i left my CD case at home, and being at school with a digitized 'the crybaby' on my computer, i am left with many questions. i am confused about who performs what on each song...are the guests only responsible for vocals? i can't find any detail on the "internet". i am particularly curious about Divorced..who does what on there? which members of tool and which members of Melvinos? do they cover each song and allow the original band's singer to do the...singering? if somebody could fill me in on this mystery it would be very appreciated. im in the dark up here in vermont with no CD jackets and linear notes to speak of!
I've heard that divorced involves each member of Tool and Melvins (although i don't see where Maynard would fit in)
On most of the other songs the melvins play all the instruments... Bogdan plays lap steel guitar on 1 tune i think, bliss blood plays the saw or wurlitzer or whatever the hell that is, patton mixes stuff around on his track, other than that it's mostly melvins...
oh that's awesome. im glad to hear it....
i thought patton was doing vox on that track..my roomate suggested that dale and toolie drummer were alternating on the solo, and it seems viable. either that or (anderson?) has a huge set (which he does), because the drum solo has quite diverse sounds, and two seemingly different styles. doesn't sound like dales set, too many different drum sounds.
if someone could clarify about the drumming please? that's what i am most concerned with, i want to give proper credit where it is due, and of course i'd like it to be with crover. CROVER.
Patton does do vocals on that one actually, i don't think buzz does any at all except for maybe that little bit in divorced. But as for the drumming, i understand that it's a "drum-off" between Dale and Danny Carey (Tool), i fuckin love that part. I think you can tell who's drumming is whose, Carey's is a little more intricate i think, and Dale's has more punch and feeling, they're both amazing...
Divorced is one of my favorites also. Here's what it says on the c/d:
Divorced
Written by Dale Crover
and the Melvins
Produced by the Melvins, Tool
Ryeland Allison and Vincent De
Franco
Recorded at the Lodge,
Hollywood, CA
Tool appears courtesy of
Volcano Entertainment II, L.L.C.
On this web site a few years ago there was congratulations to Dale for being a newlywed. It was St. Patricks Day 2001. I got busted again that night that's why I remember it.
This song must be about a prior divorce. I read on another site he was married to Lori from Acid King.
Ever notice that if you remove Lori from Acid King and insert Dale, you have the line-up for Altamont?
(sorry if this has been written already, I didn't read much topics since I got here)
I think this album is pretty consistent, aside from a few letdowns (i.e. the Kevin Sharp song). Overall, it's a decent effort: even with all the songs being contributions/partnerships, it still sounds like a Melvins album.
Although there are a few parts I always skip (the aforementioned Kevin Sharp tune and the Mike Patton song got old quick), I like to rock this one every once in a while when I'm not in the mood to listen to their "much better" other albums.
Mike Patton is the emperor and his new clothes.
Everyone rants and raves how great he is,
but nothing he does has any longevity at all.
WOW! youve really figured him out...
Yeah, I don't find myself listening to much Patton stuff anymore, but FAith no More, mr bungle fantomas and tomahawk are still really good.
I like a lot of Mike Patton's stuff, but some of it is just crap. For example, that Maldoror album was so bad, and that one solo album of his "adult themes...." where he made dumb noises with his voice is just worthless (no instruments?). Let's be honest here, people that bought those albums probably don't listen to them all too often (thank God I passed those up). I still can't get into the Mr. Bungle cd "disco volante", but i guess that cd just isn't my cup of tea. So when Patton puts forth a lot of effort, it's usually good, but every now and then he just drops a clunker.
Mike Patton is a vocal god and a musical chameleon...some of his work (i.e. Faith No More) is simply breathtaking, but he sure ain't infalliable. Just look at Weird Little Boy, or Adult Themes.
Anyone hear those Peeping Tom demos a while back? Genius stuff! He needs to get them out and cease the experimental screaming...
Quote from: anacondaMike Patton on the big band FantomasMelvins songs is shit!
Did you hear the complete Fant
They played Sacrifice but didn't put it on the CD!!!
I really like the Crybaby for the most part. Well like you said, all of it apart from Moon Pie. But i'm sure it'll all make sense after a while. It worked for a lot of the other stuff (Lividity, Eye Flys, AntiVermin Seed etc. i love em to death now).
Yes, I heard one of those Peeping Tom songs. When is he gonna release that?
Quote from: LeroyYes, I heard one of those Peeping Tom songs. When is he gonna release that?
Knowing him, never. I believe he leaked them himself to confuse/piss off his fans. Mind you, he's confusing and pissing them off even more with his shameful business practices and lackluster work (see the whole Delirium Cordia crisis). I think he's very gifted, a genius at times even, but his head is sometimes so far up his rectum...
Yeah, he should stop fucking around with our heads. I mean, I'm all for bands having artistic freedom, but the problem is that he does like 10 projects at once, so as a result some of them kinda suck.
I think there have been legal complications with the Peeping Tom project, and also, Mike wanted it to be put out on a huge label, capable of handling distribution duties in a way Ipecac couldn't.
