The first song has landed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3vIxW4glK4
And here are some release details I discovered:
https://recordstoreday.com/UPC/689230027638
1. Pain Equals Funny
2. Working the Ditch
3. She's Got Weird Arms
4. Allergic to Food
5. Smiler
QuoteThe Melvins new album is like nothing the band has ever done before. Probably the best record they've ever recorded. Certainly one of their weirdest. The five song album centers around the mammoth 19-minute opening track "Pain Equals Funny" and features Buzz, Dale and Steven along with second drummer Roy Mayorga (Ministry, Soulfly, Stone Sour and Nausea) and guitarist Gary Chester (We Are The Asteroid). Vinyl comes in a Gatefold Jacket with 12pg booklet.
here's a video that'll work in the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-xueIhSdvE
Wow! Just stumbled on the YT video this morning. Took me a while to realize its a new single. I love it, heavy and droney. Buzz's voice sounds good. Mackey album cover is sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCtkn9W9GJ8
The Melvins latest opus, Tarantula Heart (April 19, Ipecac Recordings), is quite possibly the band's most unconventional and imaginative work yet, but also possibly their catchiest, continuing a legacy celebrated for its eccentric and extraordinary output.
A preview of the five-song, 39-minute collection arrives with the release of "Working The Ditch," and the accompanying Jesse Nieminen-created video. Nieminen previously directed the band's short film, "A Walk With Love and Death."
"The way we approached Tarantula Heart was different than any other Melvins' album," explains Buzz Osborne. "I had Dale and Roy Mayorga come in and play along with Steven and I to some riffs, then I took those sessions and figured out what parts would work and wrote new music to fit. This isn't a studio approach we've ever taken. Usually we have the songs written BEFORE we start recording!"
"The majority of Tarantula Heart has dual drum parts," adds long-time Melvins drummer Dale Crover. "Roy is an amazing drummer. We would discuss what we would do pattern wise, then we'd just go for it. Improvising riffs and trading off on drum fills."
In actuality nothing appeared out of thin air. Buzz spent hours and hours with the drum tracks by himself writing songs to what he was hearing drum wise. "When the rest of the band heard these songs I'd created from the sessions, they were blown away," Buzz shares. "These were fully developed new songs that they'd never heard before that had seemingly appeared out of thin air. Presto!"
Recorded, mixed and co-produced by longtime Melvins' collaborator Toshi Kasai, the album also features We Are The Asteroid guitar player Gary Chester. Gary and the Melvins' history goes back to their days on Boner Records, with the guitar player formerly having been a part of the legendary band, Ed Hall.
Tarantula Heart pre-orders (https://themelvins.lnk.to/tarantula) are available now, with the album available on a trio of vinyl variants (black, indie exclusive Silver Streak and Ipecac Recordings' 25th Anniversary Puke Green), featuring a 12-page booklet, as well as on CD and digitally.
https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/tarantula-heart
Good to see the Melvins back on Ipecac.
I like how for every release they say it's the most unconventional ever and then it sounds exactly as you could expect from a Melvins (recent) release both in term of songwriting and production. Obviously i'm loving it! :)
I just listened to the new track on the Bandcamp app while I was on the car, interesting stuff but I need to hear it again in a proper place.
Quote from: black stallion on February 06, 2024, 09:41:21 AM
I like how for every release they say it's the most unconventional ever and then it sounds exactly as you could expect from a Melvins (recent) release both in term of songwriting and production. Obviously i'm loving it! :)
:lol: :lol:
Release date was so close to 4/20....
Purchased!
the more i listen the more i like it, pretty heavy..high expectations on this album. love Buzz vocals . checked the new Dale interview before, looks like they've been working a lot on the early takes of this album, which turned out totally different as final result.i like this approach
wait.. is that a ribbon crash I hear? :shock:
Pre-ordered.
Love the single, especially the second half of it.
I am intrigued by the prospect of the 19min first track.
I love the title, i love the artwork and importantly i adore the song! Very excited. I think you can tell that the track has improv drums but it works. I'm surprised it's only 5 songs. Like with Bad Mood Rising, it seems this is a new Melvins trend - a few songs with one long track at the start of the record. I wonder if they will continue this. Regarding the unusual recording process, now i can see why it might have took a little longer to release. I remember Roy was in the studio with the band in May 2022 after the Ministry tour so that's a while ago now. April can't come soon enough! Now we just need a KingDunn album for Autumn!
Just found the track times...
19:08 Pain Equals Funny
06:32 Working The Ditch
03:39 She's Got Weird Arms
05:37 Allergic To Food
04:51 Smiler
Quote from: glen on February 06, 2024, 02:39:40 PM
wait.. is that a ribbon crash I hear? :shock:
A ribbon Gary.
sounds great.
bummer that we won't be getting a full tour any time soon to support it.
Sounds like Dale is well enough to play and tour but won't be in Australia due to how early they had to apply for visas (per latest Vinyl Guide podcast interview).
Quote from: rimb on February 06, 2024, 06:14:00 PM
Sounds like Dale is well enough to play and tour but won't be in Australia due to how early they had to apply for visas (per latest Vinyl Guide podcast interview).
What about the Melvins headline shows in Japan after that where they're playing Bad Mood Rising in full?
Still crossing my fingers BMR gets added to Bandcamp one day so I can finally get it.
King Buzzo rips off AI. That's so punk rock!
Quote from: Bigval on February 06, 2024, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: rimb on February 06, 2024, 06:14:00 PM
Sounds like Dale is well enough to play and tour but won't be in Australia due to how early they had to apply for visas (per latest Vinyl Guide podcast interview).
What about the Melvins headline shows in Japan after that where they're playing Bad Mood Rising in full?
Still crossing my fingers BMR gets added to Bandcamp one day so I can finally get it.
No, he's not going to Japan either for the same reason.
One of the cool things about new Melvins albums is how - as a fan - they always seem to integrate into my life. Like with each album i look back at it and think of my life at the time. Melvins been pretty prolific really helps to cement these different eras. The record has only just been announced and yet i am excited to think about how i will look back at 2024 in years to come and think about Tarantula Heart and my experiences at the time. I just hope they play some of the material live at some point.
Quote from: crushr24 on February 06, 2024, 06:53:27 PM
King Buzzo rips off AI. That's so punk rock!
I'm not too sure - at present - what to think about the process on this album. It's worked on the preview song yet even there some parts of the drumming don't really seem to match up too well with the song. By that i mean, i can imagine if the song had been fully pre-planned and recorded as a regular composition, that Dale would have mixed up the beats more. Placed greater emphasis on some parts as opposed to others. Yet in Working The Ditch it all just seems kinda the same thing. A drum jam without much variation. I wonder how that will play out with the other songs on the album. Surely the rest can't be the same sort of thing. Although i guess some of that awkwardness is the inclusion of Roy who definitely seems to be a much more straight ahead and standard drummer than Dale.
Quote from: rimb on February 06, 2024, 06:14:00 PM
Sounds like Dale is well enough to play and tour but won't be in Australia due to how early they had to apply for visas (per latest Vinyl Guide podcast interview).
Has it been confirmed that Coady is touring for the Melvins/Bungle show in Australia?
Quote from: jack5990 on February 06, 2024, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: rimb on February 06, 2024, 06:14:00 PM
Sounds like Dale is well enough to play and tour but won't be in Australia due to how early they had to apply for visas (per latest Vinyl Guide podcast interview).
Has it been confirmed that Coady is touring for the Melvins/Bungle show in Australia?
Yes, it has
I must've missed that news too thanks rimb.
Re: Working the Ditch I think the song is alright but I've always had a bug bear about bands video clips mimicking the title of the song. I just would've preferred the video being anything other than literally digging ditches.
Which variant do you think will have lower quantities? The Indie vinyl or the Ipecac vinyl? I personally think the Ipecac one looks cooler than the silver
Quote from: the bloat on February 06, 2024, 09:28:34 PM
Which variant do you think will have lower quantities? The Indie vinyl or the Ipecac vinyl? I personally think the Ipecac one looks cooler than the silver
The puke green is limited to 1000 copies apparently. The silver one will be widely available as it's going to indie stores around the world.
Quote from: rimb on February 06, 2024, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: the bloat on February 06, 2024, 09:28:34 PM
Which variant do you think will have lower quantities? The Indie vinyl or the Ipecac vinyl? I personally think the Ipecac one looks cooler than the silver
The puke green is limited to 1000 copies apparently. The silver one will be widely available as it's going to indie stores around the world.
I still have my doubts about the quality control of Ipecac vinyls... if I'm not mistaken there were problems with previous albums being warped, although the puke edition sure looks cool.
p psyched on this almost 20 min intro track, especially w additional musicians ie roy mayorga and gary chester- i usually dont order so early on these ipecac releases,
but for some reason on this i did so almost instantly haha
.. looks like the puke green version is sold out through blixt/ipecac webstore and whatever allotment they had, but its still available on their bandcamp, at least for now
https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/tarantula-heart (https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/tarantula-heart)
Quote from: laptop sorcery on February 07, 2024, 02:28:12 AM
Quote from: the bloat on February 06, 2024, 11:57:39 AM
Release date was so close to 4/20....
:toke: :toke: lol
Pinkus abortion technician came out on 4/20. just sayin I remember that. ..surprisingly.
I'm just happy to hear dual drumming on a Melvins record again. Even if it's on improvised grooves.
The song is cool. Wonder if any of the rest of it will be more hooky or upbeat. I wouldn't mind a full record of this, though. We'll see.
For a dude who loves film so much, I'm amazed that the Melvins have never really knocked it out of the park with a music video. It's not bad, a little on-the-nose as someone else mentioned. Not much to really watch happen in six minutes.
The final track on the album 'Smiler' keeps making me think of the rollercoaster ride of the same name at Alton Towers over here which had a high profile accident in 2015. I hope it's not about that.
rod stewart did covers album in the 70s called smiler. that's the first thing i thought of.
Is Gary Chester on Working The Ditch? I can hear some guitar noise under the main song but i'm not very familiar with his playing so i don't know if it's all Buzz in this one or not.
