I, as many others on this forum, have been riding this strange Melvins rollercoaster for a long, long time. However, lately I've found myself missing Dale being the sole drummer. Don't get me wrong, I love the Biz, and Coady is a fucking monster behind the kit. I just think that the Buzz/Dale dynamic is sorta being drowned out by Jared and Coady. I know the Melvins are gonna do what the Melvins wanna do but does anyone else feel the same? How long before Big Biz gets the axe?
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 12:05:11 PM
I, as many others on this forum, have been riding this strange Melvins rollercoaster for a long, long time. However, lately I've found myself missing Dale being the sole drummer. Don't get me wrong, I love the Biz, and Coady is a fucking monster behind the kit. I just think that the Buzz/Dale dynamic is sorta being drowned out by Jared and Coady. I know the Melvins are gonna do what the Melvins wanna do but does anyone else feel the same? How long before Big Biz gets the axe?
After attending the Spaceland shows and seeing this lineup play a lot of the "classics", I would say that Jared and Coady are a great thing. And as far as drummers? twice as powerful and they play almost exactly the same thing. It just makes it louder and better.
- No
- Big Melvins Rules !
....."drowned out" ? ...Have you heard this album called The Bride Screamed Murder ?
Yeah, you should totally check it out, dude. IMO, It's all good & at present, it's good as ever,
maybe better. Having said that, I would pay to see a full 45 min. set of "Just Dale" on his kit.
Like I said, I like the Biz. I have heard and absolutely LOVE the new one. I've seen every tour with J & C and in many cases more than one show. Maybe I'm crazy. I just miss the trio. Despite what you say, there is a big difference, for better or for worse.
dale is dale. no one can touch him. but this 2 headed monster is gaining personality by the performance.
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 12:05:11 PM
does anyone else feel the same?
me,i think they're a lot better with just Dale
Not only do I prefer the Melvins with JUST Dale but I would prefer it if Dale used JUST the snare and kick drums. Fuck all that superfluous shit. Only fairies use cymbals.
It's so awesome that the Biz-Vins four piece will appear on SNL.
They're gonna blow the fuckin' doors off the hinges, bust the "Brown Note" & yes,
pee and poop will fill the pants of the unsuspecting. :D/
Quote from: ManWithNoName on February 14, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Not only do I prefer the Melvins with JUST Dale but I would prefer it if Dale used JUST the snare and kick drums. Fuck all that superfluous shit. Only fairies use cymbals.
Now your just talkin' crazy talk.....you want like a Slim Jim Phantom kinda thing ?
So, "fuck all that superfluous shit", you mean like the last 26 years of Mr. Crover's
drumming ? :lol: :lol: :lol: ...you talkin' crazy talk.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on February 14, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
I would prefer it if Dale used JUST the snare and kick drums. Fuck all that superfluous shit. Only fairies use cymbals.
NOThe cymbal stuff is excellent too! As a matter of fact, the crash cymbal alone impresses the hell out of me when Dale uses it.
Someone needs to start a "Matt Lukin must Re-Unite with the Melvins" petition page.
Well...all I'm sayin' is, I love everything they do BUT for as experimental as they are you figure they would at least move on from the ol' "clinkity clankity" shit they've been doing for 3 albums now. I get it. Trust me. I have grown accustomed to the changes they go through and I guess I wish it was time for them to change it up again. That takes nothing away from how good their past 3 albums are.
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 04:31:59 PM
Well...all I'm sayin' is, I love everything they do BUT for as experimental as they are you figure they would at least move on from the ol' "clinkity clankity" shit they've been doing for 3 albums now. I get it. Trust me.
You nailed it. :lol:
yes. and I know what you mean by drowned out.... you may not hear it on their studio albums but the live show does sound drowned out to me unless they are playing something slow like boris or hung bunny.
hey manwith, can you imagine bullhead with no cymbals? :lol:
Maybe it's just me, but I detect a faint whiff of sarcasm in ManWith's post.
Quote from: LebRon Maiden on February 14, 2011, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 04:31:59 PM
Well...all I'm sayin' is, I love everything they do BUT for as experimental as they are you figure they would at least move on from the ol' "clinkity clankity" shit they've been doing for 3 albums now. I get it. Trust me.
