Buzzo has some...odd views

[SnopperTheSecond]

I apologize for being so on-the-nose with the hero worship statement. I mean, your rhetoric is getting pretty heated there buddy.

In any event, you failed to actually articulate why someone should not be criticized for their public statements. You just vented some of your personal feelings.

[dead mike]

Ah, yes the Dixie Chicks. I remember that controversy from, what's it been, 16, 17 years ago? I also remember how they instantly became the favorite country musicians of people who don't like country music. So terrible what those right wingers did to them. If it's not Elvis and his swiveling hips corrupting America's youth, it's the Dixie Chicks. (Note: Do not under any circumstances admit the existence of Kanye West, Scarlett Johansson, Quentin Tarantino, Todd Phillips, Bill Hicks, Drew Brees, In-N-Out Burger, numerous YA novelists and conservative guest speakers at universities.)

I was responding to what you said- 'This idea that an artist should be "canceled" for not voting for the right party is, IMO, how you end up with Trump in the first place.'  Reread what I typed, it was quite a specific thing in response to your specific remark.  It wasn't about censorship or boycotts in general, but about your statement that boycotts is 'how you end up with Trump'. Again, reread what I wrote carefully, not what you might THINK I typed.

Their music is completely negligible, but yes, it was actually pretty terrible what happened to the Dixie Chicks. Apparently, you don't seem to think so. So, I don't really get your stance. But , whatever.

I did read it and properly understood it the first time, and I gave you many specific, recent examples refuting your statement as ridiculous and false. Declaring after the fact that I didn't understand it is simply an attempt to distract from your statement's lack of merit.

You can respond saying I still don't get it (you'd be wrong) and come up with some other nonsense, or you can stop embarrassing yourself. It's your call.

[herb wilkinson]

of course the "freethinking" sycophantic bootlickers here don't question their precious "king"

[SnopperTheSecond]

You can respond saying I still don't get it (you'd be wrong) and come up with some other nonsense, or you can stop embarrassing yourself. It's your call.

No, you didn't get it. Let me try once more

You said Trump was elected because of 'cancel culture', correct? Yes? Is that a fair reading of what you initially said? Yes? Agreed?

So I noted that Bush was re-elected although people like the dixie chicks (and some others) were cancelled (ie, being tossed from the radio amongst other things) for their political stance against his foreign policies. Yes, get that?

Then I said  'so I guess it only works one way'.  Does that mean that people on the 'right' aren't censored? No, I never said that. You simply didn't read what I typed carefully enough, and you jumped to an ideological assumption. I was referring to the idea of a presidential election being decided based on artists on the other side being 'cancelled' (which is a comically reductionist idea that ignores numerous factors, but I was playing along with it).

[SnopperTheSecond]

He has called Thomas Sowell the 'greatest philosopher'. Sowell just tweeted out that racism only exists bc politicians are using it to get votes (only an extremely sheltered person could believe that). Sowell -and back we are to science- has also said some insanely ignorant shit about climate change.

He really should stay in his lane and just discuss music and other creative pursuits, and the music business. He has plenty of non-ignorant things to say about them.

What are your credentials to preach against a black economist in his 80s about race relations? Maybe you should read a few of his books with an open mind. They're very easy to read. He's an economist that uses stats to illustrate his arguments, and he's seen a lot more than you.

You should stay in your lane and just stick to playing Xbox in your mom's basement.

So, I noticed you ignored the climate change remark I made, so I'll hit that first.

I've heard Sowell dilating at length on various topics on multiple occasions. I'm familiar with his idiotic arguments. You didn't want to touch the climate change one, did you? I'm extremely well-informed on that one, and his assertion that 'intellectuals' have confabulated it cuts against basic reality. Scientists , not intellectuals, based on decades of accumulated data and research in sundry fields around the world maintain the truth of climate change. We have piles and piles of empirical data regarding it. Sowell was completely wrong on this, but has never acknowledged it. That marks him out either as an idiot or a prevaricator.

As far as racism, if your argument is that it's exclusively economic, I will simply disagree with that. I personally hear and have heard racist sentiments out of the mouths of poor people, middle class people, and well-off people. Yes, they confide in me for whatever reason- they assume I share their sentiments.

But , here, let's quote Sowell's words which were a bit different-

'Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists."'

From my own experience having lived in very white communities with a fair number of racists, I find this claim laughable. If you're wondering if I'm labeling people racist who might not be, Im talking about people who go on and on about the N----s. And when younger, people who would go and find blacks to beat up on the weekends. They weren't doing that because of a politician or being called racist. lol

You don't appear to have any argument whatsoever. BTW The difference between me saying 'stay in my lane' and you saying it, is that I pointed out an indisputable fact in my initial post. That overuse of antibiotics is leading to superbugs.

btw, Pew Research -

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/

If 70%+ of black Americans feel race relations are getting worse as of last year, how can someone say 'racism is on life support'? If you want to say that's just their perception, then why should Sowell's life experiences count more than theirs?

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/

We also have racial hate crime statistics. They reached a 16 year high last year per the FBI.


People who try to debate me typically lose, or pretend they didn't lose.

[bUTTHOLEmAN]

Locked for a bit, points have been made. Feel free to take this discussion to the ecumenical section.