Quote from: crushr24 on February 06, 2024, 06:53:27 PM
King Buzzo rips off AI. That's so punk rock!
Not really. It's called xenochrony. AI is the modern lazy version of it. Zappa basically started this, and perfected it on albums like One Size Fits All and Sheik Yerbouti. I think it's awesome that Buzz is constructing a Melvins album using this approach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony
Love this about Ipecac. The album is available on Bandcamp in CD and black vinyl plus the limited green variant for only $1 more. That's a no brainer. This record has a single Melvins song with dual drums at 19 minutes. Perfect one side of an LP. So I ordered the green plus CD and came out right around $50 with shipping. https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/tarantula-heart
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on February 07, 2024, 11:33:17 PM
Love this about Ipecac. The album is available on Bandcamp in CD and black vinyl plus the limited green variant for only $1 more. That's a no brainer. This record has a single Melvins song with dual drums at 19 minutes. Perfect one side of an LP. So I ordered the green plus CD and came out right around $50 with shipping. https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/tarantula-heart
$41.75 USD for shipping to Australia....
:microwave:
Preordered. Hoping for detailed liner notes about who is playing on each track.
I doubt there will be detailed liner notes. I think it's more like Hold It In in that there pictures of each participant and it's up to the listener to try to figure out who is who on each song. The 12 page booklet is likely two giant black and white photos and eight pages of cute-but-violent totems. Just my cynical bet.
Is anyone else looking at the title of 'Working The Ditch' and instead keep thinking 'Working With God' or 'Working The Bitch'??
Quote from: POOP GRENADE on February 08, 2024, 09:28:01 AM
Preordered. Hoping for detailed liner notes about who is playing on each track.
That's never the case with Melvins albums that have guests(see Pigs Of The Roman Empire, Love/Death). The booklet will be full on Mackie Art with names of who's involved and that's it.
just checking out the Walking with Love & Death musique concrete soundtrack for the first time in years wondering..... "is that Joey Santiago on guitar? maybe it's this one?" #-o ](*,)
yeah, so funny. dad-gum melvins
I could be very wrong, but i have a positive feeling about this album. I have a sense it might be one of their recent best ones. I certainly hope so anyway.
Working the ditch sounds like the first 10 seconds of Teet...the intro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3-bYlqYUvQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3-bYlqYUvQ)
Good call. I hear that.
I keep thinking this album might be like the companion album to Bad Mood Rising as NWB was to (A)SA. I hope the rest of the record is similar to the single and heavy throughout. No goofy tracks.
Mostly depends how goofy Dale got. Roy doesn't seem like that kind of player. I think this was serious percussing.
We can be pretty sure there's no Steven sung songs since he didn't even know he was playing on it.
I guess Buzz could always do like "Hammering" or "Doctor Mule" and kind of go into a weird classic rock or new wave singing style.
working the ditch fucking hits, loving the dual guitars/ drumming and digging the quieter effect-laden vocal parts-
This is Melvins as I like it!
The troll in me hopes the 19 minute song is just like a 1983 novelty tune repeated ad nauseum. Like the worst car trip backseat chant ever. I'd probably hate that but I'd also love how much some other people hate it.
But, hey! If that song's anything like what the press release actually described then I'm all in.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on February 17, 2024, 02:19:41 AM
The troll in me hopes the 19 minute song is just like a 1983 novelty tune repeated ad nauseum. Like the worst car trip backseat chant ever. I'd probably hate that but I'd also love how much some other people hate it.
But, hey! If that song's anything like what the press release actually described then I'm all in.
it'd better be some proper 70s Rush space saga shit. [-X
In one of the blurbs they mention Pain Equals Funny being inspired or created similar to Mr Dog. So i wonder if it will take on a style in the vein of that song. A little disjointed perhaps. With Buzz's fascination with making songs with multiple parts, i have a feeling it won't be exactly ONE long song as it were but a collection of things sewed together.
Will definitely pre-order the CD(not from Ipecac store) along with the new HoF which comes out on the same day. Will thrown in whatever else to get the free shipping. May order the vinyl too, separately.
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on February 18, 2024, 04:01:10 PMWill definitely pre-order the CD(not from Ipecac store) along with the new HoF which comes out on the same day. Will thrown in whatever else to get the free shipping. May order the vinyl too, separately.
I'm gonna get Melvins, HOF and Whores together. Amazing they all come out over the course of a week!
i ordered the vinyl from Blixt and will get the cd elsewhere. don't want to wait for the cd if and when the vinyl gets delayed (finally learned my lesson on that one). :? :anonymous:
Has anyone else noticed that Working The Ditch seems to start like it has followed on or flowed directly from the previous track on the album? It starts very abruptly.
Quote from: vince furnier on February 17, 2024, 06:31:44 AMQuote from: amazonAMAZON on February 17, 2024, 02:19:41 AMThe troll in me hopes the 19 minute song is just like a 1983 novelty tune repeated ad nauseum. Like the worst car trip backseat chant ever. I'd probably hate that but I'd also love how much some other people hate it.
But, hey! If that song's anything like what the press release actually described then I'm all in.
it'd better be some proper 70s Rush space saga shit. [-X
Melvinized version of 'subdivision's' that's 20 minutes long. Haw haw.
I just hope there isn't too much weirdness or wacky invention. I want a solid, no bullshit Melvins album. If the rest of the tracks are on par with the single then it's probably going to be my favourite Melvins record since (A)SA or POTRE! I have high hopes but with any new Melvins record i know not to get too carried away. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the other 4 tracks are heavy hitters.
QuoteIf the rest of the tracks are on par with the single then it's probably going to be my favourite Melvins record since (A)SA or POTRE!
Did you like BMR? That one was pretty straightforward, no-nonsense, right?
Quote from: the bloat on February 21, 2024, 02:36:23 PMQuoteIf the rest of the tracks are on par with the single then it's probably going to be my favourite Melvins record since (A)SA or POTRE!
Did you like BMR? That one was pretty straightforward, no-nonsense, right?
I liked and still like it but that's about as far as i'd go. I don't consider it a classic from the band. Probably a step down from their better releases. The first two tracks are cool but the last 4 not so much in my opinion. I'd give it a solid 8/10.
File that one under kooky Melvins tracks! Sounds a bit tossed off and throwaway to me. Hmm, my expectations suddenly lower again!
Vocals remind me of that one track from the Mike and Melvins Record..Annnnaaaallisssssaaaaaaa
Quote from: Dumpster D on March 20, 2024, 09:59:25 AMVocals remind me of that one track from the Mike and Melvins Record..Annnnaaaallisssssaaaaaaa
Yes!!!! I thought it reminded me of some other Melvins track that i couldn't pin point and i think you hit the nail on the head there.
Quote from: Dumpster D on March 20, 2024, 09:59:25 AMVocals remind me of that one track from the Mike and Melvins Record..Annnnaaaallisssssaaaaaaa
did you know that's a PIL cover?
I'm not saying this is a bad song but i do really wish the band would stop doing these quirky, almost novelty tracks. I guess they worked hard on it but crucially it never FEELS that way. It feels completely thrown out and as i said tossed off. Like they say "okay that's done... next one!!". There doesn't really seem much substance there and that's important i think. I've been listening to the new Pallbearer track and recently Opeth and okay probably not many here are fans of either of those acts but at least the songs feel classy, have substance and make you feel something. It's a real night and day experience when compared with Melvins.
i can see your point there...been listening to this track now, i guess it's not bad, problem is the song structure is the same from start to finish...they could have done something a bit more unpredictable, a change maybe..a different riff. btw, i can hear a bit of a Cows influence here and there
that latest track is Gary Chester doing his thing at it's finest. I swear Buzz must have directed him to make Ed Hall noises. :banana:
I get this feeling like Buzz is at that point where he's paying hommage. first with the PAT album featuring Paul and Pinkus and now this.
and I for one am completely onboard considering my festering obsession with Texas 90's drug rock.
Quote from: glen on March 20, 2024, 02:06:46 PMfirst with the PAT album featuring Paul and Pinkus and now this.
I think you mean Hold It In. But i see what you mean.
Btw, listening to these new songs you can tell drums recording is from a different session than the rest...
I think it's funny how if you go to the YouTube listing and look at the comments, everybody fucking loves it, like it's the best song the Melvins have ever recorded. Contrast that to the 10 Melvin's super fans (us) and it's a bit... lukewarm.
I'm hoping this song grows on me. I usually only listen to these pre-release songs once or twice before the album comes out. You don't wanna get tired of a song before the record even drops, right?
I find this one very upsetting
Quote from: the bloat on March 20, 2024, 10:03:11 PMI think it's funny how if you go to the YouTube listing and look at the comments, everybody fucking loves it, like it's the best song the Melvins have ever recorded. Contrast that to the 10 Melvin's super fans (us) and it's a bit... lukewarm.
I'm hoping this song grows on me. I usually only listen to these pre-release songs once or twice before the album comes out. You don't wanna get tired of a song before the record even drops, right?
there's a big Melvins fanbase that started listening/discovered the band during the BB era or even later
Yep, the kind who don't even know what a BBS is.
BTW is there a Melvins discord? Or maybe Ipecac discord? Which current band would be discord size and Melvins adjacent? Hmmm...
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 21, 2024, 06:32:32 AMYep, the kind who don't even know what a BBS is.
BTW is there a Melvins discord? Or maybe Ipecac discord? Which current band would be discord size and Melvins adjacent? Hmmm...
that would be me. we're not very active....yet. :lol:
https://discord.com/channels/1051853486943371334/1051853487425720402 (https://discord.com/channels/1051853486943371334/1051853487425720402)
I didn't love the new song on first listen but hey i was at work and didn't even finish it. i will give it another go most definitely. Also I like Opeth, saw them open for Mastodon a couple of years ago, slowly getting in to their discography. Man the new song I can't quit is that new one from High on Fire, cool video too.
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on March 21, 2024, 07:47:42 AMthe new song I can't quit is that new one from High on Fire, cool video too.
