Q&A with Buzzo on the phoenix.com

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ManWithNoName

Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 06, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
Yeah they will survive...that's a great way to rationalize thievery. It's not the music industry's fault.
You're like a liberal idealist who refuses to recognize reality. Ironic, isn't it?

Metalhead Cow

Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 06, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
Yeah they will survive...that's a great way to rationalize thievery. It's not the music industry's fault.

What is this theivery you're talking about? I don't understand how the Melvins have apparently ripped you off so bad.

Dr.Benway

I chose to pay $50 for the Bride lp, I chose to pay $200 for the Ipecac box set, I chose not to pay $25 for the Black Betty 7".  That said, what will keep me from buying future "pieces of art" is not the price, it's that I'm tired of having to camp out in front of the computer for the super secret release info. to get posted in some obscure place only to have it sell out before I can get the page to load and other similar hurdles.  If this is the future of Melvins releases do a fucking presale and offer it to EVERYONE that wants one, make enough to fill the presale and obviously make a few extras for tour or to put in the AmRep shop.

ManWithNoName

I agree. It seems like the Melvins are shooting themselves in the foot by limiting some of these releases and not selling them online.

Was the Ipecac box set even available online?

John Schuller

Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 06, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
Yeah they will survive...that's a great way to rationalize thievery. It's not the music industry's fault.

How am I rationalizing thievery? I am just stating that it is "how it is" now.

John Schuller

Quote from: Dr.Benway on June 06, 2011, 10:50:12 PM
I chose to pay $50 for the Bride lp, I chose to pay $200 for the Ipecac box set, I chose not to pay $25 for the Black Betty 7".  That said, what will keep me from buying future "pieces of art" is not the price, it's that I'm tired of having to camp out in front of the computer for the super secret release info. to get posted in some obscure place only to have it sell out before I can get the page to load and other similar hurdles.  If this is the future of Melvins releases do a fucking presale and offer it to EVERYONE that wants one, make enough to fill the presale and obviously make a few extras for tour or to put in the AmRep shop.

Your presale idea is a good idea.

John Schuller

Quote from: ManWithNoName on June 06, 2011, 11:39:02 PM
I agree. It seems like the Melvins are shooting themselves in the foot by limiting some of these releases and not selling them online.

Was the Ipecac box set even available online?

They may still get those online. I think almost all of the albums in the box set are available online, but not as a package.

rimb

I think what they could do, especially with something like the Endless Residency boxsets, is to take pre-orders for the set for say, a month, and then produce the sets to order.

This way anyone that wants one is able to get one and they can still charge $50 or whatever they want for them and they'll only maufacture and sell as many as have been ordered.

What sucks about how they've done it at the moment, is that these are selling for about $150 on eBay for those who can't get to the shows or even those who go to the show and miss out on one.

tinnitus photo

Quote from: rimb on June 07, 2011, 08:20:30 AM
I think what they could do, especially with something like the Endless Residency boxsets, is to take pre-orders for the set for say, a month, and then produce the sets to order.

This way anyone that wants one is able to get one and they can still charge $50 or whatever they want for them and they'll only maufacture and sell as many as have been ordered.

What sucks about how they've done it at the moment, is that these are selling for about $150 on eBay for those who can't get to the shows or even those who go to the show and miss out on one.

they could talk w/ Cory for some ideas
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/threelobed/three-lobed-recordings-10th-ann-4xlp-set-sonic-you

Chief Ten Beers

I agree with almost everything Buzz said there.
I'll pay $25 for a limited ed. CD if that becomes the case, but not $20 for ONE SONG(Black Betty). And they're charging double that for the BSM AmRep LP. Sorry, a 45 minute studio album is not worth $50 to me, no matter what the artwork is.

(((O)))

Well i might be crazy but i'd be more than willing to shell out up to $60 for a 45min album from a band i truely loved and i wouldnt care about the packaging. Sure it would be a rip off but what the hell when it's something i would adore. Probably wouldn't pay $20 for one song tho unless it was either amazing or a 10+ minute epic.

Mad Arab

Quote from: ManWithNoName on June 06, 2011, 09:36:40 PM
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 06, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
Yeah they will survive...that's a great way to rationalize thievery. It's not the music industry's fault.
You're like a liberal idealist who refuses to recognize reality. Ironic, isn't it?
Oh I recognize the reality of it and I don't sugar coat it. It's because of thieves. Breaking copyright laws just to have that fix. Not caring who it affects. It affects more than just the band and their means of living. But the fix is more important.

John Schuller

uh yeah. it is reality now. been this way for awhile. get used to it.

andy the angry bald man

"the general public-- and I love to generalize-- the general public is wrong about almost every single thing. "

best fucking quote ever.

acid policy

"We might be able to do one more album in a traditional sense."

Fuck! I don't think it's only the theieving assholery, the recession has got to be pinning down album sales. Countries in Europe are defaulting on international bailouts, the US military predicts peak oil now, etc. Things will hopefully be better in the future, but what good is the future if all your stuff that people want is out of stock? I hope they find a way to continue doing albums, or at least some similar amount of output.