Quote from: GrindfagI think there have been legal complications with the Peeping Tom project, and also, Mike wanted it to be put out on a huge label, capable of handling distribution duties in a way Ipecac couldn't.
Well, it's not as if he hasn't had offers. Fred Durst was willing to take Peeping Tom under his wing which would have afforded it huge distribution, it's just that Patton decided he didn't want to deal with Durst. Understandable, but really beggars can't afford to be choosers. I realise he carries a lot of name value and after Firecracker he'll be hotter than ever, but you have to remember that for the past decade he hasn't put his name to anything much that a major label would want their hands on. Plus, Mr. Bungle's stint on Warners showed the world that Patton is quite willing to fuck around on major label time (Disco Volante).*
By legal complications, what prey tell do you mean? I was of the understanding that Patton and Dan the Automator got on splendidly and he was down to do another Lovage record..
*By the by, I like Disco Volante. I think it's a great record but it's obviously not a work designed for a major label. I mean "fuck around" to imply that he showed a lack of willing to conform, even a little, to what a major expects of an artist.
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerBy legal complications, what prey tell do you mean? I was of the understanding that Patton and Dan the Automator got on splendidly and he was down to do another Lovage record..
Something about the guest musicians on the album, specially Igor Cavalera. I don't know much about the details, most of what I read about that was from hearsay.
As for him not wanting to deal with Durst, I don't know, maybe he has some integrity sense going on.
Quote from: Grindfag
Something about the guest musicians on the album, specially Igor Cavalera. I don't know much about the details, most of what I read about that was from hearsay.
As for him not wanting to deal with Durst, I don't know, maybe he has some integrity sense going on.
Integrity? Perhaps. Sense? Perhaps not. If he wanted major label distribution he's going to have to deal with people just like Fred Durst in suits anyhow. I know he wants indie pride, but surely he's proven that he's a man who does what he wants with his work and doesn't need to avoid the "sellout" tag. If he was desperate for major label distribution he should've gone with Durst. It would have been an easy ride.
And Igor Cavalera?!? I thought it was going to be similar to Lovage, with samples and synths etc. Where would Igor fit in? Mind you, maybe I'm wrong...
He said it was gonna be guest musicians from well-known bands, and I remember him saying he run into legal altercations with a few artists, namely Igor and his label (Roadrunner/Sum). Don't take my word on that, though...
As for him having to take shit from record labels, my guess is he's trying to mantain his indie pride, or something, by not standing to anyone's patterns, but who can tell.
I didn't know Durst approached him.
Quote from: GrindfagHe said it was gonna be guest musicians from well-known bands, and I remember him saying he run into legal altercations with a few artists, namely Igor and his label (Roadrunner/Sum). Don't take my word on that, though...
As for him having to take shit from record labels, my guess is he's trying to mantain his indie pride, or something, by not standing to anyone's patterns, but who can tell.
I didn't know Durst approached him.
Well, Igor's been booted from Roadrunner now but I still had no idea he was involved. So Peeping Tom might be Patton's Probot, eh?
Yeah, Durst allegedly approached him a couple of years back when he first announced Peeping Tom but Patton laughed him off.
Mind you, even in these few messages we've come up with completely different ideas about what Peeping Tom is. I think the only thing we can ascertain is that nothing's certain about it yet and the whole project is riddled with hearsay and rumours. Maybe the Ipecac users were right-maybe Patton's using the project to see where his fans will lead a rumour...
I used to post on the Hypycrap bored but got the boot. They wouldn't let me post about the new Tomahawk there cause it wasn't out yet...I thought that was dumb
Anyway, the interview I read with Patton had him saying Peeping Tom was intended to be his next huge band, as in commercial breakthrough, and stuff. I know I'm curious.
Quote from: GrindfagI used to post on the Hypycrap bored but got the boot. They wouldn't let me post about the new Tomahawk there cause it wasn't out yet...I thought that was dumb
I remember making a topic there demanding someone pirate Delirium Cordia and post it online and the next day the board closed... :lol:
They can't take a joke can they?
Quote from: Reverend Ebeneezer
I think he's very gifted, a genius at times even, but his head is sometimes so far up his rectum...
A true genius is seldom the cause of his own downfall.
"Spineless" from Skeleton Key always stood out for me as the best on Crybaby.
That song is really fucking good.
Quote from: idiotboyQuote from: Reverend Ebeneezer
I think he's very gifted, a genius at times even, but his head is sometimes so far up his rectum...
A true genius is seldom the cause of his own downfall.
I think if Patton spent as much time trying to make quality music as he does trying to alienate people, he'd be a true force to be reckoned with.
That having been said, I used to be a huge Patton fanatic, but over the years, I think he's been more about quantity, rather than quality.
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerWell, Igor's been booted from Roadrunner now .
Igor and Dale Crover,2 bests drummmmmers in the world!