Same here. I hope you mean the video where you see them recording and not that terrible A.I. one!
either one, i like them both.
Assuming the band ever play any of these new songs live, i wonder if it could be tricky to do so. I mean so far due to nature of how they were recorded, the drumming on both of the preview songs seems quite disjointed from the actual songs. I can imagine Dale wanting to play along to the SONG and do what the it seems to suggest it should do and be. Yet the recordings run slightly counter to that. Not really matching up like other Melvins songs.
agreed. after revisiting it, the riff thing that makes up the song is almost like in the background. and someone else said about it not changing at all and i thing that's a dig i agree with because it just repeats and repeats for dang near 5 minutes before fading out. I'm sure i could not make it and i know buzz worked hard on it and it wasn't easy but certainly not my favorite song.
variety and something different is nothing to scoff at though.
A few days on, Allergic To Food doesn't sound as bad as i thought. But echoing the previous thoughts, it is very one dimensional and probably too long for what it is. I hope the other 3 tracks we haven't heard yet are much more song orientated.
Looks like Dale & the other drummer jammed one day in the studio improvising a few drum patterns and recording them. after that Buzz worked on the music in a separate session, that's a weird approach because usually they create songs around Buzz riffs. This could explain that one- dimensional effect that both tracks have (to me the first song got pretty much the same formula).
The new tune fucking rules! That rhythm section is just intense in the perfect way. The vocals and lead guitars are just ornaments on a fucking monster devil of a Christmas tree.
The guitar solo and vocals style do remind me of some Buzz tracks in recent years that are not top of the pile. I'm guessing that Gary on lead guitar? I don't know. It's very similar to some of Buzz's chromatic playing, but the feel and tone is a bit different.
The video is stressful to have on, but it totally fits the song. I am super super pumped for this record.
long time lurker who hasn't posted in like a decade checking in:
i gotta say, i'm shocked that "allergic to food" isn't universally loved here, especially amongst long time fans - this is the noisiest, weirdest thing they've done in a LONG time (barring the TG tribute). after stephen macdonald joined i began to lose interest (although they still crush it live) -- the vocal harmonies and same-y sounding drum production from album to album just doesn't hit right with me.. but "tarantula heart," so far, is the most excited i've been about a new melvins record in years (again discounting the TG record, which i loved)
to each their own, of course, i'm just surprised to see so many people "meh" on this one.
By the way, is there an actual canadian version of Ipecac Recordings? Because according to Juno, the pre-order of the album is from Ipecac Canada...
https://www.juno.co.uk/products/melvins-tarantula-heart-cd/1003649-01/
Welp, the records's out there in the dark corners of the internet. Just had my first listen, and I gotta say I didn't feel much of anything. It's probably not fair to fixate on the way it was made, but it kinda sounds like every song is just one simple riff with tons of stuff piled on. These songs don't have much in the way of dynamics or surprises. I dunno. It just kinda sounds like the last however many records, just jammier.
The Melvins still have never made a *bad* album, but, at this point, they've made a habit out of making mediocre ones. This is no different. They just seem lazy or tired, here. Love them, but it just kinda seems like they're farting around.
The best tune was the long one up top, although it just drifts off into half-cocked riffing at some point after an intriguing first few minutes and then starts cannibalizing "Night Goat" and "Boris" a bit.
It's not realistic to ask for "Stoner Witch" energy and composition, again, but howsabout "Brain Center at Whipples" energy? These tracks just kinda meander.
I'll listen more and hope to like it better, but I've kinda had this same experience with them for years, now, so I won't expect much to change, for me.
Melvins rule forever, but ya know. You can't rule forever.
Another review here too.
https://www.metalsucks.net/2024/04/09/review-melvins-prove-they-still-have-something-to-say-on-tarantula-heart/
I'd love to hear other board members take on the new album too! Here is a short blurb I found online: https://www.musicconnection.com/album-review-tarantula-heart-by-melvins-8-10/
Quote from: benton netty on April 09, 2024, 04:37:37 PMWelp, the records's out there in the dark corners of the internet. Just had my first listen, and I gotta say I didn't feel much of anything. It's probably not fair to fixate on the way it was made, but it kinda sounds like every song is just one simple riff with tons of stuff piled on. These songs don't have much in the way of dynamics or surprises. I dunno. It just kinda sounds like the last however many records, just jammier.
The Melvins still have never made a *bad* album, but, at this point, they've made a habit out of making mediocre ones. This is no different. They just seem lazy or tired, here. Love them, but it just kinda seems like they're farting around.
The best tune was the long one up top, although it just drifts off into half-cocked riffing at some point after an intriguing first few minutes and then starts cannibalizing "Night Goat" and "Boris" a bit.
It's not realistic to ask for "Stoner Witch" energy and composition, again, but howsabout "Brain Center at Whipples" energy? These tracks just kinda meander.
I'll listen more and hope to like it better, but I've kinda had this same experience with them for years, now, so I won't expect much to change, for me.
Melvins rule forever, but ya know. You can't rule forever.
Quote from: benton netty on April 09, 2024, 04:37:37 PMWelp, the records's out there in the dark corners of the internet. Just had my first listen, and I gotta say I didn't feel much of anything. It's probably not fair to fixate on the way it was made, but it kinda sounds like every song is just one simple riff with tons of stuff piled on.
haven't listened to it yet, besides the two songs that have leaked ,but i totally see your point
Had my first listen through and tend to agree with benton's comments above sadly.
If (like me) you've found the last decades worth of albums to be generally a sludgy mess with few memorable moments, I think the best thing they can do at this point is at least get a new producer involved to try and shake something loose.
I haven't heard the new album yet apart from that long track, but otherwise I agree with everything you say.
Fortunately Melvins are still one of the best live bands on the planet, and as long as they keep delivering that energy on stage and I get to see them every other year I'm fine and can do without new albums.
But yeah, a different producer sounds like a good idea.
That collaboration with Helms Alee kinda proves the point, that to me was the best stuff they've released in the last decade.
Quote from: benton netty on April 09, 2024, 04:37:37 PMWelp, the records's out there in the dark corners of the internet. Just had my first listen, and I gotta say I didn't feel much of anything. It's probably not fair to fixate on the way it was made, but it kinda sounds like every song is just one simple riff with tons of stuff piled on. These songs don't have much in the way of dynamics or surprises. I dunno. It just kinda sounds like the last however many records, just jammier.
The Melvins still have never made a *bad* album, but, at this point, they've made a habit out of making mediocre ones. This is no different. They just seem lazy or tired, here. Love them, but it just kinda seems like they're farting around.
The best tune was the long one up top, although it just drifts off into half-cocked riffing at some point after an intriguing first few minutes and then starts cannibalizing "Night Goat" and "Boris" a bit.
It's not realistic to ask for "Stoner Witch" energy and composition, again, but howsabout "Brain Center at Whipples" energy? These tracks just kinda meander.
I'll listen more and hope to like it better, but I've kinda had this same experience with them for years, now, so I won't expect much to change, for me.
Melvins rule forever, but ya know. You can't rule forever.
wasn't the recording with Helms Alee still produced by Toshi?
Quote from: rimb on April 10, 2024, 01:54:38 AMI think the best thing they can do at this point is at least get a new producer involved to try and shake something loose.
I don't think that would change too much - Buzz would still write the same material. Although it might sound better. Sometimes i think he just fixates too much on weirdness. I mean some of the absolute worst Melvins things they have put on their records were due to just being purposely silly or stupid. Both of the 1983 albums and Basses Loaded in particular - all those godawful comedy tracks. I'm not too happy he is planning a third '83 album.
They've never really done it since (A)SA or NWB but i keep longing for a solid album. One with no nonsense tracks or goofy offshoots. Just a collection of solid songs that make for a no nonsense, consistent statement.
i don't understand how bad can't be the same as mediocre. :lol:
Some things that I have learned recently listening to interviews and from working with Toshi myself.
Buzz seems to dislike the production used during the "Atlantic" era (he says those records all sounds overproduced) and dislikes the approach taken on their first couple of records (he says the songs all sound over-rehearsed).
In regards to the production - I personally love the production of the music during the Mark Deutrom era in the band - the music was recorded to tape (I don't care what anyone says, tape sounds better), and they spent a lot of time making the music sound audibly as weird as the music itself already was. Prick, Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky, AmRep singles, Tora Tora Tora, Interstellar Overdrive 10" etc. all SOUND amazing and fucked up to my ears.
In regards to over-rehearsed, not sure there was much choice in that matter given the complexity of the music on Gluey Porch Treatments and Ozma. That shit is complex and weird. You don't just wing that shit and have it sound as tight and amazing. Again - sounds amazing to my ears.
In regards to working with Toshi. I recorded one record with him at Sound of Sirens. He is an amazing person to work with - efficient, positive, helpful, funny, smart - no nonsense at all! We arrived in the morning and were set up in no time at all (the studio is set for efficiency). We recorded the entire record in one day, one take for each song. There was one bass line that Toshi heard me clam on, and he worked with me through about 10 punch-ins until he felt it was the right one. And it was. No pressure at all working with him. He gets great sound, but - the music is recorded digitally, so there are natural limitations on sonics compared to tape.
I think Toshi is the perfect fit for how Buzz likes to work. Get in, get the shit recorded, get out. The production is in the concepts (double drums, double basses, acoustic bass, acoustic band, Tarantula Heart approach).
Buzz knows what he is doing and how he wants to do it and I guarantee you, he calls all of the major shots. If Toshi was given free reign, and the time to create something sonically insane on the level of Stoner Witch - he totally could. But they don't have Joe Baressi's studio, tape, weeks, and thousands of Atlantic dollars to spend. Just listen to Toshi's solo albums - they are weird as hell!
While I tend to agree that the overall output is not like it was in the "glory days" where you could have perfection from Gluey Porch Treatments through The Bootlicker (sorry, The Crybaby is my second least favorite Melvins album). Since Toshi has been involved, you have masterpieces such as Hostile Ambient Takeover, (A) Senile Animal, Freak Puke and Bad Mood Rising that are on the level if not better than than some of the initial run of albums.
