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Dr.Benway

Quote from: monts on July 31, 2011, 07:03:58 AM
Quote from: xaiool on July 30, 2011, 09:49:37 PM
That's not capitalism.  It's mercantilism.  Read a book.
Actually it would be better to say it's commercialism (a heavy emphasis on profit).  Read a book?  Don't be a ass.

I would call it profiteering. 

Look, a lot of us have bought multiples of something rare and desireable with the idea of keeping one and selling one to cover costs.  Going to a show and buying a half dozen copies with the sole purpose of selling them on ebay at 200% profit is shady at best.  Creating multiple user names at the AmRep board for the purpose of getting in on the "only available to boardies" merch. just to sell them on ebay for 200% profit is down right rotten.  And like it has been said, she goes out of her way to let everyone know shes doing it, thats being a cunt. 

oldernie

Quote from: Dr.Benway on July 31, 2011, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: monts on July 31, 2011, 07:03:58 AM
Quote from: xaiool on July 30, 2011, 09:49:37 PM
That's not capitalism.  It's mercantilism.  Read a book.
Actually it would be better to say it's commercialism (a heavy emphasis on profit).  Read a book?  Don't be a ass.

I would call it profiteering. 

Look, a lot of us have bought multiples of something rare and desireable with the idea of keeping one and selling one to cover costs.  Going to a show and buying a half dozen copies with the sole purpose of selling them on ebay at 200% profit is shady at best.  Creating multiple user names at the AmRep board for the purpose of getting in on the "only available to boardies" merch. just to sell them on ebay for 200% profit is down right rotten.  And like it has been said, she goes out of her way to let everyone know shes doing it, thats being a cunt. 

i couldnt have put it better myself, probly because im some kind of retarded english homo.
"To be honest i've kind of gone off the band a bit now. I just like to hang out on here because of everyone else."
-jules from brighton quoting - Ian from Staffs.

monts

Quote from: Dr.Benway on July 31, 2011, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: monts on July 31, 2011, 07:03:58 AM
Quote from: xaiool on July 30, 2011, 09:49:37 PM
That's not capitalism.  It's mercantilism.  Read a book.
Actually it would be better to say it's commercialism (a heavy emphasis on profit).  Read a book?  Don't be a ass.

I would call it profiteering.  

Look, a lot of us have bought multiples of something rare and desireable with the idea of keeping one and selling one to cover costs.  Going to a show and buying a half dozen copies with the sole purpose of selling them on ebay at 200% profit is shady at best.  Creating multiple user names at the AmRep board for the purpose of getting in on the "only available to boardies" merch. just to sell them on ebay for 200% profit is down right rotten.  And like it has been said, she goes out of her way to let everyone know shes doing it, thats being a cunt.  
You're correct.  I agree with  you completely.

bgpurzycki

Sorry for being "a ass".  I'm just interested in this "debate" but tire of the pedantry and the concern for merely appearing to care about truth (i.e., bullshit).

There's a lot of arbitrary moralizing and rationalizing going on here.  Why the moral line drawn between "buying multiple copies to sell in order to pay for one's own copy" and creative multiple identities?  PinkySlim rationalizes her behavior in the same way as most people here do:  "I do it, it's okay, lots of other people do it, that's American capitalism!  Yeah!".  First, it isn't capitalism.  And, just because something is doesn't necessarily make it good (naturalistic fallacy).  Second, just because lots of people do it doesn't make it right or excusable (ad populum).  Pointing at more "extreme" examples doesn't minimize the moral responsibility you might bear for doing what you do (red herring) either. 

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with any of the moral positions of what's right that anyone has expressed here at all.  I'm just saying that no one here seems willing to explain their position with good reason.

monts

You took a lot of time to ramble on about .. nothing.   You haven't added anything to this thread, other than pointing out what capitalism is not, and a minor grammatical error.   You appear rather dense and condescending when you miss what people are saying, and nitpick with the literal meanings of certain words, without taking a position one way or the other.  Yes, it is understood that buying multiple copies of limited records only to flip them immediately is not capitalism- you've said it two or three times, and no one is disagreeing.  The point is, it rubs people the wrong way when one person buys multiple copies, only to resell them, and then comes her and acts like a dick about it.

No one really cares if you buy melvins cds and resell them; it's legal.  You just don't have to be an asshole and come here only to rub it in other fans faces, who for one reason or another couldn't buy one at cost.

pinkyslim

Quote from: xaiool on July 31, 2011, 01:59:09 PM
Sorry for being "a ass".  I'm just interested in this "debate" but tire of the pedantry and the concern for merely appearing to care about truth (i.e., bullshit).

