Dale seems to get much of the attention on this board, are these the fruits of The Italian Stallions unlimited love for the worlds best drummer, or is it due to the fact that Dale is a likable fella, a star who is still down to earth? Or are there other reasons?
All of your questions get answered here: Facts about Dale Crover (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0).
Honestly Dale is Just That cool of a guy.
I met a Drummer back then I was about 17, and This Drummer friend of mine was one of TWO of the BEST drummers I personally know.
We played some melvins tunes on his Ghetto blaster taking a Jam-break in the Garage.
We talked a little about Dale, and Mitch Added...yeah, Dale is a good Drummer because he does exactly what he needs to Do, When he needs to do it, and nothing more.
That about sums it up for me.
Quote from: Dumpster D on January 15, 2013, 12:11:24 AM
Honestly Dale is Just That cool of a guy.
I met a Drummer back then I was about 17, and This Drummer friend of mine was one of TWO of the BEST drummers I personally know.
We played some melvins tunes on his Ghetto blaster taking a Jam-break in the Garage.
We talked a little about Dale, and Mitch Added...yeah, Dale is a good Drummer because he does exactly what he needs to Do, When he needs to do it, and nothing more.
That about sums it up for me.
I guess that plus the charisma, the legend. Buzz has been in focus earlier on, now the focus is on Dale. Hail Dale!
dale just seems to be a really easy going and cool guy (besides being the best drummer to ever walk the earth).
i like buzzo too, but have to admit that his bitching about drugs, drunks et all get boring sometimes...
dale just gives a funny and down to earth impression and i like that a lot.
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 15, 2013, 02:20:28 AM
dale just seems to be a really easy going and cool guy (besides being the best drummer to ever walk the earth).
i like buzzo too, but have to admit that his bitching about drugs, drunks et all get boring sometimes...
dale just gives a funny and down to earth impression and i like that a lot.
They are funny in both their ways, but Buzz is in my book just as humouristic as the best of stand up comedians. He could have stage shows ala Henry Rollins, and he would have done it so much better.
Quote from: Schnabster on January 15, 2013, 02:29:48 AM
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 15, 2013, 02:20:28 AM
dale just seems to be a really easy going and cool guy (besides being the best drummer to ever walk the earth).
i like buzzo too, but have to admit that his bitching about drugs, drunks et all get boring sometimes...
dale just gives a funny and down to earth impression and i like that a lot.
They are funny in both their ways, but Buzz is in my book just as humouristic as the best of stand up comedians. He could have stage shows ala Henry Rollins, and he would have done it so much better.
agreed, buzzo has a good humor. he sure would have some awesome stories to tell!
i think the answer to this thread is pretty simple.he's an incredible drummer. after watching him playing live you know your opinion about every other drummer will change a lot
Dale is the good cop to Buzz's bad cop.
I'd love to sit down and have a few beers with Dale; Buzz, not so much.
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 15, 2013, 02:20:28 AM
dale just seems to be a really easy going and cool guy (besides being the best drummer to ever walk the earth).
i like buzzo too, but have to admit that his bitching about drugs, drunks et all get boring sometimes...
dale just gives a funny and down to earth impression and i like that a lot.
you mean the kind of Bitching your doing about Buzz right now... :lol:
Honestly, Lose your best Friend to a heroin overdose and See if you can get through the first five minutes of TRAINSPOTTING without Smashing the tape to smithereens.
I hate dope. and you would too if it was in your face all the time.
same with all drugs and booze.
Deal with Drunken Fans every day for Like half the year on average and see if you still have nothing to *BITCH* about.
Quote from: spunkmonkey on January 15, 2013, 06:16:46 PM
I'd love to sit down and have a few beers with Dale; Buzz, not so much.
Yeah, that about sums it up.
you guys dont seem to realize that in the case of Buzz and Dale, that one hand washes the other.
where is day without night.
Im sorry but you guys really dont have any real perspective. and this conversation is over for me.