So ya know that drum solo duel on divorced:
1 which drummer is Dale (the last or the second last) and how can you tell?
2 who won the duel? and why?
No one won... and it's very very obvious who's who....
Quote from: idiotboySo ya know that drum solo duel on divorced:
1 which drummer is Dale (the last or the second last) and how can you tell?
2 who won the duel? and why?
1. Second last (if I understand your meaning)... or right. Danny's snare just has that sound...
2. We win
What a pretty ditty.
I reckon the other guy won - coz his beats are much quicker.
quicker beats does not equal 18 yrs worth of
Buzzo's farts in the tour van, and all that bad food.
8)
whoever did the drum roll at the very end won, thats fer sure.
Its really easy to tell dale and danny apart for me at least like someone above said danny just has that sound.
Crybaby is one of the few Melvins CD's I don't own. I know a lot of people put down COD as their worst. I have mixed feelings about it. I've only heard bits & pieces of Crybaby and not really liked what I've heard. Anyway, I thought I'd put this question up to the experts here.
Is Crybaby worth buying?
It would depend on your level of devotion/fan-obsession i guess... and your tastes. I know people that love that album. It's probably my least favourite, but i would still buy it again.
I imagine that you would like "divorced", the track Dale wrote, played with Tool... there are some very good songs on the cd, while others seem to be dragged down by the contributing guests or other things, and it's not very cohesive... but i'd buy it just to have the trilogy, never mind the good tracks on it.
It was my first Melvins purchase and put me off them for quite some time...wasn't impressed. To this day, it's the only Melvins release I'm quite happy to say that I dislike. It's worth having to have The Trilogy but IMO, there's nothing on there that warrants shelling out
Amazing CD.... Very experimental.
You got Tool, David Yow, Hank Williams the 3rd, Mike Patton, Skeleton Key.
The songs by all of those are amazing
The CD should grow on you.
If you're a fan of Stag, Honky and bootlicker, you should dig this throughly.
Highly reccomended.
It's more like a compliation album than a Melvins album. There are some throwaways on there but there is some amazing stuff as well.
I'd recommend that you buy it. It will take a while to grow on you though.
if you like the melvins...i mean REALLY like em youll like this one...
dry drunk alone would make most melvins happy campers if it was released as a single...fans of the other albums WILL like this one...haha am ay riiitarrd..
that secret window movie sucked donkey cock!
Secret Window??? pls explain...
You should be able to pick up Crybaby used for under $5. You spend more than that on a single alcoholic beverage sometimes and never think twice about it.
i dont have the whole album too, but i would buy it just for Divorced and The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead
i think you would like it
'It's a European hinge, described in a bronze fashion'
wouldn't u rather have the basic necessities of human life - toilet paper, laundry powder, a pot scrub, spare light bulbs, clothing - for gods sakes! No one should have to go without clothing... :evil: :cry:
well i got a new friend: his name is Sir Bridy
yeah. but sir bridy is boring as fuck
(??? - im just guessing :))
Sobriety.
But I kind of like yours better.
do you like that weird part with trumpet?
how is this song called?
cant remember
isnt it blockbuster?
It's the melvins so of course you should get it but I have to say it's one of my least favorite melvins albums. It's got the potential to be really cool but it just doesn't click w/ me. The Foetus track sounds like Weird Al Is singing it.
kurva:
he says sobriety , not sir bridy
dry drunk - sobriety :)
the guy saying that makes me think of hunter s. thompson...but he would NEVER say that... hahah :P
Quote from: klumpthe guy saying that makes me think of hunter s. thompson...but he would NEVER say that... hahah :P
agreed.
Quote from: klumpthe guy saying that makes me think of hunter s. thompson...but he would NEVER say that... hahah :P
He wouldn't say it because he wouldn't have sobriety as a friend, or because he wouldn't think he was as boring as fuck?
Nowadays I think Thompson will just say ....aaaaghhggaahh bllaaaah...can someone get me my inflatable doll and a fire exstinquisher??? :P
I understand he's almost entirely insane nowadays...although his autobiography which surfaced about a year back wasn't too unhinged IIRC. No more than usual for Thompson anyhow. Spekaing of Hunter, anyone ever read The Rum Diary? Methinks he should've written more fiction based on the evidence of that book...
Quote from: Reverend EbeneezerI understand he's almost entirely insane nowadays...although his autobiography which surfaced about a year back wasn't too unhinged IIRC. No more than usual for Thompson anyhow. Spekaing of Hunter, anyone ever read The Rum Diary? Methinks he should've written more fiction based on the evidence of that book...
I quite enjoyed Kingdom of Fear.
I have the Rum Diary but haven't read it yet. He started that decades ago, didn't he?
Did anybody download this?: http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26878
It's pretty good.
rum diarys is probably one of my favorites by him. i got wraped up in it pretty quit and didn't put it down until i was done. its great because he was so young and unjaded and or hadn't done that many drugs yet. there is a real sense of drunken innocense in that book. i don't know if that makes sense, but i really like that book.