Just like with Buzz and Electric Guitars instead of Les Pauls - he is gonna do what he wants to do regardless of what anyone else thinks or says. And if it results in masterpieces every fourth album or so - call me fucking stoked. Even the albums that kind of THUD!, always have at least 3 masterpiece songs.
(also, I tend to think that Buzz has been talking about disliking the production on the Atlantic era as retaliation for Mark D's video series which talks a lot about how important the production of those albums were - but that is just my speculation - what the fuck do I really know? Buzz may not even know those videos exist!)
Quote(also, I tend to think that Buzz has been talking about disliking the production on the Atlantic era as retaliation for Mark D's video series which talks a lot about how important the production of those albums were - but that is just my speculation - what the fuck do I really know? Buzz may not even know those videos exist!)
You might be on to something. Mark seems to rub some people the wrong way, and I'm not exactly sure why, yet.
Quote from: PepsiMike on April 10, 2024, 01:13:47 PMQuote(also, I tend to think that Buzz has been talking about disliking the production on the Atlantic era as retaliation for Mark D's video series which talks a lot about how important the production of those albums were - but that is just my speculation - what the fuck do I really know? Buzz may not even know those videos exist!)
You might be on to something. Mark seems to rub some people the wrong way, and I'm not exactly sure why, yet.
My guess - and this is only a guess - is that in the case of the Melvins, Mark is a serious artist and Buzz is a serious artist. There were probably times where that made for an amazing result (see Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky) and while at the same time it could have painful for one or both of them to work together. I think Mark is very professional when it comes to music and the music business, while Buzz is more "punk rock" in his approach to both. Differences like that can be hard to deal with in a band environment - and I imagine harder in a band that works for a living.
The way I look at it, it's like when The Beatles broke up - they HAD to. Paul became a band leader, and it was no longer going to be able to operate because George is not a session player and each of those guys are stars in their own right.
On a personal level, Mark is a seriously sweet guy - love him. He also really knows his shit, which can rub people the wrong way I guess? But then, I haven't met a Melvin that wasn't a total sweetie. Except Matt Lukin. I have never met him. But I doubt he is a sweetie!!! hahaha!
Quote from: John Schuller on April 10, 2024, 12:26:11 PMSome things that I have learned recently listening to interviews and from working with Toshi myself.
Buzz seems to dislike the production used during the "Atlantic" era (he says those records all sounds overproduced) and dislikes the approach taken on their first couple of records (he says the songs all sound over-rehearsed).
In regards to the production - I personally love the production of the music during the Mark Deutrom era in the band - the music was recorded to tape (I don't care what anyone says, tape sounds better), and they spent a lot of time making the music sound audibly as weird as the music itself already was. Prick, Stoner Witch, Stag, Honky, AmRep singles, Tora Tora Tora, Interstellar Overdrive 10" etc. all SOUND amazing and fucked up to my ears.
In regards to over-rehearsed, not sure there was much choice in that matter given the complexity of the music on Gluey Porch Treatments and Ozma. That shit is complex and weird. You don't just wing that shit and have it sound as tight and amazing. Again - sounds amazing to my ears.
In regards to working with Toshi. I recorded one record with him at Sound of Sirens. He is an amazing person to work with - efficient, positive, helpful, funny, smart - no nonsense at all! We arrived in the morning and were set up in no time at all (the studio is set for efficiency). We recorded the entire record in one day, one take for each song. There was one bass line that Toshi heard me clam on, and he worked with me through about 10 punch-ins until he felt it was the right one. And it was. No pressure at all working with him. He gets great sound, but - the music is recorded digitally, so there are natural limitations on sonics compared to tape.
I think Toshi is the perfect fit for how Buzz likes to work. Get in, get the shit recorded, get out. The production is in the concepts (double drums, double basses, acoustic bass, acoustic band, Tarantula Heart approach).
Buzz knows what he is doing and how he wants to do it and I guarantee you, he calls all of the major shots. If Toshi was given free reign, and the time to create something sonically insane on the level of Stoner Witch - he totally could. But they don't have Joe Baressi's studio, tape, weeks, and thousands of Atlantic dollars to spend. Just listen to Toshi's solo albums - they are weird as hell!
While I tend to agree that the overall output is not like it was in the "glory days" where you could have perfection from Gluey Porch Treatments through The Bootlicker (sorry, The Crybaby is my second least favorite Melvins album). Since Toshi has been involved, you have masterpieces such as Hostile Ambient Takeover, (A) Senile Animal, Freak Puke and Bad Mood Rising that are on the level if not better than than some of the initial run of albums.
Just like with Buzz and Electric Guitars instead of Les Pauls - he is gonna do what he wants to do regardless of what anyone else thinks or says. And if it results in masterpieces every fourth album or so - call me fucking stoked. Even the albums that kind of THUD!, always have at least 3 masterpiece songs.
(also, I tend to think that Buzz has been talking about disliking the production on the Atlantic era as retaliation for Mark D's video series which talks a lot about how important the production of those albums were - but that is just my speculation - what the fuck do I really know? Buzz may not even know those videos exist!)
Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing, John
QuoteJust like with Buzz and Electric Guitars instead of Les Pauls - he is gonna do what he wants to do regardless of what anyone else thinks or says. And if it results in masterpieces every fourth album or so - call me fucking stoked. Even the albums that kind of THUD!, always have at least 3 masterpiece songs.
I think this is a solid point. If Buzz only made music for the approval of others, then we'd all be fucked... and this forum probably wouldn't exist
I have met Mark in recent years briefly and interacted a bit online. He is great and I adore his work and work ethic. It does seem, though, like this is a grown-up Mark that didn't exist yet back in the Atlantic days. Not that I ever think he was a bad person or anything, but I could see a younger Mark having a chip on his shoulder and butting heads with young Buzz. Buzz has always had strong opinions but less formal education and perhaps a more limited worldview.
Probably Buzz is the only human being on this planet not liking the production of Melvins Atlantic era's albums :lol:
Quote from: black stallion on April 11, 2024, 11:04:18 AMProbably Buzz is the only human being on this planet not liking the production of Melvins Atlantic era's albums :lol:
I know. Like it would be cool if they re-recorded them, but they are so good that I can't imagine that they could improve upon them.
Quote from: moose on April 11, 2024, 01:29:48 PMQuote from: black stallion on April 11, 2024, 11:04:18 AMProbably Buzz is the only human being on this planet not liking the production of Melvins Atlantic era's albums :lol:
I know. Like it would be cool if they re-recorded them, but they are so good that I can't imagine that they could improve upon them.
Yes.
He mentions that the Atlantic sessions sound 'overproduced', but you listen to the current sessions, maybe expecting something more raw, and . . It's just different.
My biggest complaint with Melvins recordings of the late Toshi years is lack of crack on the snare. I hope this on eis different. I haven't studied the videos because I didn't want to burn the songs out before I hear the album. What do you guys think of the drum sound on this one? Does Roy get more transient on the snare and toms?
Have you guys seen the announced listening party for Tarantula Heart? Since i don't have a Bandcamp account, i'm currently wondering if it is really worth signing up just to hear the new album 2 days before release.
Incidentally have you noticed that it doesn't seem to be a thing anymore where an album is streamable a week before it's release date? I remember Melvins did that a few times previously but not now. The funniest was how Basses Loaded got a special stream preview on some American baseball site!
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 11, 2024, 08:09:47 PMMy biggest complaint with Melvins recordings of the late Toshi years is lack of crack on the snare. I hope this on eis different. I haven't studied the videos because I didn't want to burn the songs out before I hear the album. What do you guys think of the drum sound on this one? Does Roy get more transient on the snare and toms?
i don't think the drum sound was bad on these tracks..problem is that both the two new songs is like the music and drums are not perfectly in synch..it's a strange feeling, you can tell drummers were playing on different guitar riffs. can be fascinating like Buzz says, personally you miss that typical tightness Melvins got on their songs. btw, i like both the new tracks, they just sound different
Just heard the album. Hmmm not sure about this one. I'd say Working The Ditch is easily the best song by a mile!
I had hoped that the opening track would have been more of an actual composed song than a string of sections. But my suspicions were kinda right there. It's quite meandering with not much singing either so it's more of a mood piece with some rock to end on. In a few parts you might even think you are listening to one of the more exploratory Sonic Youth records. It's a little distracting that the first 5 minutes or so completely borrows the riff from Buzzo's solo song 'Bird Animal'.
'She's Got Weird Arms' falls squarely under what i term "kooky" Melvins. On first listen it sounds a little irritating. Not one of my favourite Melvins songs. Final song 'Smiler' is a step up though - a fairly typical modern Melvins rock song. Somewhat perfunctory. I can't imagine any fan will declare this one of their favourite albums from the band. I fully expect the record will grow on me with more listens though.
thanks for the insight. how are the guitar solos on the first long song?
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on April 13, 2024, 08:01:22 AMhow are the guitar solos on the first long song?
To be honest i didn't actually notice any solos but i might be wrong there. I've only heard it once so far. I need to have a better focused, headphone listen later.
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 13, 2024, 10:43:49 AMQuote from: Colonel Cheese on April 13, 2024, 08:01:22 AMhow are the guitar solos on the first long song?
To be honest i didn't actually notice any solos but i might be wrong there. I've only heard it once so far. I need to have a better focused, headphone listen later.
I'm guessing that means the Gary Chester stuff. it can be kind of minimal, especially with big drums.
Quote from: vince furnier on April 13, 2024, 10:57:54 AMQuote from: ))))(((( on April 13, 2024, 10:43:49 AMQuote from: Colonel Cheese on April 13, 2024, 08:01:22 AMhow are the guitar solos on the first long song?
To be honest i didn't actually notice any solos but i might be wrong there. I've only heard it once so far. I need to have a better focused, headphone listen later.
especially with big drums.
tell me that again :love:
A few listens later - It's totally not as poor as i thought. I ALWAYS seem to be like this with new Melvins albums. First listen in and i'm super disappointed and then things gel together a bit and eventually i enjoy it. 'Pain Equals Funny' is actually pretty cool throughout. 'Smiler' a nice finisher too. It's just 'She's Got Weird Arms' and 'Allergic To Food' that i don't much like.