Buzz and Dale are two people I have immense respect for-actually they're probably the two musicians I have the most respect for. I guess Buzz has somewhat of a reputation of being a debbie downer, and I can understand people may get tired of him bashing drugs and alcohol in interviews. You know, a lot of people smoke pot and drink casually, and I think it's easy to forget about how much exposure people like buzz has likely had with drugs over the years (I'm not saying he's done them, but certainly been around many junkies and witnessed some shit). Most people aren't professional rock musicians, especially in the sludge/doom/stoner/grunge/whatever "scene" where drugs are going to be very common. Look what happened with Kurt Cobain, Lori, and Kevin (and probably others in his life) Buzz acts very stoic and bulletproof but I'm sure that shit has affected him, more than he likes to typically let on. Every once in awhile he'll spill out some of his sensitive side in interviews, like when he talks about Kurt Cobain seriously for example. You know Kurt considered Buzz to be his mentor-Buzz was like Kurt's big brother-and to then see him end up in a downward spiral with drugs and suicide-and there was nothing he could do for Kurt...that had to have had a lasting effect on him. And he dated Lori, right? So they were pretty close and he saw her get carried away with heroin until she just couldn't be in his life anymore in any way. That's depressing. Jump ahead some years later-I really get the sense that Buzz and Dale thought they had finally found the perfect bass player with Kevin-great player, but also a band member he could be friends with, like Dale. And then Kevin's alcohol abuse came into play. Buzz has stated how upset he was about losing Kevin. So I think Buzz has certainly earned his right to have a negative outlook on drugs/booze. And he's stated that people should be able to do whatever they want, unless they don't fuck with someone else, so it's not like he believes people shouldn't be able to make their own choices with that stuff.
I could have summed that up in one Sentance;
the only good Junkie is a dead junkie.
Like I said man, This thread is now way too gone, and I See its touchy subject matter so, Like...Just understand why Buzz doesnt want to talk about it.
and hence is probly not going to have any positive Viewpoint on the subject.
now can we please stop talking about Drugs (ESPECIALLY HERE) for the love of Christ.
seriously.
Im actually 2 seconds from leaving this Forum right now and this time I DO MEAN IT.
I think I finally understand something about why Its better not to discuss Drug use and this Band in the same Forum.
and why This band has no interest in being associated with The Dragons tail.
This conversation is over for me.
Thanks.
Quote from: spunkmonkey on January 15, 2013, 06:16:46 PM
I'd love to sit down and have a few beers with Dale; Buzz, not so much.
This is very hypythetically, but Buzz would have made me laugh and laugh, once I had come over the humoungness by sitting there with an icon, a legend. I myself am also a chap who likes to throw jokes, instantly even with new people, so I guess my beer-date would be Buzz.
Quote from: Dumpster D on January 15, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
Honestly, Lose your best Friend to a heroin overdose and See if you can get through the first five minutes of TRAINSPOTTING without Smashing the tape to smithereens.
I hate dope. and you would too if it was in your face all the time.
same with all drugs and booze.
Deal with Drunken Fans every day for Like half the year on average and see if you still have nothing to *BITCH* about.
i am not saying drugs are good or anything.
i made my experience with drunks; i worked at the bar of a venue for over 3 years, and it's a real pain in the ass sometimes.
maybe i had the 51/51 tourblog in mind when i was referring to buzz/dale, where i buzz was speaking a lot about drunks.. also the multimilliondollar artists.
i understand his view and totally agree with him. it was just a bit same/same.
i am anyway not in a position to judge any of the two, since i simply don't know them...
Quote from: Schnabster on January 15, 2013, 02:29:48 AM
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 15, 2013, 02:20:28 AM
dale just seems to be a really easy going and cool guy (besides being the best drummer to ever walk the earth).
i like buzzo too, but have to admit that his bitching about drugs, drunks et all get boring sometimes...
dale just gives a funny and down to earth impression and i like that a lot.
They are funny in both their ways, but Buzz is in my book just as humouristic as the best of stand up comedians. He could have stage shows ala Henry Rollins, and he would have done it so much better.
