Is it just me or is the REMASTERED version necessary or another way to get $$$?
The Jesus Lizard announced Albini is REMASTERING HEAD/PURE, GOAT, LIAR, and DOWN in May.
The new trend of REMASTERING original recordings is a slippery slope.
IS the sound THAT much better?
IS the NEW and IMPROVED packaging another scam?
:-k
I know I will be the first in line for the MELVINS but I am a fool when it comes to anything with a MELVINS stamp on it. :oops:
Why not?
Anyway I'll not buy it.
It seems like a very un-Albini-like thing to remaster those great Jesus Lizard albums.
Well, those albums have sold many copies and the quality isnt terrible so its clearly not absolutely necessary. I guess we'll see if the sound will be a lot better after they're remastered, but i'm gonna say its mostly a promotion/money thing.
i'm the one who likes the original recording quality,especially for Lysol?i'd like so much to hear Dale with that sound again [-o<
theyve replaced the john bonham snare sample with a jason bonham snare sample. :lol: :lol: :lol:
:D
Everytime I listen to D'yer Mak'er and then Lysol or vice versa I get shivers. I LOVE the drum sound.
Quote from: rimb on December 11, 2008, 03:31:28 PM
It seems like a very un-Albini-like thing to remaster those great Jesus Lizard albums.
I don't know if you have listened to those Jesus Lizard albums after playing other albums, but they are very quiet in comparison. I think a remastering of them is definitely in order.
It is nice to see Albini taking the helm again though, as I don't see him fucking things up or drastically changing the feel.
ReMaster/cover Bullhead. Other than that, meh.
I want b-side comps, I want cover albums, I want live shit, I want DVD's. I want info on past Melvins dealings.
I'll only buy the Melvins (Boner) CDs again if there are bonus tracks, same with the Jesus Lizard. The CDs sound fine. Whey does everyone think LOUDER is better. If I want to hear more bass, I'll turn the bass up. Tool's CDs are a perfect example of this bad trend in how CDs sound today.
The dynamics are there on the current CDs of say Bullhead & Goat. I just hate hw new CDs are mastered with too much low end. I was just listening today to Clutch - Pitchfork, and it doesn't sound right, like they just jacked all the levels up too much.
The SST '80s catalog is a different story. I would so love to see all the Black Flag CDs remastered. The vinyl sounds better. Ginn's too lazy and cheap to do it though. If only Rollins had control of that stuff.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 11, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
I'll only buy the Melvins (Boner) CDs again if there are bonus tracks, same with the Jesus Lizard. The CDs sound fine. Whey does everyone think LOUDER is better. If I want to hear more bass, I'll turn the bass up. Tool's CDs are a perfect example of this bad trend in how CDs sound today.
The dynamics are there on the current CDs of say Bullhead & Goat. I just hate hw new CDs are mastered with too much low end. I was just listening today to Clutch - Pitchfork, and it doesn't sound right, like they just jacked all the levels up too much.
The SST '80s catalog is a different story. I would so love to see all the Black Flag CDs remastered. The vinyl sounds better. Ginn's too lazy and cheap to do it though. If only Rollins had control of that stuff.
If Rollins had control of the BLACK FLAG REMASTERS, they would be distributed through STARBUCKS exclusively. :twisted:
Other than DAMAGED, give me Nervous breakdown, Jealous Again, 6-pack, Machine/ Louie, Louie. =;
Rollins likes to hear himself talk WAYYYY to much. :bs:
The last BLACK FLAG reunion show at the Hollywood Palladium was a total emabarrasement.
Listless and drab...Made SPINAL TAP look like U2.
PUNK ROCKER/DIY are not suppose to slap on a remastered sticker with some minor knob turning! It is blatant scam to sell to dumb kids.
Ask Matt Jacobson at Relapse or Steve Austin of Today is the Day.
The general public will buy anything with a REMASTERED sticker. SUCKERS? :evil:
I'm sorry, while I can appreciate the dank noise-dom of Bullhead, I think it needs a remastering. It just doens't have kick. Quoth my friend, drummer in my band Collosus Of Desinty and confidant, "I didn't understand Anaconda until I heard it live".
Do it live ala Houdini, I don't care. It just needs redoing.
i'll have to ask austin that sometime.
Quote from: OLD FART LIPS on December 11, 2008, 09:05:09 PM
i'll have to ask austin that sometime.
Yea dude,
He gave me the RELAPSE scoop on their last tour.
Known Steve and his lovely wife Hanna for over 15 years... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
:lol:
Quote from: pinkyslim on December 11, 2008, 09:21:05 PM
Quote from: OLD FART LIPS on December 11, 2008, 09:05:09 PM
i'll have to ask austin that sometime.
Yea dude,
He gave me the RELAPSE scoop on their last tour.
Known Steve and his lovely wife Hanna for over 15 years... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
did you ever live in nashville. i've been crossing paths with austin for the better part of 18 years. just saw titd a couple of weeks ago.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 11, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
The SST '80s catalog is a different story. I would so love to see all the Black Flag CDs remastered. The vinyl sounds better. Ginn's too lazy and cheap to do it though. If only Rollins had control of that stuff.