There's a lot of arbitrary moralizing and rationalizing going on here.  Why the moral line drawn between "buying multiple copies to sell in order to pay for one's own copy" and creative multiple identities?  PinkySlim rationalizes her behavior in the same way as most people here do:  "I do it, it's okay, lots of other people do it, that's American capitalism!  Yeah!".  First, it isn't capitalism.  And, just because something is doesn't necessarily make it good (naturalistic fallacy).  Second, just because lots of people do it doesn't make it right or excusable (ad populum).  Pointing at more "extreme" examples doesn't minimize the moral responsibility you might bear for doing what you do (red herring) either.  

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with any of the moral positions of what's right that anyone has expressed here at all.  I'm just saying that no one here seems willing to explain their position with good reason.


Bottom line...

My Melvins earnings pay for

1. More Melvins merchandise for personnel collection.
2.  More Melvins merchandise to resell for more $$
*3.  My sons education.  Highest priority... He will be attending a private college prep High School due to my earnings.


Any questions all you have-nots?:lol:

* over 18k  saved  8)

did i mention my husband is 1/2 jew? =D>

pinkyslim

Quote from: xaiool on July 31, 2011, 01:59:09 PM
Sorry for being "a ass".  I'm just interested in this "debate" but tire of the pedantry and the concern for merely appearing to care about truth (i.e., bullshit).

PinkySlim rationalizes her behavior in the same way as most people here do:  "I do it, it's okay, lots of other people do it, that's American capitalism!  Yeah!". 



wrong.

You are talking out of your vagina.


Dr.Benway

Let me put it in terms we can all understand...drug talk.  When you buy a half ounce of smoke for $50 it's understood you're going to sell a quarter to your bud for $30.  They get what they want, you get your quarter cheaper  because you made the call and you met the dude.  If you go out and buy all the smoke in town and start charging four times normal price you're going to piss people off.  Especially if you're talking shit the whole time you're doing it.

pinkyslim

Quote from: Dr.Benway on July 31, 2011, 02:32:57 PM
Let me put it in terms we can all understand...drug talk.  When you buy a half ounce of smoke for $50 it's understood you're going to sell a quarter to your bud for $30.  They get what they want, you get your quarter cheaper  because you made the call and you met the dude.  If you go out and buy all the smoke in town and start charging four times normal price you're going to piss people off.  Especially if you're talking shit the whole time you're doing it.

Can you sell drugs on E-bay internationally where they can't get Gods gift (weed).

Your analogy is pathetic.
Also, who buys a 1/2 ounce. 

Rule number one..Buy in bulk.


bgpurzycki

Quote from: monts on July 31, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
You took a lot of time to ramble on about .. nothing.   You haven't added anything to this thread, other than pointing out what capitalism is not, and a minor grammatical error.   You appear rather dense and condescending when you miss what people are saying, and nitpick with the literal meanings of certain words, without taking a position one way or the other.  Yes, it is understood that buying multiple copies of limited records only to flip them immediately is not capitalism- you've said it two or three times, and no one is disagreeing.  The point is, it rubs people the wrong way when one person buys multiple copies, only to resell them, and then comes her and acts like a dick about it.

No one really cares if you buy melvins cds and resell them; it's legal.  You just don't have to be an asshole and come here only to rub it in other fans faces, who for one reason or another couldn't buy one at cost.

Zoiks!  Relax!  I'm not nitpicking, I'm trying to understand...hence not taking a position.  It's called reason.  Settle down!

I haven't missed what people are saying considering it amounts to zilch.  People are making arguments to justify what they do.  I'm interested in this.  I just would like to see better arguments for it, but I'm not the one making them, I'm trying to understand them.  It'd be nice to do that without being called names.

Yeah, it's upsetting to have people rub it in your face.  But the question is whether or not their actions which they are celebrating are justified.  People express their position here without justification and then people say "I agree" or "I disagree".  In the latter case, they express a different position but never justify it beyond the level I've pointed out.  If that counts as "a ramble", then egads.  If I've added anything, it's a demand for better reasons.

John Schuller

who cares?

:lol:

I think she is spot on with what she is doing. Plenty of people finance their collections of "things" this way.

pinkyslim

Quote from: xaiool on July 31, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: monts on July 31, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
You took a lot of time to ramble on about .. nothing.   You haven't added anything to this thread, other than pointing out what capitalism is not, and a minor grammatical error.   You appear rather dense and condescending when you miss what people are saying, and nitpick with the literal meanings of certain words, without taking a position one way or the other.  Yes, it is understood that buying multiple copies of limited records only to flip them immediately is not capitalism- you've said it two or three times, and no one is disagreeing.  The point is, it rubs people the wrong way when one person buys multiple copies, only to resell them, and then comes her and acts like a dick about it.