That happens to me a lot with Melvins albums - sometimes they hit me right away, other times it takes a couple of listens, other times it takes a long while - for example, I think I need to go revisit A Walk with Love and Death - I heard "Sober-delic" yesterday and it really blew my mind, but I don't remember that album doing it. Maybe it will now?
I also dug deep into the two songs from the new album and really like them - they are stoney as hell. I feel like Bad Mood Rising is also really stoney. They complement a good stone perfectly. I cannot wait to get the new record on Friday!
yeah, A Walk With Love And Death was a underrated album imo
i just remember in that vinyl guide podcast interview they talk about there being like 8 solos on that one song, 4 from buzz and 4 from gary, guess that may have been a joke maybe?
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on April 15, 2024, 07:49:28 AMi just remember in that vinyl guide podcast interview they talk about there being like 8 solos on that one song, 4 from buzz and 4 from gary, guess that may have been a joke maybe?
like Judas Priest? with a breakdown of who's playing which lead break or solo in the liner notes? :lol:
lol!
i just got excited to hear so many
Quote from: vince furnier on April 15, 2024, 07:59:40 AMQuote from: Colonel Cheese on April 15, 2024, 07:49:28 AMi just remember in that vinyl guide podcast interview they talk about there being like 8 solos on that one song, 4 from buzz and 4 from gary, guess that may have been a joke maybe?
like Judas Priest? with a breakdown of who's playing which lead break or solo in the liner notes? :lol:
8)
I wouldn't say they are typical solos that one might imagine when you think "guitar solo". About the last half of the song is Buzz and Gary but not really trading off between each other. Just more of a soundscape of guitar.
far out
BM gave the album 9/10 and a tour with Mr.Bungle is set to be announced too.
QuoteThis deep into their career, it's mind-blowing that the MELVINS are this good, and that they are arguably better than ever with "Tarantula Heart". That's impressive for a band that never stands in place. They're set to tour very soon alongside label mates MR. BUNGLE. Patton and his cohorts need to be on top of their game, because the maniacs in the MELVINS have yet again pushed the envelope right off the table.
https://blabbermouth.net/reviews/tarantula-heart
Just got my blixt CD+LP shipment today. Looks great in the translucent green.
The LP is interesting. It comes with a stapled booklet that is the size of a seven inch record. It is the same booklet as inside the CD digipak, except it has four fewer panels (two full page spreads). These are both Mackie pieces with no verbiage that are nearly indistinguishable from the other album/booklet art but I figured I'd still call it out.
The art looks great. It's a pretty cohesive set of Mackie art, playful but with plenty of menace. Totally on brand with the last ten years of Melvins albums, but distinctive in its palette.
Haven't listened through yet as it's a full household and I'm a dad.
With only a few days remaining until the official release, I'll share my take on the Melvins' latest album and the contents within. While I've only spent a few days with it, I've put Tarantula Heart through the paces on car stereo, home hi-fi and headphones, looping it over and over again.
With confidence, I can say this one stands alone in the Melvins' discography. It's as unique an offering as anything they've done and features some of the meanest riffs, nastiest tones and spaciest interludes laid to tape.
TH is a further exploration on the Melvins longer, more lumbering meditations found on Side A of Bad Mood Rising, however, this one has depth. Layers of lock step drums and heavy riffage bound in gauzy layers of noise. Upon repeated listens you'll begin to appreciate the textures as these are not merely tossed-off guitar experiments pasted on top of double drum tracks.
Pain Equals Funny has four parts. Patched together with disparate beats, each is its own beast. The first two parts are straight forward rockers, the third, a menacing guitar dirge and the fourth is built around a Buzzo riff seething with vitriol. Thumbs way up.
She's Got Weird Arms kicks off with a curdled guitar scale, played repeatedly until unfolding into Melvins pop, complete with Steven background vocals. It's a breather between the two dense songs that come before and after. It sounds different than any Melvins songs I've heard before. Maybe a moldy kin to Brass Cupcake?
Smiler is worth the price of admission. A classic Buzzo scorcher that sounds like a Maggot-era deep cut, complete with endless guitar noodling. It's a blast to listen to.
You've heard Working the Ditch and Allergic to Food by now. I gave them one listen each upon their release and haven't returned to them until I could play them alongside the other tracks. With each listen, I find new things to like and they make a lot more sense within the context of the album sequencing.
It's brain-pickling to think about how inventive this band continues to be this far into their career.
Just received my "puke green" vinyl yesterday. 8)
Does anybody know if the 12-page booklet is going to be on the CD edition as well?
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 15, 2024, 07:54:35 PMThe LP is interesting. It comes with a stapled booklet that is the size of a seven inch record. It is the same booklet as inside the CD digipak, except it has four fewer panels (two full page spreads).
Quote from: PepsiMike on April 16, 2024, 10:10:20 AMQuote from: amazonAMAZON on April 15, 2024, 07:54:35 PMThe LP is interesting. It comes with a stapled booklet that is the size of a seven inch record. It is the same booklet as inside the CD digipak, except it has four fewer panels (two full page spreads).
Do'h! My bad :lol:
Quote from: the bloat on April 16, 2024, 09:11:59 AMWith only a few days remaining until the official release, I'll share my take on the Melvins' latest album and the contents within. While I've only spent a few days with it, I've put Tarantula Heart through the paces on car stereo, home hi-fi and headphones, looping it over and over again.
With confidence, I can say this one stands alone in the Melvins' discography. It's as unique an offering as anything they've done and features some of the meanest riffs, nastiest tones and spaciest interludes laid to tape.
TH is a further exploration on the Melvins longer, more lumbering meditations found on Side A of Bad Mood Rising, however, this one has depth. Layers of lock step drums and heavy riffage bound in gauzy layers of noise. Upon repeated listens you'll begin to appreciate the textures as these are not merely tossed-off guitar experiments pasted on top of double drum tracks.
Pain Equals Funny has four parts. Patched together with disparate beats, each is its own beast. The first two parts are straight forward rockers, the third, a menacing guitar dirge and the fourth is built around Buzzo riff seething with vitriol. Thumbs way up.
She's Got Weird Arms kicks off with a curdled guitar scale, played repeatedly until unfolding into Melvins pop, complete with Steven background vocals. It's a breather between the two dense songs that come before and after. It sounds different than any Melvins songs I've heard before. Maybe a moldy kin to Brass Cupcake?
Smiler is worth the price of admission. A classic Buzzo scorcher that sounds like a Maggot-era deep cut, complete with endless guitar noodling. It's a blast to listen to.
You've heard Working the Ditch and Allergic to Food by now. I gave them one listen each upon their release and haven't returned to them until I could play them alongside the other tracks. With each listen, I find new things to like and they make a lot more sense within the context of the album sequencing.
It's brain-pickling to think about how inventive this band continues to be, this far into their career.
Just received my "puke green" vinyl yesterday. 8)
Great review, thanks
After around a week of listening i think i'm going to give it an 8/10. That seems to be pretty much my standard score i give to all new Melvins albums. It doesn't deserve a 9 and it's not poor enough to be a 7. Somewhere on par with Bad Mood Rising.
I agree it's on par with Bad Mood Rising. I love it. It's both familiar and novel, which is a hard balance to strike. "Pain Equals Funny" is best bang for your buck of course. But if you count that as four songs, then my favorite is still probably "Allergic to Food".
I'm really happy that it's not all just five endless grooves. "Smiler" in particular sounds tricky enough that the riff and the drums gel together in a very Melvins way.
I also did not get fatigue from this recording. I think the drums are well defined. Guitars weren't too harsh. In fact the harshest sound is Buzz's new wave sneer, which I love to hear from time to time.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 16, 2024, 03:06:20 PMmy favorite is still probably "Allergic to Food".
I'm slightly baffled how anyone could rate that the best. I think it's the worst song on the record. I really wish it wasn't on it. I feel somewhat similar too with She's Got Weird Arms. Both tracks bring down the quality of the record for me. Even if that only accounts for like 8 minutes of the whole!
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 15, 2024, 07:54:35 PMJust got my blixt CD+LP shipment today. Looks great in the translucent green.
Quote from: the bloat on April 16, 2024, 09:11:59 AMJust received my "puke green" vinyl yesterday. 8)
Hey guys, since you are the firsts to receive the album, would you mind to take a few photos? I would truly appreciate that, specially to the booklet (you know, CD vs. vinyl), thanks in advance!
Another review
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/melvins-tarantula-heart-album-review/
QuoteHey guys, since you are the firsts to receive the album, would you mind to take a few photos? I would truly appreciate that, specially to the booklet (you know, CD vs. vinyl), thanks in advance!
I'll prob leave my puke LP sealed for now. I'd also love to see the booklet if anyone can share
just ordered the silver vinyl
never seen the band go this hard on social media for an album release before. this is something.
Quote from: vince furnier on April 18, 2024, 07:49:12 AMnever seen the and go this hard on social media for an album release before. this is something.
ah true, especially compared to the BMR release
I have to admit that, while it's quite tempting to order the Puke LP since it's back in stock, the shipping cost to Chile alone is fucking nuts (more than 40 bucks).
Quote from: vince furnier on April 18, 2024, 07:49:12 AMnever seen the band go this hard on social media for an album release before. this is something.
Well it's the first Ipecac album for a couple of years. Plus i guess they just feel proud of the results.
I remember that most of the discussion around BMR was not about the music itself, but the confusing-ass way that it was released. Remember, you couldn't get it digitally for quite a while!
I'm here for it. Bring on the vids. It's great to see Buzz and Dale and Toshi putting their spin on youth content.
How's everyone feeling about the whole tracklist?
Quote from: Irwin Slim on April 18, 2024, 11:39:04 PMHow's everyone feeling about the whole tracklist?
It's like an eye watering wasabi burn in my nose.
Quote from: Irwin Slim on April 18, 2024, 11:39:04 PMHow's everyone feeling about the whole tracklist?