Agreed. SST did an awful job with their CDs. Hell, Ginn didn't even bother to put some of the catalogue on CD at all (Saccharine Trust's Surviving You Always).
And others can say what they want about Rollins, but he has done some AMAZING work getting out of print music back in print and paying the artists better than the original labels ever did. People just don't understand how valuable he's been to keeping a lot of great music in print.
Quote from: perusha on December 11, 2008, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 11, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
The SST '80s catalog is a different story. I would so love to see all the Black Flag CDs remastered. The vinyl sounds better. Ginn's too lazy and cheap to do it though. If only Rollins had control of that stuff.
Agreed. SST did an awful job with their CDs. Hell, Ginn didn't even bother to put some of the catalogue on CD at all (Saccharine Trust's Surviving You Always).
And others can say what they want about Rollins, but he has done some AMAZING work getting out of print music back in print and paying the artists better than the original labels ever did. People just don't understand how valuable he's been to keeping a lot of great music in print.
Dude...Do not forget the best and most violent band....................The STAINS =D>
Quote from: turnacus on December 11, 2008, 05:54:26 PM
ReMaster/cover Bullhead. Other than that, meh.
I want b-side comps, I want cover albums, I want live shit, I want DVD's. I want info on past Melvins dealings.
Truly.
Quote from: pinkyslim on December 12, 2008, 12:30:53 AM
Quote from: perusha on December 11, 2008, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 11, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
The SST '80s catalog is a different story. I would so love to see all the Black Flag CDs remastered. The vinyl sounds better. Ginn's too lazy and cheap to do it though. If only Rollins had control of that stuff.
Agreed. SST did an awful job with their CDs. Hell, Ginn didn't even bother to put some of the catalogue on CD at all (Saccharine Trust's Surviving You Always).
And others can say what they want about Rollins, but he has done some AMAZING work getting out of print music back in print and paying the artists better than the original labels ever did. People just don't understand how valuable he's been to keeping a lot of great music in print.
Dude...Do not forget the best and most violent band....................The STAINS =D>
Hell yes Pinkyslim!!!!!!! That record is awesome. Criminaly underrated band from the early SST days. Absolutely should still be in print.
The only difference is that Saccharine Trust still plays live. And they are extremely relevant. They are still amazing live, still write new material... I really can't believe a label doesn't help out Saccharine Trust. I wish other bands would reach out to them. Hell, I think they would be perfect for Ipecac. They are so important in LA. Joe Baiza and Jack Brewer are heroes. No one seems to care.
I like the way lysol sounded...i dont see anything wrong with that album.... bullhead sounds great but it is a little quiet... i would like to hear a remastered bullhead and ozma for sure.
Maybe their going to do an electro retard kind of thing and just re-record the songs and play them in a different aspect? I think that would be really cool.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on December 11, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
I'll only buy the Melvins (Boner) CDs again if there are bonus tracks, same with the Jesus Lizard. The CDs sound fine. Whey does everyone think LOUDER is better. If I want to hear more bass, I'll turn the bass up. Tool's CDs are a perfect example of this bad trend in how CDs sound today.
The dynamics are there on the current CDs of say Bullhead & Goat. I just hate hw new CDs are mastered with too much low end. I was just listening today to Clutch - Pitchfork, and it doesn't sound right, like they just jacked all the levels up too much.
The SST '80s catalog is a different story. I would so love to see all the Black Flag CDs remastered. The vinyl sounds better. Ginn's too lazy and cheap to do it though. If only Rollins had control of that stuff.
I am not saying the only reason to remaster the tjl stuff is to make it louder (which comes with a whole set of preconceptions about what one means by loud) and I seriously doubt that Steve Albini is going to be fucking with the feel of those albums that much, but just wait till they are remastered, give side by side listens and tell me which one sounds better. I will almost guarantee these tjl albums will sound better after they have been newly remastered. I am prepared to admit I was wrong if they sound like shit.
I bought this Faith No More best of album once because it had a "Remastered" sticker on it. The bloody thing had extra keyboard trumpets in Easy and that was about the only difference.
Please...no keyboard trumpet sound effects in Lysol! [-o<
Quote from: SpaceFarm on December 12, 2008, 06:24:43 PM
I bought this Faith No More best of album once because it had a "Remastered" sticker on it. The bloody thing had extra keyboard trumpets in Easy and that was about the only difference.
Please...no keyboard trumpet sound effects in Lysol! [-o<
no keys needed when they have dale!
All MELVINS past releases other than ALIVE at the FUCKER CLUB are etched in my mind as masterpieces.
When I am crankin' OZMA, the whole sludge low end vibe is close to my heart.
I am always cautious new and improved is USUALLY slick and processed. [-(
The only REMASTERS I find valuable is the mighty LED ZEPPELIN 8)