Id buy this record just for "Mine is no disgrace"
Foetus owns.
Check out Hole or Nail if you dont believe me.. huh bitch!?!
hehh :shock:
Crybaby is really hard to listen to all the way through. Divorced is a fucking amazing song, as is the Jesus Lizard cover. That's about it for me, though...
i got crybaby the other day and i dont mind it. divorced and blockbuster are just amazing, i got the record for those two songs, the rest of the tracks are ok, they do intresting covers
the record sounds like the melvins had alot of fun just playing around and making it... like they got to do whatever they want on it... its real neat... i like it.
smells like teen spirit as an opening song is just so funny.
I finally got it a couple of days ago.
If I had known about Divorced I would have gotten this sucker the day it came out!
Quote from: TOOLI finally got it a couple of days ago.
If I had known about Divorced I would have gotten this sucker the day it came out!
Better late than never.
Quote from: TOOLI finally got it a couple of days ago.
If I had known about Divorced I would have gotten this sucker the day it came out!
Divorced is pretty good. My favs are the Hank III songs, the Patton songs and the Foetus song. Something about raping a nun, sounds like a plan!
this is the only Melvins album I don't like
I'm guessing this one with Biafra will be the next one that sucks...why are they doing this :(
fuck Biafra
Quote from: DanGerousI'm guessing this one with Biafra will be the next one that sucks...why are they doing this :(
fuck Biafra
Here here! I dunno, but Buzz seems to be rather enamoured bya ll this old punk at the moment, hence the Venomous Concept/Poison Idea similarity. Mind you, pretty much everything I've heard with Nasal Boy's name attatched to it is utter shite and I have no idea why people respect him at all...
I respect Jello for not trying hard to make his music accessible.
Jello, Alternative tentacles and Dead Kenneds was history !
and deserves respect !
Yes, but Gary Glitter was a part of musical history in that he got glam rock started. Does he deserve respect?
I rest my case.
no, he fucked children and dressed up...
but people must be allowed to like different stuff...
no! i did NOT mean fucking children! haha
Fair enough. Just voicing my opinion that Biafra should take his billions from DK sales and fuck right off. Peace out, y'all.
okay...so we all know the song. the part where it's just a distortion hum followed by a long drum solo. you know the part? of course you do! i was listening to this on my headphones and realize that when the drums pause you hear either music or more drums. but, it's REALLY, REALLY LOW. anybody notice this? i can't figure out what it is? but i think it's drums. if so, why did they turn them down? boggles the mind...
Hmm, the two drumkits are panned left and right, are you sure you're hearing it right? There aren't gaps in the drum-off, sounds like you might be just getting one kit.
I think your headphones are stuffed!
yep sounds like one side of your headphones has shit on you. Have you ever listened to it without headphones?
yeah, it's dale on the left speaker and danny carey of tool on the right, i think. they're doing a 'drum battle'.
I guess its obvious who would win
I read a lot of views on this album before I bought it (turns out caution was unnecessary as it's actually one of their more interesting outings) and quite a few mentioned that they thought Godzik Pink's contribution was out of place and annoying. What does everyone else reckon?
Personally I love the way 'Dry Drunk' is put together - it's one of only three or four tracks on that album that bears any resemblance to the Melvins 'sound' and, while if this track was on 'Stoner Witch' or 'Hostile Ambient Takeover' I'd probably think differently about it, I think it works really well, especially with David Yow on vocals. And when it all grinds back into gear after Godzik Pink's Mothers-esque intermission, it's one of the funniest things in the Melvins catalogue.
And while I'm on the subject of The Crybaby - the sheer scale of this 73min album makes it a winner in my book. Seldom will anyone hear a group of songs this eclectic make their way onto the same CD. Faves are 'Blockbuster', 'Ramblin' Man', 'Divorced' (when you listen to it closely you can tell exactly who's doing what, but still have no idea who did what first), 'Mine Is No Disgrace' (love Thirlwell's vocals) and 'Spineless'.
I totally agree! I recentley bought a creative zen mp3 player, and put almost all my music on it. I have been listening almost exclusevly to Crybaby. It reminds me of listening to Pigface. Infact I would put Crybaby and (Pigface) "fook" and "notes from the underground" on the same table as must listen to colaberations.
It's a matter of taste. There are some good songs on the album but when I want to listen to the Melvins, it is the last album I would want to hear.
I love Dry Drunk. Crybaby was my first Melvins album and that song always stands out. I love how it sounds so metal at the beginning but then you hear what sounds like a sheep going the whole way through the verse, I love the Godzik Pink part, the sobriety, European hinge part and I love the scream to top it all off. It's a perfect song. Crybaby is definitely one of my favourite Melvins albums. Mine is no disgrace, Spineless, G.I Joe, Blockbuster all stand out but Divorced is a work of epic proportions. Give this album the credit it deserves.