It'd be a lot better without tracks 3 and 4!
Smiler = Pink Bat
I think the first riff of "Pain Equals Funny" is the same of "Bird Animal". Anyway great album as always
i like that soundgarden song bones of birds
I listened to the album and... well, I don't think is bad but I definitely wouldn't call it the greatest one from the last 5 years, BMR is way better and so was their work with Helms Alee... Hell, even the Throbbing Gristle tribute album was far more interesting, eccentric and challenging than this one. And what's up with "She's got weird arms", what the fuck was that? :lol: Sounds like a very stupid song in the vein of The Beatles' "When I'm Sixty-Four" or "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da".
Tarantula Heart listening party, bitches!
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Here's my review.
https://www.punknews.org/review/18006/melvins-tarantula-heart
I love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BOGZqobVuU
Is Roy wearing just one in-ear monitor? Dale wears cans. But it almost looked like Dale was hearing Buzz and Steven but Roy is just drumming along to Dale.
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Quote from: Stonergrunge on April 19, 2024, 10:16:54 AMI listened to the album and... well, I don't think is bad but I definitely wouldn't call it the greatest one from the last 5 years, BMR is way better and so was their work with Helms Alee... Hell, even the Throbbing Gristle tribute album was far more interesting, eccentric and challenging than this one. And what's up with "She's got weird arms", what the fuck was that?
I can see what you mean. I think it is a bit of a grower this album. But yeah i totally agree on '...Weird Arms' i just find it a bit cringy. Not that it's bad but come on, Melvins are SO much better than that!
Quote from: johnnyg on April 19, 2024, 10:42:13 AMHere's my review.
https://www.punknews.org/review/18006/melvins-tarantula-heart
Great review! I think the call out for Mackie's artwork is important. I like the idea of her being a member in the band - she completely owns the aesthetic of the band at this point
The new record is killer....some fresh produce on the one!
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 19, 2024, 01:57:27 PMQuote from: Stonergrunge on April 19, 2024, 10:16:54 AMI listened to the album and... well, I don't think is bad but I definitely wouldn't call it the greatest one from the last 5 years, BMR is way better and so was their work with Helms Alee... Hell, even the Throbbing Gristle tribute album was far more interesting, eccentric and challenging than this one. And what's up with "She's got weird arms", what the fuck was that?
I can see what you mean. I think it is a bit of a grower this album. But yeah i totally agree on '...Weird Arms' i just find it a bit cringy. Not that it's bad but come on, Melvins are SO much better than that!
I think you guys should stop listening to so much sludgy basic stuff and seek out some Beefheart, Monk, etc. I'm not trying to sound like a dick when I say that - I'm just confused by your initial reactions (which is just fine). This is BY FAR the best thing they've done since Freak Puke. It's good to ask yourself questions like, "what is this??" and "where did this come from??". She's Got Weird Arms has so much going on. There's so much
music in it. Listen to the DRUMS. It's got a fucked up Devo vibe and it's fantastic. The same guy who wrote that also wrote Boris, Night Goat, Hooch, Queen, etc.??
Pain Equals Funny does take from Bird Animal but why wouldn't you when that's the best song on Gift Of Sacrifice? What an epic opener.
The repeating vocal parts over the spazzy drums at the end of Working The Ditch is such a left turn for the band and it rules. There's such a great dynamic between the vocals and the drums. It shouldn't be overlooked.
Not a weak song on the album. The heavy riffs are great, the drums are great, Steven (whose style is not usually my thing) is not annoying at all, the novelty of the approach is great. This album is why I will
always give the Melvins a chance, even after a very long spell of "not for me" music.
As a Melvins fan, this is an important album.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMQuote from: ))))(((( on April 19, 2024, 01:57:27 PMQuote from: Stonergrunge on April 19, 2024, 10:16:54 AMI listened to the album and... well, I don't think is bad but I definitely wouldn't call it the greatest one from the last 5 years, BMR is way better and so was their work with Helms Alee... Hell, even the Throbbing Gristle tribute album was far more interesting, eccentric and challenging than this one. And what's up with "She's got weird arms", what the fuck was that?
I can see what you mean. I think it is a bit of a grower this album. But yeah i totally agree on '...Weird Arms' i just find it a bit cringy. Not that it's bad but come on, Melvins are SO much better than that!
I think you guys should stop listening to so much sludgy basic stuff and seek out some Beefheart, Monk, etc. I'm not trying to sound like a dick when I say that - I'm just confused by your initial reactions (which is just fine). This is BY FAR the best thing they've done since Freak Puke. It's good to ask yourself questions like, "what is this??" and "where did this come from??". She's Got Weird Arms has so much going on. There's so much music in it. Listen to the DRUMS. It's got a fucked up Devo vibe and it's fantastic. The same guy who wrote that also wrote Boris, Night Goat, Hooch, Queen, etc.??
Pain Equals Funny does take from Bird Animal but why wouldn't you when that's the best song on Gift Of Sacrifice? What an epic opener.
The repeating vocal parts over the spazzy drums at the end of Working The Ditch is such a left turn for the band and it rules. There's such a great dynamic between the vocals and the drums. It shouldn't be overlooked.
Not a weak song on the album. The heavy riffs are great, the drums are great, Steven (whose style is not usually my thing) is not annoying at all, the novelty of the approach is great. This album is why I will always give the Melvins a chance, even after a very long spell of "not for me" music.
As a Melvins fan, this is an important album.
=D>
Mints knows what's up. Really looking forward to blasting this on a long drive coming up.
He makes a valid point in a way. But still i would say as a Melvins fan i DO enjoy things they have done that sit outside of heavy or sludgy. I'm sure Stonergrunge is the same too. For me it's just that those particular songs on the album don't appeal to my sensibilities much. Which is all anyone can really ever say when declaring anything objectively bad or anything they don't take to.
On the topic of the Bird Animal riff, i have gotten used to it but i still think it would have been better having it's own distinct thing. I will now probably always think of that intro as the Bird Animal riff plus when i listen to Gift Of Sacrifice i will hear the Tarantula Heart version instead! I think that isn't a great situation to have.
i recently told someone on the fb group - many Melfans are into the heavy and can tolerate the weird part. others are the opposite. then they have friends who are into heavy stuff but find them to be entirely too weird to tolerate at all. there's a spectrum to this. everyone's take on what makes the best albums or eras is different.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMI think you guys should stop listening to so much sludgy basic stuff and seek out some Beefheart, Monk, etc. I'm not trying to sound like a dick when I say that - I'm just confused by your initial reactions (which is just fine).
Ok, first of all... what makes you think that I only listen to "sludgy basic stuff"? Have we even met before? Because I don't think so. My daily music selection not only includes Electric Wizard, WarHorse, Church Of Misery, Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats, Kyuss, Yajaira or Ufomammut but also John Coltrane, La Mano Ajena, Los Jaivas, Mostro, The Mars Volta, Tool, Seawhores, Camión, Tsunamis and many more.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMThis is BY FAR the best thing they've done since Freak Puke.
Really? Since Freak Puke? That album was released back in 2012, over a decade ago... That is not a very positive opinion I must say since they have been releasing a lot of great stuff after that: Tres Cabrones, Hold It In, Three Men and a Baby, Basses Loaded, A Walk with Love and Death, Pinkus Abortion Technician, all the EPs (Sabbath, Hot Fish, Escape from L.A., White Lazy Boy), H.A.T. Besides, Working With God, Live Stream Obscene, Five Legged Dog, Bad Mood Rising, The Devil You Knew, Throbbing Gristle and the Helms Alee EP... maybe "Bangers" is the only one that I don't think is that good but I do like a few songs like "Ornar Flyger Over America", for instance.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMIt's good to ask yourself questions like, "what is this??" and "where did this come from??". She's Got Weird Arms has so much going on. There's so much music in it. Listen to the DRUMS. It's got a fucked up Devo vibe and it's fantastic. The same guy who wrote that also wrote Boris, Night Goat, Hooch, Queen, etc.??
I agree with Ian on this, the best way to describe that song for me is "a bit cringy", like a dad joke.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMPain Equals Funny does take from Bird Animal but why wouldn't you when that's the best song on Gift Of Sacrifice? What an epic opener.
Again, really? THE best song? I can think of other songs from that album that are far more superior: "Housing, Luxury, Energy", "I'm Glad I Could Help Out" or "Science In Modern America" are absolutely top notch.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMThe repeating vocal parts over the spazzy drums at the end of Working The Ditch is such a left turn for the band and it rules. There's such a great dynamic between the vocals and the drums. It shouldn't be overlooked.
Not a weak song on the album. The heavy riffs are great, the drums are great, Steven (whose style is not usually my thing) is not annoying at all, the novelty of the approach is great.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree on several things: my overall first impression of the album is that it's a little bit sloppy and they drag a few ideas for way too long. Now, of course that can change over time since we all know that Melvins' albums are a grower, we may not like it a lot the first time but after a few listens they do get better.
Quote from: Mints on April 20, 2024, 03:20:26 PMThis album is why I will always give the Melvins a chance, even after a very long spell of "not for me" music.
As a Melvins fan, this is an important album.
Well, even though I'm not impressed with the album... Guess what? I already ordered it on CD because I know my opinion can change over time.
so many different opinions on this album, make me even more curious to discover it!
Quote from: black stallion on April 21, 2024, 08:47:41 AMso many different opinions on this album, make me even more curious to discover it!
You haven't listened to it yet!!!??? I am eager to hear your (and others) thoughts.
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 21, 2024, 08:48:16 AMQuote from: black stallion on April 21, 2024, 08:47:41 AMso many different opinions on this album, make me even more curious to discover it!
You haven't listened to it yet!!!??? I am eager to hear your (and others) thoughts.
nope Ian, waiting for my copy to arrive before checking the other songs i haven't heard yet. should arrive in two weeks apparently #-o
Quote from: black stallion on April 21, 2024, 08:47:41 AMso many different opinions on this album, make me even more curious to discover it!
I think it's the coolest thing they've done in a long time.