You nailed it. :lol:
Oooooohhh, now that you put it that way, yeah the clinkity clankity shit, yeah NO, that's wrong, you're wrong, you don't get it, trust
me. :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Just a personal opinion and observation on my part.
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Just a personal opinion and observation on my part.
Don't be so thin skinned, we can be friends and you be wrong......do you like waffles ?
I love waffles. And I'm not wrong. But you do have 3000+ more posts than me so...you win. I'm just glad I finally started nerdin' out on this forum.
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 09:44:30 PM
I love waffles. And I'm not wrong. But you do have 3000+ more posts than me so...you win. I'm just glad I finally started nerdin' out on this forum.
Put some chopped pecans in the waffle iron for about 15 seconds before you pour the batter, mmmmnn.
Waffle won't ever let me down......fuck valentines day.
wow, i have to weigh in on this:
ASA : Amazing from beginning to end
NWB: Somewhat generic in places
The Bride: Amazing start to finish
That sounds delicious.
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 10:55:46 PM
That sounds delicious.
bacon on the top of it......trapped in syrup.
Quote from: spunkmonkey on February 14, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I detect a faint whiff of sarcasm in ManWith's post.
yeah, but dale could still pull it off.
Loving the new avatar there Anaconda. :D
The double drumming sounds different on all three albums. The first one is maximal rock fury, the second is basically normal drumbeats using 2 drummers so that you can hit more stuff at the same time and the third is clinky-clanky-chimy-cymbally-martial-beats style.
It's not the drums, it's always the bassists that morphs the Melvins! It's fucking Warren's fault.
Quote from: )))((( on February 15, 2011, 04:45:14 AM
Loving the new avatar there Anaconda. :D
Little Orphan Buzzie
Quote from: Justafilthylurker on February 15, 2011, 05:16:53 AM
The double drumming sounds different on all three albums. The first one is maximal rock fury, the second is basically normal drumbeats using 2 drummers so that you can hit more stuff at the same time and the third is clinky-clanky-chimy-cymbally-martial-beats style.
Dale can play all three styles together while having breakfast.he can do the trumpet machine with his mouth too
I must have missed something - Melvin's are going to play Saturday Night Live?
When?
Quote from: blewis on February 15, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
I must have missed something - Melvin's are going to play Saturday Night Live?
When?
Soon. Danny DeVito will be hosting!
I love the current line up, they are amazing live. I also really like the stripped down "Melvins Lite" two piece playing the oldies. Kick ass amazing. You can really appreciate Buzz and Dale's talent with nothing else going on.
Dale needs space, give Dale space!
Quote from: Smellis on February 15, 2011, 12:11:23 PM
I love the current line up, they are amazing live. I also really like the stripped down "Melvins Lite" two piece playing the oldies. Kick ass amazing. You can really appreciate Buzz and Dale's talent with nothing else going on.
See now that's what I'm talkin bout!
Quote from: blastitol on February 14, 2011, 12:40:55 PM
Like I said, I like the Biz. I have heard and absolutely LOVE the new one. I've seen every tour with J & C and in many cases more than one show. Maybe I'm crazy. I just miss the trio. Despite what you say, there is a big difference, for better or for worse.
I feel ya. I miss each and every lineup actually. I wish that they could all exist. Lukin, Lorax, Mark D, RottenAss Joker, Big Biz - ALL GREAT!
Quote from: MrLuck87 on February 15, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Quote from: blewis on February 15, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
I must have missed something - Melvin's are going to play Saturday Night Live?
When?
Soon. Danny DeVito will be hosting!
I think it's on April 1st.
They're gonna call it Friday Night Live.
And its JUST Dale.
JUST Dale is the perfect name for a new tv-series. Starring Dale Crover of course. But will he be willing to invite a tv-crew home to his crib, the same way Ozzy and Gene has done?
Quote from: Schnabster on February 16, 2011, 02:49:38 AM
JUST Dale is the perfect name for a new tv-series. Starring Dale Crover of course. But will he be willing to invite a tv-crew home to his crib, the same way Ozzy and Gene has done?
Why does it have to be JUST Dale tho? Sooooo much better if it was called 'The Crovers' and featured Maureen, Scarlett and Cassius too? Or perhaps it could be called 'The Four Leaf Crovers' since there's four of them! :) Could even make a feature film update of Uncle Buck entitled Uncle Buzz with our very own King Buzzo in the John Candy role. How about it then?
Quote from: )))((( on February 16, 2011, 04:59:48 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on February 16, 2011, 02:49:38 AM
JUST Dale is the perfect name for a new tv-series. Starring Dale Crover of course. But will he be willing to invite a tv-crew home to his crib, the same way Ozzy and Gene has done?
Why does it have to be JUST Dale tho? Sooooo much better if it was called 'The Crovers' and featured Maureen, Scarlett and Cassius too? Or perhaps it could be called 'The Four Leaf Crovers' since there's four of them! :) Could even make a feature film update of Uncle Buck entitled Uncle Buzz with our very own King Buzzo in the John Candy role. How about it then?
Of course there must be other characters than only Dale with. But the main focus is Dale, JUST Dale.
I had a dream about Dale. We were loading cargo for a relief mission to Haiti.
I think the Big Melvins albums got progressively worse. I was quite disappointed by TBSM... I hope they'll step out of their current comfort zone for their next album.
Quote from: glen on February 14, 2011, 01:18:38 PM
dale is dale. no one can touch him. but this 2 headed monster is gaining personality by the performance.
Word.
Quote from: AxelFoley on February 16, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
I think the Big Melvins albums got progressively worse. I was quite disappointed by TBSM
I was too. Its certainly wasnt a bad album but an absolute killer record it wasnt. Gotta disagree with the progressively worse trend tho. Senile and Nude are equally great in my mind.
Quote from: )))((( on February 16, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: AxelFoley on February 16, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
I think the Big Melvins albums got progressively worse. I was quite disappointed by TBSM
I was too. Its certainly wasnt a bad album but an absolute killer record it wasnt. Gotta disagree with the progressively worse trend tho. Senile and Nude are equally great in my mind.
Not as dynamic as High On Fire :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sleep dear fellow, Sleep. Good retort regardless tho.
I prefer TBSM than NWB.ASA is my favourite with the BB guys
Dale doesn`t care about what we fancy, Dale will destruct those drums no matter what.
Quote from: black stallion on February 17, 2011, 06:45:38 AM
I prefer TBSM than NWB.ASA is my favourite with the BB guys
same here.
everything before ASA is killer melvins stuff. i like ASA quite a lot...
NWB and TBSM are ok albums, but a bit disappointing in my opinion...
The Bride Screamed Murder is my favorite of the Big Melvins. NWB is also great. I think that NWB will be looked at fondly in a few years and all the twats who claim it sucks will all be saying how they totally loved it from the moment of its release because they're hip like that.
i definitely think the Melvins venture away from the norm more often as a 3-piece. don't get me wrong i like them with Big Business...i think they're songs are more accessible (for lack of a better word) with the new line-up. not that there's anything wrong with that. i just miss the weirdness. the last two albums especially have this classic rock vibe...
I only got to see the 3 piece Melvins once but I thought they got so much better live with BB. Just seemed to breath life in them and they are better everytime time I see them. Love the blend of vocals too.
Recording wise, I think it could be better. There's something about the sound of those albums that im starting to get bored with, kind of thin and sometimes harsh with not much attention the double drumming.
The Bride Screamed Murder is my favorite album with Jared and Coady and I think it's one of the Melvins' best albums. A Senile Animal is also amazing, and Nude With Boots, while not one of my favorite Melvins releases is still fantastic. The two times I've seen the Melvins live were with the Big Business lineup and they were just fantastic. I think Jared and Coady are great additions to the band and I hope this lineup does not end soon.
I think Buzz purposely makes his guitar sound weedy as a sort of stroppy reaction to the whole Sludge Metal thing. Also, I don't think people realise how weird a song like Billy Fish is whilst still sounding so normal at the same time. This is advanced level stuff.