Love Crybaby!!
its a great album :)
Putting the Godzik Pink bit in the middle is spot on! And the rest of it pounds like a Maggot! And David Yow!
My favourite song on the crybaby is probably the Foetus one. I don't like Moon Pie very much but the rest are fun listening.
It's the most underrated Melvins LP of them all.
Of course, everyone has the tracks they'll usually skip. For me, the Thirlwell and the Patton tracks are the weakest.
But the strong stuff sits with the very best stuff from their legacy. Dry Drunk is one of those killer tracks that hardly gets the props it deserves.
It's certainly the highlight of the 'Trilogy' for me - The Maggot & the Bootlicker will almost certainly never get played in the near future whilst I get urges to listen to specific tracks from the Crybaby all the time.
Quote from: grachan on November 04, 2005, 07:29:44 PM
It's the most underrated Melvins LP of them all.
Of course, everyone has the tracks they'll usually skip. For me, the Thirlwell and the
Because I skip it. But I'll tell you what, next time the Crybaby floats its way to my CD tray I wont skip it. Maybe it'll give me some pleasure.
It's just personal taste. Not judging anyone else.
Quote from: grachan on November 06, 2005, 07:38:41 AM
Because I skip it. But I'll tell you what, next time the Crybaby floats its way to my CD tray I wont skip it. Maybe it'll give me some pleasure.
It's just personal taste. Not judging anyone else.
yeah, give it another go.
its worth it.
I can actually say that I like every song on that record, the last one I "embraced" was Moon pie.
Quote from: Dudbean on November 08, 2005, 03:41:20 PM
QuoteFoetus is great, he beats Bob Dylan.
At what?
at throwing rocks :)
Quote from: Andy on November 02, 2005, 06:58:02 PM
I don't like Moon Pie very much but the rest are fun listening.
why does everyone keep picking on my homeboy kevy sharp? I WON'T HAVE IT!!
moon pie is fucking INCREDIBLE. high end crybaby. I may have a biased opinion but sharp's contribution may well be my favorite. the HEAVIEST, and heavy is good.
Quote from: glen on November 09, 2005, 06:19:29 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 02, 2005, 06:58:02 PM
I don't like Moon Pie very much but the rest are fun listening.
why does everyone keep picking on my homeboy kevy sharp?
Was listening to the WMPG radio show earlier (indeeeed) and when asked about who will be featuring on The Crybaby album Dale mentions Beck... twice. Did this fall through or is he actually on there somewhere? Mixing drinks or something like that?
he's not on there.
Beck was supposed to do the Nirvana song
from the crybaby inlay: "..Ironically we had a far easier time dealing with Leif than with Beck's management, Leif got the song done, we're still waiting for Beck."
a ha, awesome thanks. I think I'd quite like to hear that
no man, he was supposed to do the nirvana joint but he never called them back twice,
so, in steps lief has-been and boom, instant cheese and brilliance all in one fell swoop, you
have to remember that lief had been revived a couple times from alleged ODs right
around that time
Quote from: Dudbean on December 27, 2005, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: Rembrandt Pussyhorse on December 27, 2005, 04:41:34 PM
Beck was supposed to do the Nirvana song
from the crybaby inlay: "..Ironically we had a far easier time dealing with Leif than with Beck's management, Leif got the song done, we're still waiting for Beck."
I think Beck was supposed to do another song, not the Nirvana one. I wish he would have come through; it may have been good.
I think a Melvins/beck album would be stupendous. :P
I believe it was Beck's management they never heard back from, not Beck. If it matters.
beck and melvins is like fantomas and rage or the beasties or something.......no work
(http://www.akashicbooks.com/OfGrunge&Government1.jpg)
:lol:
Quote from: Cranial Bifida on December 28, 2005, 01:58:45 AM
beck and melvins is like fantomas and rage or the beasties or something.......no work
Don't you mean the Osmond Family and the Ramones?
Quote from: Cranial Bifida on December 28, 2005, 01:58:45 AM
beck and melvins is like fantomas and rage or the beasties or something.......no work
Don't forget Beck sampled Buzz' guitar for 'Beercan' and Buzz is in the video too.
Beck's a fucking Scientologist FREAK! :-k
Good point - that got me thinking about how scientologists like tom cruise
are attacking psychiatry right now because they say it's not a real science,
well hey buddy get a clue, you're 'religion' is a crock of shit too, it started out
as a sci-fi story by a drunk recluse who was the biggest fraud in the world.
fucking hypocrites are trying to discredit psychiatry because psychiatry can
discredit their whole reason of existence, a diagnosed psychotic named
L Ron Hubbard. The brainwashed do not know they are brainwashed!
hopefully the melvins aren't scientologists
Quote from: cellphone on December 30, 2005, 06:51:22 PM
hopefully the melvins aren't scientologists
I'd be as heartbroken as I was when I found out Marilyn Manson wasn't really talented.
so this album has grown on me a lot lately. i've always liked it, just certain songs. but now i can listen to it from start to finish and gotta say it's pretty impressive as a whole. also a good conversation piece when played at parties.
and have the Melvins ever been asked who the Crybabys they refer to in the liner notes are??? maybe they knew the reaction they were going to get with this album?
i remember reading somewhere that the trilogy was a poke of fun towards the progresion of bands' music over their career (particularly nirvana perhaps???) but anyway yes the crybaby is a sneaky fucker. first time you put it on ooo thats good, that isnt hmm how odd, thats good, etc... and now i love it. I bought it from the houdini gig in london as well which makes it particularly nice.
