Pigs of the Roman Empire

Started by Dr. Gonzo, August 07, 2004, 01:14:41 AM

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benton netty

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What I think is funny was how everyone was really, really down on Pigs before it was even released and now that it's here everyone seems to be coming around. To all naysayers I say simply listen to the 20 minute plus title track and all doubts should fade away

nope, this album still sucks. wake me when the melvins come out with an album full of actual music instead of vaccuum cleaner noises, booms, clanks, random kick drum hits, and ministry remixes.

fuck lustmord.

Dr. Gonzo

ahahahhaha...

THe albums alright.
But seriously people are highly overating it!
I'm angry about this.
Pertending the album is amazing, that's pretty damn lame.

I don't want to hear some shit like "maybe you don't get it..." or "you're a dumbass!"

I could honestly run into my room at full speed, trip and fall knocking my 100's of CDs over. Guaranteed, whatever I end up with my hand on is a CD that owns this new Melvins release.

I'm listening to the Colonel Claypool's bucket of Bernie Brains CD right now.... brand new. WELL actually only the first track has finished downloading, but the rest is on the way! I have a feeling this will be one of the best albums in a long time..... the first track rules.

The Big Eyeball in the Sky!

Galvano

I can't belive how poorly mixed the album is at times.
It's almost like they forgot to master a few songs.

But there are are a few bright moments on there, far from the quality they usually put out though.
Is Buzzo getting lazy?

benton netty

Quote from: GalvanoI can't belive how poorly mixed the album is at times.
It's almost like they forgot to master a few songs.

i'm glad someone else noticed this. i posted about this a few weeks ago. if you put "safety third" or "pink bat" on right next to "the bloated pope" (the only good-sounding song on the album), it's extremely evident.

i'm sure they did it on purpose, but that doesn't mean i think it works. rather, i think it takes songs that could've been cool and makes them sound so bad as to ruin the song completely. somehow i blame this on lustmord, too. :roll:

Quote from: Dr. GonzoI could honestly run into my room at full speed, trip and fall knocking my 100's of CDs over. Guaranteed, whatever I end up with my hand on is a CD that owns this new Melvins release.

i totally agree with you. i'm trying to think of an album that i enjoy less than this one, and i'm really having trouble. maybe lustmord's solo albums or maldoror or merzbow i like less. but that shit isn't even music, so it shouldn't count.

LouiLoomis

Quote from: tonyi'm sure they did it on purpose, but that doesn't mean i think it works. rather, i think it takes songs that could've been cool and makes them sound so bad as to ruin the song completely. somehow i blame this on lustmord, too. :roll:

Hey Tony, nice to see you're still sticking to your guns, but does sound quality really prevent you from enjoying the song? That's sad if it does.

tesseract

The track III sounds like the "you opened the box" sound in the Hellraiser/Hellbound films.

Bring on the cenobites!

:sa

benton netty

Quote from: LouiLoomis
Hey Tony, nice to see you're still sticking to your guns, but does sound quality really prevent you from enjoying the song? That's sad if it does.

why would that be "sad"? if a decent song sounds like shit, it's hard for me to enjoy it. what's so hard to understand about that?

klump


blacksanta

I like it alot. But I don't think it's something I will play over and over again. It's a sit down and listen album, not something to rock out to. A good journey, especially on headphones with mushies, which I did last night  :hal:           . Evil.....But it's far to dense and artsy to become a daily player like HAT or Stag or Honky etc. Don't expect anything from this band and you shall be amazed at every turn....God I love this band.
Also melvins is gay cuz some of their songs are just noise, i tell you this so you all don't buy albums and find out only one two songs is good on them.

anaconda

i play my own acoustic bits over the long boring parts of Pigs
between the riffs and actual songs. Bloated Pope is the best thing
on here still!

Filosofem

It is a good album, but i agree with black santa in saying that it wont be one i will listen to daily, unlike stag or HAT, but i must admit when i heard pink bat i was impressed. although the sound isnt great, i enjoy the song!  :)

LouiLoomis

Quote from: tony
Quote from: LouiLoomis
Hey Tony, nice to see you're still sticking to your guns, but does sound quality really prevent you from enjoying the song? That's sad if it does.

why would that be "sad"? if a decent song sounds like shit, it's hard for me to enjoy it. what's so hard to understand about that?

Because your not listening to the song as a song. You can't hear through production, which sucks for you.

Jess

the production has to be done on purpose.  i don't think they would put out anything less than what they were going for.  sorta like goggles, when i first heard that i thought they fucked up on the drums, but it's ALL intentional with these guys.  
personally i don't see what lustmord did that was so amazing,electronic genius? hardly.  the bloated pope kills.

DanGerous

got it yesterday and can't get enough of the title track...overall it will have to grow on me, but I keep throwing it on.  Reminds of a cross beween the latest Fantomas and Honky...some of it could have been on HAT too.   Is it on vinyl?

Vcavallo

i really don't understand you guys at all...this is a CD of real music! it isn't vacuum noise and beeps!  there are three, nay, four very straightforward songs on here (pope, pinkbat, safetythird, toadi) which are blended together with quite interesting and lovely ambiance.  plus, if you can enjoy the title track, it's got like 3 different songs in it!  if you listen to 2, then 5, then 7, it's like you have a real melvins CD, except better because the songs are real dense thanks to the hand of Lustmord, and they are nice and long.  you people that are saying it's a vacuum noise/colossus album really need to re-think what you are saying, because minute-for-minute there is a ton of rockable music on here.

"actual songs"-
bloated pope: 3:45
toadi acceleratio: 3:25
pink bat: 6:23
safety third: 6:11
TOTAL: 19:44
+pigs of the roman empire because it is mostly music, so i would say the total for "Actual Music" is closer to 30:00

"Noise"-
III: 3:00
ZZZZ best: 1:59
Idolatrous Apostate: 6:46
Untitled: 5:47
TOTAL: 17:32 (keep in mind these "vacuum noises" add to the album, not detract from it.)
Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo