Melvins the inventors of Sludge Metal?

[SchnabelA]

According to Wikpedia the godfathers of Sludge Metal are The Melvins. Not sure if Buzz would agree on being put under that classification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sludge_metal

Sludge metal is a form of heavy metal music that is generally regarded as a fusion between doom metal and hardcore. It is generally regarded to have been invented by The Melvins, and some cite the second side of Black Flag's My War as influential, but was popularized chiefly by a number of New Orleans based bands, a scene and sound popularly referred to as NOLA. The slow, extremely heavy rhythms of doom metal are combined with the shouting vocal delivery and occasional bursts of speed reminiscent of hardcore. There is often crossover between this genre and stoner metal, but sludge metal generally avoids the positive outlook on life that is common in stoner metal, and is usually far more atmospheric. There is a strong influence of southern rock and imagery in some sludge metal, particularly in the swampy sounds of the Louisiana bands, but also in Corrosion of Conformity (from North Carolina), and many of the Texas bands.

Guitars and bass are heavily distorted and often use large amounts of feedback to give a 'dirty' atmosphere. Drums are rooted in hardcore, with many hardcore beats and rhythms being present in the majority of sludge bands. Vocals are shouted as in hardcore, and lyrics are generally blue-collar in nature, reflecting on society, generally in a cynical or downtrodden manner.

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[FartLips]

the melvins are quite downtrodden.

[Mad Arab]

I'd say Black Sabbath did. Under the Sun is quite sludgey.

[CaptainPungent]

would you say that sludge metal has a little bit of blues in it?

[anaconda]

Sure would! COC and EHG have alot of those influences.

[Rene They Call Him]

I would say the Melvins started sludge metal, and Black Sabbath influenced it.

Also, I think The Melvins are a lot less of a happy band than a lot of people think.  Certainly not as negative in outlook as, say EYEHATEGOD, but still not as happy-go-lucky as some people think.  (See Annum, With Teeth, Roman Dog Bird, Teet, Hooch, Easy as it Was, Eye Flys, The Bit, At the Stake, etc)

Pentalarc (Rene They Call Him)
Where FIve Roads Meet He Stands

[blacksanta]

Blue Cheer invented sludge metal.

[klump]

I dont know about sludge, but Ozzys head sure is filled with goo.

[Pelican]

One word sums up my definition of The Melvins, "undefinable".

Clearly this band does not stick to any one genre or category. How can you take anyone serious that tries to define this band's music?

[norecess]

Is this the first thread you have created in the Melvins section, Schnab?  

[SchnabelA]

Is this the first thread you have created in the Melvins section, Schnab?

[norecess]

With this thread, Cessy, I have an alibi for hanging around. Have the merry dutchman more to say about the subject Sludge Metal? You ironic, cynical hash-lover! 

I like sludge better than sludge metal, but yeah, I dig sludge. Kilslug, Flipper, Angry Hate, Iron Monkey, Corrupted, Toadliquor etc. etc.

By the way, I am slowly switching to weed again.

[el Giron]

One word sums up my definition of The Melvins, "undefinable".

Clearly this band does not stick to any one genre or category. How can you take anyone serious that tries to define this band's music?

Exactly! That is why the Melvins are so special. I mean, come on! They're all over the damn place.