Most of the songs on the album are good. But it is the last album I go to when I want to listen to the Melvins.
"I feel like I could rape a nun"
I let a buddy of mine test drive my truck. The Crybaby just happened to be in the c/d player.
He came back asking what the fuck I was listening to. What is that "please give me a fucken beer" song?
Teen spirit cover is the only song that has not gotten better with multiple times through the c/d.
http://www.foetus.org/
discog . . .
"DAMP" . . .
song "Mine is No Disgrace (w/ Melvins)" . . .
wait, with who?!?!? . . .
i love FOETUS, so this looks like something i need to get . . .
weird . . .
Crybaby.
What he said:
Mine is No Disgrace (w/Melvins) [08:23] JGT's collaboration with the Melvins;
it previously appeared on the Melvins The Crybaby album.
music written by buzz and played by melvins lyrics written and sung by jg thirlwell with additional samples by jgt
fuck, i just noobed all over myelf . . .
has anyone else noticed that "CRYBABY" is the only SNIVLEM album i dont have? . . .
dear god i want to cut myself for being so noob . . .
why god, why . . .
yeah that song rules so fucking hard.
tough to pick a favorite off crybaby but off hand i might go skeleton key. i always kinda thought they were the band who benefited most from that album. intro to them for a whole lot of people and completely out of the park.
this one kinda actually renewed my interest in the melvins when it came out.
Quote from: Androol on January 25, 2007, 09:10:50 PM
yeah that song rules so fucking hard.
tough to pick a favorite off crybaby but off hand i might go skeleton key. i always kinda thought they were the band who benefited most from that album. intro to them for a whole lot of people and completely out of the park.
Mine Is No Disgrace is my favorite song off The Crybaby.
Quote from: norecess on January 26, 2007, 02:04:19 AM
Quote from: Androol on January 25, 2007, 09:10:50 PM
yeah that song rules so fucking hard.
tough to pick a favorite off crybaby but off hand i might go skeleton key. i always kinda thought they were the band who benefited most from that album. intro to them for a whole lot of people and completely out of the park.
Mine Is No Disgrace is my favorite song off The Crybaby.
I'd actually forgotten how much i loved this song.
I've actually been listening to Damp today because of this thread.
Quote from: crow011 on January 25, 2007, 06:35:39 PM
fuck, i just noobed all over myelf . . .
:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
need a towel?
i don't care for the crybaby that much as an album, but "mine is no disgrace," "divorced," and "the man with the laughing hand is dead" are some of my favorite songs. so definitely worth getting.
Spineless, Dry Drunk and Blockbuster are all gems, and i wholeheartedly agree with the popular sentiment that Divorced is completely epic.
Can't sit through the Hank III tracks though.
Quote from: Salty Green on April 01, 2007, 07:39:42 PM
Can't sit through the Hank III tracks though.
wha, wha, what??? aw man, thats good shit. I guess you got to be a small town redneck like me, but I dig the HankIII stuff.
I struggle a little more with the patton song.
After owning this album for 7 years, I just realized I haven't given it the proper attention. Every now and then I get an album, listen to a few tracks, decide I don't like it to much, and it goes on the shelf. Then, years later, I find it, throw it in, and it blows me away. Crybaby is the perfect example. What was I thinkin? Oh yea, It was 7 years ago and I was a moron. Anyhow, I'm pretty blown away by this record. "Mine Is No Disgrace" and "Divorced" are top notch. Actually, the whole record is really fucking good.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 02, 2007, 07:46:33 PM
After owning this album for 7 years, I just realized I haven't given it the proper attention. Every now and then I get an album, listen to a few tracks, decide I don't like it to much, and it goes on the shelf. Then, years later, I find it, throw it in, and it blows me away. Crybaby is the perfect example. What was I thinkin? Oh yea, It was 7 years ago and I was a moron. Anyhow, I'm pretty blown away by this record. "Mine Is No Disgrace" and "Divorced" are top notch. Actually, the whole record is really fucking good.
my exact experience with Honky.
My favorite album.
'gi joe' is the only one I don't like. I don't always listen to hank III. all the other songs are solid gold in my ears. I can't believe more people don't seem to like the godzik pink part! I just listened to 'divorced' last night with earphones and it was like hearing it for the first time.
I was just listening to this album again and noticed the bass line from 'The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead' is exactly the same as the bass in 'A History Of Bad Men', just slowed down and minus the distortion. :o
Yep, I knew that :)
crybaby was the first melvins cd i bought, so i didn't quite like it as much as the others back then.