Quote from: Helen83 on April 21, 2024, 09:17:34 AMQuote from: black stallion on April 21, 2024, 08:47:41 AMso many different opinions on this album, make me even more curious to discover it!
I think it's the coolest thing they've done in a long time.
:o
New guy here. Listened to the new album yesterday and I really enjoyed it. I've been a "casual" Melvins fan for a long time but have decided to take a deep plunge into their catalog. :buzz:
Quote from: sHaViNgCrEaM on April 21, 2024, 12:27:46 PMNew guy here. Listened to the new album yesterday and I really enjoyed it. I've been a "casual" Melvins fan for a long time but have decided to take a deep plunge into their catalog. :buzz:
SWEET! =D>
:buzz:
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Quote from: vince furnier on April 21, 2024, 12:42:36 PM:buzz:
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:lol: :excited: :nerd:
Tarantula Heart - Melvins Deliver Again
After two listens my thoughts are coming clearer and the album is great, big, and lovely. I'm not sure what I was slightly trepidatious about before anymore. You've just got to trust them because this feels to me like yet another important interesting release. Most of these points are not new here round these parts. The songs are good, adventurous and new sounding. I felt like I did when I heard Hostile Ambient Takeover for the first time with its new sounds way back when that came out. Like we are definitely for sure treading awesome new ground here. I'm loving the format of absolutely epic first half length songs followed by more badassery on the b-side. The packaging and artwork is also deluxe and/or beefed up from current normal releases and again as it's been said it works so well. All the images and the booklet almost like a panegyric of the little girl. This goes for the lp and the cd (the cd has i think one image that the vinyl doesn't.) And you really have to give it to Buzz I guess for crafting all these EPs and LPs. He really has a knack for it because these songs flow man, perfectly. Plenty of rocking variety. I can't wait to listen to it again.
extra thoughts - i also liked my "Silver" vinyl its really bright and like white silver, i like it!
- i've liked most of their output generally over the years
- i listened to it once on vinyl, once on cd, and heard most of it on the bandcamp listening party as well
- had another thought but my kid interrupted me and i still haven't remembered what it was
of course the moment i posted that i remembered my other thought.
clutch used to have their website as www.pro-rock.com
I always thought they were one of the only bands that really could say that and properly deserve the title.
I think our boys have got them beat and maybe deserve the title more.
After a bit of a hiatus on this band, I'm keen to check out what they've been doing on this record. Never really got my interest, the diretion they werre heading since a while now
I gave it a full listen at high volume today. I love this album. With Bad Mood Rising and Tarantula Heart, I feel like the Melvins are on a winning streak. It is very psychedelic and weird.
There was a semi-negative review that made a point that I agree with: for all of the talk of how unusual the making of this album was, the end result is less avant-garde and more repetitive riffage, with the weirdness factor being a layer of noise over everything. That being said, the repetitive riffage here is quite good. I think Bad Mood Rising is a better album because it is a lot more diverse in dynamics and timbre, but this is a great mean psychedelic sludge album. Mackie's art is phenomenal, might be my favorite package since I don't know when.
My favorite part is the first quarter of Pain Equals Funny. Buzzo does not get enough credit for gorgeous melodies (see Hospital Up amongst others).
My ranking of the songs, best to worst.
1. Working The Ditch
2. Pain Equals Funny
3. Smiler
4. Allergic To Food
5. She's Got Weird Arms
Also in Pain Equals Funny when Buzz sings "call him Mr Jones" does anyone else think of Tool's Adam Jones or is it just me?
Pretty good record.
Listened to it again today - still amazing. I think this record is weird as fuck, I feel like they have finally hit peak Captain Beefheart Metal - I mean - what the hell kind of song is "She's Got Weird Arms"? And the drums all through "Pain Equals Funny" are really cool - they are driving in a way that is fairly intense. And Steven's bass sound is sick!!!! There is not a moment wasted.
Quote from: John Schuller on April 22, 2024, 06:43:19 PMListened to it again today - still amazing. I think this record is weird as fuck, I feel like they have finally hit peak Captain Beefheart Metal - I mean - what the hell kind of song is "She's Got Weird Arms"? And the drums all through "Pain Equals Funny" are really cool - they are driving in a way that is fairly intense. And Steven's bass sound is sick!!!! There is not a moment wasted.
First one to sample & loop the drum break of Pain Equals Funny at the 5:30 mark gets first prize
More than any other band, after absorbing a new Melvins album relentlessly for a couple of weeks, i then very quickly feel ready for the next one! I already feel that way again now. Most bands will tour off the back of a release for 2/3 or more years and i never feel overly eager for their next release. Yet with Melvins we always know another thing will emerge pretty soon. So that has me forever looking forward to whatever is on the horizon.
Quote from: Helen83 on April 23, 2024, 03:09:03 PMFirst one to sample & loop the drum break of Pain Equals Funny at the 5:30 mark gets first prize
challenge accepted!
well....i bought the cd at Zia records tonight on the way home from work. had the vinyl fr days but i don't listen to that shit. this album is freakin DOPE! it was the only Melvins cd i could find in the building, BTW. OUCH! they had a decent selection of Melvins vinyl but just that one cd. :lol: #-o
My CD has arrived!!
RIP packaging :cry: :lol:
Not for this one. I'm decorating at the moment and haven't got my Hi-Fi set up. So it could be a week or so before i listen to the CD and the packaging goes bye bye!
I just noticed a slight difference between the background of the cover of the CD compared to the vinyl edition, the CD cover only features red drops whereas the vinyl also shows geometrical forms and mathematical formulas.
Thank you, Ian!!! :cheers:
By the way, I understand that the booklet from the vinyl edition is not exactly the same so, if anyone could take photos that would be highly appreciated as well :D
Quote from: vince furnier on April 23, 2024, 10:35:29 PMQuote from: Helen83 on April 23, 2024, 03:09:03 PMNow pop a Schoolly D rap over that break!
First one to sample & loop the drum break of Pain Equals Funny at the 5:30 mark gets first prize
challenge accepted!
well....i bought the cd at Zia records tonight on the way home from work. had the vinyl fr days but i don't listen to that shit. this album is freakin DOPE! it was the only Melvins cd i could find in the building, BTW. OUCH! they had a decent selection of Melvins vinyl but just that one cd. :lol: #-o
I got my first "loud car play on the desert highway" in today. It's a good driving record. It's funny how with "Pain Equals Funny" moving through so many different sections it feels like an 8-10 song album.
"Allergic" is my fave for sure, but the first two sections of "Pain" are really strong, too. The "Boris" part is interesting how it sort of goes polyrhythmic then trainwreck then polyrhythmic again before dropping into a solid groove for the next part.
It's not big on hooks, even though the melodic part of the first tune is in that Gift of Sacrifice/Five Legged Dog lane. I'll have to see if any of these lyrics come back and embed themselves the way something like Bootlicker or Stoner Witch would.
The more i listen to this album the more i feel a bit lukewarm about it. At first i thought the first half of 'Pain...' was good but now i feel the second half is far more interesting and that the first half isn't very good. I'm not sure i really find this a great track as a whole. I felt 'Mister Dog...' didn't entirely work and yet it feels much more cohesive and has lots more re-listen value than 'Pain'.
I rated this album as an 8/10 but now im starting to think it's more of a 7/10. Working The Ditch is the only great song. Smiler gets somewhat close to that. The rest are kinda mediocre.
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 25, 2024, 12:01:44 PMThe more i listen to this album the more i feel a bit lukewarm about it. At first i thought the first half of 'Pain...' was good but now i feel the second half is far more interesting and that the first half isn't very good. I'm not sure i really find this a great track as a whole. I felt 'Mister Dog...' didn't entirely work and yet it feels much more cohesive and has lots more re-listen value than 'Pain'.
I rated this album as an 8/10 but now im starting to think it's more of a 7/10. Working The Ditch is the only great song. Smiler gets somewhat close to that. The rest are kinda mediocre.
You don't know whether you're coming or going.
It's a stellar album all of the way through. I think it might be in my top 10?
Quote from: John Schuller on April 25, 2024, 03:21:49 PMIt's a stellar album all of the way through. I think it might be in my top 10?
I doubt i'd even consider it for top 20!
In no particular order, my top 10 would be something like this...
The Maggot
The Bootlicker
Hostile Ambient Takeover
Pigs Of The Roman Empire
Stoner Witch
(A) Senile Animal
Five Legged Dog
Freak Puke
Bullhead
Nude With Boots
hmmm, interesting, my top 10 would be something like this:
Hostile Ambient Takeover
The Maggot
Lysol
Houdini
Pigs of The Roman Empire
Hold It In
Stag
Eggnog
Freak Puke
Gluey Porch Treatments
And I still feel there is a lot left out...
I better do some math too! (Just put Tarantula Heart on again - holy shit I love the guitar playing on this one!)
OK - let's see if I am right about my top ten.
Top Ten (no order):
1. Gluey Porch Treatments
2. Bullhead
3. Lysol
4. Stoner Witch
5. Stag
6. The Maggot
7. Hostile Ambient Takeover
8. (A) Senile Animal
9. Freak Puke
10. Bad Mood Rising
11. Tarantula Heart
Shit....my list goes to 11!!!
And I kinda want to fit Houdini and Ozma in that list too....
One thing I'd like to see in future is using a different producer/production sound/mix on their records. It doesn't excite me the way those Atlantic era records sound, production wise.
Thicc Melvins are the best Melvins
It would be hard for a new record to crack the top ten (Atlantic trilogy, Ipecac trilogy, BB stuff, Boner stuff, HAT, Ihs, Honky, etc.)
But if we are asking about best records post-BB era this might be top three. I know not to judge a Melvins record too soon.
my Top ten in no particular order:
Honky
Stoner Witch
Stag
Bullhead
Lysol
POTRE
Ozma
Maggot
HAT
Bootlicker
Quote from: (the) Razor on April 25, 2024, 07:46:19 PMOne thing I'd like to see in future is using a different producer/production sound/mix on their records. It doesn't excite me the way those Atlantic era records sound, production wise.
