)SA to Pro Tools on 31 tracks. i'm pretty sure i've read that HAT was the first album recorded that way. also it's hard to imagine COD was recorded onstage onto tape unless it was ADAT.
Quote from: #2 Pencil on July 04, 2021, 05:46:37 PM
Id be surprised if analog masters still exist.
About 15 years ago I knew a band who recorded on Half inch 16 track and sent those tapes off for an "analog" mastering, and from what I was told there are only one or two places in all of North America who can do an ALL analog mastering. I was also told that it was about 12 grand for a days work...the Vinyl they put out sounded like crap compared to the CD actually...it was a 12 Inch EP pressing so it had plenty of air at the end of Side and and B...the guitars and drums were totally in the dirt. :lol:
My '(a)SA' is missing 'Civilized Worm'.
B & D sides are also a lil' off center,
just like my pink 'Gift Of Sacrifice'.
Ipecac should be out a free Civilized Worm 7" single. Proof of purchase of the fucked up aSA automatically gets one.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on July 07, 2021, 11:49:02 AM
Ipecac should be out a free Civilized Worm 7" single. Proof of purchase of the fucked up aSA automatically gets one.
Amen!!!
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on July 07, 2021, 11:49:02 AM
Ipecac should be out a free Civilized Worm 7" single. Proof of purchase of the fucked up aSA automatically gets one.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/cbc45d60c53d9380119ca09c96d011c5/tenor.gif)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRRT_9opMs1/?utm_medium=copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CRRT_9opMs1/?utm_medium=copy_link)
" Haze_xxl: What do you do with 90 misprinted blue splatter copies of a Melvin's classic? You make lemonade, and as Curley says VIOLA! Here's the gatefold, silk screened, with tipped in block prints, art edition of... (a) Senile Aminal. Those continually upset by small run, expensive hand made editions that sell out instantly, just walk away. This ain't for you! It's the first time I've recycled some imagery but it was too perfect for this title not to."
Tmrw
https://www.instagram.com/p/CS2aM8IpZH3/?utm_medium=copy_link
Total run of 100:
one edition of 66 copies
one edition of 24 copies
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on July 07, 2021, 11:49:02 AM
Ipecac should be out a free Civilized Worm 7" single. Proof of purchase of the fucked up aSA automatically gets one.
Even a flexi would be cool.
I'll add that mistakes do happen- I'm not sure mailing a7-inch to everyone, in this economy, would be the right thing for everyone- that's a pretty hefty financial penalty to the label, especially when they offered to accept returns.
I guess if the label screwed up and didn't check the test press (or didn't even do a test press) they should send out a flexi or 7-inch. If the mistake was on the plant side after test press approval, I kind of think you just have to let that one slide (though in that case, I think most plants would repress the record...?_) We'll probably never know.
Does anyone know if they plan on repressing the record correctly? I had to return mine because it was so badly warped and unplayable. I really don't want to pay for another copy that has a screwed up tracklist.
Quote from: Jozzy on August 22, 2021, 01:52:50 PM
Does anyone know if they plan on repressing the record correctly? I had to return mine because it was so badly warped and unplayable. I really don't want to pay for another copy that has a screwed up tracklist.
They should be repressing ASA around December.
Did anyone here score a copy of the fancy edition? How much was it?
Quote from: jules on August 22, 2021, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: Jozzy on August 22, 2021, 01:52:50 PM
Does anyone know if they plan on repressing the record correctly? I had to return mine because it was so badly warped and unplayable. I really don't want to pay for another copy that has a screwed up tracklist.
They should be repressing ASA around December.
Sweet...I really hope so. ASA is up there with my favorites and I really want it in my collection.
Quote from: Jozzy on August 22, 2021, 07:05:11 PM
Did anyone here score a copy of the fancy edition? How much was it?
didn't but it was $200, $225 respectively
Quote from: laptop sorcery on August 23, 2021, 12:12:43 AM
Quote from: Jozzy on August 22, 2021, 07:05:11 PM
Did anyone here score a copy of the fancy edition? How much was it?
didn't but it was $200, $225 respectively
:lol:
https://bifocalmedia.com/ will have Melvins / A senile animal baseball shirts with haze's design 'lumpen the saddest walrus' today 3pm it said... edition of 300.
definite must buy :D
As I understand it, HAZE and Walsby have had the manufacturers completely miss out the neck stitching and double-stitch the hem in error. For authenticity. A correctly stitched version will be on sale in December.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c__-8KKbcE
:lol: :lol: :lol:
From Ipecec FB:
FIVE LEGGED DOG - Our manufacturer had to split up the order we did across a few months. Ipecac Webstore/Bandcamp orders will ship around the original Jan 28th release date. US record stores should have it March 11th and International record stores on April 8th. Good news is they came out looking and sounding great, as you can see in the video.
(A) SENILE ANIMAL - The manufacturing gods have not smiled upon us on this. We thought we'd have the corrected versions in December, but now it's looking like it won't be til the Summer.
OTHER RELEASES - Also this Summer, we should be getting some more stock of the standard color for the other reissues: Nude With Boots, Hostile Ambient Takeover, The Bride Screamed Murder and Gluey Porch Treatments. Lastly, we're working on a couple new vinyl reissues for later in 2022, so stay tuned for info on those.
Thanks again for all your patience and support!
thx 4 the update Jules
The new presses for (a) senile animal are up:
https://ipecac-music.myshopify.com/products/a-senile-animal-sea-blue-vinyl?_pos=1&_psq=a%20senisle&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=39686498549952
Sold out on Bandcamp lightning quick so I ordered off this site, thanks for the heads up!
Got the Senile Animal in last night. Havent listened yet but the liner notes are solid. Buzz gushes hard on this record and speaks very highly of Jared and Coady
Only just seen Senile Animal has been finally repressed here and luckily I got an order in for it. Any issues with it this time.
Quote from: Tyronehell on July 10, 2022, 02:26:33 PM
Only just seen Senile Animal has been finally repressed here and luckily I got an order in for it. Any issues with it this time.
It sounds great. All the tracks are even there too!