Buzzo on Red Eye

[FartLips]

I never watch fox and still see the loads of horseshit passed as news by CNN, ABC, etc. But alas,  lots of opinion here and no fact. Libertarians are socially liberal and financially conservative. I think of it as the best of both worlds. Its for all those fuckers who want entitlement bloodsuckers to get a job yet not be harrassed for being a different color or sexual orientation. Very moral IMHO.

[Mad Arab]

People complain about one news channel while there are myriad alternatives.  A Libertarian ought to welcome the competition.

[FartLips]

People complain about one news channel while there are myriad alternatives.  A Libertarian ought to welcome the competition.

It's hardcore liberals that don't. Lol!

[Braykfast]

Anyone here ever read 1984 by Orwell? Remember the Two Minute Hate channel they all had to watch?

And punk rock is music. Ann Coulter is tone deaf. But if you find musicality in her illuminating presence, then Anarchy in the UK, brother. Rock the Casbah. Wait a minute...if Green Day offends me, are they punk rock? What about Taliban fanatics? Are tehy punk rock? They are pretty offensive. What about Black Militants and Flat Earth Society members? Punk Rock? That terrible music in elevators?

[ConcertFreak]

Highest rated news channel. You have one 24 news channel that features conservative shows and then you have NBC CBS CNN MSNBC among others and you are complaining. Maybe Fox News meets a demand? Could that be why they are the highest rated news channel?

It's got nothing to do with them being "conservative" Yes, the rest of the mainstream news outlets are shit, but Fox is that extra evil paint peeling kind that you drop like maybe once every other month where you swear a demon must have crawled up your butt and died.

Everyone reading this please (if you don't already) check out www.democracynow.org for daily news casts from around the world brought to you by people who actually care about you as fellow human beings.

[TheLegitMan93]

That terrible music in elevators?

Yes, totally punk. 

[supernaut]

Libertarianism is of the Right my friend. That Penn magician is clearly a right-winger and it's obvious he's a Libertarian. Anyone into laissez-faire economics, small government (hate welfare for the poor), anti-Unions, tax minimization/tax evasion etc is IMO morally bankrupt.

No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism

[Bigval]

No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism

Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page. 

[Bigval]

Highest rated news channel. You have one 24 news channel that features conservative shows and then you have NBC CBS CNN MSNBC among others and you are complaining. Maybe Fox News meets a demand? Could that be why they are the highest rated news channel?

It's got nothing to do with them being "conservative" Yes, the rest of the mainstream news outlets are shit, but Fox is that extra evil paint peeling kind that you drop like maybe once every other month where you swear a demon must have crawled up your butt and died.

Everyone reading this please (if you don't already) check out www.democracynow.org for daily news casts from around the world brought to you by people who actually care about you as fellow human beings.

Exactly, there is a reason the other news organisations are respected internationally and Rupert's Fox News is a punchline all around the world. Fox News is just his most extreme vehicle, look at how much credibility News Corp have around the world from tapping celebrities and politicians phones in England (News of the World) to the editor of his far-right The Australian newspaper receiving an award for excellence in reporting from a lobby group representing the oil & gas exploration industries. That's not even taking into account all the billions he's cost News Corp shareholders or the products he's run into the ground like Myspace.

[(((O)))]

Didn't Mark Prindle get into a fight with Greg, so they kicked him off, and banned him from Red Eye?

Mark Prindle and Red Eye were sooooo made for each other. 

[MrLuck87]

No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism

Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page. 

It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said.  Piss off.

[FartLips]

No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism

Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page. 

It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said.  Piss off.

ahhh the ideal liberal mind!

[MrLuck87]

No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism

Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page. 

It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said.  Piss off.

ahhh the ideal liberal mind!

Hey dude are you going to any of the Georgia Big Business or Harvey Milk shows next month?

[Bigval]

It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said.  Piss off.

Don't go spitting the dummy on a forum because you made an ass of yourself, mate.

[MrLuck87]

Being a right winger and libertarian are two completely different things.

This was really the only bit worth responding to:

Traditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists.[2][3][4][5] The Right includes conservatives, libertarians, plutocrats, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists and fascists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics

Libertarianism is of the Right my friend. That Penn magician is clearly a right-winger and it's obvious he's a Libertarian. Anyone into laissez-faire economics, small government (hate welfare for the poor), anti-Unions, tax minimization/tax evasion etc is IMO morally bankrupt.

Here's a link from a credible source http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0706b.asp.  *I'm having trouble getting the link to work.  Google "is libertarian right or left" and it should be the first link.

"Is libertarianism of the Left or of the Right? We often avoid this question with a resounding