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well, i don't know much about other types of tunings, i always used the traditional EADGBe/DADGBe.
i also use quite a heavy gauge guitar pick and tend to play the electric as if it were an acoustic...

i keep seeing references to a "drop C" but i still don't know what you mean exactly... dropped like CADGBe?
it is possible that buzz is playing the songs on POTRE in that tuning, but i'd like to believe that he's playing in CGCFAd. (which is the same thing as drop D like tool, but all 6 strings are tuned down 1 whole step, which is 2 frets lower.)

POTRE the song is in dropped D down one whole step. (that's what they're calling it.)
this puts your 6 strings at CGCFAD.
if you attempt this tuning with regular light gauge 10-46 strings and are satisfied then either something unique about your instrument is allowing this to happen or you just don't mind that your guitar strings are sagging off the fretboard.

the 12-56 strings i got were too big for the grooves in the graphite nut on the guitar neck, and bridge, but i had them filed down to widen them a bit to accomodate the fatter strings.
this threw off the "intonation" a tad, so the trussrod inside the neck is turned with an allen wrench to achieve perfect intonation with a strobe tuner.
it was all less than $50. and i have no experience with adjusting intonation.

i know, if i was playing in drop D i would be using 11-52 strings and of course that works fine on any guitar.
i am not sure what you mean by drop A and C?
are you talking about the same thing as standard B and standard D?
i have a feeling you mean drop only the big E string down to an A or C while the other 5 strings remain the same ADGBE.
i have no desire to play in such a tuning and that isn't what i was talking about.


PS: i used to have a crappy squire strat that i put the 12-56 strings on and i tuned it 2 whole steps down to standard C (also drop D down 2 whole steps [A#]) it sounded almost decent but still the strings will fluctuate in and out of tune too much, bend too easily, sound muddy, buzz on the frets, and sound especially "loose" sounding.
i also have a very aggressive style of playing, so i need my strings to remain rigid and not bend too much.

i already saw that wikipedia entry, (thanks though) i was hoping that there were more songs in that tuning than were listed there.

also, i had the impression that buzz's "dropped A" was AADGBE so it's only one string that needs to be at least a 56 gauge. (i'd personally use a 65 gauge for anything lower than B, but that may require getting a baritone guitar for some people)

for tuning all the strings on my les paul down one whole step to standard D, i took the guitar to a professional Luthier who adjusted the bridge, trussrod & nut, and i put some Ernie Ball 2626 "Not Even Slinkys" on there (12-16-24p-32-44-56).
this is pretty much as low as i would recommend tuning these strings, i met someone who said they used the same strings to tune down TWO whole steps to standard C, (plus dropping the big string down to an A#) he must have a specially made guitar for that, cuz i saw his guitar and the neck was not a longer scale baritone model either.

if i tried that on my les paul it would be like spaghetti strings on my fretboard.

IMO, any guitar tuning lower than standard D (such as standard C#) will require a baritone guitar with a longer scale neck and strings such as .013-.017-.024-.042-.056-.065.... http://www.guitarcenter.com/Everly-9113-X-Rockers-Lo-Tune-Drop-C-Electric-Guitar-Strings-106054-i1123312.gc

I'm pretty sure The Fool, The Meddling Idiot is tuned down to a dropped A. Just like Boris, Koollegged and possibly others.

Das ist correct. One Tool song and some songs and Fugazi: Red Medicine. I love a bit of drop A.

Tool has 3 songs in "dropped B" (BADGBE) or (BEDGBE)... but none lower than that.
(prison sex, parabol & parabola)

[The Bloated Pope]

The Bloated Pope

tune down to C

riff 1
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0-0---0---00-1-0-0-0---0---00----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-----0-0-3-----

riff 2
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0--0-0--3---3-33-55555556---6-66------6---6-66------6-5-6-3--

you mean tune down all your strings down a whole step to standard D, then drop the big string to a C for "dropped D one whole step down" tuning.. lmfao
i just learned what to call it finally, but its more fun to say "drop C".

all the music on POTRE appears to be in this tuning, thank allah, for this happens to be the tuning my Epiphone les paul is always in!

okay, I dont know much about tuning...

I play C# drop myself (I was told this actually, cause it wasnt until recent that I got a tuning box )
and when I do that I tune all the strings down , first the string to D# then the rest like when you tune in standard.
then I tune the E string to C#.

that's called "drop D half step down" tuning.
alot of bands i like use that one, breaking benjamin, nirvana, 10 years, evans blue, strata, 30 seconds to mars, deftones

i guess i put this in the wrong section... hehe

i recently found out buzz has a guitar tuned to CGCFAD for safety third and POTRE, manky & AMAZON, also songs from ASA and nude with boots.... anyone else know anything about this cuz thats what my guitar is tuned in and i would love to be able to jam along with the CD's.

actually, Tom is the one who taught adam how to play guitar, and Buzz inspired adam to take it a little further.

Depending on where you read this its either adam taught tom or tom taught adam.
But they where in a band together called electric sheep.

when they were in school together in chicago, IL they had that band, adam was the bass player for electric sheep, with Tom on guitar. it was during those times that Tom was teaching him guitar tricks & stuff, how to manipulate distortion.
Tom was probably playing guitar for years way before Adam even started playing bass.

I think the pretentious twats take the cake for the most annoying people you could ever meet. I know all these guys that sit around in a garage and trip balls on whatever hallucinogen they can find and try to find the "meaning" of the latest Tool offering. Then you try to introduce them to music that's not tool and it's "irrelevant" and "meaningless" compared to Maynard's "lyrical genius" or whatever other crap they have to say.

you sound a little bitter... are you saying that listening to Tool desensitizes people?
i thought Tool was supposed to be waking us up from desensitization.

i wouldnt say people who don't get Tool are stupid, they are just different.
i mean, everyone can't be perfect... lol

to me Tool is like pink floyd or led zeppelin, Tool is the ultimate journey into the rhythmic landscapes of Danny Carey & Adam Jones (2 main members).
overall the band belongs to Adam.
if you ask him, he'll tell you the same thing.

Tool fans are not Tool.
if you judge the band by their fans then you are ignorant anyways.

i really hate all those pretentious ones too, i doubt maynard is one of those ones.

COD

COD doesn't even count... it's not even really melvins until eyeflys comes on at the end and thats a great live version.
adam jones probably had control over alot of the COD stuff cuz back then it was called Noiseland Arcade.

i am stumped...

box sets piss me off
i mean they're cool and all, but it makes stupid ass rich kids look like they're die hard melvins fans when they have no ideaaaa

they're nice because you get it all for a cheaper price

what the hell? dude... if the box set were for rich kids, why is it also nice that it's all for a cheaper price?
what a contradiction.

i hate stupid ass rich kids too, but i have never felt insecure in my pride of being the #1 melvins FAN in the solar system.

I don't know why stuff like this bugs me, but it does. It isn't Buzz. There 's no chance. The accent isn't the same, the tone isn't the same. It isn't Buzz. I'd bet a hundred bucks on it in a second.

it does sound kind of like danny talking to maynard..
but of course i always thought it was obviously prolly buzz

didn't maynard also do the "little pig, little pig, let me in..." line from Green Jelly's 3 Little Pigs?

I think he did the "not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin" part.

don't you think that part sounds like jello?