Melvins & Helms Alee

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Colonel Cheese

i thought the video was pretty cool. definitely Jesse Nieminen's most visually stimulating work yet in my opinion. i never thought he wasn't good or anything but i never found interest in too many of his visuals over the past 7 years or whatever since a walk with love and death, but i really dig those found in this new video.

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Quote from: Colonel Cheese on August 04, 2023, 07:56:49 AM
i thought the video was pretty cool. definitely Jesse Nieminen's most visually stimulating work yet in my opinion. i never thought he wasn't good or anything but i never found interest in too many of his visuals over the past 7 years or whatever since a walk with love and death, but i really dig those found in this new video.
I really liked his video for Discipline 23. That was really pretty fantastic. I'm not saying the new one isn't. I just don't want to see it - like i say i'm not entirely sure why.

Chief Ten Beers

Quote from: Nizamark on August 01, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
do the du

Husker Du rules. Would love to see Melvins cover more of their stuff. Probably a tie between them and the Meat Puppets for 3rd best band on the classic SST roster. They were definitely the best songwriters. Pretty much love all their stuff except the last two Warners albums which are pretty sketchy.
One of my top 10 shows ever was the first and only time seeing Bob Mould Trio, ten years ago in Ithaca NY when the Silver Age album came out. Strong album and rhythm section. They played alot of Husker classics, and Bob sounded as good in voice and on guitar as he did 20 yrs prior.

GiveMe45

So should I have my trigger finger ready at Noon Central today?

vince furnier

Quote from: GiveMe45 on August 06, 2023, 09:26:49 AM
So should I have my trigger finger ready at Noon Central today?
HAZE IG doesn't say anything so prob not.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvZxh5ggGf3/

Melvins fb says

'12" and CD to launch on start of the TWINS OF EVIL TOUR late summer 2023'
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jonE5

Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on August 04, 2023, 04:16:34 PM
Quote from: Nizamark on August 01, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
do the du

Husker Du rules. Would love to see Melvins cover more of their stuff. Probably a tie between them and the Meat Puppets for 3rd best band on the classic SST roster. They were definitely the best songwriters. Pretty much love all their stuff except the last two Warners albums which are pretty sketchy.
One of my top 10 shows ever was the first and only time seeing Bob Mould Trio, ten years ago in Ithaca NY when the Silver Age album came out. Strong album and rhythm section. They played alot of Husker classics, and Bob sounded as good in voice and on guitar as he did 20 yrs prior.

Huge fan myself

Curious Chief.. Who get's your vote for #1 and 2 from the classic SST roster?
Mine would probably include Sonic Youth and The Minutemen

Nizamark

Black Flag would have to be number one.

Bad Brains and Meat Puppets def up there for me

Chief Ten Beers

Yeah -  Black Flag #1, Minutemen #2,
I think of Dino Jr,, Screaming Trees, SY, and Bad Brains as top tier in the 2nd wave on SST.  Bad Brains didn't sign on  til ''86(I Against I).

Mount Ambulance

Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on August 07, 2023, 03:47:37 PM
Bad Brains didn't sign on  til ''86(I Against I).

haha, yeah and it was their last great record.


hails to those top shelves already mentioned ... all kinds of other gems on that roster tho ... Saccharine Trust, Dicks, Bl'ast, Dino Jr, Saint Vitus, Slovenly ... SST was weird and cool shit.



John Schuller

Best of the first wave of SST = Black Flag, Minutemen, Meat Puppets, Husker Du, Saint Vitus

Best of the second wave of SST = Bad Brains, Sonic Youth, Soundgarden, Firehose, Descendents, Gone, Negativland

But really, by the end of the second wave there were so many bands, so many albums it started to feel less SST after awhile.

I Against I - the LAST good Bad Brains album? I do not subscribe to that thought at all.


Nizamark

I Against I was the first BB I ever heard.  That cassette lived in my car and I wore it out.   Then I bought Quickness.... and then the early stuff.  I got into them kinda backwards.

Mount Ambulance

Quote from: John Schuller on August 07, 2023, 05:36:30 PM
I Against I - the LAST good Bad Brains album? I do not subscribe to that thought at all.

Naw, I said last "great" Bad Brains record ... and it might only be "good" ... been a looong time since I've heard it. It certainly isn't as good as the ROIR tape or Rock For Light which are both great. Is 'Quickness' good? I can't remember? I think it might have been OK, which is like, almost good. Which isn't half bad! Other than that I've heard 'Rise'. It wasn't good. I dunno if it was bad? But it was at least half bad which isn't even OK.

What stuff post 'I Against I' do you subscribe to?

John Schuller

Quote from: Mount Ambulance on August 07, 2023, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: John Schuller on August 07, 2023, 05:36:30 PM
I Against I - the LAST good Bad Brains album? I do not subscribe to that thought at all.

Naw, I said last "great" Bad Brains record ... and it might only be "good" ... been a looong time since I've heard it. It certainly isn't as good as the ROIR tape or Rock For Light which are both great. Is 'Quickness' good? I can't remember? I think it might have been OK, which is like, almost good. Which isn't half bad! Other than that I've heard 'Rise'. It wasn't good. I dunno if it was bad? But it was at least half bad which isn't even OK.

What stuff post 'I Against I' do you subscribe to?

True! You did say "great"!

I look at ROIR Tape and Rock For Light as the holy grails - Bad Brains perfected. I Against I is like a rock masterpiece for them, no lightning fast hardcore or reggae to be found - just amazing songs!!! Quickness is AMAZING - although recorded in a weird way - originally done with a different vocalist and Mackie on drums (Cro-Mags drummer I think?). A lot like a super charged I Against I.

I do not count RISE as a Bad Brains album....I tried listening to it and just cannot. Same thing with a bootleg 7" I had a long time ago with Chuck Mosley singing....NOT Bad Brains.

I love the shit out God of Love, while it is nowhere as classic as anything that came before it - I think it has great songs and great playing.

Build a Nation and Into the Future are also really fucking good in my opinion. Even if Build a Nation feels a little bit too much like it is trying to be another Rock for Light or ROIR tape.

I know there is also a Dub album of Bad Brains stuff - I can do without that. I also don't really dig Black Dots all that much, even though I should since it predates the ROIR tape. Also - the Omega Sessions 10" is killer!

I love love love me some Bad Brains. I also really dig the HR Tapes recording - cannot remember the actual name - BUT - I can do without all of the solo HR material that I have heard.


Chief Ten Beers

 All this Bad Brains talk and I can't believe no one's mentioning Black Dots :shock:. That one is the shit, after ROIR tape. I hardly listen to Rock For Light. The earlier versions on ROIR just blow it away. Too slick w/ the Ric Ocasek production.
Best thing about that I Against I tour, was that it produced 2 - 1/2 great albums, "The Youth Are Getting Restless"(Caroline label) then the "Live" LP & "Spirit Electricity" EP on SST.

Big shout out to Saccharine Trust, and Saint Vitus for top early SST bands. Also some great one-off bands/albums worth mentioning too like Stains & The Dicks. Love fIREHOSE too, but I almost prefer their major label debuts - Flyin' The Flannel & Live Totem Pole EP, over the SST albums.
I never got into Soundgarden's SST albums much. IMO their early stuff was nothing special, but then they really hit their mark w/ Badmotorfinger.


Nizamark

Saccharine Trust is playing the Recess Romp festival this Friday in LA (San Pedro) with the mighty Dwarves and others