Pigs of the Roman Empire

[Metalhead Cow]

You guys really have to lay off Tony. I disagree with his opinions, but he's  always stated them in a mature, intellegent matter. He's not being a jerk or anything.

[Metalhead Cow]

I don't care that some people like it... but when the majority of the people are just pertending it's amazing and fooling themselves, simply because it's the Melvins, I get quite mad. That is a fact that many people are doing this.

Now like I said, the CD is probably better on weed... but without it, it's just a good CD. I've only listened twice, first time was quite dissapointing. Second time I was drawing, got to song 6 without thinking about it... was not amazing me at all, then I was done drawing and got extremely bored listening but I had to finish the album... And I am one who enjoys finishing houdini and stoner witch with their last two tracks.
I'll listen one more time with headphones, see if that makes a difference.


HA Leslie Neilson just played part of the starspangled banner on the violin.

as for tony, I think he's just soo mad he's talking complete nonsense on the most part.

But you're just assuming that. Mabye, JUST mabye some people ACCTUALLY DO find it amazing, and aren't  kidding themselves, or pretending it's amazing just because it's the Melvins. Personally, I don't find the album amazing, but I do think it's REALLY good. The majority of the posters here are smart people. Mabye some people are pretending that they like it, but I doubt it.

[LouiLoomis]

as for "insulting peoples' intelligence"? um, have you read some of the posts on this board? it's not like this is the fucking mensa message board, for crying out loud.

Well, I think it's very cool of you not to try and deny it. But now you're insulting people who are trying to defend you, so I'm not sure if you're just going out of your way to annoy people.

This by the way (which will please Klump) is the last time I'll reply to Tony in this thread. Thank You and Goodnight.

[Joe Deutrom]

A 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to hear some good music someday.

Yes Gonzo, I give it a 4. I like this album and here are the reasons: 1. I enjoy electronic music; in fact, I review electronic albums for a webzine called Vital Weekly and Lustmord happens to be an electronic musician that I am a fan of. 2. I like the Melvins. They are one of the most underrated bands that I can think of and I am probably one the few here that likes Collossus Of Destiny and can appreciate the good experimental noise found on there. Is this album one of their best in my opinion? No it's not. I gave it a 4 which is less than the usual 5 i give the majority of their albums. And yes my friend I do indeed listen to "good" music and am quite confident in my own critiques/opinions as far as music goes whether it's straight up Melvins sludge (which seems to be what most of you all want from them and I can't blame you there) or some trippy experimental jazz, rock, electronic, bluegrass, surf etc etc. If you don't like the album, trade it off for something or put it up on Ebay. I'll say it again: The Melvins cannot and should not be expected to be all things to all people.  

[LouiLoomis]

A 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to hear some good music someday.

Yes Gonzo, I give it a 4. I like this album and here are the reasons: 1. I enjoy electronic music; in fact, I review electronic albums for a webzine called Vital Weekly and Lustmord happens to be an electronic musician that I am a fan of. 2. I like the Melvins. They are one of the most underrated bands that I can think of and I am probably one the few here that likes Collossus Of Destiny and can appreciate the good experimental noise found on there. Is this album one of their best in my opinion? No it's not. I gave it a 4 which is less than the usual 5 i give the majority of their albums. And yes my friend I do indeed listen to "good" music and am quite confident in my own critiques/opinions as far as music goes whether it's straight up Melvins sludge (which seems to be what most of you all want from them and I can't blame you there) or some trippy experimental jazz, rock, electronic, bluegrass, surf etc etc. If you don't like the album, trade it off for something or put it up on Ebay. I'll say it again: The Melvins cannot and should not be expected to be all things to all people.  

Wow, well said. I think you have the advantage as you are a fan of Lustmord. Was it what you expected?

[Metalhead Cow]

A 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to hear some good music someday.

Yes Gonzo, I give it a 4. I like this album and here are the reasons: 1. I enjoy electronic music; in fact, I review electronic albums for a webzine called Vital Weekly and Lustmord happens to be an electronic musician that I am a fan of. 2. I like the Melvins. They are one of the most underrated bands that I can think of and I am probably one the few here that likes Collossus Of Destiny and can appreciate the good experimental noise found on there. Is this album one of their best in my opinion? No it's not. I gave it a 4 which is less than the usual 5 i give the majority of their albums. And yes my friend I do indeed listen to "good" music and am quite confident in my own critiques/opinions as far as music goes whether it's straight up Melvins sludge (which seems to be what most of you all want from them and I can't blame you there) or some trippy experimental jazz, rock, electronic, bluegrass, surf etc etc. If you don't like the album, trade it off for something or put it up on Ebay. I'll say it again: The Melvins cannot and should not be expected to be all things to all people.  

