melvins use CGCFAD tuning in some songs??

[FartLips]

(which is the same thing as drop D like tool, but all 6 strings are tuned down 1 whole step, which is 2 frets lower.)

there ya go! i tune all of the strings at least a full 2 steps lower.  it helps that i use a fixed bridge, its a gibson lp double cutaway.  i originally got the idea though to drop all the strings from stephen carpenter of the deftones. he has a 7 string esp where the low D is dropped to A and the rest are done correspondingly.

[VaticanShotglass]

Also, never adjust the truss rod to change pitch.  Adjust it to attain proper straightness and adjust the bridge to attain proper intonation (that said proper intonation may require a properly set truss rod).  In other words if the neck is properly straight it would be so most all tunings (though a drastic change in string tension may affect neck change).  Whatever I think I just confused myself, I know it when I'm doing it. 

On my strat I get two steps down fine with .11's.  I also used to get it fine with my les paul copy.  Yes it is slacker, but that is a part of the sound that I like.  I think intonation can stray a bit as you move around on the neck, but if you have a guitar set to it semi-permanently it should be no problem to set the intonation properly for the lower tuning.  Dropping the E to an A sounds a little flabby but that is part of why Boris sounds so evil.

[Metalhead Cow]

I was the guy who wrote that wikipedia entry. I forgot about that, haha. I'm pretty sure those are all the Melvins songs in drop C tuning, so not a whole lot. There aren't any songs in drop C off Nude With Boots. To the guy who was confused about drop C tuning, I just meant CGCFAD. When the Melvins play drop A, Buzz only tunes the low E down to A, so the strings are tuned to AADGBE. This tuning is used on Boris, Kooleged, The Fool, The Meddling Idiot, Dog Island, and Nude With Boots.

I don't know if anyone here listens to the death metal band Nile, but they tune to AEADF#B. I think that's right... Anyway, it's the full-0n drop A tuning. very low,with a kickass, heavy sound.

[FartLips]

the question is what does meshuggah tune to? the depths of hell perhaps?

[Melvinsaniac]

the question is what does meshuggah tune to? the depths of hell perhaps?

From Wiki-

"Fredrik Thordendal and Marten Hagstrom of Meshuggah tune their 8 string guitars F,Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,Gb,Bb,Eb"


THE DEPTHS OF HELL INDEED!

[FartLips]

the question is what does meshuggah tune to? the depths of hell perhaps?

From Wiki-

"Fredrik Thordendal and Marten Hagstrom of Meshuggah tune their 8 string guitars F,Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,Gb,Bb,Eb"


THE DEPTHS OF HELL INDEED!

HAIL 8-STRINGS!

[Metalhead Cow]

yeah, Meshugga's crazy low!

[The Fool]

Yeah- even my 7 string sounds high compared to Meshuggah.

Trevor said Buzz's (three) gtrs are all tuned differently.
One for the E/drop D, one a whole step down for the D/drop C stuff, but I can't remember what the other one was...
Not sure which he uses for the drop A songs like Boris and Dog Island etc., but I'm pretty sure that you guys are all onto that already!

Having a 7string, I just play all their songs in different positions and drop the low B to A for Boris and Dog Island, though I do use my 6string for the E/drop D stuff sometimes just to make things easier.

[FartLips]

Yeah- even my 7 string sounds high compared to Meshuggah.

Trevor said Buzz's (three) gtrs are all tuned differently.
One for the E/drop D, one a whole step down for the D/drop C stuff, but I can't remember what the other one was...
Not sure which he uses for the drop A songs like Boris and Dog Island etc., but I'm pretty sure that you guys are all onto that already!

Having a 7string, I just play all their songs in different positions and drop the low B to A for Boris and Dog Island, though I do use my 6string for the E/drop D stuff sometimes just to make things easier.

i've never seen buzz change guitars during a show unless he breaks a string.  he detunes on the spot as well.

[Andy]

Yeah- even my 7 string sounds high compared to Meshuggah.