I've often thought he'd make a great late night talk show host. He's also got the coolest laugh ever.
A little sidenote:
In the last year Ive only drunk 3 or 4 glasses of wine, havent been close to be under the influence and the longer it goes without, the more natural it feels. Not saying it will be like this permanently, but I cant say Im missing out on anything. The search for "high", either if its via alcohol or drugs is not the most important aspect of the world, we only live in between 75 - 90 years on this planet, there are kewler things about, or just as kewl things about, and you get loads and loads of energy keeping clean. This has of course much to do with having 3 youngies, but it still is an eyeopener on the routine one had before, that included getting a bit or much silly once a week on alcohol.
Quote from: homeless_dad on January 16, 2013, 02:08:37 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on January 15, 2013, 02:29:48 AM
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 15, 2013, 02:20:28 AM
dale just seems to be a really easy going and cool guy (besides being the best drummer to ever walk the earth).
i like buzzo too, but have to admit that his bitching about drugs, drunks et all get boring sometimes...
dale just gives a funny and down to earth impression and i like that a lot.
They are funny in both their ways, but Buzz is in my book just as humouristic as the best of stand up comedians. He could have stage shows ala Henry Rollins, and he would have done it so much better.
I've often thought he'd make a great late night talk show host. He's also got the coolest laugh ever.
Yes he does, hes extremely articulate, and I guess men who loves men and women would say that he has an attractive voice, a kavorka voice. :lol:
Quote from: Schnabster on January 16, 2013, 02:11:53 AM
The search for "high", either if its via alcohol or drugs is not the most important aspect of the world
Exactly. We find "highs" in other areas. Facets of life that give us back well being or positive vibes. Call it what you will.
talk about Dale!
Quote from: black stallion on January 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
talk about Dale!
:lol:
Have you ever met Dale, stallion? I met him once after my first Melvins show in 2008.
Quote from: Metalhead Cow on January 16, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: black stallion on January 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
talk about Dale!
:lol:
Have you ever met Dale, stallion? I met him once after my first Melvins show in 2008.
Dale has met Stallion, weve seen pics!
Quote from: black stallion on January 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
talk about Dale!
now i want to do a cover song of this, but replace "cars" with "Dale". it would fit perfectly.
Nip Drivers - Talk About Cars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL4wNqoeib4#)
i always though the bad brains should have sung "the big dale crover" instead of "the big takeover"....
Talking about sex and talking about Dale is pretty much the same thing to Stallion :)
Salt-N-Pepa - Let's Talk About Sex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydrtF45-y-g#)
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 17, 2013, 02:20:12 AM
i always though the bad brains should have sung "the big dale crover" instead of "the big takeover"....
What about changing the album title of that Melvins-album to Hostile Ambient Dale-over?
Quote from: Hot Pants on January 17, 2013, 02:09:39 AM
Quote from: black stallion on January 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
talk about Dale!
now i want to do a cover song of this, but replace "cars" with "Dale". it would fit perfectly.
Nip Drivers - Talk About Cars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL4wNqoeib4#)
Thats one of the toughest shorts songs Ive ever heard!
Quote from: Schnabster on January 17, 2013, 02:25:09 AM
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 17, 2013, 02:20:12 AM
i always though the bad brains should have sung "the big dale crover" instead of "the big takeover"....
What about changing the album title of that Melvins-album to Hostile Ambient Dale-over?
yeah, hostile ambient dalecrover!
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 17, 2013, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on January 17, 2013, 02:25:09 AM
Quote from: buddy holiday on January 17, 2013, 02:20:12 AM
i always though the bad brains should have sung "the big dale crover" instead of "the big takeover"....
What about changing the album title of that Melvins-album to Hostile Ambient Dale-over?
yeah, hostile ambient dalecrover!
Ah, so obvious, you beat me by a mile, buddy!
Quote from: Metalhead Cow on January 16, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: black stallion on January 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
talk about Dale!