Quote from: rictus on April 22, 2008, 02:15:32 PM
I was just listening to this album again and noticed the bass line from 'The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead' is exactly the same as the bass in 'A History Of Bad Men', just slowed down and minus the distortion. :o
A glimpse of that riff appears much earlier in the Melvin's career too. Have a listen to Vile on Ozma.
Mine is no disgrace is an amazing song.
The whole album just rules my ass off. every little bit of it. Its like the retarded down syndromed little sister who can see and hear everything but can only communicate Her genius mind with a handful of people.
Quote from: Uncle Fester on May 19, 2008, 12:32:51 PM
Mine is no disgrace is an amazing song.
The whole album just rules my ass off. every little bit of it. Its like the retarded down syndromed little sister who can see and hear everything but can only communicate its genius mind with a handful of people.
Why are you calling your sister an it?
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 19, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: Uncle Fester on May 19, 2008, 12:32:51 PM
Mine is no disgrace is an amazing song.
The whole album just rules my ass off. every little bit of it. Its like the retarded down syndromed little sister who can see and hear everything but can only communicate its genius mind with a handful of people.
Why are you calling your sister an it?
:lol:What are you talking about? I would never call my sister an IT.
The Crybaby ranks below all other Melvins albums.
really? just curious... why does it rank below all other albums?
during the drum solos at the end of Divorced you can easily say Dale is on the left 8)
Quote from: uncle fester on October 01, 2008, 01:02:45 PM
really? just curious... why does it rank below all other albums?
It is the only album that features songs *cough*
Gi Joe *cough* that
I don't like -
that's why.
have the same problem with that song
Many Patton fans bought Crybaby because of that song.
I bought Crybaby because of Leif. :oops:
Quote from: SpaceFarm on June 18, 2009, 07:23:12 AM
I bought Crybaby because of Leif. :oops:
this sounds cool to me Farm,don't be embarassed
ever watch him on "worlds dumbest..."? fucking hilarious!
Other than the cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit, the Crybaby is a pretty damn good album. Love The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead and Divorced the most
N00b
I just put on The Crybaby.
I've never heard it before!
:D :shock: :shock:
:shock:
:shock: :D :D
Chilled to this todaaaaaayy.
*thumbs up*
and again this early morn.
G.I. Joe
Just listened to this for the first time in ages and my oh my is it a mixed bag. Some fantastic songs yet painfully some dire ones. Its a nice idea to involve lots of collaborators but for us that love the sound of the band these other elements push the songs into areas that i (at least for me) really dislike. Wish it looked more like this:
1. Blockbuster
2. Mine Is No Disgrace
3. Divorced
4. The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead
5. Moon Pie
Quote from: (((O))) on September 07, 2010, 05:34:06 AM
Just listened to this for the first time in ages and my oh my is it a mixed bag. Some fantastic songs yet painfully some dire ones. Its a nice idea to involve lots of collaborators but for us that love the sound of the band these other elements push the songs into areas that i (at least for me) really dislike. Wish it looked more like this:
1. Blockbuster
2. Mine Is No Disgrace
3. Divorced
4. Dry Drunk
5. Moon Pie
Hmmm, I love all the songs on this except Mine Is No Disgrace. For some reason his voice annoys the hell out of me! I don't skip it, though. Everything in moderation!
Quote from: jules on September 07, 2010, 07:45:26 AM
Hmmm, I love all the songs on this except Mine Is No Disgrace. For some reason his voice annoys the hell out of me!
Yeah i know what you mean, especially during the "..and i feel i could rape a nun" bit. Love the chorus and everything tho. As cool as that song is i always imagine that had Buzzo sang it instead it would be one of THE upmost greatest Melvins tunes ever. They should play it live me thinks.
It's all about the country tunes, boy.
Quote from: (((O))) on September 07, 2010, 09:48:38 AM
Quote from: jules on September 07, 2010, 07:45:26 AM
Hmmm, I love all the songs on this except Mine Is No Disgrace. For some reason his voice annoys the hell out of me!
Yeah i know what you mean, especially during the "..and i feel i could rape a nun" bit. Love the chorus and everything tho. As cool as that song is i always imagine that had Buzzo sang it instead it would be one of THE upmost greatest Melvins tunes ever. They should play it live me thinks.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bEGvu4VNi6Y/TGgEviWNloI/AAAAAAAADX8/lI0MrbvsbRY/s1600/naughty-nun.jpg)
Quote from: Justafilthylurker on September 09, 2010, 08:05:13 AM
It's all about the country tunes, boy.
THIS.
i revisited this album after a loooong time of not listening to it.. i'd forgotten how good it is. but man, those hank III tunes, fucking hell are they great!
yeah,GI Joe sucks though,the song with Foetus is amazing as for the man with laughing hand is dead.amen
I never gave this album much of a chance, so I just gave Divorced a proper listen for the first time...... :shock: :shock: :shock:
What else have I been missing in my life? That song is fucking awesome.