Trevor said Buzz's (three) gtrs are all tuned differently.
One for the E/drop D, one a whole step down for the D/drop C stuff, but I can't remember what the other one was...
Not sure which he uses for the drop A songs like Boris and Dog Island etc., but I'm pretty sure that you guys are all onto that already!

Having a 7string, I just play all their songs in different positions and drop the low B to A for Boris and Dog Island, though I do use my 6string for the E/drop D stuff sometimes just to make things easier.

i've never seen buzz change guitars during a show unless he breaks a string.  he detunes on the spot as well.

I think he means Fantomas innit guvnah!
Also those POTRE songs are perfectly playable with drop C, you just have to be a bit crafty

[FartLips]

Yeah- even my 7 string sounds high compared to Meshuggah.

Trevor said Buzz's (three) gtrs are all tuned differently.
One for the E/drop D, one a whole step down for the D/drop C stuff, but I can't remember what the other one was...
Not sure which he uses for the drop A songs like Boris and Dog Island etc., but I'm pretty sure that you guys are all onto that already!

Having a 7string, I just play all their songs in different positions and drop the low B to A for Boris and Dog Island, though I do use my 6string for the E/drop D stuff sometimes just to make things easier.

i've never seen buzz change guitars during a show unless he breaks a string.  he detunes on the spot as well.

I think he means Fantomas innit guvnah!
Also those POTRE songs are perfectly playable with drop C, you just have to be a bit crafty

maybe he did, but he mentioned boris and dog island, the latter fantomas didn't perform.

[The Fool]

Yeah- even my 7 string sounds high compared to Meshuggah.

Trevor said Buzz's (three) gtrs are all tuned differently.
One for the E/drop D, one a whole step down for the D/drop C stuff, but I can't remember what the other one was...
Not sure which he uses for the drop A songs like Boris and Dog Island etc., but I'm pretty sure that you guys are all onto that already!

Having a 7string, I just play all their songs in different positions and drop the low B to A for Boris and Dog Island, though I do use my 6string for the E/drop D stuff sometimes just to make things easier.

i've never seen buzz change guitars during a show unless he breaks a string.  he detunes on the spot as well.

I think he means Fantomas innit guvnah!
Also those POTRE songs are perfectly playable with drop C, you just have to be a bit crafty

maybe he did, but he mentioned boris and dog island, the latter fantomas didn't perform.

Yeah, sorry bout that!
I guess he changes gtrs in Fantomas since there's no time to tune between songs.

[FartLips]

Yeah- even my 7 string sounds high compared to Meshuggah.

Trevor said Buzz's (three) gtrs are all tuned differently.
One for the E/drop D, one a whole step down for the D/drop C stuff, but I can't remember what the other one was...
Not sure which he uses for the drop A songs like Boris and Dog Island etc., but I'm pretty sure that you guys are all onto that already!

Having a 7string, I just play all their songs in different positions and drop the low B to A for Boris and Dog Island, though I do use my 6string for the E/drop D stuff sometimes just to make things easier.

i've never seen buzz change guitars during a show unless he breaks a string.  he detunes on the spot as well.

I think he means Fantomas innit guvnah!
Also those POTRE songs are perfectly playable with drop C, you just have to be a bit crafty

maybe he did, but he mentioned boris and dog island, the latter fantomas didn't perform.

Yeah, sorry bout that!
I guess he changes gtrs in Fantomas since there's no time to tune between songs.

but you are right about fantomas. i remember on one of the vids where buzz switches to an sg.

[The Fool]

...Remember- I am The Fool! 

BTW, my 7string is an ESP. They are the only ones who make (or made?) them apart from Ibanez, but who wants a 'handle' cut into the body?!? Plus the ESP's have a fixed bridge 

[FartLips]

...Remember- I am The Fool! 

BTW, my 7string is an ESP. They are the only ones who make (or made?) them apart from Ibanez, but who wants a 'handle' cut into the body?!? Plus the ESP's have a fixed bridge 

yeah i want one of those too. is it a stephen carpenter model?