:lol:
Have you ever met Dale, stallion? I met him once after my first Melvins show in 2008.
i did,after a Shrinebuilder show in 2010 or 2011!i did not talk too much but i took a pic with him
Dale Crover is an all around genuinely nice guy. And the best drummer ever. Wow. What a revelation. Anyone on this board knows It's true. He's also a good dad. :o
Quote from: Smellis on January 18, 2013, 02:28:29 AM
Dale Crover is an all around genuinely nice guy. And the best drummer ever. Wow. What a revelation. Anyone on this board knows It's true. He's also a good dad. :o
Does he have ear protection for his kids when he hammers away?
Quote from: Schnabster on January 18, 2013, 03:49:21 AM
Quote from: Smellis on January 18, 2013, 02:28:29 AM
Dale Crover is an all around genuinely nice guy. And the best drummer ever. Wow. What a revelation. Anyone on this board knows It's true. He's also a good dad. :o
Does he have ear protection for his kids when he hammers away?
I bet he does when he plays drums too and not just for when doing the D.I.Y. around the home. :)
Quote from: Schnabster on January 18, 2013, 03:49:21 AM
Quote from: Smellis on January 18, 2013, 02:28:29 AM
Dale Crover is an all around genuinely nice guy. And the best drummer ever. Wow. What a revelation. Anyone on this board knows It's true. He's also a good dad. :o
Does he have ear protection for his kids when he hammers away?
There was a video on here that showed Dale playing with his daughter in the background. She is wearing the big over the ear cans like you would wear at a gun range or a landing strip :lol:
Quote from: jonE5 on January 18, 2013, 12:22:34 PM
a landing strip
:shock: Where do you fly from as a rule? Are you one of these people with a Cessna in his back yard?
Quote from: jules on January 18, 2013, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: jonE5 on January 18, 2013, 12:22:34 PM
a landing strip
:shock: Where do you fly from as a rule? Are you one of these people with a Cessna in his back yard?
:lol:
I was in the Air Force right out of High School.. Saw a lot of those things.
Buzz is exactly the same as his interviews, if you can handle that. Dale seems a little less talkative unless he's in the mood. I'd stick with the bass player.
Quote from: Metalhead Cow on January 15, 2013, 09:38:17 PM
Buzz and Dale are two people I have immense respect for-actually they're probably the two musicians I have the most respect for. I guess Buzz has somewhat of a reputation of being a debbie downer, and I can understand people may get tired of him bashing drugs and alcohol in interviews. You know, a lot of people smoke pot and drink casually, and I think it's easy to forget about how much exposure people like buzz has likely had with drugs over the years (I'm not saying he's done them, but certainly been around many junkies and witnessed some shit). Most people aren't professional rock musicians, especially in the sludge/doom/stoner/grunge/whatever "scene" where drugs are going to be very common. Look what happened with Kurt Cobain, Lori, and Kevin (and probably others in his life) Buzz acts very stoic and bulletproof but I'm sure that shit has affected him, more than he likes to typically let on. Every once in awhile he'll spill out some of his sensitive side in interviews, like when he talks about Kurt Cobain seriously for example. You know Kurt considered Buzz to be his mentor-Buzz was like Kurt's big brother-and to then see him end up in a downward spiral with drugs and suicide-and there was nothing he could do for Kurt...that had to have had a lasting effect on him. And he dated Lori, right? So they were pretty close and he saw her get carried away with heroin until she just couldn't be in his life anymore in any way. That's depressing. Jump ahead some years later-I really get the sense that Buzz and Dale thought they had finally found the perfect bass player with Kevin-great player, but also a band member he could be friends with, like Dale. And then Kevin's alcohol abuse came into play. Buzz has stated how upset he was about losing Kevin. So I think Buzz has certainly earned his right to have a negative outlook on drugs/booze. And he's stated that people should be able to do whatever they want, unless they don't fuck with someone else, so it's not like he believes people shouldn't be able to make their own choices with that stuff.
This.