Quote from: kdools on June 23, 2012, 12:33:26 AM
I never gave this album much of a chance, so I just gave Divorced a proper listen for the first time...... :shock: :shock: :shock:
What else have I been missing in my life? That song is fucking awesome.
That
IS the most fantastic song on there. One of the Melvins very, very best too i think. Im not too keen on the rest of the album on the whole tho.
Divorced is the clear highlight of the album. It's REALLY good. And the title comes from what Dale was going through at the time.
From skimming through this thread, it seems most people don't like GI Joe, but I really like that one and it's one of my favorites. I really like Mine Is No Disgrace, Moon Pie, and The Man With The Laughing Hand Is Dead (it's pointed out every once in awhile, but for those who don't know, the bass line is the exact same bass line from A History Of Bad Men). Spineless has some interesting percussion sounds and a cool solo from Buzz. I just don't dig the country tunes.
THOUGHTS:
Great album, if you don't get it I feel bad for you. It is not going to scratch the Melvin itch too much, but I wonder if people who warmed up to "Sausages" might come back and revisit this. I love the Trilogy in its entirety and i bought this at release and was really into most of it right off the bat.
First three songs are all covers... not just covers... tributes. One of the hardest things for me to get over was Teen Spirit. As a Nirvana fan I thought this was a poor choice for a long time. (You can't improve on that original mix/recording! The melody is simplified and not in a good way. Are they taking the piss out? Or is this sincere? They have access to Kurt legacy no one else does... Why not do a rare tune or a fecal matter tune?) But then I listened to it as Dale's tribute to Dave's drumming and it all makes sense. Dale slays here.
"Ramblin' Man" might be one of the best recordings in the Melvins catalog for me. The vocal tone, the clarity of the instruments, it feels so alive and intimate. It impresses me every time I hear it. It is not very melvinsy - except that it challenges your definition of melvinsy.
"Mine Is No Disgrace" and "Divorced" are the endless listening gems of the record. Thirwell's voice took a bit of getting used to, but the lyrics are perfectly disturbing and the music is outstanding. "Divorced" taps into that 'terrifying' quality of the album Honky and focuses it through a creative arrangement and mix.
"GI Joe" and "Spineless" seem to be the two tracks that live on their own, completely dependent on whether you're a fan of the guest artist or not. In this case I own the skeleton key and patton catalogs so I am pleased, but I can see how someone who dislikes these artists would be displeased. You can hear plenty of Dale on "Spineless" although it's the garbage sounds that own this one's percussion. GI Joe on the other hand is basically a Mike Patton original. I'd love to hear the seven minute Kevin bass vomit with Buzz/Dale noise on top that the Melvins originally gave to patton. Maybe this will surface some day on an amrep linocut single...
And that is the album... If you go by the Trilogy vinyl track listing. Seven songs. So thinking about the four additional songs on the CD as a bonus EP is my preferred approach. Maggot + Yow vs Prick = "Dry Drunk". "Okie" a bonus Hank tribute. "Man With" a ten minute dirge that also taps into some of the Honky type terror, which maybe drags on a little too long but is forgiven.
And finally "Moon Pie" possibly the track that takes the longest time to grow on you. I probably heard this album ten times through before I even really noticed this track was here. Took a long time but I love it. The start/ stop of noises is addictive. The redneck performance is mixed a little distant but that makes it fun once you know to tune into this.
Anyway... I hope this helps anyone struggling to enjoy this album. There's no Buzz vocal through most of it... but I think we are all learning that the melvins is not about who is on the mic. It does play off a bit like a mix tape at first but all in all the sequencing is perfect and the recording is excellent and the songs are all essential to the whole experience.
Great review, Amazon. I've never been much of a fan of the album save the Hank III songs. I haven't listened to it in years. Reading your review rekindled my interest. I'm going to Amoeba Hollywood today and I know what I'll be listening to on the way down.
:cheers:
Okie From Muskogee - Merle Haggard. That is all.
And G.I. Joe rules. Now that is all.
YEAH BUT SOBRIETY'Ssssss BORING AS FUCK
Maynard doesn't sound like himself when singing divorced.
I thought Maynard is only in the phone call at the end... I that whisper+distortion could be Buzz.
Listening to this one for the first time in quite a while i have to say i have been way too harsh on this in the past. It's actually a really fantastic Melvins record even if it doesn't always feel like a Melvins record in parts. But that is something that i find so great about this too - it's depth and widening out into these different acts. Same goes for 'Everybody Loves Sausages' to me also. Both these albums i mostly disliked initially and now enjoy a great deal.
Looking back at my old rating, i'd be tempted to give this one a 9 now too! Certainly a 8.5 at least!
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 22, 2017, 08:17:43 AM
The Maggot - 9
The Bootlicker - 9
The Crybaby - 7