*standing ovation*

[Metalhead Cow]

Mr. Stupid-Could you reccomend me any electronic music to check out?

[Joe Deutrom]

A 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to hear some good music someday.

Yes Gonzo, I give it a 4. I like this album and here are the reasons: 1. I enjoy electronic music; in fact, I review electronic albums for a webzine called Vital Weekly and Lustmord happens to be an electronic musician that I am a fan of. 2. I like the Melvins. They are one of the most underrated bands that I can think of and I am probably one the few here that likes Collossus Of Destiny and can appreciate the good experimental noise found on there. Is this album one of their best in my opinion? No it's not. I gave it a 4 which is less than the usual 5 i give the majority of their albums. And yes my friend I do indeed listen to "good" music and am quite confident in my own critiques/opinions as far as music goes whether it's straight up Melvins sludge (which seems to be what most of you all want from them and I can't blame you there) or some trippy experimental jazz, rock, electronic, bluegrass, surf etc etc. If you don't like the album, trade it off for something or put it up on Ebay. I'll say it again: The Melvins cannot and should not be expected to be all things to all people.  

Wow, well said. I think you have the advantage as you are a fan of Lustmord. Was it what you expected?

Yes, when I heard it finally. Before I did hear it, I didn't know what role exactly Lustmord would play in the overall scheme of things, I mean really you never know what to expect from a Melvins album can you? I basically just stayed up to date with all the rumors about the album on this messageboard.

[LouiLoomis]

Mr. Stupid-Could you reccomend me any electronic music to check out?

[Dr. Gonzo]

A 5 to most albums.... That shows you rate too high.

And I got nothing against tony, he's the man.

[Joe Deutrom]

Mr. Stupid-Could you reccomend me any electronic music to check out?

I wholeheartedly recommend early Skinny Puppy, Download, Doubting Thomas, Cevin Key. There are countless electronic musicians out there that are top shelf but these are my faves and you cannot go wrong with them. All of these groups have pretty much the same guys in them, a good website about these groups can be found at:
http://www.litany.net

[Joe Deutrom]

A 5 to most albums.... That shows you rate too high.

And I got nothing against tony, he's the man.

Dude, I rate a majority of their albums a 5. Here are the ones I don't: The Crybaby I rate a 1, Pigs Of The Roman Empire a 4, Prick and Colossus Of Destiny both a 3. Everything else by the Melvins I have listened to I rate a 5.

I know a thing or two about a thing or two and I dub these ratings fair my man.  

[Metalhead Cow]

Mr. Stupid-Could you reccomend me any electronic music to check out?

I wholeheartedly recommend early Skinny Puppy, Download, Doubting Thomas, Cevin Key. There are countless electronic musicians out there that are top shelf but these are my faves and you cannot go wrong with them. All of these groups have pretty much the same guys in them, a good website about these groups can be found at:
http://www.litany.net

Thanks

[brian]

Hey Brian, what's your opinion of Pigs?

I think it's a great album, but I knew what to expect.  Sorry to hear that some are disappointed.  I've been a lustmord fan for a while, so I'm biased.  I'm one of those guys that listens to merzbow, nurse with wound, masonna, etc.  In my opinion lustmord has a great sense of establishing mood in music.  Some people may not agree, and some may not like this album, and say colossus for example.  Those people may just need to face the fact that the melvins just won't be able to be their favorite band and they're going to need to look into the albums melvins put out before the purchase is made.  Rest assured if you don't like the output of one band, there's always another.  If someone happens to be looking for straight-ahead rock i've got news for that someone, there's a plethora of it out there, many many groups are rehashing the same old shit or remaining stagnant or a combination of the two.  some may argue: "i'd rather the melvins re-hash stoner witch than to have put out pigs of the roman empire", only thing any of us can say to that is, bummer for you.

[LouiLoomis]

some may argue: "i'd rather the melvins re-hash stoner witch than to have put out pigs of the roman empire", only thing any of us can say to that is, bummer for you.

Word.