Thicc Melvins are the best Melvins
I doubt that is going to happen. Buzz & Dale own their own studio where they record all their stuff and their in-house producer is Toshi.
Quote from: Helen83 on April 25, 2024, 03:13:05 AMQuote from: vince furnier on April 23, 2024, 10:35:29 PMQuote from: Helen83 on April 23, 2024, 03:09:03 PMFirst one to sample & loop the drum break of Pain Equals Funny at the 5:30 mark gets first prize
challenge accepted!
Now pop a Schoolly D rap over that break!
not many Schoolly D acapellas available but hope this works for ya. had to speed up the tempo of the vox to fit the BPM of the drum break.
https://soundcloud.com/mzrpklps/pain-equals-funny-flip-yes-yes-yall-krs-one-schoolly-d (https://soundcloud.com/mzrpklps/pain-equals-funny-flip-yes-yes-yall-krs-one-schoolly-d)
I would go so far as to say, Toshi is one of the Melvins.
Quote from: John Schuller on April 26, 2024, 03:18:12 PMI would go so far as to say, Toshi is one of the Melvins.
Sir George Kasai?
Quote from: John Schuller on April 26, 2024, 03:18:12 PMI would go so far as to say, Toshi is one of the Melvins.
Agreed in a certain way. Although to me the band are just Buzz and Dale. Anyone else is just a peripheral member or passing through. However in effect, the only real Melvin is Buzz. He writes virtually all the material and decides upon the band direction etc. That is why i still consider his solo albums as Melvins albums whereas i don't see Dale's as being such.
Yeah I debate that internally, too. I definitely consider Buzz solo records to be Melvins side projects. I lean towards categorizing the DC solo or any future DC Band records as Melvins side projects. I don't consider Altamont's to be Melvins records, though.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 26, 2024, 05:38:01 PMYeah I debate that internally, too. I definitely consider Buzz solo records to be Melvins side projects. I lean towards categorizing the DC solo or any future DC Band records as Melvins side projects. I don't consider Altamont's to be Melvins records, though.
Please enlighten some of the 'guests' reading these posts with some Trivia in relation to Altamont and Acid king... possibly other related bands like Goatsnake too.
I cannot stop listening to the new album.
Damn I wish they would do a three set tour. Set #1: Bad Mood Rising (in full), Set #2: Throbbing Jazz Gristle Funk Hits (in full), Set #3: Tarantula Heart (in full).
Quote from: John Schuller on April 28, 2024, 04:01:20 PMI wish they would do a three set tour. Set #1: Bad Mood Rising (in full), Set #2: Throbbing Jazz Gristle Funk Hits (in full), Set #3: Tarantula Heart (in full).
I'd like to see that too.
Yeah I'd at least like them to do a tour of only Ipecac recordings. That would allow a GPT track or Five Legged Dog acoustic set. But there's so much underrepresented stuff in their sets.
Quote from: ))))(((( on April 28, 2024, 04:48:22 PMQuote from: John Schuller on April 28, 2024, 04:01:20 PMI wish they would do a three set tour. Set #1: Bad Mood Rising (in full), Set #2: Throbbing Jazz Gristle Funk Hits (in full), Set #3: Tarantula Heart (in full).
I'd like to see that too.
In the flesh :shock:
Another review: https://www.thesleepingshaman.com/reviews/melvins-tarantula-heart/
That is a great review.
Still loving this album.
I cannot wait to see some of this music live!!! Maybe Gary Chester can join them for a tour???
Quote from: John Schuller on May 03, 2024, 04:26:51 PMI cannot wait to see some of this music live!!!
What songs do you think they might play from the record? Personally i'd like to see Working The Ditch and Smiler. But i have a feeling they would go with She's Got Weird Arms. I can just easily imagine them performing that one. It seems like the one they would choose for some reason.
Quote from: ))))(((( on May 03, 2024, 04:31:25 PMQuote from: John Schuller on May 03, 2024, 04:26:51 PMI cannot wait to see some of this music live!!!
What songs do you think they might play from the record? Personally i'd like to see Working The Ditch and Smiler. But i have a feeling they would go with She's Got Weird Arms. I can just easily imagine them performing that one. It seems like the one they would choose for some reason.
You're probably right. But I could also see them doing two sections of "Pain = Funny" and calling it a day.
Quote from: vince furnier on April 26, 2024, 11:05:44 AMQuote from: Helen83 on April 25, 2024, 03:13:05 AMQuote from: vince furnier on April 23, 2024, 10:35:29 PMQuote from: Helen83 on April 23, 2024, 03:09:03 PMFirst one to sample & loop the drum break of Pain Equals Funny at the 5:30 mark gets first prize
challenge accepted!
Now pop a Schoolly D rap over that break!
not many Schoolly D acapellas available but hope this works for ya. had to speed up the tempo of the vox to fit the BPM of the drum break.
https://soundcloud.com/mzrpklps/pain-equals-funny-flip-yes-yes-yall-krs-one-schoolly-d (https://soundcloud.com/mzrpklps/pain-equals-funny-flip-yes-yes-yall-krs-one-schoolly-d)
Haha awesome!
Quote from: Helen83 on May 05, 2024, 09:10:36 AMQuote from: vince furnier on April 26, 2024, 11:05:44 AMQuote from: Helen83 on April 25, 2024, 03:13:05 AMQuote from: vince furnier on April 23, 2024, 10:35:29 PMQuote from: Helen83 on April 23, 2024, 03:09:03 PMFirst one to sample & loop the drum break of Pain Equals Funny at the 5:30 mark gets first prize
challenge accepted!
Now pop a Schoolly D rap over that break!
not many Schoolly D acapellas available but hope this works for ya. had to speed up the tempo of the vox to fit the BPM of the drum break.
https://soundcloud.com/mzrpklps/pain-equals-funny-flip-yes-yes-yall-krs-one-schoolly-d (https://soundcloud.com/mzrpklps/pain-equals-funny-flip-yes-yes-yall-krs-one-schoolly-d)
Haha awesome!
thanks for checkin it out 8)
had my first listen finally. good album, probably the most experimental of the recent stuff. some good moments, others a bit meh..it will probably grow on me, for the moment i'd give it a 7/10. to me this and BMR are pretty much at the same level
Working The Ditch is one of the greatest standard-length Melvins songs in years. So fucking great. If we were in the era where there was a need to release a single off this album, this would be "the number one hit with a bullet"! :lol:
on Pain Equals Funny ,part before of the drum break reminds me a bit of HAT (song Foaming).anyone?
Quote from: black stallion on May 07, 2024, 12:54:17 PMon Pain Equals Funny ,part before of the drum break reminds me a bit of HAT (song Foaming).anyone?
Yup it gets into that groove for a minute there. I don't hate it tho.
Quote from: moose on May 07, 2024, 04:04:01 PMQuote from: black stallion on May 07, 2024, 12:54:17 PMon Pain Equals Funny ,part before of the drum break reminds me a bit of HAT (song Foaming).anyone?
Yup it gets into that groove for a minute there. I don't hate it tho.
it's good, i'm not totally into the first part though
Quote from: Chief Ten Beers on May 06, 2024, 05:48:55 PMWorking The Ditch is one of the greatest standard-length Melvins songs in years. So fucking great. If we were in the era where there was a need to release a single off this album, this would be "the number one hit with a bullet"! :lol:
Totally agree with that, vid is wild too
probably my favorite release since bulls&bees.
kind of a bummer that there's no tour to support one of the best melvins albums in a while.
Nizamark! Good to see you, brother. I'd really dig if there will be a dual drummer tour with Dale and Coady and they get yo play at least one song from this album. I don't think it's a pipe dream.
Some reviews I wrote in French here:
https://www.coreandco.fr/chroniques/melvins-tarantula-heart-9866.html
https://www.coreandco.fr/chroniques/melvins-the-devil-you-knew-the-devil-you-know-9861.html
With a little distance now, i've come to the conclusion that this album is a bit poor. A very middling Melvins record that won't trouble my end of year list in the slightest.
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 19, 2024, 05:17:12 PMWith a little distance now, i've come to the conclusion that this album is a bit poor. A very middling Melvins record that won't trouble my end of year list in the slightest.
This is the wrong conclusion!
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 19, 2024, 05:17:12 PMWith a little distance now, i've come to the conclusion that this album is a bit poor. A very middling Melvins record that won't trouble my end of year list in the slightest.
:lol: :D
Nonsense. It's great. 8)
I was listening to Miles Davis's Agharta today and reading about how Miles would do these long medleys and refused to credit the individual songs within the medley. I think maybe that's happening in "Pain = Funny". I'm really curious to get my copy of Twins of Evil and see if the alternate version sheds any light. (God damn I hope it isn't just the track reversed.)
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on June 21, 2024, 06:45:18 PMI was listening to Miles Davis's Agharta today and reading about how Miles would do these long medleys and refused to credit the individual songs within the medley. I think maybe that's happening in "Pain = Funny". I'm really curious to get my copy of Twins of Evil and see if the alternate version sheds any light. (God damn I hope it isn't just the track reversed.)
I love Agharta!!
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on June 21, 2024, 06:45:18 PMI was listening to Miles Davis's Agharta today and reading about how Miles would do these long medleys and refused to credit the individual songs within the medley. I think maybe that's happening in "Pain = Funny".
I don't know much about Miles but hearing Buzz singing the praises of him recently seems significant. He even mentioned Miles' long songs that go through all sorts of sections. So i think that is probably the inspiration/impetus he has for crafting these longer melvins songs of late.
i probably enjoy this more than BMR
TODAY: NOON CENTRAL! HAZE XXL SEZ:
There were no plans to do this, then there were. Kinda how it goes around here a bunch of the time. It's a well run, well oiled chaos machine. Throw in the dayglo miasma between the unionized Boxy Mouse printing and AmRep corporate linocuts, and the result are unarguably world class. The project has its own vinyl color variant made for this run to boot. 150 tour edition, 150 online edition and 20 glow in dark chaos machine edition. Buzz will be picking em up when King Dunn hit the Twin Cities, along with tour copies of their "Eat The Spray" 12".
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