No one really cares if you buy melvins cds and resell them; it's legal.  You just don't have to be an asshole and come here only to rub it in other fans faces, who for one reason or another couldn't buy one at cost.

Zoiks!  Relax!  I'm not nitpicking, I'm trying to understand...hence not taking a position.  It's called reason.  Settle down!

I haven't missed what people are saying considering it amounts to zilch.  People are making arguments to justify what they do.  I'm interested in this.  I just would like to see better arguments for it, but I'm not the one making them, I'm trying to understand them.  It'd be nice to do that without being called names.

Yeah, it's upsetting to have people rub it in your face.  But the question is whether or not their actions which they are celebrating are justified.  People express their position here without justification and then people say "I agree" or "I disagree".  In the latter case, they express a different position but never justify it beyond the level I've pointed out.  If that counts as "a ramble", then egads.  If I've added anything, it's a demand for better reasons.

calmer than you dude.

Zoinks?
what am I dealing with?


I agree w/ Charles Bukowski in that..

It's not that I do not like you or your false allegations..
It's just I like life better w/out your retardness. 8)

bgpurzycki

Quote from: pinkyslim on July 31, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: xaiool on July 31, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: monts on July 31, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
You took a lot of time to ramble on about .. nothing.   You haven't added anything to this thread, other than pointing out what capitalism is not, and a minor grammatical error.   You appear rather dense and condescending when you miss what people are saying, and nitpick with the literal meanings of certain words, without taking a position one way or the other.  Yes, it is understood that buying multiple copies of limited records only to flip them immediately is not capitalism- you've said it two or three times, and no one is disagreeing.  The point is, it rubs people the wrong way when one person buys multiple copies, only to resell them, and then comes her and acts like a dick about it.

No one really cares if you buy melvins cds and resell them; it's legal.  You just don't have to be an asshole and come here only to rub it in other fans faces, who for one reason or another couldn't buy one at cost.

Zoiks!  Relax!  I'm not nitpicking, I'm trying to understand...hence not taking a position.  It's called reason.  Settle down!

I haven't missed what people are saying considering it amounts to zilch.  People are making arguments to justify what they do.  I'm interested in this.  I just would like to see better arguments for it, but I'm not the one making them, I'm trying to understand them.  It'd be nice to do that without being called names.

Yeah, it's upsetting to have people rub it in your face.  But the question is whether or not their actions which they are celebrating are justified.  People express their position here without justification and then people say "I agree" or "I disagree".  In the latter case, they express a different position but never justify it beyond the level I've pointed out.  If that counts as "a ramble", then egads.  If I've added anything, it's a demand for better reasons.

calmer than you dude.

Zoinks?
what am I dealing with?
I stand for freedom.

I agree w/ Charles Bukowski in that..

It's not that I do not like you or your false allegations..
It's just I like life better w/out your retardness. 8)


People here make enemies of their potential allies before even realizing they are allies.  And all it took was a few words.  Zoiks was an understatement. 

Okay, so you buy more than you "need" in order to have more negotiating power over items' worth than you would otherwise. If more were available others would be able to spend significantly less on them.  Of course, they don't have to buy them etc. etc.  But, if more were available, they'd be cheaper than buying them from you since you've created a context where people are more willing to spend more. 

"Standing for freedom" doesn't mean anything.  So, you put your child through school.  That's a decent reason.  You want to ensure your offspring's well-being at the cost of others who are willing to purchase pieces of plastic at retardedly inflated prices.  You're happy, they're happy.  What's the problem then?

Well, others might not think it's worth their having to pay more in order to get a copy of something.  So, they don't have to buy it.  No, but that's not why they're upset.  They're upset because you and others like you have changed the rules of the game they wish to play.  It's called an externality--a by-product of your transaction. 

See, I don't actually disagree with your position PinkySlim.  It's just that I've learned that anyone who talks as much shit as you do, responds with things like "fag, vagina, cock, etc.", is obsessed with their own body image, doesn't have the brains to actually think about what it is that they're doing beyond their own interests.

As an actual American, I think bastardizing terms like "freedom" or "capitalism"  by using them synonymously with greed and maximizing one's own gain by changing the nature of the game is an insult to my country and economic system.

pinkyslim